Texas Secession
Bob
infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
I would like to point out the inevitability of Texas Secession in the
hope that those of you who sincerely believe in freedom and liberty -
hallmarks of Texas Culture - would begin expending your energy in that
regard instead of wasting it arguing with criminal politicians and
mentally ill hoplophobes.
It has long been recognized that people who would infringe on our
right to self defense are either criminally or mentally ill. No person
of good will who possesses a rational mind would want to prevent
someone from employing the reasonable, effective means of self
protection. Only a criminal mind or a sick mind would ever contemplate
such an evil proposition.
We know that in general it is impossible to convert the criminal mind
and we know that it is impossible to convert the sick mind. In our
attempts to do so, we dirty ourselves with their filth - their
disgusting stench rubs off on us. We should therefore abandon such
futile, masochistic undertakings and work together to do something
that is really effective: Texas Secession.
I am convinced that those of you who thirst for real freedom know deep
down that it is all over with the United States federal govt as well
as the govts of the other English-speaking countries like Great
Britain. If the Waco Massacre in America or the Tony Martin
Persecution in Britain did not convince you of that, then I surely do
not know what ever will. For America, it was actually over when the
War Of Northern Aggression broke out. What we are experiencing today
is the culmination of 140 years of fascist (central govt) oppression,
just like the other English-speaking countries.
I recommend that we work together for something that makes
considerable good sense: Texas Secession. We here in Texas have all
that it takes to become an independent nation - we have an abundance
of agricultural and mineral resources, we have a sufficient population
of freedom-loving, well-armed people who are not afraid to put in a
day's work for a day's pay.
We are larger in geographical size than any country in Western Europe
- without the crowding. We could easily accommodate our freedom-loving
British cousins (what few there are) if they wanted to escape
oppression from their country. It may not be realized that Texas has
more people of Anglo extraction (English, Scots-Irish) than any other
group - although Germans are a close second.
But most importantly we believe in the sanctity of the individual. We
believe that no one has the legitimate power to enslave us for their
selfish or mentally ill ends. We recognize that it is our moral
obligation to fight any and all forms of godless collectivist
oppression whenever we can. Most importantly, we not only have a right
to be free - we have an obligation to be free.
We should not let the historical mistake of having once joined the
"Union" prevent us from returning to our original heritage - a nation
of God-Enabled Individuals who are willing to fight to the death to
preserve their freedom.
I have given this a lot of thought over the past several years - this
business of how to preserve our essential rights - and of late the
only thing that comes to my mind is Texas Secession. No other
mechanism is available to us which can return us to Constitutional
rule that we once had as a nation. The Texas Constitution was
fashioned from the US version, so we effectively have the same
Constitution.
The sad fact of reality is that the US Constitution was suspended in
1861 and has never been restored. In order to restore it, every
unconstitutional law would have to be repealed - something that we
know will never happen. If you do not believe that the Constitution is
suspended, consider this:
How can there be two sets of laws that contradict one another - one
set which derives from the Constitution and one set that contradicts
the Constitution? So which is it? Is the Constitution truly the law of
the land or are 25,000 gun control "laws" truly the law of the land?
It can't be both ways .
Since those gun control laws prevail - you can be imprisoned for
having a gun in Washington, New York, Chicago, etc - I conclude that
the Constitution is suspended - and that means that Constitutional
guarantees are meaningless.
How can we get out of this condition? There is only one way: Texas
Secession. If any of you think there is a more viable way to clean up
the mess caused by 140 years of Fascist Oppression, please let us
know.
For me, there is only one solution that makes any real sense - and we
must focus our energy on that solution instead of wasting it on a
corrupt/sick federal govt system where criminals and mental defectives
can dictate how we must live our lives.
Bob Knauer
Life Member-NRA
Life Member-TSRA
And the Torah says, "If someone comes to kill you, arise quickly
and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
atwood
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> It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
Wouldn't bother me in the least.
tiny
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Hello crap head, you back again? I need a good laugh.
Been hunting feral pigs again lately with you nice big Merkin gun.
Saw a program about a Merkin guy who is even more of a man
than you. He goes hunting with dogs and ropes. It was so sad
when he got mauled by the pig, it made his arm bleed, he rushed
off to the hospital, hours later.
Did some research about Texas secessionists since we last spoke.
They have been about a long time these guys, seemingly with an
ever decreasing share of the vote?
Marc Living
>It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
>infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
>Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
Its Bob K back again. Welcome back to upm.
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tiny
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> On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:37:47 GMT, rkn...@aimtec.com (Bob) wrote:
> >It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> >infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> >Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
> Its Bob K back again. Welcome back to upm.
He must have heard me, I only got back just before him.
a. goss
Have you got any Nukes and a decent anti missile defence cos if you
look like winning your brothers in Washington will fry you like they
did to those poor people in Waco.
betweentheeyes
members were dressing up like Mohawk Indians and were looking for an
appropriate symbol to toss in the Boston Harbor?
How far is Concord bridge?
"atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
>
Jonathan Bratt
<rkn...@aimtec.com> writes
>
>And the Torah says, "If someone comes to kill you, arise quickly
>and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
Question: have you ever worn a polycotton shirt, or eaten a prawn
sandwich?
--
Jonathan Bratt
Jim Patrick
wrote:
>Bob wrote:
>>And the Torah says, "If someone comes to kill you, arise quickly
>>and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
>
>Question: have you ever worn a polycotton shirt, or eaten a prawn
>sandwich?
Trolling for violations?
If the person wore the shirt, the Torah has no meaning any more?
If unKosher food was eaten, the person is no longer Jewish?
Jim Patrick
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tiny
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> On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:37:47 GMT, rkn...@aimtec.com (Bob) wrote:
> >It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> >infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> >Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
> Have you got any Nukes and a decent anti missile defence cos if you
> look like winning your brothers in Washington will fry you
Of course he has, he is a libertarian.
Larry@home
whatever stock.
tiny
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> >and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
>
> have you ever worn a polycotton shirt, or eaten a prawn sandwich?
You are too new to know this redneck, who happens to be not Jewish!
tiny
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> atwood wrote:
> > "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> > news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> > > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
> >
>
> your socialist pig programs.
No need to worry, the WTO bollixed that farmer social support.
