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I know that listening to music from 1990 was sometimes hard, but I'm willing to give it another try

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Chris Brown

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Feb 11, 2011, 2:02:11 PM2/11/11
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OK, I've got to warn you there's a lot of SAW in the top end of this chart,
and not necessarily their finest work either. But it rubs shoulders with
some trendier dance music and pre-Britpop indie. One or two big personal
favourites of mine in here too, so be gentle with them.
Playlists here as usual. I was slightly surprsied at some of the things that
were available and some of the ones that weren't:
http://www.we7.com/user/view-playlist?playlistId=1631673&m=0
http://open.spotify.com/user/nowthats/playlist/1gIe5pg0h9umEoZ3CntT8e

Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217

01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
02. (2) Technotronic Featuring Ya Kid K - Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6xDiPubxVU
03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me
04. (4) Lonnie Gordon - Happenin' All Over Again
05.(NE) Black Box - I Don't Know Anybody Else
06. (9) Sybil - Walk On By
07. (7) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down
08. (5) Mantronix Featuring Wondress - Got To Have Your Love
09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5foZ7GcH65w
10.(19) Lisa Stansfield - Live Together
11.(10) Yell! - Instant Replay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgx89lb2pm8
12. (6) 49ers - Touch Me
13.(12) Skid Row - 18 And Life
14.(11) Del Amitri - Nothing Ever Happens
15.(18) Cher - Just Like Jesse James
16.(13) And Why Not? - The Face
17.(NE) Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence
18. (8) Halo James - Could Have Told You So
19.(24) The Beloved - Hello
20.(27) Janet Jackson - Come Back To Me
21.(32) Rod Stewart - Downtown Train
22.(NE) Michael Bolton - How Am I Supposed To Live Without You
23.(17) Gino Latino - Welcome
24.(NE) The Wedding Present - Brassneck
25.(33) Eric Clapton - Bad Love
26.(14) New Kids On The Block - Hangin' Tough {re-issue}
27.(NE) Tina Turner - Steamy Windows
28.(20) House Of Love - Shine On
29.(25) Martika - More Than You Know
30.(16) Jimmy Somerville - You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)
31.(NE) The Stranglers - 96 Tears
32.(NE) Paul McCartney - Put It There
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_5H42OahI8
33.(29) Eurythmics - The King and Queen Of America
34.(26) Quincy Jones Featuring Ray Charles And Chaka Khan - I'll Be Good To
You
35.(47) Chris Rea - Tell Me There's A Heaven
36.(21) FPI Project - Going Back To My Roots/Rich In Paradise
37.(38) Faith No More - Epic
38.(NE) Adam Ant - Room At The Top
39.(42) Renegade Soundwave - Probably A Robbery
40.(NE) Thunder - Dirty Love
41.(35) Cramps - Bikini Girls With Machine Guns
42.(22) Adamski - N-R-G
43.(NE) Ram Jam - Black Betty (Ben Liebrand Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQiMD0XL77o
44.(30) Wreckx-N-Effect - Juicy
45.(42) Lloyd Cole - No Blue Skies
46.(23) D Mob - Put Your Hands Together
47.(28) Rob 'N' Raz Featuring Leila K - Got To Get
48.(31) Raze - All 4 Love (Break 4 Love 1990)
49.(68) Jamie J Morgan - Walk On The Wild Side
50.(61) GUN - Taking On The World
51.(36) Kym Mazelle - Was That All It Was
52.(34) Soul II Soul - Get A Life
53.(53) Age Of Chance - Higher Than Heaven
54.(67) Iggy Pop - Livin' On The Edge Of The Night
55.(66) Red Hot Chili Peppers - Higher Ground
56.(55) Culture Beat - (Cherry Lips) Der Erdbeermund
57.(52) Energy Orchard - Belfast
58.(NE) Young MC - Principal's Office
59.(NE) Max Q - Sometimes
60.(49) Happy Mondays - Madchester Rave On (EP)
[Hallelujah; Holy Ghost; Clap Your Hands; Rave On]
61.(37) Quireboys - Hey You
62.(40) Megadeth - No More Mr Nice Guy
63.(48) The Alarm - Love Don't Come Easy
64.(NE) Ice-T - You Played Yourself
65.(63) Tony Scott - Get Into It/That's How I'm Living
66.(70) Midnight Oil - Blue Sky Mine
67.(65) The Stone Roses - Fool's Gold/What The World Is Waiting For
68.(NE) Baby Ford - Beach Bump
69.(43) Birdland - Sleep With Me
70.(39) Lil' Louis And The World - I Called You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJuKtNFW-_4
71.(45) Kaoma - Lambada
72.(83) Blue Aeroplanes - Jacket Hangs
73.(69) Hi-Tek 3 Featuring Ya Kid K - Spin That Wheel (Turtles Get Real)
74.(74) Jody Watley - Everything
75.(46) Jason Donovan - When You Come Back To Me
76.(62) Champion Legend And Raze - Can You Feel It
77.(57) Tribal House - Motherland A-fri-ca
78.(71) 3rd Bass - The Gas Face
79.(99) Seduction - Two To Make It Right
80.(NE) Gil Scott-Heron - Space Shuttle
81.(77) Terry, Blair And Anouchka - Ultra Modern Nursery Rhyme
82.(73) FM - Everytime I Think Of You
83.(89) Lenny Kravitz - I Build This Garden For Us
84.(87) Basia - Baby You're Mine
85.(NE) Sweet Exorcist - Test One
86.(78) Ride - Ride (EP)
[Chelsea Girl; Drive Blind; All I Can See; Close My Eyes]
87.(75) ASAP - Down The Wire
88.(NE) Rob Base - Turn It Out (Go Base)
89.(90) The Charlatans - Indian Rope
90.(NE) It Bites - Still Too Young To Remember {re-issue}
91.(NE) Lee Marrow - Pain
92.(NE) Queen B - Red Top Hot Shot
93.(NE) Man Machine - Man Machine
94.(91) Nightmares On Wax - Dextrous
95.(NE) Mafia Introducing Lisa Baron - All Night Long
96.(82) Almighty - Power
97.(NE) Galaxie 500 - The Blue Thunder EP
[Blue Thunder; Victory Garden; Ceremony; Cold Night]
98.(81) Barry Manilow - If I Can Dream
99.(NE) Nitzer Ebb - Lightning Man
100.(79)Jomanda - Don't You Want My Love

