Buhari Is Championing Nepotism – Junaid Mohammed

[Ugochukwu Ejinkeonye]

Buhari Is Championing Nepotism – Junaid Mohammed

 …His Relatives Dictate Aso Rock policy

*President Buhari

Interview by Ishaya Ibrahim (Acting News Editor)

Muhammadu Buhari’s relatives are the ones dictating policy in Aso Rock for 170 million Nigerians, adding nepotism to the festering allegation of narrow mindedness levelled against the president, who critics say surrounds himself with Northerners in running national affairs.

Junaid Mohammed, radical politician and Second Republic lawmaker, named at least seven relatives of the president who are the power behind the throne in the Villa – apart from the heads of all vital security agencies who are from the from the North.
In a telephone interview from his base in Kano, Mohammed accused Buhari of giving key positions to his cousins, nephews, and in-laws, and is therefore guilty of the corruption he is trying to fight.
Mohammed, a virulent critic of former President Goodluck Jonathan, and originally a supporter of Buhari, said nepotism compromises Buhari’s ability to rule the country well, fight corruption, and deal with rogue lawmakers who pose a threat to his administration.

CLICK HERE TO READ THE INTERVIEW

http://ugowrite.blogspot.com.ng/2016/07/buhari-is-championing-nepotism-junaid.html

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

The author , no doubt still in a sound state of mind wants every ignoramus to believe these slanderous , bushfire allegations against President Buhari:

“Muhammadu Buhari's relatives are the ones dictating policy in Aso Rock:”

What is that supposed to mean?

Next question : Is there anything inherently wrong of “the president, who critics say surrounds himself with Northerners in running national affairs.” ?

If instead of Northerners President Buhari were to have surrounded himself with only South- Easterners or with only the Best of the West, what would the critics be saying then ?

Cornelius

We Sweden

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Cornelius......

'is there anything inherently wrong of “the president, who critics say surrounds himself with Northerners in running national affairs.” ?

hmmmmm

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[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,

Like you

I'm sick and tired of tribal and ethnic politics.

Next they will be demanding an ethnic balance in Nigeria's national football squad would be a great ethic, that in all fairness every major tribe should be represented.

I'm taking my cue from my mentor Ogbeni Kadiri who has consistently argued that a person's ethnicity shouldn't be his main qualification.

This malicious piece that we have been presented with, that six of President Buhari's kith and kin are in some positions of influence should not be exaggerated. Only six? That's a very low number for any democratic country. And which positions of influence are we talking about?

[Ugochukwu Ejinkeonye]

The last time I checked, this was an interview given by Dr. Junaid Mohammed, the man who has built a reputation for his pro-North mindset, but who in this interview chose to sing a new tune. I wonder why the "author" or the "interviewer" should be the butt of attacks here, instead of the man whose views he merely reported? And how does merely reporting an interview translate to someone wishing that Buhari surrounded himself with South Easterners? I doubt if Dr. Junaid Mohammed would go to the extent of proposing that. The way we reason in Nigeria can at times be very strange...

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Cornelius Hamelberg,

It seems you have forgotten my position on Buhari.

I was alluding to the incongruity of your position, not its validity.

I dont consider that character worthy of my efforts to point out his mendacity which some of us saw for what it was before the country was deceived into putting him in a job from where he unleashes a medieval mind set on the nation.

toyin

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,

The “incongruity of (my) position” ?

Which position ?

I counted at least seven Africans in the French National Football Team – and a few more on the substitute bench. They could have all come from Kaduna, what do you care...

Like a Judas priest or like one of the devils possessed by an evil spirit you have been bombarding this forum with endless anti-Buhari diatribes and misleading information through which we have got to understand that your unforgettable position on Brother Buhari is not made of gold, rather, is fashioned by a heart carved out of stone.

No matter. I'm sure that your heart beats for Nigeria. Maybe, also Biafra? (That would be a business earthquake of Brexit dimensions)

“medieval mind set” Who? Brother Buhari?

And the Constitution?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_Y3HXp4sU

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,

The “incongruity of (my) position” ?

Which position ?

I counted at least seven Africans in the French National Football Team – and a few more on the substitute bench. They could have all come from Kaduna, but what do you care...

You have been bombing this forum with endless anti-Buhari items through which you have established firmly that as far as you are concerned Brother Buhari is not made of gold.

True, true, nor are our hearts carved out of stone.

I'm sure that your heart beats for Nigeria. Maybe, also Biafra? You'll soon be requesting a referendum? You want Brother Buhari to say that all who want to go are free to do so?

“medieval mind set” Who? Brother Buhari?

And the Constitution?

You want him to do all the things that his predecessors had left undone?

Consider

On Sunday, 10 July 2016 20:18:17 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:

[John Mbaku]

Perhaps, we could refocus our energies on how to improve living conditions for the millions of Nigerians and Africans who simply cannot meet their basic needs on a daily basis. Based on research that I have conducted, including visits to the Niger Delta and other regions throughout the continent, these brothers and sisters are not asking for money or other forms of handouts, but for improved opportunities (and conditions) so that they can "fish" for themselves. So, why don't we engage in robust discourse to find a way to improve opportunities for self-actualization for these, our brothers and sisters.

Certainly, a bunch of highly educated, skilled and well-informed individuals such as us can come up with a fully articulated document that can be sent to our leaders back home suggesting to them what we believe should be done and how. 

I will take notes, unless there is another volunteer.

Best regards,

Sincerely,

John Mukum Mbaku, Esq. 

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Cornelius,

You uncritical approach helps to sink your boat faster.

The Africans on the French team are there bcs they are the best. Not bcs they are anybody's kinsman. Africans in football are described as being both big and fast and so ideal for the game. Africans have also distinguished themselves globally in boxing, with Muhammed Ali epitomizing that achievement. The same goes for the track and field accomplishments represented by such athletes as Usain Bolt and the members of the US track and field teams. It is not possible to view football and track and field on  a global scale and not see Black people at the apex in various countries, in spite of all the entry restrictions into the West placed as barriers to African immigrants.The conditions that contribute to Kenya's global achievement in track and field are known. The Williams sisters and Tiger Woods are not representative of Black presence in those sports, although the life trajectories that have enabled their dominance of their sports are well known , along with the colossal physical power and determination represented by Serena Williams  enabling her being world no 1 in tennis, exemplified by her recent  historic 22nd grand slam title win  at Wimbledon, are on display for the whole world to see.

In the name of justice, what evidence of achievement exists to justify the Nigerian ruler filling most federal positions with ethnic/religious  affiliates  from the most educationally and economically backward region of Nigeria?

Buhari represents the dregs of Islamic civilization, an unmodern, medieval anachronistic group who are either uneducated in modern learning, as Buhari is, or even if they are, conspire to keep their people uneducated and poor, so they may continue to be useful as unthinking acolytes in securing the power base of these parasites.

Thus,  Buhari's Muslim North is the most educationally and economically underdeveloped region of Nigeria,  a region whose leaders have saddled Nigeria with the culture of mediocrity represented by insisting on low cut off marks for their indigenes in entrance exams to federal educational institutions instead of working hard to educate their people as the West and the East in particular did with their own regions, yet these other regions and the rest of the nation are disadvantaged  by being required to present high grades for entry into the same institutions, then this terrorist supporter of Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen terrorist murderers  fills federal positions with ethnic/religious  affiliates from a particularly  underdeveloped region and you think Nigeria is going anywhere in a hurry?

It is not a crime to be underdeveloped, and at an even lower level than  other members of a generally underdeveloped nation. But it is a crime to either slow down the development of others as well as of oneself or ensure that development remains a mirage across generations for others and even for oneself, by trying to use one's underachieving  region in dominating others, through a culture of keeping one's constituency chronically underdeveloped educationally and economically, encouraging them to feed on a diet of fanatical, dogmatic religion, while struggling to cow the rest of the nation to your barbaric mindset through a culture that encourages regular pogroms of those outside your region but living in your region, through coups staged by your members in the national army, through terrorism, such as Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen terrorists, through threats of terrorism such as Atiku threatening Nigeria with violent change bcs a Northern Muslim was not made PDP 2011 Presidential candidate or Buhari threatening the 'dog and the baboon' would be covered in blood' if he lost the 2015 elections, and proceeding to create an army of appointees from this dognmatised class to ensure perpetual continuity in power even after other groups have allowed themselves to be misled in supporting  your ascension to power, that being a summary of  how we got to the current  hell in Nigeria at the hands of the right wing fascist Northern Muslim group to which Buhari belongs.

Anytime you think I have written anything unfactual about that charlatan, let me know and ill consider responding. But ill not respond to a  challenge that is not serious. Your current challenge is unserious bcs you are making a comparison which anyone can see does not hold, in the spirit of  people like you who keep insisting Nigerians must live by low standards and therefore be assured of perpetual mediocrity in the community of nations. I am responding now only bcs I am in the mood to.

We need ethnic self determination. All ethnicities need to decide whether or not they wish to remain in the Nigerian contraption and the terms of exit or remaining. This oil inspired integration is a deadly scam daily costing many lives, the latest being the recurrent murders of non-Muslims in the North by the fanatical Muslims who define Northern Nigerian Islam.

toyin

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Nigeria is not lacking in ideas.

Many such documents have been churned out over the decades.

The last one is the report of the last constitutional conference which the current ruler is ignoring.

In the light of such a history, what makes you think a document from anywhere will have any impact on the political climate?

Without fundamental political restructuring, the idea that the developmental trajectory of Nigeria as a whole will change looks unlikely to me.

I wonder what must be done for Nigerians to have 24/7 electricity and potable water in every building and what year that will come to pass.

Will it occur in the next 50 years?

thanks

toyin

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,

Re- your words: “We need ethnic self determination. All ethnicities need to decide whether or not they wish to remain in the Nigerian contraption and the terms of exit or remaining”

In addition to dealing with the economy, and wiping out corruption, you would like President Buhari to supervise the dismantling of Nigeria, everyone go his own way? Each new born/ independent / secessionist state will fight corruption on their own. That would make you happy.

You will no longer be unequally yoked to the North which presumably is not anxious to secede.

I know that you don't have any respect for the Nigerian military either

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself and ashamed of uncouth words, unworthy of even those Ogbeni Kadiri the Elder could deem “street urchins” :

“Buhari represents the dregs of Islamic civilization, an unmodern, medieval anachronistic group who are either uneducated in modern learning, as Buhari is, or even if they are, conspire to keep their people uneducated and poor, so they may continue to be useful as unthinking acolytes in securing the power base of these parasites.” ( Toyin Adepoju noh 'fraid God)

Basil goes to church :

You may or may not like Basil and you may or may not be in a sweet mood to respond to this missile, but please understand that we’re in dialogue and I'm still talking to you. I hope that you can hear me

clearly.

You have to calm down. Tell the strident bitch to climb down and turn off all the other gas that you have been emitting.

About responding/ not responding for all your lame excuses, so far, I'm not the one who has to give you freedom to jump off your faithless ladder, even jump off blessed virginia or as Madiba said, Go jump into a pool - to cool down - for all I care - if that is your desire...

Your main problem is that you are forever bristling with contempt for the great religion of al – Islam and - mistakenly, just a while ago sneering at what a figment of your imagination disdains to call “ Medieval Islam” as if like verum Ignoramus, you never knew a thing about “ The Golden Age of Islam”.

I listened to Professor Mark R. Cohen hold forth on this at the Jewish Community House in Stockholm on 5^th October 2005 - and afterwards had a chat with him (he was effusive with his optimism about the peace process and lavish in his praise of Prince Hassan of Jordan)

I remember that it was the 5^th of October, because when I got home that evening , barely through the front door the phone rang with the news that my sister-in-law had just passed away in a convalescent home in the Canary Islands….

From the bottom of the ocean

in your imaginary boat

Cornelius,

We Sweden

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

PS.

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,

is throwing mud at President Buhari as

“this terrorist supporter of Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen terrorist murderers “?

This is scandalous!

Watch your words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yVBniL-hyg

On Monday, 11 July 2016 12:00:11 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:

[John Mbaku]

Toyin:

Sorry, but I am talking about an action plan, not just ideas. And, the leaders need not be political.

[M Buba]

Much more scandalous. This is hate speech. Period. Disgraceful!

Prof Malami Buba

Department of English Language & Linguistics

Sokoto State University

PMB 2134, Birnin-Kebbi Rd,

Sokoto, NIGERIA

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Cornelius

Sorry about your sis in law. May God bring her to Himself/Herself and take the best care of those she left behind.

On Islam, what we see in Nigeria's Muslim North is largely a lower level form of Islam.

it is a lower level form of islam  in the context of the potential and historical actualization of Islam in the course of its history across time and space.

all civilizations demonstrate various levels of quality of expression, from high to low and in between.

a religious culture  that is characterized by mass and individual murder of innocent non-Muslims across the decades from the 1950s to the present, that has become the nourishing ground for self declared Muslim terrorists  who were able to garner support from both politicians and general members of the populace in the first two years of its existence through its focus on bombing churches and machine gunning Christians and govt installations and representatives in the name of the 'power must go to the North' vision, depicting themselves as Muslim warriors, and another terrorist group which has the active backing of the national ruler, his armed forces and the DSS led by a member of the same ethnic/religious group as the national ruler and the terrorists,  as shown by their connivance in the massacre in Enugu state in their withdrawal from the place just before the terrorists  struck even though they were there precisely bcs of the impending terrorist attack, and the national ruler's strategic silences on these massacres and tardy comments when forced to do so, responding largely to work out how to reward the private business  people using this terrorist strategy as a means of land grab and political empowerment, is a culture  facing a grave crisis of barbarism.

if what the Muslim north is best known for is emulating Mohamed in marrying children while this practice  swells child mortality, sickness and poverty, not Mohamed's  austere desert prayers of his earlier days, , if what they are able to get from Mohamed is his warrior spirit and drive to conquer others  without realizing that the world has moved on beyond that mentality, if what they are able to retain from uthman dan fodio is his chauvinistic religiosity  that led to his conquest of the Hausa states whom he said  were not Muslim enough for  his liking, yet the same states are now  feudal communities, if they are not able to learn from other Muslim communities  across the world who are able to live and let live with others, then what we are seeing is a large dose of barbarism with some positivity  in the name of religion.

if one is looking for the inspirational essence of islam, as it  speaks to perennial  human  needs across ideologies  and geography, will one go to such  evil fruits  or go to such examples as the efforts  of Muslims in UK prisons to provide support for inmates, the culture of equality and absolute surrender before the Creator represented by Muslim prayer, the culture of self denial  through fasting, along with other positive aspects of Islam after one has stripped away the political exceptionalism it often comes with?

is the way of ibn arabi and Avicenna among Muslim thinkers   not a light for humanity, now and in the future,  rather than this bloodthirsty wallowing in barbaric attitudes?

classical African religions have moved on from human sacrifice. Nigeria's  Muslim North should also move on from its version of human sacrifice.

thanks

toyin

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,

Re- your words: “We need ethnic self determination. All ethnicities need to decide whether or not they wish to remain in the Nigerian contraption and the terms of exit or remaining”

In addition to dealing with the economy, and wiping out corruption, you would like President Buhari to supervise the dismantling of Nigeria, everyone go his own way? Each new born/ independent / secessionist state will fight corruption on their own. That would make you happy.

You will no longer be unequally yoked to the North which presumably is not anxious to secede.

I know that you don't have any respect for the Nigerian military either

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself and ashamed of uncouth words, unworthy of even those Ogbeni Kadiri the Elder could deem “street urchins” :

“Buhari represents the dregs of Islamic civilization, an unmodern, medieval anachronistic group who are either uneducated in modern learning, as Buhari is, or even if they are, conspire to keep their people uneducated and poor, so they may continue to be useful as unthinking acolytes in securing the power base of these parasites.” ( Toyin Adepoju noh 'fraid God)

Basil goes to church :

You may or may not like Basil and you may or may not be in a sweet mood to respond to this missile, but please understand that we’re in dialogue and I'm still talking to you. I hope that you can hear me

clearly.

You have to calm down. Tell the strident bitch to climb down and turn off all the other gas that you have been emitting.

About responding/ not responding for all your lame excuses, so far, I'm not the one who has to give you freedom to jump off your faithless ladder, even jump off blessed virginia or as Madiba said, Go jump into a pool - to cool down - for all I care - if that is your desire...

Your main problem is that you are forever bristling with contempt for the great religion of al – Islam and - mistakenly, just a while ago sneering at what a figment of your imagination disdains to call “ Medieval Islam” as if like verum Ignoramus, you never knew a thing about “ The Golden Age of Islam”.

I listened to Professor Mark R. Cohen hold forth on this at the Jewish Community House in Stockholm on 5^th October 2005 - and afterwards had a chat with him (he was effusive with his optimism about the peace process and lavish in his praise of Prince Hassan of Jordan)

I remember that it was the 5^th of October, because when I got home that evening , barely through the front door the phone rang with the news that my sister-in-law had just passed away in a convalescent home in the Canary Islands….

From the bottom of the ocean

in your imaginary boat

Cornelius,

We Sweden

On Monday, 11 July 2016 12:00:11 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

its the truth. not hate speech

buhari said war agst boko haram is war agst the north

buhari does not comment on fulani herdsmen massacre of communities until compelled top do so by outcries from people like FFK and fayose whom he is desperately  trying to silence

then he will make a tardy comment and the Fulani terrosts, getting the message,  continue as usual

its the same buhari who declared the 'dog and the baboon would be covered in blood' if he lost in 2015

those are the reasons why buhari is a terrorist and supporter of terrorists

he embodies an extreme right wing northern Muslim political group who are dedicated to power in Nigeria by all means necessary, the most visible of their methods being armed violence and murder

this group's vision and strategy was articulated by atiku abubakar's threat of violent change for Nigeria bcs a northern [muslim] was not made PDP Presidential candidate for 2011

this group is a major reason why the Muslim north is so backward and is a hotbed of violence and murder

until Muslims stop letting bloodthirsty characters use them as cannon fodder the religion remains a tool of barbarism in places like the muslim north

toyin

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Oluwatoyin Adepoju

You paint with a very heavy brush.