Guy Smith
> > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
>
>
Alas, it would bother me, a gun-rights activist and a Texan in my heart. I
fear that is civil rights are no equally protected, then secession and
possibly civil war are the inevitable outcomes. My efforts in the American
control wars are in part to stop these paths.
Robb Bresciani
wrote:
>"Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
>news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
>> It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
>> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
>> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
>
>Wouldn't bother me in the least.
>
I'm from Texas, and I have to agree with you. We'd be better off
without sharing a national identity with the likes of YOU.
Robb
Robb Bresciani
wrote:
----snip----
>Have you got any Nukes and a decent anti missile defence cos if you
>look like winning your brothers in Washington will fry you like they
>did to those poor people in Waco.
>
Actually, if Texas seceeded and nationalized the missiles in the
state, we'd be OK. Add that to the Lockeeh Martin, Bell Helicopter,
and Grumman plants in the Dallas Fort Worth area alone, and we'd be
ok, defense-wise. Hypothetically speaking, of course. I'm not a big
fan of the "Republic of Texas" people. They're pretty extreme.
Robb
abelard
>It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
>infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
>Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
welcome back home young fellow...
regards.
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Greg
> It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
Perhaps it is not as clear to people like you that Texas was never
properly made a state of the union, and therefore cannot secede.
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Greg
"atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
He was a hero that died for his children. He could have ran for help,
but he stayed in the firefight to save his family. And he died for it
too. What would you have done, Atwood? Let me guess. You would run
and later tell reporters, "I couldn't save my children- I don't own a
gun. It was not my fault that I couldn't have protected them!"
You are slime, atwood. Begone fool!
Greg
> Actually, if Texas seceeded and nationalized the missiles in the
> state, we'd be OK. Add that to the Lockeeh Martin, Bell Helicopter,
> and Grumman plants in the Dallas Fort Worth area alone, and we'd be
> ok, defense-wise. Hypothetically speaking, of course. I'm not a big
> fan of the "Republic of Texas" people. They're pretty extreme.
Now how does a state nationalize the federal government's ICBMs? It
would seem to me that you would need to replace the federal military
missile launchers with Texas missile launchers. Then you need to
reroute the communications to a Texas command and control center. Then
you need to establish the means of changing and managing launch codes.
I think you need the federal government's help in most if not all of
this and they ain't going to do that for you. If anything, they will
nuke the nukes so Texas won't be able to get their hands on them- sort
of like scorched earth policy of the nuclear age.
Paul Hyett
view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
>infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
>Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
Hi Bob, never thought I'd see you on this newsgroup again! Not quite
sure why you chose ukpm over apb though.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham, England
Jonathan Bratt
<jpat...@shentel.net> writes
>>>and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
>>
>>sandwich?
>
> If the person wore the shirt, the Torah has no meaning any more?
> If unKosher food was eaten, the person is no longer Jewish?
>
religious texts that they feel support their view but conveniently
ignore the rest that might inconvenience them. If people want to hold
views and defend them, fine; but why bring in religious texts of
doubtful provenance unless you're prepared to go the whole hog - no pun
intended.
--
Jonathan Bratt
Jonathan Bratt
@brain.hotmail.com> writes
>"Jonathan Bratt" <j...@moseley1.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:JplniCBr...@moseley1.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, Bob
>> <rkn...@aimtec.com> writes
>> >
>> >and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
>>
>> have you ever worn a polycotton shirt, or eaten a prawn sandwich?
>
I thought as much. Makes my point (see other post) even more valid IMO.
--
Jonathan Bratt
Jim Patrick
>Not a troll. Just that I get tired of people are fond of quoting bits of
>religious texts that they feel support their view but conveniently
>ignore the rest that might inconvenience them. If people want to hold
>views and defend them, fine; but why bring in religious texts of
>doubtful provenance unless you're prepared to go the whole hog - no pun
>intended.
So you're saying that wearing a mixed fiber invalidates the law of defense?
atwood
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> In article <y3w_4.31085$OP1.2...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,
> "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> > "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> > news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> > > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
> >
>
> And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
Who's "Dr. Fang?" Some character from an old movie?
atwood
news:393f3848...@news.swbell.net...
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:09:50 GMT, "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net>
> wrote:
>
> >"Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> >news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> >> It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> >> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> >> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
> >
> >
> >Wouldn't bother me in the least.
> >
>
> without sharing a national identity with the likes of YOU.
We can agree on one thing, then. I've been to Texas about a dozen times and
never have understood why anyone would want to live there, unless maybe
they've got a job that pays more money than God and they're just putting up
with Texas for a few years until they can leave. No wonder New England
almost left the Union in protest against the Mexican war. Who the hell would
want to fight for Texas?
atwood
>
> > Actually, if Texas seceeded and nationalized the missiles in the
> > state, we'd be OK. Add that to the Lockeeh Martin, Bell Helicopter,
> > and Grumman plants in the Dallas Fort Worth area alone, and we'd be
> > ok, defense-wise. Hypothetically speaking, of course. I'm not a big
> > fan of the "Republic of Texas" people. They're pretty extreme.
>
> Now how does a state nationalize the federal government's ICBMs? It
> would seem to me that you would need to replace the federal military
> missile launchers with Texas missile launchers. Then you need to
> reroute the communications to a Texas command and control center. Then
> you need to establish the means of changing and managing launch codes.
> I think you need the federal government's help in most if not all of
> this and they ain't going to do that for you. If anything, they will
> nuke the nukes so Texas won't be able to get their hands on them- sort
> of like scorched earth policy of the nuclear age.
The biggest problem would be finding people to operate them. Texas has some
of the worst schools in the country. It's a nasty, violent place full of
stupid rednecks. To the extent that educated people live there, they've been
imported through very generous salary offers. I received two such offers,
but flew down there and decided even 2.5x my current comp isn't enough to
make up for having to live in Texas.
Take away the Yankee imports and the federal subsidies to the military
plants, and all you've got left are snakes, scorpions, native Texan cretins
and a bunch of empty chain restaurants.
tiny
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> atwood <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:y3w_4.31085$OP1.2...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > > It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> > > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> > > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
> > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
>
> Alas, it would bother me, a gun-rights activist and a Texan in my heart.