Chris
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http://nowthats.blogspot.com


Mark Goodge

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Feb 11, 2011, 4:16:24 PM2/11/11
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:02:11 -0000, Chris Brown put finger to keyboard and
typed:

>Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
>http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217

This was on the cusp of when I started to lose interest in chart music for
a while, and looking at this list I can remember why. But there are still
some good songs in here.

>01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U

Including, of course, this one. From a composition perspective, this really
is one of the all-time greats - I'd go so far as to say that, in my
opinion, it's *the* best-written pop song ever. Lyrically and musically,
it's a work of sheer genius. And Sinead O'Connor pulls off the definitive
performance of it, aided by an equally brilliant video that pulls no
emotional punches.

>03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me

Of its era, but has worn reasonably well.

>12. (6) 49ers - Touch Me

I like this now, but didn't at the time. Musically, I'm a creation of the
80s, and at the time it happened I really didn't like the dance stuff which
came to the fore at the start of the next decade and replaced my
favourites. It wasn't until several years later, in the course of an
experience one night in a large tent in Devon, that I finally "got" dance
music.

>17.(NE) Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence

One of my favourite 80s bands, this was one of their better tracks.

>38.(NE) Adam Ant - Room At The Top

Adam was mostly good while he still had the Ants. Some of their earlier
stuff is still among my personal favourites. His solo stuff was mostly
rubbish.

