Printing Hueforge

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I’ve been trying to print some Hueforge samples. These were printed using the Prusa XL…

It turns out printing these is not all that easy. Layer height has to be .08mm. Not all 3d printers can do that reliably. On my first try the E3d toolchanger couldn’t do it.

[3D Printing Tips and Tricks]

So… I’m just wondering,,,

Can your 3d printer reliably print under .1 mm layer height? FDM of course.

If it can what is it and what did you print at that tight a tolerance.

[Anthony Rothert]

I've printed 2 hueforge prints so far.  The first is the sample peony the Hueforge creator posted on Printables.  I printed it on a completely stock FLSun V400 with a .4 nozzle and .08 layer height.  All cheap, no-name Amazon filament.  I got a large bundle of 200-250g spools for christmas with many different colors.

Since we just got the Bambu Lab A1 Mini, I figured I would give it a go as the first multi-color AMS test.  Also completely stock, .4 nozzle and .08 layer height.  Even the same cheap filament but different colors chosen.  This is a character named Tanjiro from an anime series named Demon Slayer.  I saved the image from a google search and used Hueforge myself.  It came out fantastic but there is about a 25-50 mm curl along the lower edge.  I attribute that to a print taking up the entire bed and being thinnest in that area (basically just the base black).  

I also have an FLSun Super Racer.  Before I started having issues with it, (which I think I have figured out), I could get wonderful results at .12 layer heights on a .4 nozzle, so I think I could have gotten good results stock.  My Ender 3 V2 or Voxelab Aquila?  Not a chance. 

    

[vr...@optonline.net]

Wow - the Tanjiro print is pretty Wild! 

How many layers are actually in the print?

The Bambu is definitely a great printer for this type of printing.

-K 

 

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I've printed 2 hueforge prints so far.  The first is the sample peony the Hueforge creator posted on Printables.  I printed it on a completely stock FLSun V400 with a .4 nozzle and .08 layer height.  All cheap, no-name Amazon filament.  I got a large bundle of 200-250g spools for christmas with many different colors.

Since we just got the Bambu Lab A1 Mini, I figured I would give it a go as the first multi-color AMS test.  Also completely stock, .4 nozzle and .08 layer height.  Even the same cheap filament but different colors chosen.  This is a character named Tanjiro from an anime series named Demon Slayer.  I saved the image from a google search and used Hueforge myself.  It came out fantastic but there is about a 25-50 mm curl along the lower edge.  I attribute that to a print taking up the entire bed and being thinnest in that area (basically just the base black).  

I also have an FLSun Super Racer.  Before I started having issues with it, (which I think I have figured out), I could get wonderful results at .12 layer heights on a .4 nozzle, so I think I could have gotten good results stock.  My Ender 3 V2 or Voxelab Aquila?  Not a chance. 

   

 

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[Anthony Rothert]

At .08 layer height and a first layer .16, its 23 layers.  Total thickness is 2.0 mm.  The Hueforge software allows you to change the max depth/thickness and vary different color layers accordingly.  This is 4 colors total; black base, brown, mint green, and white. 

The only reason we bought the A1 Mini is because of the price.  I didn't have an interest in the larger Bambu's because they aren't big enough for what I want.  But an easy(ish)-to-use smaller printer that the kids and wife can throw files at?  Sure.  
The A1 Mini prints great.  Its not perfect though.  As with anything else, you are seeing the highlight reel.  I've had several failed prints already due to bed adhesion (only failure mode so far).  Although the Tanjiro Hueforge was a 1st print.   I haven't started using Aquanet on this build plate yet.

I am genuinely impressed with the engineering effort Bambu Lab has put into their machines.  Their slicer is loaded with profiles for all of their printers, with different print beds, and different nozzles as well as filaments.  The auto calibrations built into the printers work.  Is there ringing and echos in prints at speed?  Yes.  Do I care? No.  Can it be improved?  Very likely.  But honestly overall, IT JUST WORKS.  For that Hueforge print, I set it to the .08 layer height profile, tweaked the normals (infill, walls, temps, etc) set my color changes at layer height just like its done in PrusaSlicer, and hit print.  The print is sent to the printer wirelessly and it goes.  I did the same thing for the peony on the V400 with PrusaSlicer except there isn't a .08 profile from the printer manufacturer.  I don't think FLSun even created the profile for PrusaSlicer.  They use Cura.  Although the peony looks good, if you were to find that model on Printables, you can clearly see mine is of lesser quality.  The A1 Mini crushed it.  And its all due to the engineering done at Bambu Lab.  Its impressive enough for me to consider the larger Bambu machines.   Although I will keep my fingers crossed for a tool changer or at least an IDEX.  That is my next toy when the time comes.