From the confines of your region and class-conscious mind you opine that “a lower level form of Islam” is what is practised in Northern Nigeria. But what would a veritable verum ignoramus know about al-Islam or even its most rudimentary essentials, to be passing judgements from on high, disdainfully relegating the efforts of North Nigeria Muslims to but “a lower form of Islam” ?

And the Western Nigerian Muslims, do they practise a higher or a lower form ?

What are the higher forms of Islam, apart from Jihad?

You go on crying about Fulani Herdsmen and Boko Haram but seldom cry about the massacre of thousands of Shia Muslims by Nigeria's brutal military

With knowledge cometh understanding and understanding begetteth respect.

You are of course fully familiar with the life and accomplishments of Shaykh Uthman Dan Fodio

One of his works has been translated as The Handbook On Islam Iman Ihsan by Shaykh Uthman Dan Fodio. It is a succinct teaching of the fundamental requirements - as you would say, “in the context of the potential and historical actualization of Islam in the course of its history across time and space.”…

And just this little question : What level of Christianity is being followed by the Brethren of Edo State ?

Not to worry.

I'm happy that the missionaries did not succeed with me.

Cornelius

We Sweden

[Salimonu Kadiri]

Dr. Junaid Mohammed, the author of Buhari Is Championing Nepotism, is a full-fledge Hausa Fulani and, by extension, a Northerner just like Buhari. Dr. Junaid Mohammed is not accusing Buhari of favouring his ethnic Hausa/Fulani Northerners in federal appointments but of favouring his relatives and friends. Oluwatoyin Adepoju consciously and deliberately has supplanted Junaid Mohammed's accusation of nepotism against Buhari with tribalism or ethnicity. Toyin stated, "The Africans on the French team are there bcs (because) they are the best. Not bcs (because) they are anybody's kinsman." When Cornelius Hamelberg referred to the large concentration of people of African descent in the French national football team in comparison with Buhari's appointments, his discernible intention for any lettered person was to illustrate that ethnic origin of people appointed by Buhari is of no significance provided they are competent and they can deliver on what they are appointed to do. It is not enough for Oluwatoyin Adepoju to tell us that those who are appointed into offices are not the best Nigerians, he must be able to tell us the names of best Nigerians that have been side-stepped in appointments.

 

Toyin wrote, "In the name of justice, what evidence of achievement exists to justify the Nigerian ruler filling most federal positions with ethnic/religious affiliates from the most educationally and economically backward region of Nigeria?" Quantitatively, the number of western educated Nigerians may be more in the South than in the North but has Toyin any evidence that there are more qualitatively western educated in the South than in the North of Nigeria? In the eight years of Obasnjo's and six years of Jonathan's presidency, their governments were dominated by southerners with heavy academic qualifications but crude oil they could not refine, electricity they could not generate, pipe-borne water they could not produce, steel they could not produce from Ajaokuta Steel Mill Limited and the nation's finance they could not manage but were perfect at employing ghost workers. And you say the North is backward economically, may be because in the 21st century, Northerners still roam about with cows to produce beefs to wet the mouths of millions of southerners but comparatively in your economically developed Southern Nigeria, farmers still use cutlasses and hoes in producing basic food items in farming e.g. cassava and yams.

 

While it is your right not to like Buhari politically, you should not go as far as distorting his statement to drown him in your own ocean of blood. You wrote, ".... or Buhari threatening the 'dog and baboon would be covered in blood' if he (Buhari) lost the 2015 elections,..." What he actually said was 'dog and baboon would be covered in blood if the 2015 elections were rigged. There is nothing wrong in saying that the electorates would resort to violent protest if the elections were rigged but in your own mythical world, you have dishonestly changed, if the 2015 elections were rigged to if he (Buhari) were to lose the 2015 elections. That is neither fair nor honest of you.

 

It is often touted that Nigeria has about 300 ethnic groups and you are seriously agitating, "We need ethnic self-determination. All ethnicities need to decide whether or not they wish to remain in the Nigerian contraption and terms of exit or remaining." What happens if everyone of the 300 ethnic groups wants to be a sovereign state? How do you draw the boundaries between sovereign states of Eromi, Esan, Auchi, Sabogida-Ora and Benin in the present day Edo state? I find it difficult to understand the wisdom of your idea that 'divided we are strong and united we are weak.' It is just like saying that a tree would make a forest!!

S.Kadiri 
 

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From: oluwak...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 07:43:21 +0100
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Buhari Is Championing Nepotism – Junaid Mohammed
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com

[Salimonu Kadiri]

Where and when did Buhari say war against Boko Haram is war against the North? The current  factional Chairman of PDP, Senator Ali Modu Sheriff, was Governor of Borno State who was said to have financed Yusouf Mohammed, the leader of Boko Haram, and even appointed one of them as member of his cabinet.
 
Even if Buhari had uttered the statement, "War against Boko Haram is war against the North," of what consequence was that to the prosecution of the war against Boko Haram when the 15 billion dollars military budget was shared between top military dogs and PDP politicians to prosecute their election campaigns and augment their election rigging efforts? 
 
Why is it that the Caliphate created by Boko Haram under Jonathan has now been demolished by Buhari who you alleged is a supporter of Boko Haram?

 

Toyin thousands of Nigerians are prematurely dying everyday in Nigeria not because of Hausa/Fulani, Boko Haram or northern Muslims but because of  PDP Economic terrorism which was unleashed on Nigeria in the 16 years of PDP rule. Boko Haram or some northern Muslim fanatics might have killed some Nigerians, but the PDP Economic Terrorists have actually killed the nation, Nigeria, which Buhari is now trying to resurrect and it is the duty of all patriotic Nigerians to support him in his efforts.

S.Kadiri  
 

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From: oluwak...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 04:43:25 +0100
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Buhari Is Championing Nepotism – Junaid Mohammed
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

We need a redefinition of the terms of co-existence among Nigerian ethnicities.

