Alternate MacVim Icon

1,224 views
Skip to first unread message

Drew Yeaton

unread,
Nov 30, 2011, 8:22:28 PM11/30/11
to vim_mac
After using MacVim for quite some time, I thought I would give back to
the MacVim community in the form of design work. I'm proposing an
alternate icon that I feel makes MacVim appear more at home on the
Mac. My design goals were few—

+ Give MacVim some character while keeping the familiar MacVim green
+ Align with the icon design suggestions in Apple's HIG
+ Give MacVim a modern appearance

View it on Dribbble here:
http://dribbble.com/shots/337065-MacVim-Icon-Updated

What do you think?

Chris Insinger

unread,
Nov 30, 2011, 9:41:07 PM11/30/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com, vim_mac
It's so much better than the standard icon. Thanks!

> --
> You received this message from the "vim_mac" maillist.
> Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to.
> For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php

Drew Yeaton

unread,
Nov 30, 2011, 10:14:21 PM11/30/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
Thanks! For those interested, I've created a proper ICNS file of it as well:

http://dribbble.com/shots/337065-MacVim-Icon-Updated-/attachments/15582

Cheers!

Billy Huang

unread,
Nov 30, 2011, 10:20:29 PM11/30/11
to Drew Yeaton, vim_mac
Awesome, you gonna release the psd?? I prefer a blue one or lime green.
Currently using one from deviantart which is awesome too.

Sent from my Windows Phone From: Drew Yeaton
Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 13:11
To: vim_mac
Subject: Alternate MacVim Icon

Phil Dobbin

unread,
Nov 30, 2011, 11:39:13 PM11/30/11
to vim_mac

Excellent behaviour, it looks great. Thank you :-)...

Cheers,

Phil...

--
Nothing to see here... move along, move along

George V. Reilly

unread,
Dec 1, 2011, 2:26:08 AM12/1/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com

I like it, but it probably ought to say "vim", not "vi".

I like it

Dominik Gehl

unread,
Dec 1, 2011, 8:11:05 AM12/1/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
Like it ! Just not 100% sure about the screwdriver … how about a pocket knife instead ? That would maybe express better the idea of vim being a multi-purpose tool

Dominik

Eric Weir

unread,
Dec 1, 2011, 9:35:18 AM12/1/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com

I was going to say, "It's a vi icon, not a vim icon." But then the current MacVim icon doesn't say "vim" either.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

"The invincible shield of caring
Is a weapon sent from the sky
against being dead."

- Tao Te Ching 67

Eric Weir

unread,
Dec 1, 2011, 9:42:42 AM12/1/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com

On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Dominik Gehl wrote:

> Like it ! Just not 100% sure about the screwdriver … how about a pocket knife instead ? That would maybe express better the idea of vim being a multi-purpose tool

Or a stylized image of an actual multi-purpose tool, e.g., an adaptation of something like this.
http://www.leatherman.com/product/Juice_C2

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net


Phil Dobbin

unread,
Dec 1, 2011, 10:00:01 AM12/1/11
to vim_mac
On 1/12/11 14:42, "Eric Weir" <eew...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Or a stylized image of an actual multi-purpose tool, e.g., an adaptation of
> something like this.
> http://www.leatherman.com/product/Juice_C2

The name of the app escapes me presently but a similar icon of a Leatherman
is already in existence.

Caleb Eggensperger

unread,
Dec 1, 2011, 7:11:53 PM12/1/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
This came up recently in another thread.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/vim_mac/ldDviR_6Q5s/x6X9NxVSR18J

I like this icon, and would love to see the MacVim icon change, but it doesn't look likely.

Drew Yeaton

unread,
Dec 1, 2011, 8:00:19 PM12/1/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
Thanks for pointing out this conversation. 

I understand the reticence with regards to changing something that's hasn't changed in a long time (eg. the vim icon). However, I think pushing forward on this is a worthy cause—if nothing more that to attempt to move MacVim forward as a product. However, It is slightly discouraging to see the conversation about this shut down so abruptly with little reason. 

Having said that, I have reached out to Björn (if that is the same Björn) directly earlier today.

Drew

björn

unread,
Dec 2, 2011, 12:39:22 PM12/2/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
On 2 December 2011 02:00, Drew Yeaton wrote:
> Thanks for pointing out this conversation.
>
> I understand the reticence with regards to changing something that's hasn't
> changed in a long time (eg. the vim icon). However, I think pushing forward
> on this is a worthy cause—if nothing more that to attempt to move MacVim
> forward as a product. However, It is slightly discouraging to see the
> conversation about this shut down so abruptly with little reason.

I think it is great that you decided to design your own icon, and a
lot of people seem to appreciate it. Wonderful! (I mean it, I'm not
being facetious)

...but, unfortunately I still stand by my earlier posts: I do not want
to change the icon to something that does not closely resemble the
official Vim icon that is displayed on www.vim.org ("the green diamond
with a V").

