The one issue Dembski cannot answer

[Ray Martinez]

By singling out William Dembski, I am also referring to his intellectual colleagues, students, and supporters.

It's a well known fact that Dembski, rightly so, rails hard against the evils of Materialism (also known as Naturalism). The founding statement at his blog "Uncommon Descent: Serving the Intelligent Design Community" is an anti-Materialism statement (1). Yet despite the fact of vehement public opposition, Dembski, since college, has accepted the main scientific claim of Materialism: mutation plus natural selection causing species mutability. 

I find this contradiction epitomizing hypocrisy and utterly inexcusable. 

Ray (Old Earth, Paleyan IDist-species immutabilist)

 

Reference:

 

1. http://www.uncommondescent.com/about-2/

 

"Uncommon Descent holds that…

Materialistic ideology has subverted the study of biological and cosmological origins so that the actual content of these sciences has become corrupted. The problem, therefore, is not merely that science is being used illegitimately to promote a materialistic worldview, but that this worldview is actively undermining scientific inquiry, leading to incorrect and unsupported conclusions about biological and cosmological origins. At the same time, intelligent design (ID) offers a promising scientific alternative to materialistic theories of biological and cosmological evolution — an alternative that is finding increasing theoretical and empirical support. Hence, ID needs to be vigorously developed as a scientific, intellectual, and cultural project."

[Peter Nyikos]

On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 6:48:26 PM UTC-4, Ray Martinez wrote:

By singling out William Dembski, I am also referring to his intellectual colleagues, students, and supporters.

It's a well known fact that Dembski, rightly so, rails hard against the evils of Materialism (also known as Naturalism). The founding statement at his blog "Uncommon Descent: Serving the Intelligent Design Community" is an anti-Materialism statement (1). Yet despite the fact of vehement public opposition, Dembski, since college, has accepted the main scientific claim of Materialism: mutation plus natural selection causing species mutability. 

As I have tried to tell you, you insufferable blockhead, that is very far from being the main scientific claim of Materialism

It is even FULLY COMPATIBLE with the claim that microevolution is possible, but macroevolution is not.

See quotation below.

 

I find this contradiction epitomizing hypocrisy and utterly inexcusable. 

You "find" nothing of the sort. Keep reading.

 

Ray (Old Earth,

No, you only subscribe to the MAXIMUM life of the universe that the pre-1859 Victorians held:

100 million years.

And you haven't a breathed a word as to what they actually tried to argue FOR -- did they

give ANY reasons why they held the earth to be older than, say, 50,000 years?

 

Paleyan IDist-species immutabilist)

So you allege. But the evidence is slowly piling up that you ceased years ago to be

a practicing Christian, and have even become a Christianity-hating apostate,

who only claims to be a species immutabilist so you can pour hatred upon over 90%

of all true Christians,  like the people in Uncommon Descent (as you did above)

and like creationist Henry M. Morris, who wrote:

        In verse 11 occurs the first mention of both "seed" and

        kind."  ... Each type of organism has its own unique structure

        of the DNA and can only specify the reproduction of that same

        kind.  There is a tremendous amount of variational potential

        within each kind, facilitating the generation of distinct

        individuals and even of many varieties within the kind, but

        nevertheless precluding the evolution of new *kinds!*  A

        great deal of "horizontal" variation is easily possible, but

        no "vertical" changes.

        It is significant that the phrase "after its kind" occurs

        ten times in the first chapter of Genesis.  Whatever precisely

        is meant by the term "kind" (Hebrew *min*), it does indicate

        the limitations of variation.  Each organism was to reproduce

        after its own kind, not after some other kind.  Exactly what

        this corresponds to in terms of the modern Linnaean

        classification system is a matter to be decided by

        future research.  It will probably be found eventually

        that the *min* often is identical with the species,

        sometimes with the genus, and possibly once in

        a while with the "family".  Practically never

        is variation possible outside the biologic family.

                Henry M. Morris, _The Genesis Record_, Baker Book House,

                Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1976, pp. 63-64

[Ray Martinez]

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 7:48:18 PM UTC-7, Peter Nyikos wrote:

On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 6:48:26 PM UTC-4, Ray Martinez wrote:

By singling out William Dembski, I am also referring to his intellectual colleagues, students, and supporters.

It's a well known fact that Dembski, rightly so, rails hard against the evils of Materialism (also known as Naturalism). The founding statement at his blog "Uncommon Descent: Serving the Intelligent Design Community" is an anti-Materialism statement (1). Yet despite the fact of vehement public opposition, Dembski, since college, has accepted the main scientific claim of Materialism: mutation plus natural selection causing species mutability. 

As I have tried to tell you, you insufferable blockhead, that is very far from being the main scientific claim of Materialism

The unprofessional terminology of Professor Nyikos aside, his assertion denying natural selection causing species mutability to be the main scientific claim of Materialism remains false. Before Darwin published in 1859 undesigned material causation enjoyed zero scientific acceptance. 

Ray

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[Ray Martinez]

Before Darwin published in 1859 undesigned material causation enjoyed zero scientific acceptance. Therefore in Biology natural selection is the main scientific claim of Materialism. Darwin offered natural selection as replacing the creation concepts to explain how species past and species present come to exist in the wild.

 

Ray