Mark
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Paul Hyett

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 at 19:02:11, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>
>Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
>
>01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U

Definitely one of my all time hate songs - totally puke-worthy! :(

>09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow

Oh well, at least there's *one* in this T10 I both know *and* like.

>33.(29) Eurythmics - The King and Queen Of America

Didn't know this had been a single.

>43.(NE) Ram Jam - Black Betty (Ben Liebrand Remix)

I know the original, but not this mix.

Just 4 out of 100 I know - probably just as well...
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Paul Hyett

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 at 21:16:24, Mark Goodge
<use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>
>>01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
>
>Including, of course, this one. From a composition perspective, this really
>is one of the all-time greats - I'd go so far as to say that, in my
>opinion, it's *the* best-written pop song ever. Lyrically and musically,
>it's a work of sheer genius. And Sinead O'Connor pulls off the definitive
>performance of it, aided by an equally brilliant video that pulls no
>emotional punches.
>
Just the opposite reaction from me - it is her crocodile tears that put
me right off it.

Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 at 21:16:24, Mark Goodge
> <use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
>>
>>Including, of course, this one. From a composition perspective, this
>>really
>>is one of the all-time greats - I'd go so far as to say that, in my
>>opinion, it's *the* best-written pop song ever. Lyrically and musically,
>>it's a work of sheer genius. And Sinead O'Connor pulls off the definitive
>>performance of it, aided by an equally brilliant video that pulls no
>>emotional punches.
>>
> Just the opposite reaction from me - it is her crocodile tears that put me
> right off it.

The story I've heard is that it was a genuine tear, prompted by the word
"Mama", which reminded her or her difficult relationship with her own
mother. But ultimately, it's a pop video so who cares?

Chris

Robbie

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Back in the day it used to be claimed that Sinead's performance in the
video was recorded in one take and that she became genuinely distressed
towards the end of the song. However it was later revealed that it was
done over three takes so I'm not sure how unscripted / spontaneous /
genuine that tear really was.

--
Robbie

Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 at 19:02:11, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
>>
>>01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
>
> Definitely one of my all time hate songs - totally puke-worthy! :(

Is it really the song you hate or just this version of it?

>>09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
>
> Oh well, at least there's *one* in this T10 I both know *and* like.

Are you implying that there are tracks here that you don't know but like
anyway?
If you hadn't just said otherwise that's what I'd have expected to be the
case with this one.

>>33.(29) Eurythmics - The King and Queen Of America
>
> Didn't know this had been a single.

I actually remember hearing at the time though. Well, it'd have to be from
the time, I certainly haven't heard it in the last 20 years or so.

>>43.(NE) Ram Jam - Black Betty (Ben Liebrand Remix)
>
> I know the original, but not this mix.

If you can imagine what an 80s remix of it would sound like you'd probably
be right.

> Just 4 out of 100 I know - probably just as well...

Even less if you count the EP tracks actually.

Chris

Chris Brown

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"Mark Goodge" <use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:02:11 -0000, Chris Brown put finger to keyboard and
> typed:
>
>>Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
>>http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217
>
> This was on the cusp of when I started to lose interest in chart music for
> a while, and looking at this list I can remember why. But there are still
> some good songs in here.
>
>>01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
>
> Including, of course, this one. From a composition perspective, this
> really is one of the all-time greats - I'd go so far as to say that, in my
> opinion, it's *the* best-written pop song ever. Lyrically and musically,
> it's a work of sheer genius.

Interesting that Prince himself didn't make more of it.

>And Sinead O'Connor pulls off the definitive
> performance of it, aided by an equally brilliant video that pulls no
> emotional punches.

For me personally it's a song I find easier to admire than be moved be.

>>03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me
>
> Of its era, but has worn reasonably well.

Curiously, I actually find this one more emotive than the Number One. Not so
much the song itself (the original SOS Band track does nothing for me) but
the arrangement and the performance.

