Angry Canal Man

[Simon Jester]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5fhZvH6RW0

Can Pounder or one of the other irrational bigots explain just what the cyclist was supposed to do?
Dismount, sprint past the pedestrians and remount?
And why does there always have to be threats of violence?

[Peter Keller]

Threat of violence is against the rules.

[Simon Jester]

Yes, but, toy boat owners pay Canal Tax so rules don't apply to them.

[Peter Keller]

Oh I see ...

[Simon Jester]

I am sure Mr Angry will tell you he pays fuel duty and why not, those toy boats get about 5MPG, Concorde got 17, making toy boats the worst polluters on the planet.

[TMS320]

Do what drivers always do near pedestrians. Get out and push.

What? They don't...

[Peter Keller]

Wow!
A Boeing 787 gets about 124.

[JNugent]

miles per gallon?

[JNugent]

Do many drivers speed past pedestrians on that narrow tow-path?

[Simon Jester]

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:46:07 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

He's been at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuww7GPtiEk

I wonder what THE RULES say.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/walking/dog-walking-on-our-canals-and-rivers

"Keep your dog on a short lead around busy spots like locks and bridges"

[Simon Jester]

Indeed. I'm sure if that towpath formed part of a Byway Open to All Traffic he would say pedestrians should step aside for cars because 'It is better for the environment' if motor vehicles to do have to keep starting and stopping.

[Simon Jester]

Pasta contains 1.5 million calories per tonne
So a lorry carrying 40 tonnes of pasta contains 60 million calories at 4mpg.
That is 15 million MPG/Calorie
Cycling uses 50Calories per mile.
Therefore cyclists average 300 000 MPG.

[Simon Jester]

> Indeed. I'm sure if that towpath formed part of a Byway Open to All Traffic he would say pedestrians should step aside for cars because 'It is better for the environment' if motor vehicles do not have to keep starting and stopping.

[TMS320]

I don't know. Why do you ask?

[JNugent]

In order to try to make sense of what you posted.

If it can't be done, fair enough.

[Bruce 'Not Glug' Lee]

To demonstrate its utter ignorance of logic.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

[TMS320]

>> keep starting and stopping...

... also, because cars are dangerous pedestrians should keep out of the way.

[TMS320]

There's nothing to stop you reading what I posted. Here are a couple of
clues that might help - I inserted the word "always" and I didn't use
the word "speeding".

[JNugent]

You seem to have forgotten the accusations made by the pedestrian
against cyclists.

He is there on the spot.

I am not.

I assume that you are not on the spot either.

Of the three of us, which is the most likely to have an accurate picture
of the behaviour of cyclists there?

[Peter Keller]

per passenger

[JNugent]

124 miles per gallon per passenger?

That's more like it, I suppose. You wouldn't get that per passenger on a
moped if there were a land route.

[MrCheerful]

canal boat red diesel is far cheaper than road fuel and also supplies
heating and lighting, plus a canal boat can carry loads of passengers
without breaking a sweat.

[Simon Jester]

So you agree toy boat owners are sponging freeloaders, unlike cyclists.

[Bret Cahill]

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5fhZvH6RW0

On the plus side at least motorists can't drive into the canal like they do here in the valley.

[TMS320]

Your responses to me have nothing to do with the reply I sent to SJ.

[JNugent]

I have nothing against canal boats. Long may their users live and prosper.

[JNugent]

On 04/10/2018 12:45, TMS320

> On 28/09/18 20:58, JNugent

>> On 28/09/2018 20:49, TMS320

>>> On 28/09/18 20:06, JNugent

>>>> On 28/09/2018 20:04, TMS320

>>>>> On 28/09/18 12:57, JNugent

>>>>>> On 28/09/2018 00:33, TMS320

>>>>>>> On 25/09/18 17:47, Simon Jester
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5fhZvH6RW0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can Pounder or one of the other irrational bigots explain just what
>>>>>>>> the cyclist was supposed to do? Dismount, sprint past the
>>>>>>>> pedestrians
>>>>>>>> and remount? And why does there always have to be threats of
>>>>>>>> violence?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do what drivers always do near pedestrians. Get out and push.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What? They don't...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do many drivers speed past pedestrians on that narrow tow-path?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know. Why do you ask?
>>>>
>>>> In order to try to make sense of what you posted.
>>>>
>>>> If it can't be done, fair enough.
>>>
>>> There's nothing to stop you reading what I posted. Here are a couple
>>> of clues that might help - I inserted the word "always" and I didn't
>>> use the word "speeding".
>>
>> You seem to have forgotten the accusations made by the pedestrian
>> against cyclists.
>>> He is there on the spot.
>>
>> I am not.
>>
>> I assume that you are not on the spot either.
>>
>> Of the three of us, which is the most likely to have an accurate
>> picture of the behaviour of cyclists there?
>
> Your responses to me have nothing to do with the reply I sent to SJ.

