All My Details (0118 947 0948)
justzisguy
Hash: SHA1
I thought I'd provide all my private details here, where they're easy
to find for anyone who may want to contact me. All of this can (or
could) be found publicly online anyway, but hey, no harm in making it
easier. Cheers!
MY PRIVATE DETAILS
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Full name: Guy Andre Chapman
Company: Dell
Date of birth: 26 January 1964
Place of birth: Welwyn Garden City
Postal address: 9 Wetherby Close, Emmer Green, Reading RG4 8UD
Telephone number: 0118 947 0948
Name of wife: Felicity Chapman
Name of older son: Michael Chapman
Date of birth range for older son: between 6 August 1993 and 5 August 1994
Name of younger son: Peter Chapman
Name of dead sister: Laura Chapman
Name of dead father: George Strait Chapman
Should have informed the DVLA of: the fact that I am driving on
dosulepin (an anti-depressant), the fact that I am driving with a left
hand which moves slowly
Church attended: Saint Barnabas of Emmer Green
I look foward to hearing from you!
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The Todal
<Just zis Guy>; "you know?" <g...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I thought I'd provide all my private details here,
Guy, you evidently have a stalker who so dislikes your views that he/she
hopes to scare you away from usenet altogether. What a vile person it must
be.
Mr. Benn
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Idiot.
I may dislike Guy Chapman but I certainly wouldn't publish public
information about him and his family. Whoever you are, you're well out of
line.
Mentalguy2k8
"Mr. Benn" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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There are some real fucking idiots on Usenet.
Mr. Benn
news:j1bqdu$usd$1...@dont-email.me...
There certainly are. Publishing information about someone's family is just
plain sick. Guy's family have nothing to do with his opinions on usenet.
Andy Leighton
I think we all have a very good idea of who it is and you are quite
right in your summation.
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- Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_
Mentalguy2k8
"Mr. Benn" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
I couldn't agree more.
And they wonder why so many people use pseudonyms.
Terry
Pathetic cunt
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People won't be too surprised to hear that this
*identical* signature (think about it)
appeared on a less foul post by Guy earlier.
BugBear
JNugent
Or a forgery?
It it's real, it's unwise.
Just zis Guy, you know?
Hash: SHA1
This is a response to the Zen abuse team having contacted them today. It
will not exactly do them any favours in that department.
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Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
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Dave - Cyclists VOR
Whilst I think "Just ziz Twat, you know" is a complete bell end I'd
agree with that. Way OTT.
--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University
Tony Dragon
I also wonder how many of those things are true, I have my doubts.
Abo
> Full name: Guy Andre Chapman
No mobile?
Mr. Benn
news:j1bnvg$drq$5...@dont-email.me...
<snipped>
Let's see if we can track down who posted this. Relevant info from the
message header:
posting-host="SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw";
posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+FeRRciKhmRqZGZQ1epdaVB249QoWHD3w="
User-Agent: Unison/2.1.5
The posting host is an encrypted IP address and the posting account is also
encrypted. Who else who posts here has
posting-host="SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw" or
posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+FeRRciKhmRqZGZQ1epdaVB249QoWHD3w=" in their
message headers?
Another clue is the newsreader used: User-Agent: Unison/2.1.5. Who else
uses Unison 2.1.5? It's an Apple Mac newsreader.
I don't have time at the moment to go through recent headers from other
people using usenet but there is a moderate chance that the culprit can be
identified if someone can take the time to investigate.
Just zis Guy, you know?
Hash: SHA1
The posting account will be a throwaway, it's Eternal September,
registration is free.
Frankly I don't think there's any doubt. Nuxx is a Mac user and has
today received an - ahem - unwelcome communication from his ISP. There's
other information as well but now's not the time for sharing that.
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Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
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Zapp Brannigan
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> I thought I'd provide all my private details here, where they're easy
> to find for anyone who may want to contact me.
Completely out of order.
Mentalguy2k8
"Mr. Benn" <invalid...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Another clue is the newsreader used: User-Agent: Unison/2.1.5. Who else
> uses Unison 2.1.5? It's an Apple Mac newsreader.
Which would explain a lot
Mr. Benn
===============================
In isolation the newsreader doesn't explain anything but in combination with
the encrypted IP address and posting account, it could go some way to
identifying the culprit.