Kadiri's effort to position the discussion away from my broader argument about ethnic/religious centred nepotism by the national ruler and focus  it in Junaid Muhammed's critique  of  the national ruler in making his relatives the orientation of national policy demonstrates the abysmal level to which we have fallen.

Things have become so bad, the level of nepotism so low, that Junaid Mummaded's issue, being Hausa-Fulani himself, is not with pro-Hausa-Fulani nepotism,  which was a given from Buhari's first appointments, but a further advance in depravity represented by household centred  nepotism, as it where, in which the national ruler's focus for determining national direction is members of his extended family.

Classical primivitiveness.

Am I able to address this level of degeneration? Am I not partly paralyzed by such horror which some of us saw coming while the Wole Soyinkas sold the country out by turning back on their earlier wisdom to endorse a character whose whole history is one of deep crudity?

I cannot even gloat in the face of the deluded many from the SW, in particular, even from the SE, and others who were undiscerning enough to refuse to see that a person who declared 'the war agst Bioko Haram is war agst the North' is evil news, but either chose to hope agst hope or to brainwash themselves.

I noted the point being made by Junaid Muhammed but chose not to address it, perhaps was not even able to process it adequately, seeing it as a subset of a larger problem, a level of degeneration that my brain needed to take time to acknowledge, which, thanks to Kadiri's insistence,  I am acknowledging in the face of Kadiri's inability to recognise the further descent into the abyss the issue implies.

Rather than subject myself to more pain  by reflecting on  household centred nepotism, the latest stage in the grand betrayal of the Nigerian people and even of his Southern Nigerian political  allies by the national ruler, allow me to address the broader  issue of ethnic/religious centred nepotism in terms of the drastic need for national restructuring that will help to free the creativity of Nigerians from a system created for backwardness.

Since some characters now claim they should be free to employ Northern Muslims to as many positions as possible bcs the focus is on competence, when will Northern Muslim states be removed from the culture of mediocrity represented by their designation as educationally disadvantaged states, a category  largely populated by Northern Muslim states, so as to spare other Nigerians the misery of being cheated  in whatever educational opportunities Nigerian educational institutions have to offer by giving places to low scoring candidates from Northern Muslim states while high scoring candidates from other states are denied such opportunities?

Now that the Muslim North, historically the most underdeveloped region of Nigeria, has reached a point of such human power development that its human power is the best in Nigeria and so can fill most positions, when will we put this human-power to work within a system in which states are primarily responsible for generating and keeping the revenue they generate and share a small fraction of that with the federal government rather than the current parasitic  mentality in which those very Northern Muslim states with relatively abysmal GPD compared to others guzzle monies from the centre, monies largely derived from Niger Delta oil and such higher performing states as Lagos?

Now that Northern Muslim technocrats are now so accomplished that they can be described as capable of replacing trechnocrats from the South who could not deliver on essential services, when will all states be cut loose from depending on centralized energy generation and distribution so that states will  build these systems  by themselves?

In short, now that the slowest member of the team has caught up at last, when are we going to move to a situation of each section or region taking responsibility for its own development instead of this culture of being subject to either medieval arrangements to suit such slow developers or the country as a trough for politicians to feed on since there is no unifying vision?

When shall we make sure the powers of the federal centre are so reduced and the allocation to the Presidency and  salaries of lawmakers are set by individual regions  in terms of their revenue generation relative to their development needs, , reducing the desperation by people to invoke violence as an election strategy, calling on dogs and baboons to be bathed in blood if they lose an election bcs if they lose the election must have been rigged?

Since the Muslim North is now so developed, when are its technocrats going to develop modern animal husbandry  techniques instead of the Miyeti Allah, the Fulani cattle rearers association, which can rightly be described as a terrorist group,  using terrorist methods to steal land from others, employing the parasitic 'unity' of the country as a ploy to roam the nation, engaging in massacres across the country?

As they say in Nigerian pidgin- yeye dey smell- bullshit  stinks.

When restructuring  arrives and the winds of change indicate it must,  everyone will decide their borders. Those who wish to merge political identities will merge. Those who wish for an EU style arrangement will pursue that. Those who wish to go it alone, will go it alone. Some countries in the West, the most developed region in the world, do not have the population  of some Nigerian ethnic groups. Yet in the face of this ridiculously structured  behemoth known as Nigeria,it is claimed the budget of London, the capital of of a particular small island nation,  is bigger  than that of Nigeria.

Is that the kind of ridiculous  bigness you want to continue  with?

toyin

 

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Oluwatoyin Adepoju <oluwak...@gmail.com> wrote:

Cornelius,

The entire rationale for my analysis is in my essay, a rationale based on historical facts.

Feel free to address them or not.

Why this determination to resort to insults in debate- ignoramus etc. It does not help you case.

We all know the Islam of Western Nigeria is more civilized than that of the North and why. If you claim not to know why, see my last post.

As for Dan Fodio, was he much better than a political opportunist using religion to pursue political dominance?

toyin

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Essays on and Related Directly to  Islam  by Vincent Oluwatoyin Adepoju

Largely reached by Googling  "Islamic Mysticism by Adepoju" and Googling "Islam  by Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju"

1."Islamic Mysticism and Ibn Arabi in Relation to the Convergence of Cognitive Domains"( 2012)

2. "Mystics in Action : Akan Adinkra Mysticism of Bröther Owusu-Ankomah in Dialogue with the Islamic Mysticism of Umar Ibn al-Farid" (2015)

3. "Hijab Aesthetics and Mysticism" (2016)

4. "Rethinking  and  Representing  Islamic  Theology in an Age of  Violent Islamic  Extremism" (2012)

5. "Boko Haram : Part 2 : The Religious  Imperative" (2012)

6. Boko Haram : The Educational  Imperative : Integrating Western and Islamic  Civilization and  Education (2012)

which goes with

7. "What is Western Education?" ( 2012)

concluding

8.Education and Politics: Comparing the Northern and Southern Nigerian Opposition Partnership in the 2015 Elections ( 2015) which discusses "Educational Empowerment and Social Unrest in Northern Nigeria" and "Islamic Civilization and the Challenge of Modernization".

