trump has a fine sense of humour

[abelard]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-refuses-to-endorse-paul-ryan-in-gop-primary-im-just-not-quite-there-yet/2016/08/02/1449f028-58e9-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
"Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is refusing to back
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his upcoming primary election, saying in
an interview Tuesday that he is “not quite there yet” in endorsing his
party’s top-ranking elected official."



note
for those who don't keep up with the games in the usa...
this is a reflection of ryan's dipping and diving over support
for trump







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[Mitchell Holman]

abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
news:8372qb18r5qv95vhl...@4ax.com:

>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-refuses-to-endorse-paul-r
> yan-in-gop-primary-im-just-not-quite-there-yet/2016/08/02/1449f028-58e9

> -11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html "Republican presidential nominee
> Donald Trump is refusing to back House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his
> upcoming primary election, saying in an interview Tuesday that he is
> “not quite there yet” in endorsing his party’s top-ranking elected
> official."
>
>

Since Ryan is guaranteed to win reelection it is
just stupid for a Republican to refuse to endorse him.

I have never seen a politician go so far out of
his way to make enemies as Trump. Well, except for
Ted Cruz, that is..........

[PaxPerPoten]

On 8/2/2016 8:42 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
> news:8372qb18r5qv95vhl...@4ax.com:
>
>>
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-refuses-to-endorse-paul-r
>> yan-in-gop-primary-im-just-not-quite-there-yet/2016/08/02/1449f028-58e9
>> -11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html "Republican presidential nominee
>> Donald Trump is refusing to back House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his
>> upcoming primary election, saying in an interview Tuesday that he is
>> “not quite there yet” in endorsing his party’s top-ranking elected
>> official."
>>
>>
>
> Since Ryan is guaranteed to win reelection it is
> just stupid for a Republican to refuse to endorse him.

It appears that Ryan has some very tough competition.

>
> I have never seen a politician go so far out of
> his way to make enemies as Trump. Well, except for
> Ted Cruz, that is..........
>
>
>
>
>
>

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ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster

[abelard]

On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 20:42:55 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<noe...@comcast.net> wrote:

>abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>news:8372qb18r5qv95vhl...@4ax.com:
>
>>
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-refuses-to-endorse-paul-r
>> yan-in-gop-primary-im-just-not-quite-there-yet/2016/08/02/1449f028-58e9
>> -11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html "Republican presidential nominee
>> Donald Trump is refusing to back House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his
>> upcoming primary election, saying in an interview Tuesday that he is
>> “not quite there yet” in endorsing his party’s top-ranking elected
>> official."
>>
>>
>
> Since Ryan is guaranteed to win reelection it is
>just stupid for a Republican to refuse to endorse him.

i don't think trump can see the funny side of life without
plunging right it...

in a world of egos and lefties without a sense of humour
that becomes a strange 'strategy'

if there are enough idiots, hi-liary is bound to 'win'

what that will do for the usa, god alone knows

> I have never seen a politician go so far out of
>his way to make enemies as Trump. Well, except for
>Ted Cruz, that is..........

he's not trying to make enemies...he just doesn't seem
to care...

he isn't dependent on pandering to the idiots...the rest of
them mostly are...


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[abelard]

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 21:43:25 -0500, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:

>On 8/2/2016 8:42 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> abelard <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in
>> news:8372qb18r5qv95vhl...@4ax.com:

>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-refuses-to-endorse-paul-r
>>> yan-in-gop-primary-im-just-not-quite-there-yet/2016/08/02/1449f028-58e9
>>> -11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html "Republican presidential nominee
>>> Donald Trump is refusing to back House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his
>>> upcoming primary election, saying in an interview Tuesday that he is
>>> “not quite there yet” in endorsing his party’s top-ranking elected
>>> official."

>> Since Ryan is guaranteed to win reelection it is
>> just stupid for a Republican to refuse to endorse him.
>
>It appears that Ryan has some very tough competition.

he's a bright fellow but he seems to have out-smarted himself...

>> I have never seen a politician go so far out of
>> his way to make enemies as Trump. Well, except for
>> Ted Cruz, that is..........

>It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
>the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
>ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
>be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster

The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every
class is unfit to govern. [1881]...acton...


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[Mr. B1ack]

On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 00:24:21 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>
wrote:

Yes, it's a little tit-for-tat ... Ryans very iffy support of Trump
even after his big confirmation has led Trump to be very
iffy about Ryan.