Mentalguy2k8
Hope so, I'm suspicious of anyone who uses a Mac anyway.
Ret.
Does the 'organisation' part of the header help? :
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Recent posts from Steve Filth:
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
I'm no expert on interpreting post headers so this may have no significance
at all...
--
Kev
Mentalguy2k8
"Ret." <kev...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Mine is the same... I think it's specific to the eternal-september usenet
service.
From some of the replies, it seems to be connected with some long-running
feud in the cycling group. Not sure why it was crossposted to the legal one
though.
Ret.
Does the 'organisation' part of the header help? :
From the header of the original post above:
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Recent posts from Steve Filth:
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
I'm no expert on interpreting post headers so this may have no significance
at all...
--
Kev
Jake
That's an indication that, unless someone took the time and effort to insert
that into the organisation field of another newsreader, matching the
capitalisation, the user is posting through Eternal September...
Mr. Benn
Mr. Benn wrote:
> "Just zis Guy"; "you know?" wrote in message
> news:j1bnvg$drq$5...@dont-email.me...
>
> <snipped>
>
> Let's see if we can track down who posted this. Relevant info from
> the message header:
>
> posting-host="SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw";
> posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+FeRRciKhmRqZGZQ1epdaVB249QoWHD3w="
> User-Agent: Unison/2.1.5
>
> The posting host is an encrypted IP address and the posting account
> is also encrypted. Who else who posts here has
> posting-host="SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw" or
> posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+FeRRciKhmRqZGZQ1epdaVB249QoWHD3w=" in
> their message headers?
>
> Another clue is the newsreader used: User-Agent: Unison/2.1.5. Who
> else uses Unison 2.1.5? It's an Apple Mac newsreader.
>
> I don't have time at the moment to go through recent headers from
> other people using usenet but there is a moderate chance that the
> culprit can be identified if someone can take the time to investigate.
Does the 'organisation' part of the header help? :
From the header of the original post above:
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
=========================================
No Kev, "Organization: A noiseless patient Spiderder" is the default field
for anyone posting using the eternal-september usenet server. I don't think
Filth was responsible for this one.
Mentalguy2k8
You'd have to assume that this has been bubbling for a fair while, I've
hardly seen the "victim" in uk.legal and don't recall any bad words with
anyone. I expect the cycling guys have a better picture of who it was and
what caused it.
Mr. Benn
> Does the 'organisation' part of the header help? :
>
> From the header of the original post above:
>
> Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
> =========================================
>
> No Kev, "Organization: A noiseless patient Spiderder" is the default field
> for anyone posting using the eternal-september usenet server. I don't
> think Filth was responsible for this one.
You'd have to assume that this has been bubbling for a fair while, I've
hardly seen the "victim" in uk.legal and don't recall any bad words with
anyone. I expect the cycling guys have a better picture of who it was and
what caused it.
=======================================================
It has been bubbling on for quite some time. There is at least one obvious
suspect in uk.rec.cycling but I am not convinced it is him. Having had a
look at the recent and not so recent posting headers of the obvious
suspects, I cannot find anything that connects them to the rogue poster. It
may never be known who was responsible unless a police investigation is
involved or someone else with better skills than myself (not difficult to
find someone who fits that description) can investigate.
Ret.
OK.
--
Kev
GB
> It has been bubbling on for quite some time. There is at least one
> obvious suspect in uk.rec.cycling but I am not convinced it is him. Having
> had a look at the recent and not so recent posting headers of
> the obvious suspects, I cannot find anything that connects them to
> the rogue poster. It may never be known who was responsible unless a
> police investigation is involved or someone else with better skills
> than myself (not difficult to find someone who fits that description)
> can investigate.
Police investigation!? Is this harrassment? It's not obvious. A lot of
people have their contact details on the internet. I'll wait to be put
right.
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Simon Mason
"Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> You'd have to assume that this has been bubbling for a fair while, I've
> hardly seen the "victim" in uk.legal and don't recall any bad words with
> anyone. I expect the cycling guys have a better picture of who it was and
> what caused it.
The person stalking Mr Chapman has been at it for many years in urc.
I have witnessed it all from the beginning and it started long before "JMS
Judith's" appearance.
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Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/
Mr. Benn
news:pu6dneMXXPdnx6fT...@eclipse.net.uk...
He certainly seems overly obsessed with Chapman. Unhealthily so.
