Shapr3D

[Lee Foulkes]

I know peeps here will have their favourite modelling software and I know that Fusion 360 is an incredible tool was a gluttony of features for free personal use.

I have been using pro version of Shapr3d on iPad for around 2-3 years. Recently participated in their parametric modelling challenges and blagged 7th place. Got to choose a free hoodie (if it ever gets delivered from wherever it ships).

They asked me to participate in their community forum as a sort of expert users helping others (which I've already done a bit of out of pure enjoyment for the software).

I've said yes. One its a chance to learn but there is also a route to free licences if one gets to a certain milestone.

Just sharing as it's nice to get a bit of recognition.

Im not sure which is worse - my video skills or my modelling!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoZ9_7Nx0ls

[Bryan Eckert]

ShapR is awesome! especially using an iPad and the pencil.  Trying to use it on a normal windows PC sucks.

I use Plasticity myself. Fusion used to be decent but it's so damned slow anymore.

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[Kurt The 3D Printer GUY!!]

YO There Lee - do NOT Be SO Hard on yourself!!!

I LIKE Your Accent - it sounds Great in your Video - and I need to watch it and TRY it out! I just started watching it - and I like it!!!

Problem is - RIGHT Now - I am Juggling like 5 different 3DP Projects this weekend. Just printed 2 test fit pieces for Risers for my outdoor chair. As to why - I will have to post pics SOON about that project and explain why. 

I was also doing an experimental project this weekend - that I have been WANTING to get to for a While now - essentially 3D Printed "Paper" Airplanes. I did Several prints - but, so far - NOT so Great. But, I have ideas to make it work right - and I WILL Keep folks here posted. 

Also - I'm going back to my Sno-Bloks prototype - and now about to print the Handle unit - but, on my U1 - in 2 colors (PETG - some older spools almost empty) and PLA supports!

And - via my Doppelgänger - we are SERIOUSLY Going Down the Rabbit Hole via Python code to Generate my Tree Lamp design - and he did code review - and then reviewed Serious code changes, Serious Algorithm changes and even some DEEP Math - which I Still need to work on Implementing his suggestions.

So - yeah - your Video - I MUST come back to it...

-K

[david merten]

I looked at the pricing and was disappointed that you don't retain all rights to your data intill you step up to the second pay level, so $450 a year minimum to keep your data.

Kurt, I played with those "paper" planes several months ago. Never got the results I was looking for.  Stiffness is so important. Especially with only 1 or 2 layers. Need to try it with cf infused. But they weren't where I wanted to go so moved on without to much experimenting. 

           David

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[Lee Foulkes]

Thanks guys for kind words and feedback!

[Ed Street]

I have been using Shapr3D since 2020.

I can tell you this: the listing of  "Company ownership of all data" is read incorrectly.  What this means is 100% about IP property from the group. You are in a TEAM, and the TEAM creator holds all IP rights to the projects created by all team members.  

Commercial rights: use of the product for commercial gain is fair use, with the lowest, even free plan.  However, even at half the cost of F360, it's a bargain and much better in many areas, until you run into things that mandate F360 use.

[david merten]

Thanks for the clarification. 

Is it more standard cad based, or more artistic based ie blender, plasticity?

        David

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[Kurt]

David - considering the talk above - I believe it is a True CAD program. 

So - just a tad more info about the Categorization of 3D Modeling programs...

Traditionally - a CAD program is a Solid Modeler (and thus the name of one of them - SolidWorks). Versus - the other types of 3D modelers, which you referred to as "artistic" - and generally they are Surface modelers. They can be related to the idea of a ball - one is Solid - like a ShotPut or Cannon Ball - those would be like balls you create with a Solid Modeler. But, a ball like a Basketball or a Whiffle Ball - they are all Hollow on the inside - and one could consider them like a ball made with a Surface modeler. In effect - the Surface modeler - it's essentially like your model (or Ball) is completely hollow - and the model is really represented by a paper thin surface - thus it being a Surface Modeler. 