But it'll all get straightned-out over the next month or so -
the prospect of doing Hillary any favors will ensure it.

[abelard]

On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 22:05:04 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
wrote:

trump is of course very much brighter than hi-liary and is
therefore trying to communicate with the idiocracy on
a level that is often beyond them....

whereas hi-liary is a natural as she speaks their language...

it's a toss-up whether there are enough voters who are
not complete idiots to win trump the election...

further, hi-liary cares dreadfully for power, whereas for trump
power is his habitual experience...so my impression is that
he really doesn't care whether he is president or not...


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[Frank]

The complaining about Trump's not endorsing Ryan and McCain in their
primary's is just plain stupid. Maybe Trump should have said that the
primary's are the domain of the states electorate and he would support
their choice of Republican candidates.

The crap the lib press is throwing at Trump is a smoke screen to hide
the disaster they support for president.

[abelard]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 07:42:56 -0400, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:

>On 8/2/2016 6:24 PM, abelard wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-refuses-to-endorse-paul-ryan-in-gop-primary-im-just-not-quite-there-yet/2016/08/02/1449f028-58e9-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
>> "Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is refusing to back
>> House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his upcoming primary election, saying in
>> an interview Tuesday that he is “not quite there yet” in endorsing his
>> party’s top-ranking elected official."
>>
>>
>>
>> note
>> for those who don't keep up with the games in the usa...
>> this is a reflection of ryan's dipping and diving over support
>> for trump
>
>The complaining about Trump's not endorsing Ryan and McCain in their
>primary's is just plain stupid.

i don't think he can resist needling idiots!

> Maybe Trump should have said that the
>primary's are the domain of the states electorate and he would support
>their choice of Republican candidates.
>
>The crap the lib press is throwing at Trump is a smoke screen to hide
>the disaster they support for president.

will the smoke clear?


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[Frank]

No. The whole Dem strategy will remain ad hominem attacks on Trump.

"Crooked" Hillary cannot run on her dismal record or Obama's and will
continue to hammer on Trump as being un-presidential.

[abelard]

doubtless...

but by the smoke clearing, i meant, will the electorate tend
to see through their dishonesty

>"Crooked" Hillary cannot run on her dismal record or Obama's and will
>continue to hammer on Trump as being un-presidential.
>

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[Frank]

I hope so but recall that the world thought we were stupid electing
Obama and we proved them correct by doing it a second time.

[abelard]

nobody can argue with that...

maybe crooked hi-liary will be an improvement on
a racist, marxist, moslem...or whatever he is this week!


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[Beam Me Up Scotty]

anything but Hillary, Pelosi or Reid... would have been an improvement


Gay Trans or otherwise delusional.

--
That's Karma ;)






*Rumination*
#100.0.3 - The common theme in Liberalism is that they always want to
change reality to fit their feelings.

[Rudy Canoza]

There aren't any. They aren't needed. Trump reveals himself to have
shit character and shit intellect every time he opens his pursed lips.

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

And yet what is less Presidential than having no character and attaching
your opponent by attacking their family and making up lies about your
opponent, rather than discussing your own faults and your own
accomplishments and failures.

--
That's Karma ;)






*Rumination*

"All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent
them from owning firearms."
-Dianne Feinstein-

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 08/04/2016 08:00 AM, Frank wrote:

And yet what is less Presidential than having no character and attacking

your opponent by attacking their family and making up lies about your
opponent, rather than discussing your own faults and your own
accomplishments and failures.

Hillary ignores her own e-mail to attack TRUMP.

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That's Karma ;)






*Rumination*

#40 - The truth is always the truth, it doesn't matter if it's
discovered by accident or by genius, it's always the truth.

[First-Post]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:26:25 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

Just from seeing a lot of "man on the street" interviews and from
speaking to regular folks myself(my job requires a lot of public
interaction with all kinds of folks from maintenance guys to CEOs),
It seems like many people are just either willfully ignorant or simply
disconnected from the outside world. Perhaps they no longer believe
that the president is really relevant to their own lives anymore(which
is pure bullshit no doubt). Hell maybe there is something to those
Chemtrail conspiracies about chemicals being rained down upon us to
make everyone stupid and more primitive. People damn sure behave that
way.
Not to mention, when you listen to what they say are important issues
to them regarding who to vote for, it sounds more like they're trying
to decide if they want that person as a personal friend rather than
someone to administrate the government for them.