[3dprintghosty team]

Resurrecting this old post. I've just seen a very cool evolution of Hueforge with these modular "Art Frames": 

 

Animated: https://twitter.com/i/status/1726866287765180708

The STL for the Box can be found here.

[vr...@optonline.net]

Thanks for sharing that. The animated image was pretty cool. Sadly - I attempted to see if I could access a URL of Only the Animated GIF - but, I was not successful. I say this, since I know not Everyone in this forum is using Twitter...

-K

 

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Resurrecting this old post. I've just seen a very cool evolution of Hueforge with these modular "Art Frames": 

 

Animated: https://twitter.com/i/status/1726866287765180708

The STL for the Box can be found here.

 

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[Anthony Rothert]

3Dprintghosty team thanks for sharing this!  I had to try it!

Here are my results with the settings for these 2 models (frame and Hueforge print) using my FLSun V400 using the .4 nozzle and .08 layer height.  Its not as clean as the Bambu Lab A1 Mini, but still darn impressive to see in person.
For direct info,
- Hueforge model: cyanidesugar's Thangs page  "Piece of Junk in Space"
- Frame: TheCraftyMaker Thangs page -  HueForge Wall Mountable Frame (cyanidesugar collab)   

As a side note, TheCraftyMaker also did an amazing Hueforge shadow box of "The Great Wave off Kanagawa"
I am really enjoying printing Hueforge's.  They are beautiful and its amazing what can be done with them.  

Tony

[vr...@optonline.net]

It looks pretty cool. I know that MUST be a FUN Print job. How many different filament colors did you use?

Also, I can see that's a Delta you printed on. How many filament swaps did you have to do? Just curious...

-K

 

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3Dprintghosty team thanks for sharing this!  I had to try it!

Here are my results with the settings for these 2 models (frame and Hueforge print) using my FLSun V400 using the .4 nozzle and .08 layer height.  Its not as clean as the Bambu Lab A1 Mini, but still darn impressive to see in person.
For direct info,
- Hueforge model: cyanidesugar's Thangs page  "Piece of Junk in Space"
- Frame: TheCraftyMaker Thangs page -  HueForge Wall Mountable Frame (cyanidesugar collab)   

As a side note, TheCraftyMaker also did an amazing Hueforge shadow box of "The Great Wave off Kanagawa"
I am really enjoying printing Hueforge's.  They are beautiful and its amazing what can be done with them.  

Tony











 

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[Anthony Rothert]

It’s only 4 colors so only 3 swaps.  Black base, then I used a sky blue, white, then gray for the ship. The frame is a separate model.  And that was a single print for the 3 walled part and lid.  

[vr...@optonline.net]

Thanks for the feedback. Will admit - that's a surprisingly small # of filament swaps. And, the print itself - I don't feel it really shows HueForge in a way to really make it shine. In general, as I understand the concept - there is supposed to be a kind of mixing of colors due to layers and light bouncing around - and, in reality - I think for this HueForge thing - one should be using more exotic filaments that are the semitranslucent variety - like PETG's - and that's where this technique will SHINE - in the real sense of the word.

 

I mean - your print, I saw that Animated version of it on Twitter - and it IS COOL! No Doubt!

 

But, the concept behind HueForge is to mix color Hues. And, your print simply shows multi-colors, but, not a true mixing of colors - which is what is possible via HueForge. 

 

IF I was not Totally STRESSED out by my job search, and I found a job, and now I can go back to experimental 3D Printing - I would Definitely love to give this a shot!

-K

 

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It’s only 4 colors so only 3 swaps.  Black base, then I used a sky blue, white, then gray for the ship. The frame is a separate model.  And that was a single print for the 3 walled part and lid.  

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[Anthony Rothert]

You’re right about the lack of color “blending” and transparency with this print, Kurt.  The colors don’t blend much in this model.  But the purpose of this is the 3D aspect of the Millennium Falcon.  There are other 3D style hueforge models online that do both; let the color blending shine and have part of the model really pop out of the print.

Just playing with the software, you can select between different filament types as well.  And with that, you are also correct.  Just within the software, there is a clear difference in what is achievable using PETG as opposed to PLA because of the higher light transmittance of many PETGs.  I don’t have a wide selection of PETG colors to try it out, but I definitely want to.