I am likely to organise these essays in my blog Exploring Islam, begun in 2012.

I particularly recommend "Hijab Aesthetics and Mysticism" for its magnificent images and superb text, with some sublime quotations.

This list is a  response to the following questions from Cornelius :

'But what would a veritable verum ignoramus know about al-Islam or even its most rudimentary essentials, to be passing judgements from on high, disdainfully relegating the efforts of North Nigeria Muslims to but “a lower form of Islam”?

And the Western Nigerian Muslims, do they practise a higher or a lower form ?

What are the higher forms of Islam, apart from Jihad?'

Thanks

toyin

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,

You insult the Muslims of Northern Nigeria - that they are only practising “a lower level form of Islam” and when I question verum ignoramus (we do not know) you are offended because you believe yourself to be an expert based on your extensive research and “writings”...

On Sunday ( 10^th July) , I had a very nice approximately two hours delightful one on one conversation with Claude Kayat (he has written 27 plays and nine novels) and I'm still laughing about what I have adopted as a maxim from him - one of exasperation as on more than one occasion I've seen him throw his hands up and say “ too many words!!!!!!!!!!” I have known Claude for about forty years.

Approximately fifteen years ago, from an evening service I was walking down St. Paulsgatan with Rabbi Meir Horden when he said to me, “Cornelius, I have read the Quran”. He wanted me to say something, but I said nothing, so we walked on in silence. No words. I simply did not want him to start attacking the Quran or say anything unsavoury about Islam in a way that would confirm to me that as far as Islam is concerned he was or is an ignoramus, although he has an M.Sc. in biology

Since you are busy handing out diplomas left, right and centre “lower level Islam” etc. next I should be respectfully asking you what level of Islam you believe is being practised in Mecca and Medina, and to top that, what kind of Islam do you think that the Prophet of Islam – salallahu alaihi wa salaam, practised?

So, I'm supposed to be impressed by the quality and quantity of your publications that you have presented us with. Well I am, although I have not read any of your works on Islam and Islamic mysticism (or Hinduism, or Buddhism, or the Kabbalah) and I don't intend to read them either. Why should I read Toyin Adepoju's gobbledygook on Islamic mysticism or Hinduism, Buddhism, or Kabbalah? And you know that I have habitually referred to myself and not to you as Ignoramus Cornelius – and as Cornelius Ignoramus I have always preferred to go to the oral, the written and the living mystical source, directly.

Usman Dan Fodio's Handbook is a treasure ( 53 pages) ; it is a translation of his Al-Kitab Usul ad deen ( The roots of the life-transaction) and his Al-Kitab Ulum al-mu'amalat (The sciences of behaviour

Jacob Neusner has written about nine hundred books (on Judaic subjects)

I'm oddly reminded of this anecdote :

“Naipaul’s reaction to Nigeria’s Wole Soyinka winning the Nobel in 1986 (according to Paul Theroux):  “Has he written anything?” Then adding that the Nobel Committee was, as usual, “pissing on literature from a great height.” (From “A Collection of the Worst Things V.S. Naipaul Has Ever Said)

Naipaul himself did write quite a bit about Islam , first-hand accounts such as his

Among the Believers: An Islamic Journey

Beyond Belief: Islamic Excursions Among the Converted Peoples

Much more interesting than the boring aforementioned is his

The Masque of Africa: Glimpses of African Belief

I very much appreciate Oga Moses Ochonu's published works on Nigeria and Samuel Zalanga's occasional epistles. Outside of this forum also Adebayo Olukoshi's deliberations on Nigerian matters...

I imagine that I could be interested if in the future you were to write about the sociology of Islam in Nigeria, say in the mode of Abdolkarim Soroush or Dr. Ali Shariati all of whose available works I read a long time ago, of special significance On the Sociology of Islam and his Marxism and other Western Fallacies

Stay well.

Cornelius

[Salimonu Kadiri]

In the Star-War movie, one of the characters, Yoda, in advising his pupils against fear, anger and hatred said, "Fear leads to anger; Anger leads to hate; and Hate leads to suffering." I must tell you, dear Oluwatoyin Adepoju, that Yoda was correct because when one has fear, there is the instinct of fight or flight. When one chooses to fight, it manifests itself in a form of anger which then leads to some form of hate. Hate turns into suffering quickly, and when one has all these emotions high, one suffers or strives to make someone else suffer. Hating one thing could easily turn into hating many other things. From your submissions on this forum, I have observed that you are very angry but you must be very cautious because anger is one of the greatest route to perdition. Anger makes people to walk away from their senses, acting out irrational violence as a response, which, quite often, they end up regretting. May I point out that just as you did not choose to be born an Esan (Ishan) man in the present day Edo State part of Nigeria, so did Buhari not choose to be born Hausa/Fulani in Northern Nigeria. Thus, it is against the law of nature to criticize and condemn Buhari because of his place of birth and his declared religious orientation.
 
Many Nigerians like you are only concerned with the ethno-religious affiliation of office holders in Nigeria which makes it impossible to hold office holders responsible for their incompetent. Tribe and religion of any office holder is of no importance as long as goods and services for which the office is created are produced for the people. As a bull, you see red in everything Buhari who you must always rush to sting with your horns. Seeing red in Buhari, you wrote, "I cannot even gloat in the face of the deluded many ...... and others who are undiscerning enough to refuse to see that a person who declared 'the war (against) agst Boko Haram is war (against)agst the North' is evil news, but either chose to hope (against) agst hope or to brainwash themselves." Buhari who you claimed declared that 'war against Boko Haram is war against the North' has evidently through military actions recaptured all the territories occupied by Boko Haram during the past administration of President Jonathan. Only a dishonest person would call Buhari a supporter of Boko Haram for bombarding and bombing them out of occupied areas of Nigeria. Wake up, Oluwatoyin Adepoju and be just!!!