Paul - xxx
> On 03/08/2011 16:03, Just zis Guy wrote:
> > I look foward to hearing from you!
>
>
> Pathetic cunt
Well re-posted ...
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Paul - xxx
Nuxx Bar
Sorry, nothing to do with me. Although using Eternal September is a
good idea for a variety of reasons.
I should point out at this juncture that there are lots and lots of
people who hate Guy Chapman (with good reason), and not just on Usenet.
Here, for example, we have a whole forum on a site called Wikipedia
Review which is solely dedicated to how unreasonable Chapman continually
is on Wikipedia:
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showforum=44
Then of course there's this (note the "usenet asshole" bit):
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/JzG
One of the editors of that page, "ParalelUni", has said things about
Chapman that even I would shy away from. And there are many other
places where people express their great dislike of Chapman. But
regardless, the idea that one can ascertain that the post is anyone in
particular simply from the content and the headers is absurd. Chapman
simply has too many long-term, bitter enemies, to a far greater extent
than anyone else here.
(I know that Chapman the Helmet-Wearer will see this post, because he
must be lying about having me "killfiled". After all, he has been
crowing about having complained to my ISP, and how would he know what to
complain about unless he'd read my posts? As frequently stated, for
someone who is so often economical with the truth, he's not very good at
it!)
Just zis Guy, you know?
Hash: SHA1
Subject line, Paul...
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Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
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Nuxx Bar
> On 04/08/2011 11:40, Paul - xxx wrote:
>> Terry wrote:
>
>>> On 03/08/2011 16:03, Just zis Guy wrote:
>>>> I look foward to hearing from you!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pathetic cunt
>
>> Well re-posted ...
>
> Subject line, Paul...
LOL! You don't think it might be a little bit late for that?
Nuxx Bar
> Mr. Benn wrote:
>> It has been bubbling on for quite some time. There is at least one
>> obvious suspect in uk.rec.cycling but I am not convinced it is him. Having
>> had a look at the recent and not so recent posting headers of
>> the obvious suspects, I cannot find anything that connects them to
>> the rogue poster. It may never be known who was responsible unless a
>> police investigation is involved or someone else with better skills
>> than myself (not difficult to find someone who fits that description)
>> can investigate.
>
> Police investigation!? Is this harrassment? It's not obvious. A lot of
> people have their contact details on the internet. I'll wait to be put
> right.
Sssh! Chapman's had me under investigation for several years, but it's
a secret (you know, one of those secrets which he wants everyone to
know)! I'm going to get a knock on the door any minute, I just know it.
It doesn't matter that I've committed no crimes, I've dared to oppose
Chapman, and that's quite bad enough.
Getting back to the real world, I didn't post the OP, but I agree with
you that simply posting that information is neither criminal nor
harassment, especially since (AFAICT) all that information is already
available somewhere online (Google will confirm this). It's just a
rather pathetic effort on behalf of one or more of the "cycling lot" to
give someone (probably me) a bad name.
(By "cycling lot" I mean the anti-motorist bunch on URC, not cyclists in
general, most of whom are actually reasonable and decent human beings,
despite being given a bad reputation by the belligerent, law-breaking
minority of cyclists.)
Nuxx Bar
This wasn't me. And those who have been around for a while will know
that I don't deny making posts unless I really haven't made them.
GB
> (By "cycling lot" I mean the anti-motorist bunch on URC, not cyclists
> in general, most of whom are actually reasonable and decent human
> beings, despite being given a bad reputation by the belligerent,
> law-breaking minority of cyclists.)
Doug? Where's Doug when you need someone to blame?
Mentalguy2k8
"GB" <NOTso...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4e3ada90$0$2524$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk...
> Nuxx Bar wrote:
>
>> (By "cycling lot" I mean the anti-motorist bunch on URC, not cyclists
>> in general, most of whom are actually reasonable and decent human
>> beings, despite being given a bad reputation by the belligerent,
>> law-breaking minority of cyclists.)
>
> Doug? Where's Doug when you need someone to blame?
Doug's too stupid, he would have complained that Google Groups wouldn't let
him post a long list of someone's private details.
Just zis Guy, you know?
Hash: SHA1
On 04/08/2011 02:56, GB wrote:
> Police investigation!? Is this harrassment? It's not obvious. A lot
> of people have their contact details on the internet. I'll wait to be
> put right.
