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Steve

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Apr 14, 2007, 6:52:23 PM4/14/07
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I have today fitted a Netgear DG834G for someone who uses Virgin.net
broadband. Despite being connected and reporting upstream and downstream
speeds + SN Ratio etc, the unit failed to CHAP, and aquire an IP dress from
the server. Does anyone have a cure forr this? Surely its not a problem
using a DG834G with Virgin.net is it?

Thanks
Steve

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Len

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Apr 15, 2007, 1:04:13 AM4/15/07
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"Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Does this person still have access to the Internet via a modem perhaps? If
so, point them in the direction of this group and I can give them the
correct settings. It will be easier than involving anyone else. There are
too many experts about that only know how to unpack something from a box but
haven't a clue how to follow simple instructions or where to do a bit of
research.
The DG834G is fine with Virgin and many other ISPs.

All routers providing they are the correct type will work with any ISP.
It's only the settings that need to be correct.


Paul Woodsford

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Apr 15, 2007, 1:28:47 AM4/15/07
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"Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Don't forget that Virgin's ADSL login user name is " *******@adsl.virgin.net

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Lynn W

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Apr 15, 2007, 4:23:29 AM4/15/07
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"Len" <le...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Hi Len
Perhaps you could help me with my problem that I have just posted re
using the router with macBook?
Lynn

Steve

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Apr 15, 2007, 6:16:08 AM4/15/07
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"Len" <le...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Does this person still have access to the Internet via a modem perhaps?


If
> so, point them in the direction of this group and I can give them the
> correct settings. It will be easier than involving anyone else. There
are
> too many experts about that only know how to unpack something from a box
but
> haven't a clue how to follow simple instructions or where to do a bit of
> research.
> The DG834G is fine with Virgin and many other ISPs.
>
> All routers providing they are the correct type will work with any ISP.
> It's only the settings that need to be correct.

Len if you could help me on his behalf I would appreciate it. I am helping
an elderly gentlemen (in his mid eighties) to go wireless with a laptop. He
recently lost his wife and he is moving all but his main PC downstairs so he
doesn't need to trail up and down the stairs too much. He already has
Virgin.net connected using a Speedtouch 330 (upstairs on a desktop), but the
DG834G fails to give him an IP address from the virgin.net server. I know
there is nothing wrong with his line or service as it already works with the
speedtouch. If you would be happy to help me, I am the one doing the job
for him.

Thanks
Steve


Eric James

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Apr 15, 2007, 7:06:18 AM4/15/07
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"Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Len if you could help me on his behalf I would appreciate it. I am
helping
> an elderly gentlemen (in his mid eighties) to go wireless with a laptop.
He
> recently lost his wife and he is moving all but his main PC downstairs so
he
> doesn't need to trail up and down the stairs too much. He already has
> Virgin.net connected using a Speedtouch 330 (upstairs on a desktop), but
the
> DG834G fails to give him an IP address from the virgin.net server. I know
> there is nothing wrong with his line or service as it already works with
the
> speedtouch. If you would be happy to help me, I am the one doing the job
> for him.
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>

If the virgin net website support was any good you would not need to ask in
here.

Unfortunately though their website technical support is crap and
contains no settings whatsoevevr for the various popular routers on sale
today. Their website is nothing short of useless.

Perhaps they prefer to rip off their cutomers by getting them
to call the 0906 support line instead?

Just my thoughts

It's Me

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Apr 15, 2007, 9:05:22 AM4/15/07
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"Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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It may help if you posted current settings, substitute user details but post
what you have so far.

It may help others in seeing the problem and being able to help.


Paul Woodsford

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Apr 15, 2007, 12:12:09 PM4/15/07
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"Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Settings from my Netgear DG834G

Router plugged into power and ADSL filter, connected to PC via ethernet
link.
Via IE goto 192.168.0.1 and login using Admin as username and Password as
password.
These can be changed later.

Goto BASIC settings

Does your Internet Connection require a login - Y
Encapsulation - PPPoA
Login - "user name"@adsl.virgin.net
Password - Virgin password
Idle Timeout - 0
Internet IP Address Get Dynamically from ISP
Internet IP Address Get Automatically from ISP
NAT Enable

Goto ADSL Settings

Multiplexing Method - VC-Based
VPI - 0
VCI - 38

Goto Wireless Settings

Wireless Network
Name (SSID) - Netgear
Region - Europe
Channel - Choose 1 to 11, your choice depends on interference etc
Mode - g & b

Wireless Access Point
Enable Wireless Access Point
Allow Broadcast of name (SSID)
Disable Wireless Isolation

Security Options

Select one as you desire and then follow instructions from Netgear help Menu
/ manual

BEFORE you setup the Wireless Lan make sure you have Internet connectivity
via the ethernet connection.

Hope this helps you out. These are my settings as given by the Netgear setup
Wizard and I connected 1st time.

kraftee

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Apr 15, 2007, 1:48:23 PM4/15/07
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Why didn't you just say run the setup wizard & be done with it??