Just look at the majority of comments made by regular folks about
Hillary and Trump. It's mostly about stupid crap like wardrobe and
just personality. Honesty doesn't seem to count for much at all as is
shown by how many Americans think Hillary is dishonest compared to her
popularity. Most say she isn't honest but they still say they will
vote for her.
I've had several folks tell me in person that they aren't voting for
Trump because the "Arabs don't like him".
What? So it's more important that the people that we can't trust any
further than we can see them likes our president than whether or not
that president can benefit our own nation at home.
Others have stated it is because DC doesn't "like" him. Actual policy
doesn't appear to be that important to the public at large anymore.
Sure, the folks you hear calling in on talk radio or who leave
comments on the various news sites seem to pay attention. But Joe
Dick public doesn't seem to really give a damn as long as they can
have the afternoon Budweiser and turn on the TV or get on Face Book.
If the same idiots had been of voting age back in 1980, Reagan would
have lost by a landslide.

So even if folks do see through the "smoke screen", many of them will
simply ignore what they see.
America has indeed become an "Idiocracy". About the only big
difference between reality and that movie is that we haven't begun to
water our crops with Gatorade(Brawndo in the movie)...............YET.
What originally was a somewhat funny and satirical movie now looks
like reality TV.

[Rudy Canoza]

Yes. Those are called Trump and Sanders voters.

[Frank]

If she had gotten elected in the first place I do not think she would
have been nearly as bad as Obama. She is just as far to the left but
our international situation might be better. I attribute the Benghazi
debacle to her just doing Obama's wishes and not her directly. If she
gets elected now and having seen what Obama got away with she may become
Obama on steroids.

[abelard]

presently she seems devoted to money and power..perhaps she hopes
chelsea will become clinton the 3rd and have parties with kim the 4th


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[abelard]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:01:09 -0500, First-Post
<Liberals-Have-No-Point-If-They-Can't-Lie-A...@DumbassedDemocrats.com>
wrote:

your presidents have little real power despite the parades...
though the supreme court is a bit of a worry..



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[abelard]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:03:50 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:

go away, you clearly have nothing to say...

so why keep saying it?


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[First-Post]

Giving the benefit of the doubt, I doubt Hillary would have went on an
executive ordering rampage the way Obama has.
She would have governed as a leftist but she would have likely played
by the same rules as her predecessors. But now, since Obama has set
so many really bad precedences, she would have carte blanche to pretty
much make herself a dictator for life.

[Rudy Canoza]

You're wrong about that, of course. I'm not going anywhere, either.

You are a profoundly stupid person. You are what my wife's late uncle
"Buzz" used to refer to as "dull normal." Nearly all of what you think
you know simply is false, and your values are those of a distempered
alley cat.

[Rudy Canoza]

Proof again of your intense and willful stupidity. You just don't know
what the fuck you're bullshitting about, ever.

[Rudy Canoza]

> presently [sic] she seems devoted to money and power

Sounds a lot like Trump.

"presently" doesn't mean "at present", stupid. It means "soon."

[abelard]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:29:29 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>

you dodged the question


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[Rudy Canoza]

There was no question to dodge, of course - you didn't pose a question.
Even if you had, it would have been meaningless, because it would have
been based on numerous false premises.

You're too stupid for this. I think you know it, too.

[abelard]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:37:20 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>

you dodged the question again



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[Frank]

Basically that is what I am saying.
I had supported Cruz in the primary but in the back of my mind I hoped
he was not an ideologue who would follow in Obama's footsteps.
Our system of checks and balances has worked for years but it is
tottering in bad directions.

Trump is not like this and appears to be a pragmatic conservative which
is fine with me.

[Rudy Canoza]

No. You spouted bullshit again, of course. You always do, Uncle Fester.

[First-Post]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 21:21:21 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

Unless they are allowed to make multiple executive orders that are
outside of their scope of authority and the congress just sits by
without challenging them.