More to the point, your response to mine has nothing to do with the
point I made in a response to one of yours.

Have a look at the attribution list above. It runs like this:

04/10/2018 12:45, TMS320
28/09/18 20:58, JNugent
28/09/2018 20:49, TMS320
28/09/18 20:06, JNugent
28/09/2018 20:04, TMS320
28/09/18 12:57, JNugent
28/09/2018 00:33, TMS320

25/09/18 17:47, Simon Jester

See? From that, it follows that you attempting to hide behind a (poor)
excuse). My reply was to you, replying to me.

Now... back to the canal boat man...

You seem to have forgotten the accusations made by the pedestrian
against cyclists.

He is there on the spot.

I am not.

I assume that you are not on the spot either.

Of the three of us, who is the most likely to have an accurate

picture of the behaviour of cyclists there?

Or is the only possible answer too "difficult" to give?

[TMS320]

On 15/10/18 16:09, JNugent wrote:

Oh, hello. You have a serious problem if you can't come back after a
break and mark all threads read.

> Now... back to the canal boat man...
>
> You seem to have forgotten the accusations made by the pedestrian
> against cyclists.

I haven't forgotten that some people have a large imaginary bee in their
bonnet. And that you can't distinguish between the general and the
particular.

[JNugent]

On 15/10/2018 18:10, TMS320 wrote:

> On 15/10/18 16:09, JNugent wrote:
>
> Oh, hello. You have a serious problem if you can't come back after a
> break and mark all threads read.

What are you talking about (assuming you know)?

Why should I do as you say?

>> Now... back to the canal boat man...
>>
>> You seem to have forgotten the accusations made by the pedestrian
>> against cyclists.
>
> I haven't forgotten that some people have a large imaginary bee in their
> bonnet. And that you can't distinguish between the general and the
> particular.

The man in the video was on the spot. He is in a better position to
judge what is happening than you are.

Well, unless you were the man on th bike, that is.

Were you?

[TMS320]

On 15/10/18 23:51, JNugent wrote:
> On 15/10/2018 18:10, TMS320 wrote:
>> On 15/10/18 16:09, JNugent wrote:
>>
>> Oh, hello. You have a serious problem if you can't come back after a
>> break and mark all threads read.
>
> What are you talking about (assuming you know)?
>
> Why should I do as you say?

Now you think a comment about your behaviour is a command to do something.

>>> Now... back to the canal boat man...
>>>
>>> You seem to have forgotten the accusations made by the pedestrian
>>> against cyclists.
>>
>> I haven't forgotten that some people have a large imaginary bee in
>> their bonnet. And that you can't distinguish between the general and
>> the particular.
>
> The man in the video was on the spot. He is in a better position to
> judge what is happening than you are.
>
> Well, unless you were the man on th bike, that is.
>
> Were you?

It seems you haven't watched the video.

[Simon Jester]

Nugent doesn't need to watch the video.
The prime directive of Nugentworld is 'Cyclists can do no right, motorists can do no wrong'.

[TMS320]

On 16/10/18 20:09, Simon Jester wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 12:08:29 AM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
>> On 15/10/18 23:51, JNugent wrote:
>
>>> The man in the video was on the spot. He is in a better position
>>> to judge what is happening than you are.
>>>
>>> Well, unless you were the man on th bike, that is.
>>>
>>> Were you?
>>
>> It seems you haven't watched the video.
>
> Nugent doesn't need to watch the video.

I think Nugent is the poster that has said on occasion that he/it
doesn't click video links.

> The prime directive of Nugentworld is 'Cyclists can do no right,
> motorists can do no wrong'.

Indeed. Slight correction though. 'Cyclists are always wrong...'

[swldx...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 11:26:17 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

> > Nugent doesn't need to watch the video.
> I think Nugent is the poster that has said on occasion that he/it
> doesn't click video links.

When I used to read his tedious prattlings, he used to feign a lot of things and not clicking links WAS one of them, but then he'd trip himself up by describing the video's contents!

[Simon Jester]

Remembrance day is almost upon us. I am compiling a list of those fallen from this group.

Paul Smee
Died from heart attack induced by cancer

Mike Ellwood, Abbingdon
Look him up in the New Scientist archives

Rolf Mantel
No Idea

David Bunny
A failed Southampton Uni student who said bicycles should be limited to 20mph whilst boasting how he cycled at 30mph to catch a train. Became a London bus driver and boasted how he used his bus as a weapon to punish cyclists who would no let him pull out from a bus stop, apparently cyclists were supposed to read his ‘mind’ and anticipate when he would turn on his right indicator.

Connor Turton
A lorry driver who boasted that he was forced to accept a 50pence/hour pay rise because lorry drivers were indispensable, then got made redundant. Also said that he only let his indicator flash a maximum of 4 times before changing lanes and woe betide any motorists who ignored this warning.