Sadly - I have to admit - really all my 3D modeling experience has been in the Surface Modeling world - mostly using 3D Studio Max (starting with 3D Studio for DOS 1.0 in 1990) - and also using Sculptris. I've only just dabbled a couple times in Fusion360 - and a bit MORE Dabbling in OpenSCAD - whilst that is NOT a traditional CAD program - since that is generating objects essentially via a Scripting (basically a Programming) language.

So - there you have it - a tad bit of info on the world of 3D Modeling Software...

-K

[3D Printing Tips and Tricks]

Sorry Kurt, but I don’t agree… In my experience I’ve seen quite a few CAD programs which are actually not 3d solid modelers… including AutoCAD. I recall as a young Engineer at Hughes when I was asked to try out one of the very first solid modeling programs on the DEC mini our dept had. I’m not sure, but I think it was called GeoCAD. I worked with it for years designing consoles and Command and Control facility layouts with large screen displays.

[Kurt The 3D Printer GUY!!]

It's OK Andy - you do NOT always have to agree. 

However, in this case - you're not only "splitting hairs" - you are also comparing Apples to Oranges!

Think about it...

AutoCAD was started many, MANY Years ago. When I was in college in like 1984 in Philly - at the Community College - some dudes from another college were taking classes at my college - and they had this program. They installed it on a PC in the lab in which I worked - and it was the original AutoCAD. 

That original program was Purely 2D. Yes - Years later - 3D was incorporated - but, the guts of it was a 2D CAD program. And, so - you can directly compare it to 3D CAD - since, that is what we are really talking about here! 

You can bring up Obscure software that does NOT Seem to hold to the case of Solid Modeling for CAD - but, again - you are speaking Edge Cases - or actually speaking of 2D CAD. Yes - there is a Difference - and, in THIS Discussion - we are talking 3D CAD! - As in - True Solid 3D CAD Modelers - NOT 2D Hyrbid/3D CAD like AutoCAD!

Just sayin'...

-K

[Kurt]

Ouch - a Typo...

Shoulda been - " And, so - you can Not directly compare it to 3D CAD..."

-K

[Bryan Eckert]

I find all this talk of solid modeling and surface modeling funny considering 3D printing defaulted to a simple polygon mesh for slicing.

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[Kurt The 3D Printer GUY!!]

Your comment is Funny - but, Yes - Spot on. The idea that 3D Printing deals PURELY with Polygonal Only type data files - at least when it comes to files it can read and Slice!

Now - there are lots of folks that claim that you need a TRUE CAD 3D app to produce properly Accurate parts. Like - things that need to fit - and have accurate sizing - to like connect to other things - stuff like that. But, I have done a TON of Accurate type things - using 3DS Max - which is NOT A CAD package. And - thus - this topic of accuracy is one of the reasons folks push True CAD. And, the whole industry of Design - like Mechanical Design - and even things like FEA - that's why True 3D CAD is important. Remember - the original basis of 3D PRinting is about Prototyping. So - printing an initial design - but, then the final parts get produced (generally) - via standard manufacturing methods like Injection Molding - or even Rotational molding!

In the end - yes - 3D Printing itself is about Polygonal Data!!!!

But - as a VERY FUN Aside - you KNOW there is a Special GCode command that can do Circles or Arcs???

Yes - it's TRUE! And - that Contradicts that standard format of files for 3D Printing that require Polygons - such that everything - like EVERYTHING is basically Lines or Line Segments that are printed!!!

In fact - during my time at Essentium - there were several of us - me as one of them - that were looking into whether this Arc type GCode like could RUN on the HSE printers!

I really should find out if the Elegoo Centauri or the SnapMaker1 could run these Arc commands!  If so - I think there is the potential to speed up print jobs if that GCode command was correctly implemented!

Anyway...

-K