>>12. (6) 49ers - Touch Me
>
> I like this now, but didn't at the time. Musically, I'm a creation of the
> 80s, and at the time it happened I really didn't like the dance stuff
> which
> came to the fore at the start of the next decade and replaced my
> favourites. It wasn't until several years later, in the course of an
> experience one night in a large tent in Devon, that I finally "got" dance
> music.

I'm enough younger that when I was a teen I saw dance music as something
that got in the way of my faves. I've largely recanted that sort of stance
as I've aged but I never really had much enthusiasm for the dancing element,
so this more nakedly commercial dance is less attractive to me than some
weightier stuff.

>>38.(NE) Adam Ant - Room At The Top
>
> Adam was mostly good while he still had the Ants. Some of their earlier
> stuff is still among my personal favourites. His solo stuff was mostly
> rubbish.

It seemed like he made a comeback every couple of years in those days, with
one moderate hit that led nowhere.

Chris

Nick

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On Feb 11, 7:02 pm, "Chris Brown" <extreme_r...@yahoospam.com> wrote:
> OK, I've got to warn you there's a lot of SAW in the top end of this chart,
> and not necessarily their finest work either. But it rubs shoulders with
> some trendier dance music and pre-Britpop indie. One or two big personal
> favourites of mine in here too, so be gentle with them.
> Playlists here as usual. I was slightly surprsied at some of the things that
> were available and some of the ones that weren't:http://www.we7.com/user/view-playlist?playlistId=1631673&m=0http://open.spotify.com/user/nowthats/playlist/1gIe5pg0h9umEoZ3CntT8e

One of those times when I was very closely following the charts, so
much so that I deliberately stayed in to listen to them most days. I
even remember listening to this very chart, if I remember right, it
was a pretty grey miserable afternoon, and, more significantly, it was
the day Nelson Mandela was released.

> Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217


>
> 01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U

I quite liked this one. Never heard the Prince original, but her
version was very atmospheric, and very evocative of the time.

> 02. (2) Technotronic Featuring Ya Kid K - Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6xDiPubxVU

Same formula as Pump Up The Jam, but with the real singer/rapper
credited this time. Like its predecessor, better for dancing to than
listening (though not bad even for the latter)

> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me

Second top 40 appearance for Norman Cook/Fatboy Slim as a dance
artist, but was never a great fan of this. It's OK but never one of my
favourites.

> 04. (4) Lonnie Gordon - Happenin' All Over Again

SAW does dance. I think at the time I had an automatic, irrational
dislike of SAW - I was just so fed up of them dominating the charts -
but a year or so later that had disappeared and I thought it was OK.

> 05.(NE) Black Box - I Don't Know Anybody Else

Follow up to Ride On Time but nowhere near as successful, though I do
remember thinking it would get to no.1 the following week. Same idea
as its predecessor really, but less good.

> 06. (9) Sybil - Walk On By

Standard dance cover from the pop star with one of the most unlikely
names ever.

> 07. (7) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down

Downbeat song from Phil Collins, then at the height of his solo
success. OK.

> 08. (5) Mantronix Featuring Wondress - Got To Have Your Love

Like Mark it took me some time to get into the dance scene. At the
time (and indeed, even now) I had a liking for 80s pop and
consequently it took me a little time to get into dance music which at
this point was quite definitively taking over the charts : the
transition from pop to dance as the dominating type of chart music
coincided almost exactly with the change of decade, though the middle
and later parts of 1990 were much less dance dominated than the early
months. Consequently I wasn't keen on this at the time - but from
about a year later I grew to like it. One of the more subtle dance
tracks of the era, an atmospheric dance track that reminds me strongly
of the time, even though I supposedly wasn't keen on it then.

> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillowhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5foZ7GcH65w

Not her best work by a long way. Not keen.