Steve

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Apr 15, 2007, 2:16:57 PM4/15/07
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"Paul Woodsford" <paul.wo...@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
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> Login - "user name"@adsl.virgin.net

Thanks for that Paul, actually everything is set up just the same as yours,
except the owner of the account assured me his login
was "user name"@virgin.net and not "user name"@adsl.virgin.net as you
have stated. I bet its the login thats at fault. Is there any chance you
could try logging in with "user name"@virgin.net and let me know if your
router is reporting that it is connected, but fails to get an IP address. I
am having to work with this gentlemen at distance and every time I try
anything I have to drive 20+ miles to his place. I dont know why I get
involved with these distant people as its just a pain in the ass when things
dont work out first time round. I'm an experienced user of the Netgear 834
having installed more than 60 of them for customers, but I have never
installed one on virgin.net (until now) and I have checked google only to
find that several people are reporting problems with DG834's on Virgin.net,
specifically regarding some versions of firmware.

I would appreciate what your router reports, if you try logging in with
"user name"@virgin.net as the login name. What really threw me off track
was his log-in name was "user name"@virgin.net using his speedtouch 330
modem setup.

Thanks, Steve

Paul Woodsford

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Apr 15, 2007, 3:24:44 PM4/15/07
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"Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Missing out the "adsl." from the username leads to CHAP Authentication
Failure and No connection, althougf the Router Syncs.

The user name for the Dial Up modem is ******@virgin.net, but for Broadband
ADSL it is always, as far as I am aware ******@adsl.virgin.net

Graham

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Apr 15, 2007, 4:15:59 PM4/15/07
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"Paul Woodsford" <paul.wo...@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
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If you look at the settings for the dial-up networking that talks to the
ADSL modem, you will find the username there - this will confirm what other
have said, that the ADSL conection name is of the form
<name>@adsl.virgin.net - many ISPs have a connection username that is
different from the email address.

This information will have been provided in a letter or email from the ISP
when the service was frst set up.

--
Graham J


Steve

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Apr 16, 2007, 6:46:19 PM4/16/07
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"Paul Woodsford" <paul.wo...@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
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> Missing out the "adsl." from the username leads to CHAP Authentication
> Failure and No connection, althougf the Router Syncs.
>
> The user name for the Dial Up modem is ******@virgin.net, but for
Broadband
> ADSL it is always, as far as I am aware ******@adsl.virgin.net
>
>
> --
> Paul Woodsford
> Remove NOSPAM to reply.

Hi again Paul,

I have gone through all the settings this evening, including making sure the
login details/password are as they should be, and still the DG834G fails to
receive an IP address from the virgin server.The Netgear DG834G router in
question is a v3 issue, and is running firmware version 4.01.06.

Do you have any further thoughts on the problem?
Thanks
Steve

Rob S

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Apr 17, 2007, 8:19:59 AM4/17/07
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:46:19 +0100, "Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

-I have gone through all the settings this evening, including making sure the
-login details/password are as they should be, and still the DG834G fails to
-receive an IP address from the virgin server.The Netgear DG834G router in
-question is a v3 issue, and is running firmware version 4.01.06.
-
-Do you have any further thoughts on the problem?

The only thing you can do in this situation is replace bits one by one...

ie. try a different router for starters, then a different adsl cable, different
filter.. not sure if a different (but known working) adsl login name would work
but the BT one may... you can google it....


-Rob
robatwork at mail dot com

Len Packman

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Apr 17, 2007, 10:06:48 AM4/17/07
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Has this already worked with Virgin but has suddenly stopped? This
happens to me occasionally with my ISP (NewNet) and I find it all works
again instantly if I restore a previous backup file of router settings
so I assume it to be a router issue rather than ISP. Do you have a
backup set? (See Maintenance menu -> Backup settings)


Len

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Rob S <robatworkDelet...@mail.com> wrote:

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Paul Woodsford

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Apr 17, 2007, 5:06:49 PM4/17/07
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"Steve" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Hi Steve,
I have the V2 router.
However, have you checked this out:-
http://www.virgin.net/helpme/broadband/Installation/router/index.html

Virgin supply the Netgear DG 834G wireless router and have full setup
instructions.
One other thing, the drivers for the Speedtouch modem have been removed I
trust?
Virgin suggest this to ensure that the connection is then made through the
LAN to the router.
Hope this may help.

rock shock

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Apr 18, 2007, 6:34:58 PM4/18/07
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"Len Packman" <lc...@cam.ac.uk> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Has this already worked with Virgin but has suddenly stopped? This
> happens to me occasionally with my ISP (NewNet) and I find it all works
> again instantly if I restore a previous backup file of router settings
> so I assume it to be a router issue rather than ISP. Do you have a
> backup set? (See Maintenance menu -> Backup settings)
francesc...@mikron.com
giordano...@mikron.com
tomislav...@mikron.com
raffaele...@mikron.com
marco.m...@mikron.com
carmine...@mikron.com
boris.s...@mikron.com
gino.t...@mikron.com
lorenzo....@mikron.com
markus....@mikron.com
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Rob S

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Apr 19, 2007, 9:00:23 AM4/19/07
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Can the OP post back to let us know if our advice has helped at all?

thanks

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