 

Stretching your hatred for Hausa/Fulani, Northerners and Buhari, in particular, beyond reason, you  Oluwatoyin Adepoju queried, "When shall we make sure the powers of the federal centre are so reduced ....... and reducing the desperation by people to invoke violence as an election strategy, calling on dogs and baboons to be bathed in blood if they lose an election (because) bcs if they lose, the election must have been rigged?" In his earlier post on the same issue, Oluwatoyin had written, "..... or Buhari threatening the 'dog and baboon' would be 'covered in blood' if he lost the 2015 elections, ....." Noteworthy is that Mr.Adepoju's former expression, "if he (Buhari) lost the 2015 elections," is now modified and extended by him to embrace all Hausa/Fulani or Northerners in this manner, "if they lose an election bcs if they lose, the election must have been rigged." Has Mr. Adepoju lost his sense of history or feigning ignorance of it that it was Southerners led by Dr. Michael Ihenuokura Okpara of the then NCNC who protested against the alleged rigging of the Federal elections of December 1964? While polling boots were destroyed in Lagos and most parts of the Western Region, no federal elections took place in the NCNC controlled Eastern Region. Similarly, after the regional election into the Western House of Assembly in October 1965 and in which peoples' will were subverted, riot broke out throughout Western Region against the rigging of the election and the riots continued unabated until 15 January 1966, when the Five Majors struck. In the Hausa BBC program interview with Buhari which Toyin partially referred to, Buhari stated that he would accept the result of the then approaching 2015 election if it was free and fair but added that dog and baboon would be soaked in blood if the election was rigged. It is only in the twisted mind of  Oluwatoyin Adepoju that the story of dog and baboon being soaked in blood if Buhari lost the 2015 election has evolved. However, Oluwatoyin Adepoju has nothing against the election results in the South-east and South-South where the number of Voters exceeded the number of registered voters due to sabotage of PVC machine readers in 2015.

 

On the dismantling of the Nigerian State into many components, Toyin wrote, "When restructuring arrives, and the wind of change indicates it must, everyone will decide borders. Those who wish to merge political identities will merge. Those who wish for an EU style arrangement will pursue that. Those who wish to go it alone, will go it alone." This amounts to prescribing cutting off the head as a solution to migraine but the problem is how to carry out the experiment in order to know if the prescription would yield  the desired relief?

S.Kadiri
 

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From: oluwak...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:47:12 +0100
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Buhari Is Championing Nepotism – Junaid Mohammed
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

When the national ruler is  able to combine a federal appointment strategy that privileges his ethnic/religious  affiliates with one that does the following, he is a true leader. If he does not, he is simply emphasising  the rabid sectionalism many warned is his true nature- 

'Since some characters now claim they should be free to employ Northern Muslims to as many positions as possible bcs the focus is on competence, when will Northern Muslim states be removed from the culture of mediocrity represented by their designation as educationally disadvantaged states, a category  largely populated by Northern Muslim states, so as to spare other Nigerians the misery of being cheated  in whatever educational opportunities Nigerian educational institutions have to offer by giving places to low scoring candidates from Northern Muslim states while high scoring candidates from other states are denied such opportunities?

Now that the Muslim North, historically the most underdeveloped region of Nigeria, has reached a point of such human power development that its human power is the best in Nigeria and so can fill most positions, when will we put this human-power to work within a system in which states are primarily responsible for generating and keeping the revenue they generate and share a small fraction of that with the federal government rather than the current parasitic  mentality in which those very Northern Muslim states with relatively abysmal GPD compared to others guzzle monies from the centre, monies largely derived from Niger Delta oil and such higher performing states as Lagos?

Now that Northern Muslim technocrats are now so accomplished that they can be described as capable of replacing trechnocrats from the South who could not deliver on essential services, when will all states be cut loose from depending on centralized energy generation and distribution so that states will  build these systems  by themselves?

In short, now that the slowest member of the team has caught up at last, when are we going to move to a situation of each section or region taking responsibility for its own development instead of this culture of being subject to either medieval arrangements to suit such slow developers or the country as a trough for politicians to feed on since there is no unifying vision?

When shall we make sure the powers of the federal centre are so reduced and the allocation to the Presidency and  salaries of lawmakers are set by individual regions  in terms of their revenue generation relative to their development needs, , reducing the desperation by people to invoke violence as an election strategy, calling on dogs and baboons to be bathed in blood if they lose an election bcs if they lose the election must have been rigged?

Since the Muslim North is now so developed, when are its technocrats going to develop modern animal husbandry  techniques instead of the Miyeti Allah, the Fulani cattle rearers association, which can rightly be described as a terrorist group,  using terrorist methods to steal land from others, employing the parasitic 'unity' of the country as a ploy to roam the nation, engaging in massacres across the country?'

There is no significant difference between Boko Haram and Fulani terrorism. Fulani terrorism is even worse bcs it is nation wide and enjoys the open if tacit support of the national ruler, who has been compelled to fight Boko Haram bcs his coming into office necessitated that, if not, he would have continued with his policy arguing they should not be killed.

Even Soyinka who let Nigeria down by supporting Buhari is crying out for national restructuring. Even Atiku, whose political ambition has hinged on ruling Nigeria, is doing the same. The Biafrans and people like me calling out for renegotiation of the forced and deadly union continue to grow.

When that day arrives, the people who, like Buhari,  insist on either ruling or making the dog and the baboon swim in blood  or, like Atiku,  insist on violent change bcs they are not allowed to rule will be able to do what they like to their own constituencies while other constituencies  will be spared the burden of such vampires. 

It is approaching.

toyin

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

To insist that people from the most educationally and economically backward region of Nigeria have suddenly become the best who must therefore occupy practically all jobs needed to steer the nation forward  is self defeating for those people and for the nation.

What is the business of the chap running the education ministry with that job? What is his background in educational management? Was his whole career not in journalism? What is his level of education? Why is he the minister and Professor Anthony Anwukah the minister of state? Is that not the same chap who conspired with Buhari to sack or refuse to renew contracts of all VCs in all the new universities, replacing them with mainly  their ethnic cronies, a disproportionate   no from one state, Kaduna state?