> I fear that is civil rights are no equally protected, then secession and
> possibly civil war are the inevitable outcomes. My efforts in the
> American control wars are in part to stop these paths.
Do not talk crap,. you want to play weekend warrior and will use
any excuse or lever on the way, whether you believe it or not.
Bob
wrote:
>welcome back home young fellow...
Just a brief visit.
Bob Knauer
Bob
>Perhaps it is not as clear to people like you that Texas was never
>properly made a state of the union, and therefore cannot secede.
The problem I have with that is: Why did Texas secede in 1861 if it
was not part of the Union?
BTW, there are several other strange things in Texas history - for
example, Texas did not sign the surrender at Appomattox Courthouse and
continued to prosecute the War Of Northern Aggression for 1 1/2 years.
The govt sent federal troops to conquer the sovereign nation of Texas,
and Texas was forced back into the Union. The second time was not
voluntary.
But whatever strangeness there is to Texas history, the simple reality
is that Texas is a state of the United States and therefore it will
take Texas Secession to free us from the Fascist Beast in Harlot
Washington.
I figure that after the govt makes a concerted attempt to confiscate
our guns, we will finally awaken to that reality. I just hope it is
not too late.
Bob
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Not quite sure why you chose ukpm over apb though.
What's 'apb'?
Steve The Sausage
>On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 08:48:10 GMT, Greg <ciph...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>Perhaps it is not as clear to people like you that Texas was never
>>properly made a state of the union, and therefore cannot secede.
>
>The problem I have with that is: Why did Texas secede in 1861 if it
>was not part of the Union?
>
>BTW, there are several other strange things in Texas history - for
>example, Texas did not sign the surrender at Appomattox Courthouse and
>continued to prosecute the War Of Northern Aggression for 1 1/2 years.
>The govt sent federal troops to conquer the sovereign nation of Texas,
>and Texas was forced back into the Union. The second time was not
>voluntary.
>
>But whatever strangeness there is to Texas history, the simple reality
>is that Texas is a state of the United States and therefore it will
>take Texas Secession to free us from the Fascist Beast in Harlot
>Washington.
This is uk.politics.misc and I don't give a toss what you do or don't
do in Texas.
Nice to see you again Bob!
Cliff Morrison
<atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> The biggest problem would be finding people to operate them. Texas has some
> of the worst schools in the country. It's a nasty, violent place full of
> stupid rednecks. To the extent that educated people live there, they've been
> imported through very generous salary offers. I received two such offers,
> but flew down there and decided even 2.5x my current comp isn't enough to
> make up for having to live in Texas.
>
> Take away the Yankee imports and the federal subsidies to the military
> plants, and all you've got left are snakes, scorpions, native Texan cretins
> and a bunch of empty chain restaurants.
Wow... is that what one could call a xenophobic Yankee bigot?
Jonathan Bratt
<jpat...@shentel.net> writes
>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Jonathan Bratt <j...@moseley1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Not a troll. Just that I get tired of people are fond of quoting bits of
>>religious texts that they feel support their view but conveniently
>>ignore the rest that might inconvenience them. If people want to hold
>>views and defend them, fine; but why bring in religious texts of
>>doubtful provenance unless you're prepared to go the whole hog - no pun
>>intended.
>
>So you're saying that wearing a mixed fiber invalidates the law of defense?
Not at all. But make the point by arguing for it logically - not by
quoting from a religious text to give support for your case. Unless that
is you are prepared to accept everything in that text and abide by it.
--
Jonathan Bratt
Jonathan Bratt
<rkn...@aimtec.com> writes
And 'The Lion , The Witch and the Wardrobe says:' And when Lucy turned
around - it wasn't there any more!'
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Glenworthy@xteleport.com Henry Glenworthy
"tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Greg" <ciph...@my-deja.com>
> wrote in message news:8hfpk9$k9v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> > > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
> > And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
> > He was a hero that died for his children.
> No, he was an arsehole who died so everyone could
> have the guns that allowed the firefight in the first place.
>>>>
You'd prefer that machetes had been used instead?
--------------------------------
tiny
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> On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Bob <rkn...@aimtec.com> stated this considered
> view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
> >It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> >infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> >Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
> Hi Bob, never thought I'd see you on this newsgroup again!
> Not quite sure why you chose ukpm over apb though.
I have a theory. Some people change NGs because the holes in their
arguments and personalities have been discovered. They have to look
for new fields, to replay the only subjects they know anything about.
tiny
"Jim Patrick" <jpat...@shentel.net> wrote in message
news:kp2njs0ik2jf3db1d...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Jonathan Bratt <j...@moseley1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Not a troll. Just that I get tired of people are fond of quoting bits of
> >religious texts that they feel support their view but conveniently
> >ignore the rest that might inconvenience them. If people want to hold
> >views and defend them, fine; but why bring in religious texts of
> >doubtful provenance unless you're prepared to go the whole hog - no pun
> >intended.
>
> So you're saying that wearing a mixed fiber invalidates the law of
defense?
I like most often have trouble ascertaining what Bratt says,
but he never said that!
tiny
tiny
> If people want to hold views and defend them, fine; but why bring
> in religious texts of doubtful provenance unless you're prepared to
> go the whole hog - no pun intended.
You should not mention hog in front of R. Knauer!
He gets the urge so bad, some poor little feral piggy dies.
tiny
news:s8rljsk4mgkbjbrsc...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:37:47 GMT, rkn...@aimtec.com (Bob) typed:
> >It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> >infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> >Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
> welcome back home young fellow...
I am most disappointed.
He seems a shadow of his former combative self?
tiny
>
> > Actually, if Texas seceeded and nationalized the missiles in the
> > state, we'd be OK. Add that to the Lockeeh Martin, Bell Helicopter,
> > and Grumman plants in the Dallas Fort Worth area alone, and we'd be
> > ok, defense-wise. Hypothetically speaking, of course. I'm not a big
> > fan of the "Republic of Texas" people. They're pretty extreme.
>
> Now how does a state nationalize the federal government's ICBMs? It
> would seem to me that you would need to replace the federal military
> missile launchers with Texas missile launchers. Then you need to
> reroute the communications to a Texas command and control center. Then
> you need to establish the means of changing and managing launch codes.
> I think you need the federal government's help in most if not all of
> this and they ain't going to do that for you. If anything, they will
> nuke the nukes so Texas won't be able to get their hands on them- sort
> of like scorched earth policy of the nuclear age.