I have made a serious effort to make MacVim not deviate from Vim on
other platforms. This really is supposed to be Vim on the Mac and not
a fork of Vim, or a Vim clone. To me the icon is a good indication
that MacVim is Vim. A lot of Vim users feel _very_ strongly about
keeping things uniform across platforms and as soon as I change one
little thing they tend to speak up. This is perhaps my strongest
reason for not wanting to change the icon.

That being said: I'm not a fan of the "diamond and V" design myself
and I have been vocal about this in the past. However, I've put my
own wishes to the side on this issue so saying "no" to new icons is
not something I am particularly happy about. My rather abrupt
statement in the thread that was linked to by Caleb was an attempt for
people to stop asking me about this, but I guess that was not the best
way to deal with it. (There is at least one older thread were this
has been discussed as well.)

Anyway, the right person to approach regarding a redesign for the Vim
icon is Bram Moolenaar (the author of Vim). I for one would be happy
if you could convince him that it is about time for the Vim icon to
receive a facelift.

In the meantime, the best idea would be to publish step-by-step
instructions on how to get your redesigned icon and replace the
default icon. You are welcome to add a page to the MacVim wiki [1].

Björn

[1] https://github.com/b4winckler/macvim/wiki

Blake Winton

unread,
Dec 2, 2011, 1:36:53 PM12/2/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
On 11-12-02 12:39 , björn wrote:
> On 2 December 2011 02:00, Drew Yeaton wrote:
>> I understand the reticence with regards to changing something that's hasn't
>> changed in a long time (eg. the vim icon).
> I have made a serious effort to make MacVim not deviate from Vim on
> other platforms. This really is supposed to be Vim on the Mac and not
> a fork of Vim, or a Vim clone. To me the icon is a good indication
> that MacVim is Vim. A lot of Vim users feel _very_ strongly about
> keeping things uniform across platforms and as soon as I change one
> little thing they tend to speak up. This is perhaps my strongest
> reason for not wanting to change the icon.

Would you consider allowing people a choice of icons in the Preferences?

As far as I can tell, the preferences are quite MacVim-specific already,
so adding options there shouldn't be nearly as controversial…

Later,
Blake.

Phil Dobbin

unread,
Dec 2, 2011, 2:33:23 PM12/2/11
to vim_mac
On 2/12/11 18:36, "Blake Winton" <bwi...@latte.ca> wrote:

> Would you consider allowing people a choice of icons in the Preferences?
>
> As far as I can tell, the preferences are quite MacVim-specific already,

> so adding options there shouldn't be nearly as controversialŠ

Well, it's only a case of opening the package contents, storing the original
icon elsewhere & replacing it with the new one (all whilst MacVim's not
running ;-)... this can be done with any app's icon. It would be undesirable
to package MacVim this way & then distribute it of course.

Cheers,

Phil.

Blake Winton

unread,
Dec 2, 2011, 3:57:27 PM12/2/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
On 11-12-02 14:33 , Phil Dobbin wrote:
> On 2/12/11 18:36, "Blake Winton"<bwi...@latte.ca> wrote:
>> Would you consider allowing people a choice of icons in the Preferences?
>>
>> As far as I can tell, the preferences are quite MacVim-specific already,
>> so adding options there shouldn't be nearly as controversialŠ
>
> Well, it's only a case of opening the package contents, storing the original
> icon elsewhere& replacing it with the new one (all whilst MacVim's not

> running ;-)... this can be done with any app's icon. It would be undesirable
> to package MacVim this way& then distribute it of course.

It's easier than that, for end users, at least…

http://pimpmymac.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/how-to-change-icons/

But neither of those are something I'ld expect normal people (or non-mac
people) to do, whereas a preference would work and be easy enough that
almost anyone could find it.

Later,
Blake.

Phil Dobbin

unread,
Dec 2, 2011, 4:47:57 PM12/2/11
to vim_mac
On 2/12/11 20:57, "Blake Winton" <bwi...@latte.ca> wrote:

> It's easier than that, for end users, at least...


>
> http://pimpmymac.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/how-to-change-icons/
>
> But neither of those are something I'ld expect normal people (or non-mac
> people) to do, whereas a preference would work and be easy enough that
> almost anyone could find it.

I'd forgotten about that particular route. Used to use it in Classic Mac
OS...

Drew Yeaton

unread,
Dec 2, 2011, 9:12:26 PM12/2/11
to vim...@googlegroups.com
Thanks for the awesome response. Your reasoning is sound, thanks for taking the time to explain the deal. I'll surely reach out to Bram, but your suggestion of adding a how-to on the MacVim wiki is a good idea.

Drew

WenMin Tu

unread,
Feb 22, 2013, 9:32:32 AM2/22/13
to vim...@googlegroups.com, xee...@gmail.com
在 2011年12月1日星期四UTC+8上午9时22分28秒,Drew Yeaton写道:
this is great, they should use it in the next snapshot build
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages