VA 8.5 - Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 2

[Marten Feldtmann]

Just for information purposes:

 * Installation went fine
 * Startup was ok
 * Keyboard not working.

[Seth Berman]

Hi Marten,

I'm moving to 11.10 myself pretty soon.  I posted some instructions for the keyboard fix for 11.04 in this post: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/va-smalltalk/3-jt-1ms2RU/discussion.  That's what I will be trying pretty soon, let me know if you try that and it doesn't work.  Thanks

- Seth

[Thomas Koschate]

While I appreciate the desire to run the latest and greatest versions of an operating system, maybe this isn't a practical goal.  What I'd like to see from Instantiations is a guaranteed commitment to support the current LTS release of Ubuntu (along with Red Hat and SuSE), with newer releases supported on a best-effort basis.  There are many things I'd rather see Instantiations expending resources on than chasing the latest releases of Fedora and Ubuntu.  Personally, if I'm going to deploy a server into production, I'll be using the most stable version of the operating system that I can get.

Tom

[Marten Feldtmann]

Thomas,

yes this is quite ok for server system (bad:the current Ubuntu LTS version is 10.04 and VASmalltalk never run on that system).

But for desktop systems developers must have early access to newer system - just to know, if there is a critical situation  coming in the future. Desktop systems are (at the moment): Windows, MacOS and even Linux. VASmalltalk is only an option for Windows.

[Marten Feldtmann]

That worked ...

[Marten Feldtmann]

@Seth: It worked for ASCII codes, but nor for e.g. German Umlauts.

[Thomas Koschate]

But Marten, you're practically arguing my point for me!  So far, Instantiations is having enough trouble getting VA Smalltalk to work correctly on current non-Windows systems, and now you're hoping for support on unreleased versions. 

Actually, I agree that it's good to know as early as possible if there's going to be trouble on upcoming versions, but there's already known problems - how do we know if the problems on the next version are new, or just variations on what we're already seeing?

[Marten Feldtmann]

Am Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2011 18:27:42 UTC+2 schrieb Thomas Koschate:

and now you're hoping for support on unreleased versions. 

 No, my posting was just for information purposes - nothing else. I am hoping nothing and expecting nothing -  I just wanted to say so that nobody can say afterwards: ohh, we had no time to check it.

 Our internet  systems (where my demos are located) are running using Ubuntu 10.10 (simply I wished a NON 10.04, which our admin actually preferred at those days).

 For server I would use 10.04 LTS and most hosters here in Germany offer only (in the Ubuntu familiy) 10.04 LTS.

 To summarize: just for information purposes