Is that before or after they withdraw defence contract with foreign state?
tiny
> >Not quite sure why you chose ukpm over apb though.
>
> What's 'apb'?
Short term memory loss getting to be a problem, or do you
never read headers showing which NGs you are replying to?
tiny
> >welcome back home young fellow...
>
> Just a brief visit.
Such a shame.
tiny
> I figure that after the govt makes a concerted attempt to
> confiscate our guns, we will finally awaken to that reality.
> I just hope it is not too late.
They will have to find you something else to do in your spare time,
other than shooting tin cans or feral pigs.
tiny
wrote in message news:V5P_4.2891$v_.2...@nntp2.onemain.com...
> "tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:JXO_4.2133$6T1.4...@news.dircon.co.uk...
> > wrote in message news:8hfpk9$k9v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> > > > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
>
> > > And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
>
> > > He was a hero that died for his children.
>
> > No, he was an arsehole who died so everyone could
> > have the guns that allowed the firefight in the first place.
>
> You'd prefer that machetes had been used instead?
You would have to first accept the battle was inevitable,
without the gun to encourage it!
Robb Bresciani
wrote:
>"Robb Bresciani" <rob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:393f3848...@news.swbell.net...
>> On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:09:50 GMT, "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
>> >news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
>> >> It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
>> >> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
>> >> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>> >
>> >
>> >Wouldn't bother me in the least.
>> >
>>
>> I'm from Texas, and I have to agree with you. We'd be better off
>> without sharing a national identity with the likes of YOU.
>
>
>We can agree on one thing, then. I've been to Texas about a dozen times and
>never have understood why anyone would want to live there, unless maybe
>they've got a job that pays more money than God and they're just putting up
>with Texas for a few years until they can leave. No wonder New England
>almost left the Union in protest against the Mexican war. Who the hell would
>want to fight for Texas?
>
Freedom loving individuals. You really ought to try freedom at least
once. It's a wonderful thing. Of course, there's no Big Brother to
hold your hand everytime you take a pee, so you might not be able to
"go" and that could lead to a serious bladder problem. And since Ozzy
already took care of the Alamo for us, nevermind.
Robb
Robb Bresciani
<t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
>news:393ba3f...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
>
>> I figure that after the govt makes a concerted attempt to
>> confiscate our guns, we will finally awaken to that reality.
>> I just hope it is not too late.
>
>They will have to find you something else to do in your spare time,
>other than shooting tin cans or feral pigs.
>
By rhe way, what's wrong with shooting feral pigs? The damn things are
a nuisance! A tasty nuisance, but a nuisance.
Robb
Bob Smith
In article <393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
rkn...@aimtec.com wrote:
> It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>
> I would like to point out the inevitability of Texas Secession in the
> hope that those of you who sincerely believe in freedom and liberty -
> hallmarks of Texas Culture - would begin expending your energy in that
> regard instead of wasting it arguing with criminal politicians and
> mentally ill hoplophobes.
>
> It has long been recognized that people who would infringe on our
> right to self defense are either criminally or mentally ill. No person
> of good will who possesses a rational mind would want to prevent
> someone from employing the reasonable, effective means of self
> protection. Only a criminal mind or a sick mind would ever contemplate
> such an evil proposition.
>
> We know that in general it is impossible to convert the criminal mind
> and we know that it is impossible to convert the sick mind. In our
> attempts to do so, we dirty ourselves with their filth - their
> disgusting stench rubs off on us. We should therefore abandon such
> futile, masochistic undertakings and work together to do something
> that is really effective: Texas Secession.
>
> I am convinced that those of you who thirst for real freedom know deep
> down that it is all over with the United States federal govt as well
> as the govts of the other English-speaking countries like Great
> Britain. If the Waco Massacre in America or the Tony Martin
> Persecution in Britain did not convince you of that, then I surely do
> not know what ever will. For America, it was actually over when the
> War Of Northern Aggression broke out. What we are experiencing today
> is the culmination of 140 years of fascist (central govt) oppression,
> just like the other English-speaking countries.
>
> I recommend that we work together for something that makes
> considerable good sense: Texas Secession. We here in Texas have all
> that it takes to become an independent nation - we have an abundance
> of agricultural and mineral resources, we have a sufficient population
> of freedom-loving, well-armed people who are not afraid to put in a
> day's work for a day's pay.
>
> We are larger in geographical size than any country in Western Europe
> - without the crowding. We could easily accommodate our freedom-loving
> British cousins (what few there are) if they wanted to escape
> oppression from their country. It may not be realized that Texas has
> more people of Anglo extraction (English, Scots-Irish) than any other
> group - although Germans are a close second.
>
> But most importantly we believe in the sanctity of the individual. We
> believe that no one has the legitimate power to enslave us for their
> selfish or mentally ill ends. We recognize that it is our moral
> obligation to fight any and all forms of godless collectivist
> oppression whenever we can. Most importantly, we not only have a right
> to be free - we have an obligation to be free.
>
> We should not let the historical mistake of having once joined the
> "Union" prevent us from returning to our original heritage - a nation
> of God-Enabled Individuals who are willing to fight to the death to
> preserve their freedom.
>
> I have given this a lot of thought over the past several years - this
> business of how to preserve our essential rights - and of late the
> only thing that comes to my mind is Texas Secession. No other
> mechanism is available to us which can return us to Constitutional
> rule that we once had as a nation. The Texas Constitution was
> fashioned from the US version, so we effectively have the same
> Constitution.
>
> The sad fact of reality is that the US Constitution was suspended in
> 1861 and has never been restored. In order to restore it, every
> unconstitutional law would have to be repealed - something that we
> know will never happen. If you do not believe that the Constitution is
> suspended, consider this:
>
> How can there be two sets of laws that contradict one another - one
> set which derives from the Constitution and one set that contradicts
> the Constitution? So which is it? Is the Constitution truly the law of
> the land or are 25,000 gun control "laws" truly the law of the land?
> It can't be both ways .
>
> Since those gun control laws prevail - you can be imprisoned for
> having a gun in Washington, New York, Chicago, etc - I conclude that
> the Constitution is suspended - and that means that Constitutional
> guarantees are meaningless.
>
> How can we get out of this condition? There is only one way: Texas
> Secession. If any of you think there is a more viable way to clean up
> the mess caused by 140 years of Fascist Oppression, please let us
> know.
>
> For me, there is only one solution that makes any real sense - and we
> must focus our energy on that solution instead of wasting it on a
> corrupt/sick federal govt system where criminals and mental defectives
> can dictate how we must live our lives.
>
> Bob Knauer
> Life Member-NRA
> Life Member-TSRA
>
> And the Torah says, "If someone comes to kill you, arise quickly
> and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Robb Bresciani
Nahhhh... just call him an asshole. It's more appropriate. You start
using any larger words, and he hides under a rock.
Robb
tiny
news:8hgl3k$8bg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> I hope they will take refugees. I plan on being one...
If I were you I would not bother, you probably would not
last that long, given your inability to obey local norms.
tiny
Nothing at all, only it really hurts the ego of a person who measures
his manhood by the ability to shoot these dangerous animals, when
I call them feral.
tiny
news:393B70C7...@eos.ncsu.edu...
> When this happens, I will be moving to Texas!
Leave early, get a plot while they are cheap.
John Wilson
Marc Living
<t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Its Bob K back again. Welcome back to upm.
>He must have heard me, I only got back just before him.
Hmmm ... suspicious that:-)
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tiny
message news:f7bnjsobgo14qnjhh...@4ax.com...
> >> Its Bob K back again. Welcome back to upm.
>
> >He must have heard me, I only got back just before him.
>
> Hmmm ... suspicious that:-)
Synchronicity,
although he did manage to miss 4 or 5 of my previous flying visits.
pencil
a. goss
Laughing
Marc Living
<j...@moseley1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Not at all. But make the point by arguing for it logically - not by
>quoting from a religious text to give support for your case. Unless that
>is you are prepared to accept everything in that text and abide by it.
So everybody in America who supported freedom of expression as
provided for in the US Constitution had to be, at various times in
American history, pro-slavery, anti-slavery, teetotal and
non-teetotal?
don
>
> "Greg" <ciph...@my-deja.com>
> wrote in message news:8hfpk9$k9v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > He was a hero that died for his children.
>
> No, he was an arsehole who died so everyone could
> have the guns that allowed the firefight in the first place.
Fool! d
--
"Tender-handed stroke the nettle, And it stings you for your pains;
Grasp it like a man of mettle, And it soft as silk remains." Aaron Hill,
1685-1750
don
>
> "Henry Glenworthy" <Henry Glenw...@xteleport.com>
> wrote in message news:V5P_4.2891$v_.2...@nntp2.onemain.com...
> > "tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:JXO_4.2133$6T1.4...@news.dircon.co.uk...
>
> > > > > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
> >
> > > > And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
> >
> > > > He was a hero that died for his children.
> >
> > > No, he was an arsehole who died so everyone could
> > > have the guns that allowed the firefight in the first place.
> >
>
> You would have to first accept the battle was inevitable,
> without the gun to encourage it!
If you understood the motivation of the perps you would know it was
inevitable and the presence or absence of guns was irrelevant. Thugs use
many things other than guns to get their way. Let's hope, assuming you
have such a dislike of guns, that you never find yourself the target of
such a groups attentions. d
Jim Patrick
> Jim Patrick wrote:
>>So you're saying that wearing a mixed fiber invalidates the law of defense?
>Not at all.
Then why did you post it?
>........But make the point by arguing for it logically - not by
>quoting from a religious text to give support for your case.
It was posted as part of a logical argument. Are you claiming that quotes are
forbidden from logic? That support from a text is forbidden? ... or that
religion is forbidden from logic?... that support is forbidden?
>.....Unless that
>is you are prepared to accept everything in that text and abide by it.
So you agree with every single part of the UK law -- a value system?
If you want to debate Reform v Hassidism, take it to the appropriate group.
But millions of people in the world -- Christians, Jews, even Mohammedans --
accept the "major tenets" of their chosen faith without mistaking them for the
"minor tenets" of that faith.
Nor do they try to box people into religious arguments that only peripherally
relate to the subject of conversation.
Jim Patrick
___________________________________________________
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Allan Lindsay-ONeal
"Pat Hines" <fas...@home.com> wrote in message
news:393C5439...@home.com...
> The states of the old Confederacy could easily secede again and
> wouldn't have a reduced standard of living at all.
>
> Take a look at: http://www.dixienet.org/dn-gazette/csatoday.html
I have to opine that the standard of living in a "New Confederacy" would
drop as a function of the sudden influx of refugees from what's left of
America - you know, refugees from that part of the US that worships Bill and
Hilary and their kind.
OTOH, what's left of America would probably quickly wither and die as the
independent minds withdraw their consent to be governed and head South..
Allan Lindsay-ONeal
> "Guy Smith" <gu...@home.net> wrote in message
> news:9nG_4.4975$e5.6...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com...
> > Alas, it would bother me, a gun-rights activist and a Texan in my heart.
> > I fear that is civil rights are no equally protected, then secession and
> > possibly civil war are the inevitable outcomes. My efforts in the
> > American control wars are in part to stop these paths.
>
> Do not talk crap,. you want to play weekend warrior and will use
> any excuse or lever on the way, whether you believe it or not.
I do some of that work with Mr Smith, and based on what I read from you,
you'd have to stand oin your mother's shoulders just to kiss Mr Smith's ass.
Tiny, all right. Tiny brain.
Robb Bresciani
Nah... feral pigs are NASTY, no metter what you call 'em. I'd hate to
be in the middle of a pack of the criiters... With or without a
firearm. Wanna see me scoot up a tree as fast as my fat ass can climb?
put me in the path of one of these buggers!
Robb
Greg
> > > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
> >
> > And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
> >
> > He was a hero that died for his children.
>
> No, he was an arsehole who died so everyone could
> have the guns that allowed the firefight in the first place.
You and atwood both lack manhood. Niether understands courage.
Your chat is idle in our ears. Begone, for we have no need of
your discourse. You shame yourself.
--
There is only one gun law on the books- the second amendment.
The only vote that you waste is the one you never wanted to make.
RICO- we were told it was a necessary surrender of our civil liberties.
Asset Forfeiture- the latest inevitable result of RICO.
