Cheap vs quslity

[W'Ren]

I am interested to hear what the group has to say about cycling through budget machines annually/semiannually vs buying a better quality machine that might last several years. 

It is my experience as an ebike technician that buying 2 cheap ebikes is often better value than buying 1 expensive, better quality, machine.If one goes down you can use the other to trouble shoot and for parts. 

A troubling amount of ebikes and escooters are just straight up disposable and it would seem to be the same with 3D Printers. 

What is your experience? 

[Kurt The 3D Printer GUY!!]

Hey there Wren!

OMG - I find it HORRIFIC that our WHOLE Society has become based upon Disposable products. It's DISGUSTING! Our Landfills are getting FILLED with Disposable CRAP! 

Sadly - some of the Crap (if not a LOT of it) - has poisonous contents that should NOT be Thrown uselessly into a Landfill - like Computers - and WORSE - Cell phones!

But, will admit - as I read what you wrote - it Really reminded me of Episode #507 of the Podcast - where Andy was talking about the EOS of StrataSys machines - and specifically about ME and my Mojo 3D Printer. That is a Perfect example of buying something REALLY Expensive - when Hobby level printers were available. But, since my MakerBot CupCake was one the very FIRST commercially available 3DP's - and it was the start of things - and it was WAY More problematic than the current Ender 3 Pro machines - YEAH - I got Frustrated - and decided to plunk down $10K for a 3D Printer - and back then - people thought I was INSANE for doing so!!!

So - there you have it - a tad bit of 3DP History - and a slight answer to your question...

-K

[W'Ren]

I agree.... and the reality is what it is. 

So, did your 10k machine last and perform as one would expect of such an investment ?

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[Kurt The 3D Printer GUY!!]

Do you TRULY want an answer to your question about my $10K???

If so - I have to Chuckle - since a LARGE part of the answer is within Ep#507 of the podcast! 

Short Answer - Yes - the Damn machine produce SUPERIOR RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!

-K

[david merten]

My first printer cost $1200 and was a kit I put together at the local maker space back in 2011. It was a solid printer for its day, and lasted a long time intill my cat killed it.

 I have stayed with budget printers since then. 3 flsun super racers back a few years ago when they were around $300. I have mixed results with them, some really good prints,  and then broken machines. 

I bought a tenlog idex  again at the $300 price point, I didn't realize they were going out of business or I might have bought more. It sat in its box for a long time. I have just started playing with it and I like it.

Then I bought a egeloo C.C.1 for $350. I am extremely impressed with it. When it dropped to $300 I bought one for grankids.

 I debated on getting a snapmaker U1 for $850 but decided 2 more C.C.'s for $600 worked out better for me. For the price I dont think they can be beat. 

          David

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[3D Printing Tips and Tricks]

The analogy with e-bikes is not valid.

The four 3d printers I just disposed of worked perfectly and could easily have continued to work. My first rep2 still prints fine. 

With maintenance, they don’t wear out for a long time.

The difference between the older or cheaper machines Vs the newer and possibly more expensive is… 1. Easier to use due to a lot of some pretty good software and 2. Way more optimal hardware designs such as toolchanging, super low mass carriages, optimized gantries, sensors, etc. The result is being able to quickly print way more use cases with way better results. So if you buy a $300 machine… it’ll last just as long as the $1200 machine, but it’ll require more work on the users part to get optimal results…. And it may not be as fast.

In the end, if the cheaper machine meets the need it makes more sense, but if it cost the user more in terms of their time it may not.

[Bryan Eckert]

I agree, except a cheap-o e-bike will more likely than not burn down your house, or catch fire while riding it. 

Printers have had that problem solved for awhile now. 

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