Taken as a whole with the nuisance calls and the course of conduct over
several years in multiple venues then I would say so, but you'd expect
me to say that. One interesting point will be to see if the persona Nuxx
Bar posts again from 82.71.49.124 - this is the address Zen have
assigned him for the last year and a bit, they (like Demon) assign
static or reserved addresses.
Obviously he denies this, if you still have
<Message-ID:e5333d96-7017-438c...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
on your spool you can get a feel for how credible such denials might be.
I'm happy to share some evidence privately with a trusted and discreet
third party (Pedt or The Todal, for example) if they are up for
verifying that what I say is at the very least a valid interpretation of
the data in my hands right now.
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Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed
to be worth at least what you paid for them.
PGP public key at http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/pgp-public.key
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Amanda Fennel
"Mr. Benn" wrote in message news:j1c7ic$qa2$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>I don't have time at the moment to go through recent headers from other
>people using usenet but there is a moderate chance that the culprit can be
>identified if someone can take the time to investigate.
Careful.
In this nanny-state we now live, you're probably bordering on breaching
his/her "human rights".
Ray Banana
>>> Let's see if we can track down who posted this. Relevant info from
>>> the message header:
>>
>>> posting-host="SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw";
>>> posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+FeRRciKhmRqZGZQ1epdaVB249QoWHD3w="
[...]
> Sorry, nothing to do with me. Although using Eternal September is a
> good idea for a variety of reasons.
You should, however, keep in mind that the Eternal-September posting-host
information, albeit encrypted, is always the same for the same IP address,
whereas
the posting-account hash for the same account name will vary with every
post.
--
Too many ingredients in the soup, no room for a spoon.
Mike Lovell
>> good idea for a variety of reasons.
>
> You should, however, keep in mind that the Eternal-September posting-host
> information, albeit encrypted, is always the same for the same IP address,
> whereas
> the posting-account hash for the same account name will vary with every
> post.
>
Surely this is just a matter of a complaint to Eternal-September? They
do provide all the relevant links for abuse.
I only find 1 match on that hash, which is the message in question:
$ grep "SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw" * | grep "Injection"
696:Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
posting-host="SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw";
But I only go back ~500 posts. Of course, with dynamic IP's being the
norm that field is not going to be much help to anyone outside their
NNTP provider - Unless they were stupid enough to post multiple times
(some in their usual identity) without getting a new IP.
~ Mike
Just zis Guy, you know?
Hash: SHA1
I think Ray might be able to find someone at Eternal September, if he
tries very hard ;-)
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> On 04/08/2011 11:40, Paul - xxx wrote:
> > Terry wrote:
> >
> >> On 03/08/2011 16:03, Just zis Guy wrote:
> >>> I look foward to hearing from you!
> >>
> >>
> >> Pathetic cunt
> >
> > Well re-posted ...
>
> Subject line, Paul...
Bollocks, hoist by my own ....
--
Paul - xxx
Just zis Guy, you know?
Hash: SHA1
You're not the only one, don't worry.
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Mr. Benn
===============================================
I have no evidence to suggest you were responsible. And unless Guy Chapman
has concrete evidence that you were responsible, he owes you an apology for
claiming that you were.
I kept an open mind yesterday about who was the culprit. I still don't know
who was responsible and I had suspicions, but suspicions alone are not
enough.
Despite that, whoever published Mr. Chapman's personal details should feel
ashamed of themselves. As much as I disagree with Mr. Chapman, he has as
much right to express his opinions on usenet as anyone else.
Ding Dong
> On 04/08/2011 20:09, Mike Lovell wrote:
>>>> Sorry, nothing to do with me. Although using Eternal September
>>>> is a good idea for a variety of reasons.
>>>
>>> You should, however, keep in mind that the Eternal-September
>>> posting-host information, albeit encrypted, is always the same for
>>> the same IP address, whereas the posting-account hash for the same
>>> account name will vary with every post.
>>>
>
>> Surely this is just a matter of a complaint to Eternal-September?
>> They do provide all the relevant links for abuse.
>
>> I only find 1 match on that hash, which is the message in question:
>
>
>> $ grep "SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw" * | grep "Injection"
>
>> 696:Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
>> posting-host="SmbcDKMoSAzi+iXXYmXaNw";
>
>
>> But I only go back ~500 posts. Of course, with dynamic IP's being
>> the norm that field is not going to be much help to anyone outside
>> their NNTP provider - Unless they were stupid enough to post multiple
>> times (some in their usual identity) without getting a new IP.