Greg
> > You'd prefer that machetes had been used instead?
>
> You would have to first accept the battle was inevitable,
> without the gun to encourage it!
You are right and we do. So begone, fool.
Greg
> [ snip mindless trash ]
begone fool. You shame the title America with your cowardice.
Greg
> [ snip insignificant dribble ]
begone fool. Your cowardice shames you and you shame the title
American.
Greg
> > Take away the Yankee imports and the federal subsidies...
> Wow... is that what one could call a xenophobic Yankee bigot?
No, that is what you call cowardice in American clothing that shames
himself...
Greg
> The problem I have with that is: Why did Texas secede in 1861 if it
> was not part of the Union?
I am not sure. But I understand where you are leading with this.
> BTW, there are several other strange things in Texas history - for
> example, Texas did not sign the surrender at Appomattox Courthouse and
> continued to prosecute the War Of Northern Aggression for 1 1/2 years.
> The govt sent federal troops to conquer the sovereign nation of Texas,
> and Texas was forced back into the Union. The second time was not
> voluntary.
So you would agree that it was not properly made a state for it was
never accepted by the people nor the state. As a result...
> But whatever strangeness there is to Texas history, the simple reality
> is that Texas is a state of the United States and therefore it will
> take Texas Secession to free us from the Fascist Beast in Harlot
> Washington.
No, this is not true, for there is a bill that perpetually perplexes
the federal congress in the judiciary commitee on how to relate to
Texas BECAUSE it is not a state. Texas has senators and the congress
reperentatives as the appearance as a state by laws passed, but was
not brought in like any other state as a state of the union.
> I figure that after the govt makes a concerted attempt to confiscate
> our guns, we will finally awaken to that reality. I just hope it is
> not too late.
I was thinking if I don't want to stay in Hawai'i, I will try Texas
next. Perhaps even Florida. Though I am not crazy about living
under either of the Bush's, I do think the warm water is preferable
to CA's beeches AND the gun laws are much better.
Greg
"tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> news:393ba3f...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
>
> > confiscate our guns, we will finally awaken to that reality.
> > I just hope it is not too late.
>
> other than shooting tin cans or feral pigs.
You shame yourself. Begone, coward.
tiny
news:8hh8is$pbs$2...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Can me and my wife and children join also?
When you find them!
Pat Hines
> >
> > > Actually, if Texas seceeded and nationalized the missiles in the
> > > state, we'd be OK. Add that to the Lockeeh Martin, Bell Helicopter,
> > > and Grumman plants in the Dallas Fort Worth area alone, and we'd be
> > > ok, defense-wise. Hypothetically speaking, of course. I'm not a big
> > > fan of the "Republic of Texas" people. They're pretty extreme.
> >
> > Now how does a state nationalize the federal government's ICBMs? It
> > would seem to me that you would need to replace the federal military
> > missile launchers with Texas missile launchers. Then you need to
> > reroute the communications to a Texas command and control center. Then
> > you need to establish the means of changing and managing launch codes.
> > I think you need the federal government's help in most if not all of
> > this and they ain't going to do that for you. If anything, they will
> > nuke the nukes so Texas won't be able to get their hands on them- sort
> > of like scorched earth policy of the nuclear age.
>
> The biggest problem would be finding people to operate them.
That would be no problem at all, Southrons are a huge portion of those
operating those missiles now.
> Texas has some of the worst schools in the country. It's a nasty, violent place
> full of stupid rednecks.
As the second, ust barely, most populous state in the US Texas is one
of the wealthiest states in both human resources and mineral resources
in the US. Like the majority of the Southern states of the old
Confederacy, it could get along better without Massachusetts, than
Massachusetts could get along without it.
> To the extent that educated people live there, they've been
> imported through very generous salary offers. I received two such offers,
> but flew down there and decided even 2.5x my current comp isn't enough to
> make up for having to live in Texas.
Yes, I'm sure Texas is sorrowful over that loss.
> Take away the Yankee imports and the federal subsidies to the military
> plants, and all you've got left are snakes, scorpions, native Texan cretins
> and a bunch of empty chain restaurants.
The states of the old Confederacy could easily secede again and
wouldn't have a reduced standard of living at all.
Take a look at: http://www.dixienet.org/dn-gazette/csatoday.html
Pat Hines
tiny
You but would you tell a news group you are a man because you
went hunting them and shoot at tin cans, as R Knauer did?
atwood
>
>
> > > > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
> > >
> > > And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
> > >
> > > He was a hero that died for his children.
> >
> > No, he was an arsehole who died so everyone could
> > have the guns that allowed the firefight in the first place.
>
> You and atwood both lack manhood. Niether understands courage.
>
> Your chat is idle in our ears. Begone, for we have no need of
> your discourse. You shame yourself.
But please tell me who "Dr. Fang" is! A character from a Charlie Chan movie,
perhaps?!
atwood
news:cliffm-0506...@th-gt141-124.pool.dircon.co.uk...
.
>
> Wow... is that what one could call a xenophobic Yankee bigot?
No, I'm just prejudiced against Texas. So sue me.
tiny
news:sjon149...@corp.supernews.com...
Unlike your predilection, I have no wish to kiss anyone's ass,
no matter how deformed they are.
tiny
> In article <ylP_4.2147$6T1.4...@news.dircon.co.uk>,
> "tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> > news:393ba3f...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > > I figure that after the govt makes a concerted attempt to
> > > confiscate our guns, we will finally awaken to that reality.
> > > I just hope it is not too late.
> >
> > They will have to find you something else to do in your spare time,
> > other than shooting tin cans or feral pigs.
>
> You shame yourself. Begone, coward.
Actually, I think you have followed on the coat tails of R Knauer,
coming to visit me, so you begonia (sic).
Bob
<jmwi...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote:
>> It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
>> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to Texas
>> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
>When this happens, I will be moving to Texas!
Why not move here now and help us make it a reality sooner than later.
Bob Knauer
And the Torah says, "If someone comes to kill you, arise quickly
and kill him." -- The Talmud, Sanhedrin 72a
Paul Hyett
view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:13:34 +0100, Paul Hyett
><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Not quite sure why you chose ukpm over apb though.
>
>What's 'apb'?