And the Supreme Court appointments that will be made by the next
president can indeed change the nation forever if it results in a 100%
liberal bench.
Hillary, for example, would be able to take anything that congress
bucks over to the SCOTUS and end up getting a new law in place and no
one would ever be able to successfully challenge her again.
A completely liberal SCOTUS could re-interpret the 22nd amendment once
A Hillary gets in office and change it's meaning entirely and there
would be no recourse for contesting it to any higher court.
The Scotus is indeed the most powerful group of people in our entire
government.
Get all 9 justices on the same corrupt, bias page and there would be
no limit to the damage they could do to the laws of this nation.

We get a president for a maximum of 8 years at the moment.
We get Supreme Court justices for the rest of their lives.

[First-Post]

Agreed whole heartedly.

[abelard]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:47:04 -0500, First-Post
<Liberals-Have-No-Point-If-They-Can't-Lie-A...@DumbassedDemocrats.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 21:21:21 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

>>your presidents have little real power despite the parades...
>> though the supreme court is a bit of a worry..
>
>Unless they are allowed to make multiple executive orders that are
>outside of their scope of authority and the congress just sits by
>without challenging them.

the whole system is set up so's no-one can do anything

>And the Supreme Court appointments that will be made by the next
>president can indeed change the nation forever if it results in a 100%
>liberal bench.

the country is changing...a government is bound to reflect that

>Hillary, for example, would be able to take anything that congress
>bucks over to the SCOTUS and end up getting a new law in place and no
>one would ever be able to successfully challenge her again.

>A completely liberal SCOTUS could re-interpret the 22nd amendment once
>A Hillary gets in office and change it's meaning entirely and there
>would be no recourse for contesting it to any higher court.

>The Scotus is indeed the most powerful group of people in our entire
>government.

>Get all 9 justices on the same corrupt, bias page and there would be
>no limit to the damage they could do to the laws of this nation.

>We get a president for a maximum of 8 years at the moment.
>We get Supreme Court justices for the rest of their lives.

a considerable proportion of the government is already owned
by capital and unions...
that's the nature of the country...

but the people are independent minded and have the right to
bear arms...

while times are disappointing, i wonder if you worry too much...

freedom is never free





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[Rudy Canoza]

You're both fucking idiots. Trump isn't *any* kind of conservative.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 8/4/2016 1:18 PM, abelard wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:47:04 -0500, First-Post
> <Liberals-Have-No-Point-If-They-Can't-Lie-A...@DumbassedDemocrats.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 21:21:21 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>
>
>>> your presidents have little real power despite the parades...
>>> though the supreme court is a bit of a worry..
>>
>> Unless they are allowed to make multiple executive orders that are
>> outside of their scope of authority and the congress just sits by
>> without challenging them.
>
> the whole system is set up so's no-one can do anything

"so's" - LOL!

Stupid hick

[First-Post]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 22:18:36 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

It is more than just simple worry when the candidate that is likely to
take the whitehouse has promised to bankrupt myself and everyone else
like me in the nation.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8050/watch-crowd-cheers-clintons-call-raise-taxes-robert-kraychik

That was 3 days ago and there has been no retraction or correction.
As stated in another post, what is truly disturbing is the cheers she
received for stating such.

[DoD]

"abelard" <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in message
news:qd57qbd6o7djab9gt...@4ax.com...

The thing to remember about Rudy is to never take him seriously. When he
starts trolling,
and it appears he is angry, I always have Steve Irwin's Australian voice in
my head say, Oh
crikey, we have an angry little cannoli,..... and then I just laugh and
ignore him. The other thing about
Rudy I can't figure out is when he casts his net out their to troll, is he
beating his keyboard
in anger as he comes across, or is he cracking himself up as he is tying?

[abelard]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 19:07:37 -0500, "DoD" <danski...@gmail.com>
wrote:

my position is the more such losers expose themselves, the better...

my inclination is to encourage them and then leave them swinging
in the wind



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[abelard]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 18:00:05 -0500, First-Post

some people cheer footballers...

people of that limited intellect cheer red or blue...there is
no intervening thought process...

if they vote, we have a saying...put a hi-liary badge on
a pig and such people will vote for them...

socialism is a cult for fools...it isn't a real political party...
it's a religion...in the usa they've moved beyond idiocy to
criminality...bribes to iran...cavalier attitudes to national
security..."what difference does it make" to dead bodies
from incompetence...
not even a distant relationship to truth....and still they will
vote for her

there is no reasoning with people like that...any more than
with other cultists like jihadis...

you're better working to improve education instead of
leaving education putting education in the hands of
self-interested union shirkers...

freedom isn't free....it take work and vigilance...