>
>> ~ Mike
>
> I think Ray might be able to find someone at Eternal September, if he
> tries very hard ;-)
I wonder how he found this thread in the first place? The phrase
"serial complainer" was invented for the likes of you, wasn't it? But
the trouble with being a serial complainer (about others at any rate) is
that one almost inevitably comes unstuck eventually.
Judith
<g...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
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>On 04/08/2011 02:56, GB wrote:
>
>> Police investigation!? Is this harrassment? It's not obvious. A lot
>> of people have their contact details on the internet. I'll wait to be
>> put right.
>
>Taken as a whole with the nuisance calls and the course of conduct over
>several years in multiple venues then I would say so, but you'd expect
>me to say that. One interesting point will be to see if the persona Nuxx
>Bar posts again from 82.71.49.124 - this is the address Zen have
>assigned him for the last year and a bit, they (like Demon) assign
>static or reserved addresses.
>
>Obviously he denies this, if you still have
><Message-ID:e5333d96-7017-438c...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
>on your spool you can get a feel for how credible such denials might be.
>
>I'm happy to share some evidence privately with a trusted and discreet
>third party (Pedt or The Todal, for example) if they are up for
>verifying that what I say is at the very least a valid interpretation of
>the data in my hands right now.
Ask me - I'll do it. I am trusted and discreet.
Perhaps I could share with them the Lou Knee details and see if they conclude
what a lying arse you are.
Judith
<snip>
>I should point out at this juncture that there are lots and lots of
>people who hate Guy Chapman (with good reason), and not just on Usenet.
> Here, for example, we have a whole forum on a site called Wikipedia
>Review which is solely dedicated to how unreasonable Chapman continually
>is on Wikipedia:
>
>http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showforum=44
Excellent - thanks for the link
I really thought that I was in a minority in despising Porky as much as I do. I
can honestly say that I have never disliked/despised anyone - in real life, or
on usenet - as much as I do him.
However, I can clearly see that I am not alone. Here are some sample comments
from other people from the linked pages:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JzG's actions do not stand up to scrutiny.
..........brought it up with JzG whose response is predictably obtuse.
It's his usual lies. But he often gets away with it.
JzG responded, with the most dense, POV-pushing personal attack I've seen in a
long time from him. I'm not sure he's actually lying, because he may believe
what he thinks.
He depends on people to not check anything out, or to only look very
superficially.
JzG has a seriously self-serving memory of What Happened.
Here's another reason to remove JzG's bit, the guy's a vandal.
He is either a vandal or incompetent
JzG does this sort of thing a lot, delete articles for reasons only known to
himself and give reasons that have no correlation with reality and don't stand
up to scrutiny.
I hope you're not defending Guy. He's really, profoundly not worth it.
His belief in himself rises above all possible density, it is what makes pigs
fly.
JzG's a cunt, I suggest you tell him so on his talk page and stop whining here.
JzG also still refuses to admit that he was wrong
Has he ever admitted anything
Guy isn't ever one to admit he may have been wrong
JzG defrucked himself in November. What were the circumstances for this borish,
inane, off-target goofball to be allowed to slink out the back door quietly
instead of being held accountable for his years of loose canonry? Some pitiful
personal drama that everyone is supposed to tolerate?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Total number of posts to URC from
IP Address:80.254.146.36 over 6 years = 7
Guy Chapman : 5
Lou Knee: 2
Coincidence?
(Guy Chapman Dell Magnet)
Ding Dong
> On 04/08/2011 21:03, Paul - xxx wrote:
>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> On 04/08/2011 11:40, Paul - xxx wrote:
>>>> Terry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/08/2011 16:03, Just zis Guy wrote:
>>>>>> I look foward to hearing from you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pathetic cunt
>>>>
>>>> Well re-posted ...
>>>
>>> Subject line, Paul...
>
>> Bollocks, hoist by my own ....
>
> You're not the only one, don't worry.
Everyone, hang your heads in shame. Guy's very disappointed in you.
Why can't you all be thought leaders in IT like him?
Ding Dong
> On 04/08/2011 02:56, GB wrote:
>
>> Police investigation!? Is this harrassment? It's not obvious. A lot
>> of people have their contact details on the internet. I'll wait to be
>> put right.
