On Aug 25, 2025, at 1:45 AM, Captain Greg <gregca...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nonsuch sailors,
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Being a metallurgist, I think the term crystallisation is wrongly applied in terms of the mast failure.
Stainless steel and aluminum galvanic corrosion is often seen in damp areas, especially in salt water environments. During the corrosion process, the aluminum surface oxidises, which is evident as a white powder. Over time the surface becomes rough and pitted. Deep pitting will weaken the mast in that area, and as the mast flexes in normal use, a crack can be initiated. Over time, this tiny crack, known as a fatigue crack, will grow, until the mast fails. The metal in the area did not fail by crystallisation; it become weaker, and susceptible to failure, due to the pitting.
On Aug 26, 2025, at 1:19 PM, newelljc9 <newe...@gmail.com> wrote:
Mascouche still has her original 1981 mast which was modified when it became clear that one cannot drill into the lower section of the mast. I believe it was found that the lower 10' should be free of drill holes. All the early Nonsuches were upgraded to having a tie down to replace the pin at deck level. Jorgen Moller and I did replace the bolts at the mast joint with Mike Quills upgrade in 2011. The original fittings were showing wear.
While on a cruise to Whitby, Ont. I was battling the aftermath of a hurricane that produced short steep seas that had the run of Lake Ontario from Rochester. Mascouche was behaving well under the circumstances under a single reef beating to windward. One was very conscious of the "whipping" of the top of the mast. It became too much for the weather vane which flew off. The constant flexing of the mast must eventually fatigue the metal at the deck area. In addition, it makes light air sailing in a swell very annoying. The wishboom tends to rock about spilling what wind there is. I mitigated these issues with the standing gaff rig. The gaff sheet steadies the mast and prevents it from whipping. I see no reason why yachts with standard wishbooms do not add add a backstay. It should add years to the life of the mast. I will leave it to our metallurgists to determine how much longer life one can anticipate. Anyway an inexpensive dyneema backstay should improve the enjoyment of sailing in light airs. Those with boom clearance issues or extended booms might require a bumpkin to provide sufficient clearance for the boom.An upgrade that should extend mast life would be to replace the heavy aluminium boom with a carbon fiber one.John NewellMascouche 26C1Toronto
<image0.jpeg>Photo taken by Doug Farrand on Quetico 30U #368. The "backstay" is actually the gaff sheet which allows the gaff to be trimmed to the breeze at the top of the mast. On Lake Ontario this can be substantially different to what is happening on the water. JNOn Monday, August 25, 2025 at 1:45:42 AM UTC-4 Captain Greg wrote:Hi Nonsuch sailors,I would like to start a thread to collect info on Nonsuch mast failures - I think we all need to be aware. We had one in our weekly Wed night race in Cape Breton this week.I am trying to help the owner who is not an INA member, to figure out how to deal with this. We have found a salvage aluminum mast, so there is a potential easy solution...... i won't go any farther on this as it is underway with insurance, adjusters and all....I am interested to know more about other known aluminum mast failures. In my research since my friend's incident last Wednesday, I found a thread (in our Google discussion group) about a UK owned Nonsuch 30 that had a sudden breakage at deck level, while sailing. Bang, and it was down. No damage or human injury otherwise in either event. (c.2009 I think). In the 2009 incident, insurance company declined to cover, due to fine print: 'gradual corrosion causing crystallization of the aluminum, due to to contact with Stainless steel clamp that slid off,'.... resulting in reduced tension strength..... Insurance does not usually cover wear and tear and gradual degradation...etc....The insurance company cited corrosion of the aluminum due to contact with stainless steel. based on their engineer's report that cited crystalization indicates reduced tensile strength.---------------My observations:- the 2009 incident cited specifically, as it had the severed top part above deck, and the stub below for the adjustors to see: there was corrosion due to ss contact with aluminum, due to slipping of one of the bands from its insulation, just above deck level. This corrosion causes crystalliization of the aluminum over time, which has a negative effect on the tensile strength of the mast.- I saw another result at Green Turtle Key, Nonsuch 30U, was stored on the hard with mast up during a hurricane, mast sheared at the deck. Was repaired with a spline. This boat was discussed on our Google discussion group by owner, and was on sale on our INA site. Recently sold. I had the chance to see it while cruising there and considered buying it, but did not.... My wife thinks I have too many boats now....in the attached photo, you can see the exposed edge of the stub of my friend's mast, and it looks crystalline. From what I have read recently, this indicate lack of tensile strength. I am not a metallurgics expert by any means.... just an observer.--- if any of you have any knowledge of mast failures like this, please post to this thread. There may be symptoms to recognize on the surface if there is corrosion that might cause such a failure, and preventative measure that can be taken to renew the 'isolation' between stainless and aluminum on your masts.Greg SilverMisty Cat 26C #121Cape Breton
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You should contact Mike Quill about it. He advised me on repairs when I found pitting beneath my tack collar. There are specifications for how deep the pits can be and still be safe, but you should ask him because the spec might be different for the area right next to the deck, it being right at the fulcrum. Mine was well within spec and I followed his instructions on repair. You are lucky your mast is on sawhorses! The prep involves sand blasting which is very difficult to do in a nice marina.
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