Alt.politics.british - it seems to attract more non-British posters on
UK matters than ukpm does.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham, England
no one of consequence
tiny <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
]"Robb Bresciani" <rob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
]news:393e49ba...@news.swbell.net...
]> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:26:22 +0100, "tiny"
]> <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
]
]> >Nothing at all, only it really hurts the ego of a person who measures
]> >his manhood by the ability to shoot these dangerous animals, when
]> >I call them feral.
]>
]> Nah... feral pigs are NASTY, no metter what you call 'em. I'd hate
]> to be in the middle of a pack of the criiters... With or without a
]> firearm. Wanna see me scoot up a tree as fast as my fat ass can
]> climb? put me in the path of one of these buggers!
]
]You but would you tell a news group you are a man because you
]went hunting them and shoot at tin cans, as R Knauer did?
Would you tell a newsgroup that hunting feral pigs was the same as hunting
domesticated pigs, as David "The Nit Nurse" Morning did?
--
|Patrick Chester (Now in Elmhurst, Illinois) wol...@io.com |
|"Anything I can do to help?" "Um. Short of dying? No, can't think of a |
| thing." -Morden, Vir. 'Interludes and Examinations' -Babylon 5 |
|Wittier remarks always come to mind just after sending your article.... |
Jonathan Bratt
<black...@BOUNCEBACK.cwcom.net> writes>>Not at all. But make the point by arguing for it logically - not by
>>quoting from a religious text to give support for your case. Unless that
>>is you are prepared to accept everything in that text and abide by it.
>
>provided for in the US Constitution had to be, at various times in
>American history, pro-slavery, anti-slavery, teetotal and
>non-teetotal?
>
>
actions - and nothing else - yes!
--
Jonathan Bratt
Robb Bresciani
wrote:
OF course... if you ever hit the Oak Lawn area of Dallas, all of your
dislikes would melt away into the orgy from your bretheren. You
probably just had a hard time finding your kind of people. Trust me,
they're here. We don't even give them too hard a time. You'd probably
enjoy the parade during halloween. I'm sure you'd fit right in!
Robb
Robb Bresciani
That's because most of the Brits have been conditioned to never
question authority, so they don't dare say anything on a political ng.
Robb
Robb Bresciani
wrote:
>"Greg" <ciph...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
Damn! Do you think you could BE any more racist in that comment???
Robb Bresciani
<t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Robb Bresciani" <rob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:393e49ba...@news.swbell.net...
>> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:26:22 +0100, "tiny"
>> <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >Nothing at all, only it really hurts the ego of a person who measures
>> >his manhood by the ability to shoot these dangerous animals, when
>> >I call them feral.
>>
>> Nah... feral pigs are NASTY, no metter what you call 'em. I'd hate
>> to be in the middle of a pack of the criiters... With or without a
>> firearm. Wanna see me scoot up a tree as fast as my fat ass can
>> climb? put me in the path of one of these buggers!
>
>You but would you tell a news group you are a man because you
>went hunting them and shoot at tin cans, as R Knauer did?
>
I haven't so far... But if I were in a sarcastic mood? Probably.
Robb
tiny
wrote in message news:8hj3a3$rur$1...@hiram.io.com...
> ]You but would you tell a news group you are a man because you
> ]went hunting them and shoot at tin cans, as R Knauer did?
>
> Would you tell a newsgroup that hunting feral pigs was the same as
> hunting domesticated pigs, as David "The Nit Nurse" Morning did?
Of course not, they are fatter slower and do not have tusks,
but then again, if it was to annoy R Knauer, I could be tempted
tiny
> On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:32:19 +0100, "tiny"
> <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >"Robb Bresciani" <rob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:393e49ba...@news.swbell.net...
> >> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:26:22 +0100, "tiny"
> >> <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Nothing at all, only it really hurts the ego of a person who measures
> >> >his manhood by the ability to shoot these dangerous animals, when
> >> >I call them feral.
> >>
> >> Nah... feral pigs are NASTY, no metter what you call 'em. I'd hate
> >> to be in the middle of a pack of the criiters... With or without a
> >> firearm. Wanna see me scoot up a tree as fast as my fat ass can
> >> climb? put me in the path of one of these buggers!
> >
> >You but would you tell a news group you are a man because you
> >went hunting them and shoot at tin cans, as R Knauer did?
>
> I haven't so far... But if I were in a sarcastic mood? Probably.
Then spend 3 months defending the position, I doubt any sensible
person would continue that long. No sarcasm detected from R Knauer.
Robin
writes
> "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>> [ snip mindless trash ]
>
>begone fool. You shame the title America with your cowardice.
There's a row brewing here with our Naval vets furious at some Hollywood
film that shows Americans capturing the first Enigma machine from a
German U-boat.
I suppose it must be hard for the poor Yanks with little military
success since the war of independence but it's a bit much to attempt to
fabricate history in this way.
I was talking recently with a retired chopper pilot that flew missions
in our Asian war, the Malaysian/Borneo business that to some extent
coincided with Vietnam. He was telling me how the Yanks were hassling
him to get off their wavebands one day and apparently shouted ' hey
dontcha know we're fighting a war here' to which he replied 'yes, so are
we, but we're winning' :)
We did too!
--
Robin
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a. goss
consequence) wrote:
>In article <bBY_4.83$5B.1...@news.dircon.co.uk>,
>tiny <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
>]"Robb Bresciani" <rob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>]news:393e49ba...@news.swbell.net...
>]> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:26:22 +0100, "tiny"
>]> <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
>]
>]> >Nothing at all, only it really hurts the ego of a person who measures
>]> >his manhood by the ability to shoot these dangerous animals, when
>]> >I call them feral.
>]>
>]> Nah... feral pigs are NASTY, no metter what you call 'em. I'd hate
>]> to be in the middle of a pack of the criiters... With or without a
>]> firearm. Wanna see me scoot up a tree as fast as my fat ass can
>]> climb? put me in the path of one of these buggers!
>]
>]You but would you tell a news group you are a man because you
>]went hunting them and shoot at tin cans, as R Knauer did?
>
>Would you tell a newsgroup that hunting feral pigs was the same as hunting
>domesticated pigs, as David "The Nit Nurse" Morning did?
>
Ah!
Is that what it was on Knauers web site. I thought it was bob having a
kip. Couldn't understand who the two with the guns were.