>
> Taken as a whole with the nuisance calls
...which you have no proof of anyone in particular making, if they even
happened at all.
> and the course of conduct over
> several years in multiple venues
Fancy Chapman trying to "embellish" the truth to suit his agenda. You
wouldn't credit it would you?
> I'm happy to share some evidence privately with a trusted and discreet
> third party (Pedt or The Todal, for example) if they are up for
> verifying that what I say is at the very least a valid interpretation of
> the data in my hands right now.
The trouble is that when one is an inveterate liar who is as slippery,
slimy and deceitful as it is possible to be, then making implications
like the above means absolutely nothing. You are infamous for implying
things which are categorically not the case and hoping that people will
fall for it. If you had any real information then you would be quite
happy to release it in public. You are just trying to scare some people
and get sympathy from others.
You have nothing.
Ding Dong
> "Nuxx Bar" wrote in message news:j1e91p$ea8$2...@dont-email.me...
>
> On 03/08/2011 16:03, Just zis Guy wrote:
>> I thought I'd provide all my private details here
>
> This wasn't me. And those who have been around for a while will know
> that I don't deny making posts unless I really haven't made them.
> ===============================================
>
> I have no evidence to suggest you were responsible. And unless Guy
> Chapman has concrete evidence that you were responsible, he owes you an
> apology for claiming that you were.
You are joking of course. He will never, ever, ever do the decent thing
unless there's something in it for him and it won't involve him losing
any face. No doubt that kind of arrogance, and point blank refusal to
accept blame or concede any kind of point, is what has made you (and
countless others) killfile him.
> I kept an open mind yesterday about who was the culprit. I still don't
> know who was responsible and I had suspicions, but suspicions alone are
> not enough.
Ah yes: a fair hearing, innocent until proven guilty...great and ancient
English principles which any civilised and reasonable person would want
to uphold. But then we are talking about Chapman, and we know that he
is quite happy to disregard such principles whenever it's convenient to
him (this is one example, the "nuisance calls" is another, and then
there's the fact that according to him and the other car-haters, any
driver who is in court accused of speeding is automatically guilty from
the off).
> Despite that, whoever published Mr. Chapman's personal details should
> feel ashamed of themselves. As much as I disagree with Mr. Chapman, he
> has as much right to express his opinions on usenet as anyone else.
Possibly, but it's hard to feel too sorry for him frankly.
Unfortunately his behaviour is not limited to simply expressing his
opinions, and he has a track record of doing all sorts of unpleasant
things in order to stop other people from expressing their opinions.
The OP may be "wrong", but if anyone does deserve that treatment then
it's someone like Chapman (not that many people, thankfully, are like
him). And if it's true that all those details were already available
online then anyone who was serious about misusing them somehow would
have done so already. (Oh, sorry, they have: the "nuisance calls",
which is another one of those things that Chapman supposedly has
"evidence" for, but for some reason he won't make that "evidence"
public. I'd love to know what the "evidence" is: sound files that he
has cobbled together himself? The mind boggles. But whatever it is
it's going to be *far* from conclusive.)
Judith
<snip>
>
>It was bad form all round. I thought it was JMS simply because I could
>think of nobody else that would be such a cunt.
It was not from me.
I thought I would just wait to see which fuckwit made the accusation before I
commented
It appears to have been posted from Reading Library - looks like it was one of
Porky's brats to me.
All we need to know now is why Porky complained to Zen *before* that post was
made.
I can see it now at tea time:
Porky : "I am getting really fed up of people accusing me of wearing a cycle
helmet. I am going to complain to Zen about them"
First Chapman Brat : "Go for it Dad - you show them. I bet they have forgotten
that you are a thought leader"
Second Brat to First : "<Snigger> - shall we go down the library"
Peter Keller
>
>
> Excellent - thanks for the link
>
> I really thought that I was in a minority in despising Porky as much as
> I do. I can honestly say that I have never disliked/despised anyone -
> in real life, or on usenet - as much as I do him.
Vampyroteuthis infernalis, the vampire squid from hell, is a cephalopod
that lives in the oxygen minimum layer (600-800 m depth) throughout the
world's temperate and tropical oceans. V. infernalis is the only
cephalopod that lives its entire life cycle in the core of the oxygen
minimum layer (OML).