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[First-Post]

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 02:41:48 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

The new "information age" and "age of electronics" has brought
Americans to a point of being to preoccupied to take any real interest
in their children's education.
Parents today have become so self consumed in their own little worlds
that they rarely even interact with their school teachers like they
did in the 60s and 70s when I was growing up.
Nowadays you see banners announcing "Parent Teacher Night" on schools
and you'll see maybe a dozen cars parked in front. In my day the cars
would be parked over a mile on either side of the school as nearly
every parent would be there to talk to the teachers about their
children and the curriculum.
Parents pay more attention to their lawn care nowadays than they do
their children's education.

As I have stated countless times, the American public will indeed get
the government they deserve.
And they have been way too inattentive for way to long to be able to
turn it around anymore, unfortunately.
As long as Joe Dick citizen can come home and pop open a beer and park
their lazy fat ass in front of the television and zone out, the most
they will do is just bitch and complain and then take another drink
and try to forget about it.
That is what America has become.

[abelard]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 19:48:51 -0500, First-Post

https://www.hslda.org/docs/news/2013/201309030.asp
"Last week, the U.S. Department of Education’s National Center for
Education Statistics (NCES) released an eagerly awaited report on the
number of homeschool students in the U.S. The report showed that the
number of homeschool students has grown by almost 300,000 since the
last report in 2007.

This report was first conducted in 1999, when the NCES found that
approximately 850,000 students were homeschooled. In 2003, NCES found
that this number had grown to 1.1 million. And in 2007, NCES found
that 1.5 million students were homeschooled.

The new report concludes that approximately 1,770,000 students are
homeschooled in the United States—3.4% of the school-age population.
NCES said that among children who were homeschooled, 68 percent are
white, 15 percent are Hispanic, 8 percent are black, and 4 percent are
Asian or Pacific Islander."

home schooling takes immense efforts


these are very strange times...immense material and intellectual
advances esp at the top of education

it is hard to imagine that we are entering a new dark age in the
midst of such plenty
for hundreds of years societies have been in dreadful circumstances
while learning was almost entirely in the hands of monasteries...

leaving education in the hands of the fossil media and the blob
is a fairly recent behaviour...have children and then farm them
out to idiots...
is it for fashion? or is it status? or do the parents believe they are
toys?



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[First-Post]

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:06:36 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

In the case of the pre twenty something year old parents, sadly, many
teen age moms (18 and 19 year olds even) see their new born children
as exactly that.
Just try watching one of those teen mom reality shows sometime. Pretty
scary.

[Mr. B1ack]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:04:09 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 22:05:04 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 00:24:21 +0200, abelard <abel...@abelard.org>

>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-refuses-to-endorse-paul-ryan-in-gop-primary-im-just-not-quite-there-yet/2016/08/02/1449f028-58e9-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
>>>"Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is refusing to back
>>>House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his upcoming primary election, saying in
>>>an interview Tuesday that he is “not quite there yet” in endorsing his
>>>party’s top-ranking elected official."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>note
>>>for those who don't keep up with the games in the usa...
>>> this is a reflection of ryan's dipping and diving over support
>>> for trump
>>

>> Yes, it's a little tit-for-tat ... Ryans very iffy support of Trump
>> even after his big confirmation has led Trump to be very
>> iffy about Ryan.
>>
>> But it'll all get straightned-out over the next month or so -
>> the prospect of doing Hillary any favors will ensure it.
>
>trump is of course very much brighter than hi-liary and is
> therefore trying to communicate with the idiocracy on
> a level that is often beyond them....
>
>whereas hi-liary is a natural as she speaks their language...
>
>it's a toss-up whether there are enough voters who are
> not complete idiots to win trump the election...
>
>further, hi-liary cares dreadfully for power, whereas for trump
> power is his habitual experience...so my impression is that
> he really doesn't care whether he is president or not...


Hillary is a well-practiced deceiver ... been in politics
for a long time and knows how to bamboozle a crowd.
Polished look, polished rhetoric - they disguise her
naked greed for power and wealth above all else.

Trump isn't a politician, isn't polished, isn't a practiced
speaker. You hear exactly what he thinks (which ain't
always a great thing but it's refreshing in its own way).

So do you pick the polished Big Sister wannabe, or the
kinda rough-edged guy who tells it like it is ?