Andrea Collins
<atw...@mediaone.net> writes>news:8hfpk9$k9v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>> In article <y3w_4.31085$OP1.2...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,>> > news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
>> > > It is probably not as clear to many people .(SNIP).....
>>
>> And Dr Fang's death? Did that bother you? Probably not.
>
>
>
>
Look, it's a serious question!
Please, WHAT were the circumstances of Dr Fang's death - who was he and
why was it significant?
We'd like to know.
Thank you.
--
Andrea Collins
rglench...@my-deja.com
Robin <Alp...@droom.demon.co.uk.spam> wrote:
> In article <8hhjiq$do$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Greg <ciph...@my-deja.com>
> writes
> > "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> >> [ snip mindless trash ]
> >
> >begone fool. You shame the title America with your cowardice.
>
> There's a row brewing here with our Naval vets furious at some
Hollywood
> film that shows Americans capturing the first Enigma machine from a
> German U-boat.
Hollywood is not concerned with telling truth, but selling tickets. If
they thought they could portray Jesus living with a whore and it would
sell tickets, then they would do it. Come to think of it, they did do
it.
> I suppose it must be hard for the poor Yanks with little military
> success since the war of independence but it's a bit much to attempt
to
> fabricate history in this way.
Little success? You mean like the War of 1812, or The Mexican-American
War, or numerous others, like the ones we beat the Germans up in for
you? How about the Gulf War we did so you guys could let the Sheiks of
Kuwait keep his bank accounts in London? Sounds like you are the one
fabricating history.
> I was talking recently with a retired chopper pilot that flew missions
> in our Asian war, the Malaysian/Borneo business that to some extent
> coincided with Vietnam. He was telling me how the Yanks were hassling
> him to get off their wavebands one day and apparently shouted ' hey
> dontcha know we're fighting a war here' to which he replied 'yes, so
are
> we, but we're winning' :)
At the time your little bushman war was going on, we were playing a
support role for the democratic Vietnamese. We were not losing it at
that point. In fact, we were never militarily losing the war, and S
Vietnam would still be free today if it wasnt for the Democrats led by
Communists like Frank Church cutting supplies and air support to them as
the lying NVA regulars renewed their attacks. Church isnt on the scene
anymore, but you can still identify them as the same ole crowd that
likes to kiss Castros ass.
> We did too!
Why? You idiots fought WWII to preserve the Brittish Empire, or so you
said, then once you won, you gave the thing away anyway! LOL! Brittan is
full of a bunch of lunatics! The gravedigger in Hamlet had you wanks
down pat. Oh, you guys dont read the Bard anymore, now do you?
RGlenCheek
rglench...@my-deja.com
Greg <ciph...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, if Texas seceeded and nationalized the missiles in the
> > state, we'd be OK. Add that to the Lockeeh Martin, Bell Helicopter,
> > and Grumman plants in the Dallas Fort Worth area alone, and we'd be
> > ok, defense-wise. Hypothetically speaking, of course. I'm not a big
> > fan of the "Republic of Texas" people. They're pretty extreme.
>
> Now how does a state nationalize the federal government's ICBMs?
The same way the Ukraine did with the Soviet missiles and fleet inside
its territory at the time they seceded.
rglench...@my-deja.com
> > On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:09:50 GMT, "atwood" <atw...@mediaone.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> > >news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > >> infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to
Texas
> > >> Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this decade.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > without sharing a national identity with the likes of YOU.
>
> We can agree on one thing, then. I've been to Texas about a dozen
times and
> never have understood why anyone would want to live there, unless
maybe
> they've got a job that pays more money than God and they're just
putting up
> with Texas for a few years until they can leave. No wonder New England
> almost left the Union in protest against the Mexican war. Who the hell
would
> want to fight for Texas?
I damned sure would. what would you fight for? Free needle exchange or
AIDS treatment?
rglench...@my-deja.com
"tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Guy Smith" <gu...@home.net> wrote in message
> news:9nG_4.4975$e5.6...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com...
> > news:y3w_4.31085$OP1.2...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> > > news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
>
> > > > It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> > > > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to
Texas
> > > > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this
decade.
> >
> > > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
> >
heart.
> > I fear that is civil rights are no equally protected, then secession
and
> > possibly civil war are the inevitable outcomes. My efforts in the
> > American control wars are in part to stop these paths.
>
> Do not talk crap,. you want to play weekend warrior and will use
> any excuse or lever on the way, whether you believe it or not.
tinybrain, have you ever been in a war? Anyone that knows anything about
it doesnt want to be back in one unless it is for damned good reason.
You are just a stupid ass, and never tire of proving it to the world.
rglench...@my-deja.com
"tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Allan Lindsay-ONeal" <ak...@citycom.com> wrote in message
> news:sjon149...@corp.supernews.com...
> > "tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:W0N_4.2120$6T1.4...@news.dircon.co.uk...
> > > news:9nG_4.4975$e5.6...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com...
>
my
> heart.
> > > > I fear that is civil rights are no equally protected, then
secession
> and
> > > > possibly civil war are the inevitable outcomes. My efforts in
the
> > > > American control wars are in part to stop these paths.
> > >
> > > Do not talk crap,. you want to play weekend warrior and will use
> > > any excuse or lever on the way, whether you believe it or not.
> >
you,
> > you'd have to stand oin your mother's shoulders just to kiss Mr
Smith's
> ass.
> >
> > Tiny, all right. Tiny brain.
>
> Unlike your predilection, I have no wish to kiss anyone's ass,
> no matter how deformed they are.
No you prefer to work from the frontside. It more fits your personality
since you suck as a human being (and I am being very generous).
rglench...@my-deja.com
"tiny" <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Thin Tornne" <tt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:393AEA8C...@hotmail.com...
> > atwood wrote:
> > > "Bob" <rkn...@aimtec.com> wrote in message
> > > news:393a8257...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
> > > > It is probably not as clear to many people as it is to me that
> > > > infringement of the right of self defense will someday lead to
Texas
> > > > Secession. I believe that day will occur sometime in this
decade.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't bother me in the least.
> >
for
> > your socialist pig programs.
>
> No need to worry, the WTO bollixed that farmer social support.
>
Well, it would still affect the drug addicted lazy asshole dole that you
are on.