<snip>
> --
<snip>
--
If you are riding a bicycle you are winning.
bugbear
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:56:09 +0200, Tosspot<Frank...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>
>> It was bad form all round. I thought it was JMS simply because I could
>> think of nobody else that would be such a cunt.
>
>
>
> It was not from me.
> I thought I would just wait to see which fuckwit made the accusation before I
> commented
That wasn't an accusation. It was statement of opinion.
Read it carefully. He doesnt't assert that was you;
you says he could think of nobody else that would be such a cunt.
BugBear
Ding Dong
>
> I really thought that I was in a minority in despising Porky as much as I do. I
> can honestly say that I have never disliked/despised anyone - in real life, or
> on usenet - as much as I do him.
Same here.
> However, I can clearly see that I am not alone. Here are some sample comments
> from other people from the linked pages:
Thanks for compiling those. Some of them are very familiar-seeming,
aren't they? In fact, most of them are. Clearly we're not the only
ones who think them by a long way.
These resonated particularly:
> It's his usual lies. But he often gets away with it.
He does seem to get away with "murder" in Wikipedia, and we know how
much he lies.
> JzG responded, with the most dense, POV-pushing personal attack I've seen in a
> long time from him. I'm not sure he's actually lying, because he may believe
> what he thinks.
Could so easily have been written here.
> He depends on people to not check anything out, or to only look very
> superficially.
ABSOLUTELY. He deceives in that way again and again and again. Lou
Knee anyone? Or indeed his accusations on this thread?
> His belief in himself rises above all possible density, it is what makes pigs
> fly.
Another reason to call him "Porky"....
> JzG's a cunt, I suggest you tell him so on his talk page and stop whining here.
He certainly doesn't like people editing his talk page.... ;-)
> JzG also still refuses to admit that he was wrong
YES. Always.
> Has he ever admitted anything
NO. Never.
> Guy isn't ever one to admit he may have been wrong
And again. He's the same everywhere it seems.
> JzG defrucked himself in November. What were the circumstances for this borish,
> inane, off-target goofball to be allowed to slink out the back door quietly
> instead of being held accountable for his years of loose canonry? Some pitiful
> personal drama that everyone is supposed to tolerate?
And yet now he's back as an admin and is *still* allowed to spread his
lies and hate, despite being such an arrogant dick and getting so many
people's backs up. The only consolation is that one day, he'll go so
far that even Wikipedia's "Arbitration Committee" won't be able to just
slap him on the wrist like they always have until now. Eventually he'll
be desysopped for good, and that will be a wonderful day for reason and
honesty on the Internet.
Ding Dong
And if you read Judith's post carefully then you'll notice that she
doesn't say that Tosspot was the one who accused her.
If you're going to be all condescending then at least make sure that
you're not wrong yourself.
bugbear
I was making allowances for Judith's imprecision out of kindness.
The implication was clear enough.
If we all went around deliberately
misunderstanding each other, either for comic or rhetorical
effect, sensible discussion would become impossible.
BugBear
Judith
wrote:
<snip>
>If we all went around deliberately
>misunderstanding each other, either for comic or rhetorical
>effect, sensible discussion would become impossible.
>
> BugBear
"sensible discussion would become impossible" - to achieve that, just continue
as you are.
Judith
<g...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>On 04/08/2011 02:56, GB wrote:
>
>> Police investigation!? Is this harrassment? It's not obvious. A lot
>> of people have their contact details on the internet. I'll wait to be
>> put right.
>
>Taken as a whole with the nuisance calls and the course of conduct over
>several years in multiple venues then I would say so, but you'd expect
>me to say that. One interesting point will be to see if the persona Nuxx
>Bar posts again from 82.71.49.124 - this is the address Zen have
>assigned him for the last year and a bit, they (like Demon) assign
>static or reserved addresses.
>
>Obviously he denies this, if you still have
><Message-ID:e5333d96-7017-438c...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
>on your spool you can get a feel for how credible such denials might be.
>
>I'm happy to share some evidence privately with a trusted and discreet
>third party (Pedt or The Todal, for example) if they are up for
>verifying that what I say is at the very least a valid interpretation of
>the data in my hands right now.
You comments above remind me of the Lou Knee discussion.
Perhaps you could share with a couple of people how you and Lou happened to
post from the same IP address - and then you came to deny that it was you.