Are we not faced here with another case of NEPA Bill Certificate, the results of which are gradually unfolding to those who said they must have the uneducated military man even if all he has for a secondary school certificate is an electricity bill?

NEPA Bill Certificate President = Nation wide Fulani terrorism supported by the govt, blatant ethnic cronyism, massacre of peaceful protesters and of unarmed Shiites, killings by Northern Muslim fanatics with relative silence from the national ruler, confusion in the face of falling demand for oil, using the nation's foreign  exchange in importing grass to feed cows of private Fulani business people  people while there is none for those willing to buy it to send their children for world class education vital  for Nigerian development, shielding questionable loyalists  like Chief of Army Staff Buratai and known corrupt people like Amaechi and Fashola while attacking perceived opponents, spending the country's money to hire the most expensive lawyers  in court defending the chrage that he is not educationally qualified to lead the nation instead of producing the non-existent secondary school certificate etc 

Is it not Buhari's  ethnic crony brought in from retirement to head the DSS who is his right hand man in the enabling  of Fulani terrorism? What honesty is there in making another ethnic crony the head of the electoral body? He has done the same with the chief of army staff.

What Northern Nigeria needs is a determined educational and economic push. Not this perpetual scramble for dominance that right wing politicians  from the region are committed to. When agitation for independence was underway, the Muslim North was described as unprepared in terms of human power. More than 50 years later, has the equation changed? 

The strategy employed by Muslim Northern politicians, exemplified par excellence by Buhari in this instance, of ethnic favouritism simply sustains a culture of cronysim, of godfatherism, not one of hard work that aspires to recognition through personal achievement. I expect this is the kind of culture right wing Northern Muslim politicians like best in order to consolidate  their power base, a culture that further impoverishes the region. 

The political dynamic of the country is gradually shifting, with the blatant abuses of this Buhari era bringing things to a boiling point. His allies in the SW have boldly spoken out agst the drive for land control, to commandeer  land across the nation by the political/economic/military bloc be belongs to, represented  by Fulani herdsmen terrorism, a SW APC governor being the most forthright  in declaring his state has no such land to spare. This is different from his outspoken opponent Fayose, governor of Ekiti state  raising a counter army to combat the Fulani terrorists. SE states are also raising such state centred armies. The Middle Belt is crying out about this terrorist invasion. The Niger Delta is boiling  with armed demands  for national restructuring. In the midst of it all, the only initiative the national ruler has shown active interest in is going to personally commission a military task force agst cattle rustlers while keeping his distance from the many communities decimated by his fellow Fulani herdsmen. . As all this goes on, his ethnic/religious kinspeople are killing non-Muslims in the North and for  no reason.

The value of Nigerian oil is  falling. There has been no improvement in the quality of life of Nigerians, instead things are getting worse, with electricity, for example, falling lower than with the last government.

How long can the charade be sustained?

The sooner the Muslim North focuses on mass quality education and rapid development, rather than engaging in the self deception that grabbing public offices  is the way to power the better. Soon, there might be no country to dominate as all those who have prepared themselves for true leadership will be able to do what they have prepared  for in nations where they are not subject to this culture of mediocrity that has plagued  Nigerian politics  for most of its existence.

thanks

toyin

[Bitrus Gwamna]

Did he have to come from the north to take those decisions?  The answer is no.  He would have taken advice from civil servants many of  whom are from the educationally advantaged south.  Don’t allow your ethnocentric view becloud your sense of judgement, for it demans your academic calling.

Bitrus Gwamna,

 

P.S.  Yes I am an individual from that educationally backward region, forget that I had my education from an institution situated in an educationally advantaged or forward looking state.

[Salimonu Kadiri]

You can repost the same slogan ten thousand times, but that cannot turn it into truth or reality. I would not have bothered to respond to you but for the sake of readers who might be tempted to take your slogan as the truth. You asked, "Are we not faced here with another case of NEPA Bill Certificate, ......the uneducated military man even if all he has for a secondary school certificate is an electricity bill? Thereafter, you proceeded, "NEPA Bill Certificate President= Nation wide Fulani terrorism...." Since you mention electricity bill, it will make sense to understand the last underlined statement of yours as, "NEPA Electricity Bill Certificate President=Nation wide Fulani terrorism....." This statement of yours is illogical and meaningless to any normal person, but that does not worry me. What worries me is your reference to NEPA electricity Bill in year 2016. As we all know, Nigerian Electrical Power Authority (NEPA) replaced the old Electricity Corporation of Nigeria (ECN). Later, Nigerians interpreted the acronym, NEPA, as Never Expect Power Always, due to the epileptic electric power supply in Nigeria. However, under Obasanjo's presidency NEPA was renamed Power Holding Corporation of Nigeria (PHCN) the acronym which Nigeria interpreted as Problem Has Changed Name because epileptic power supply persisted. Under Jonathan's presidency, PHN was dismantled and privatised giving birth to GENCO, the generating companies and DISCO, the distributing companies. As of date, there are 11 Electricity Distributing Companies in Nigeria under an organisation called Association of Nigerian Electricity Distributors (ANED). The Executive Director of ANED is Mr. Sunday Oduntan. The Electricity Regulatory Commission, NERC, regulates and approves tariffs set by DISCO. The acting Chief Executive Officer of NERC is Dr. Tony Akah. The process of privatisation carried out under Jonathan began when Professor Bartholomew Nnaji was Minister of Power and it was completed by his successor, Professor Chinedu Ositadinma Ndubuisi Nebo. Dr. Sam Amadi was until March this year Chairman of NERC and he gave himself severance allowance of N400 million when he left. As of date, Babatunde Fashola is the Minister of Power.
 
So, Oluwatoyin Adepoju, I don't know what NEPA Electricity Bill has to do with Buhari or his educational Certificate, Northerners or Hausa/Fulani but, if you check the names of the actors in the generation and distribution of electricity in Nigeria as I have mentioned above you will discover that they are Southerners. I may be wrong of course, if as you bear a Yoruba name without being a Yoruba, those giant administrators of Nigerian power supplies bear southern Nigerian names without being southerner!!
S.Kadiri 
 

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From: oluwak...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:46:43 +0100