McKev
Another lorry ‘driver’ who lost his one and only shirt by selling his ‘house’ and renting a bedsit because he ‘thought’ he knew how the property market would swing.

Steve Firth
A full time farmer in Hampshire and a full time olive farmer in Italy and a Full time Airline pilot and A full time Air Traffic Controller and a Full Time Motorway Patrol Officer and worked Full Time in the M25 control room. On Saturdays he personally sold his produce in 200 Farmers Markets from Salisbury to St Petersburg.
Complained about cyclists riding the wrong way in one-way streets whilst telling us cyclists should ride in the gutter against the flow of traffic.

Dave the Medway Handyman
Despite digging ditches at sub minimum wage all 18 of Dave’s children went to Eton and then either Harvard or Sorbonne.

Hugh (Huge) Davies
Not a bad chap despite his habit of eating Range Rovers.

Colin Bignel
Resurfaced here a while back.
Complained about people using pseudonyms whilst signing himself Nightjar.


‘J’ Nugent
Told us trains should stop at level crossings until the driver operated a ‘manual device’ with the condition that the ‘manual device’ could not be operated if it would inconvenience a motorist. Which means trains could be delayed for weeks or even years.


Any others?

[swldx...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 6:16:16 PM UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:

> ‘J’ Nugent
> Told us trains should stop at level crossings until the driver operated a ‘manual device’ with the condition that the ‘manual device’ could not be operated if it would inconvenience a motorist. Which means trains could be delayed for weeks or even years.

Also he told us that people in cars NEVER drive along a footpath except to access a house driveway.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/footage-catches-motorists-driving-hull-2088175

[TMS320]

Probably only after having fired off 16 previous posts about how the
cyclist was guilty and then taking a peek to try and get new ideas.

[JNugent]

On 16/10/2018 00:08, TMS320 wrote:

> On 15/10/18 23:51, JNugent wrote:
>> On 15/10/2018 18:10, TMS320 wrote:
>>> On 15/10/18 16:09, JNugent wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, hello. You have a serious problem if you can't come back after a
>>> break and mark all threads read.
>>
>> What are you talking about (assuming you know)?
>>
>> Why should I do as you say?
>
> Now you think a comment about your behaviour is a command to do something.

You seem to have "a thing" about my occasional breaks from usenet, don't
you?

For a start, you appear to believe that you have some rights not to have
certain of your posts answered after a certain number of hours or days
have elapsed.

>>>> Now... back to the canal boat man...
>>>> You seem to have forgotten the accusations made by the pedestrian
>>>> against cyclists.

>>> I haven't forgotten that some people have a large imaginary bee in
>>> their bonnet. And that you can't distinguish between the general and
>>> the particular.

>> The man in the video was on the spot. He is in a better position to
>> judge what is happening than you are.
>> Well, unless you were the man on th bike, that is.
>>
>> Were you?
>
> It seems you haven't watched the video.

I have, though it was a fair while back (more than two weeks, certainly).

[JNugent]

Not always, by any means.

As an example, I was, overtaken (on the correct offside) by a fully
Lycrad-up cyclist on the Amalfi coast road (SS163) early last week.

He did everything perfectly correctly.

We subsequently overtook each other several times serially, according to
road conditions and the varying speed limit. We and other road-users
shared the road as we are all supposed to.

I found it amusing and reflected that in the UK, a cyclist in such a
situation would probably ride in an aggressively confrontational manner,
trying to prevent himself from being overtaken.

[TMS320]

On 18/10/18 18:10, JNugent wrote:
> On 16/10/2018 00:08, TMS320 wrote:
>
>> Now you think a comment about your behaviour is a command to do
>> something.
>
> You seem to have "a thing" about my occasional breaks from usenet, don't
> you?
>
> For a start, you appear to believe that you have some rights not to have
> certain of your posts answered after a certain number of hours or days
> have elapsed.

Don't be so stupid. I have every right to comment on your weird behaviour.

[JNugent]

If you think that my only options are sitting in front of a computer 7/7
or taking a usenet-compatible machine with me wherever I am in the
world, you are seriously weird.

[TMS320]

On 18/10/18 23:56, JNugent wrote:
> On 18/10/2018 21:23, TMS320 wrote:
>> On 18/10/18 18:10, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 16/10/2018 00:08, TMS320 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now you think a comment about your behaviour is a command to do
>>>> something.
>>>
>>> You seem to have "a thing" about my occasional breaks from usenet,
>>> don't you?
>>>
>>> For a start, you appear to believe that you have some rights not to
>>> have certain of your posts answered after a certain number of hours
>>> or days have elapsed.
>>
>> Don't be so stupid. I have every right to comment on your weird
>> behaviour.
>
> If you think

I have written what I think. Nowhere have I suggested this -

> that my only options are sitting in front of a computer 7/7
> or taking a usenet-compatible machine with me wherever I am in the
> world, you are seriously weird.

Weird of you to think so.