> 10.(19) Lisa Stansfield - Live Together

Was never desperately keen on Lisa Stansfield either, though I can
appreciate that she is a talented artist. Like most of her stuff, ok
but not great. Similar in style to her previous no.1 "All Around the
World", but surprisingly, a much less big hit.

> 11.(10) Yell! - Instant Replayhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgx89lb2pm8

Vaguely remember these - weren't they the latest SAW boyband?

> 12. (6) 49ers - Touch Me

I'll echo Mark's comments on this one, and my comments re. Mantronix
above, though obviously more commercial than the former. Haven't heard
this in ages, but I think my comments nowadays would be rather cheesy
but quite good all the same.

> 13.(12) Skid Row - 18 And Life

American rock band if I remember right. OK.

> 14.(11) Del Amitri - Nothing Ever Happens

Quite liked this one, atmospheric and another very reminiscent of the
time.

> 15.(18) Cher - Just Like Jesse James

One of Cher's erratic series of comeback hits in the late 80s and 90s.
Found them very variable in quality, while I like quite a few of them,
this one (amongst others) was decidedly lacking in excitement.

> 16.(13) And Why Not? - The Face

Some sort of neo-ska band if I remember right. Not bad.

> 17.(NE) Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence

Possibly my favourite in this chart, and one I still listen to
regularly now. I generally like Depeche Mode anyway but this is
particularly good, and another atmospheric track reminding me strongly
of the time. In fact it reminds me rather of going into spring, which
is hope that we haven't got much more of this god-awful winter to get
through now...
Somehow they seemed to blend in a 90s sound with this one - it seemed
to have that same vaguely new age feel that other tracks around at the
time, such as Nothing Compares to U, the Beloved, and Guru Josh's
Infinity, also had. Seems it was generally liked as it became their
biggest hit since 1984 in reaching no.6 for three weeks.

> 18. (8) Halo James - Could Have Told You So

These seemed to have the image of a boyband if I remember right but I
think they wrote their own songs and weren't anything to do with SAW.
Quite liked this one anyway. The singer seemed to sound vaguely like
Dave Gahan of, erm, Depeche Mode but the sound was much more poppy.
Was their only hit: maybe it was just too 80s to do that well in the
early 90s.

> 19.(24) The Beloved - Hello

Another of my favourite tracks from this chart, more poppy than their
previous "The Sun Rising" but still good.

> 20.(27) Janet Jackson - Come Back To Me

One of the better Janet Jackson tracks released from her current
album: the first two weren't too good but this was OK, quite an
atmospheric ballad.

> 21.(32) Rod Stewart - Downtown Train

This one I think is derided by fans of the original, but never having
heard that, I have to admit I quite like this.

> 22.(NE) Michael Bolton - How Am I Supposed To Live Without You

The debut of one of my least favourite artists of the 90s. The first
in a string of OTT, but at the same time utterly unemotional to my
ears, ballads and attempts at upbeat songs which would bother us on
and off for the next 5 years or so. A big hit in the general chart
climate of the time: while dance and, to some extent indie, tended to
dominate early 1990, there was certainly still a lot of room for this
sort of MOR boomph.

> 23.(17) Gino Latino - Welcome

Italo house track which I only vaguely remember now.

> 24.(NE) The Wedding Present - Brassneck

Was never a fan, but on this one Dave Gedge seemed particularly angry.

> 25.(33) Eric Clapton - Bad Love

Rod Stewart and now Eric Clapton amongst all the new dance and indie
acts - the early 90s were a strange mix at times. Like Rod Stewart's I
did like this one though, it did get a lot of airplay but wasn't a
huge hit.

> 26.(14) New Kids On The Block - Hangin' Tough {re-issue}

Hangin' Tough, we're rough rough rough. Right. Whatever.
Hated them with a passion anyway.

> 27.(NE) Tina Turner - Steamy Windows

Yet another 60s-debuting artist in the charts: one feature of the
early 90s was how accommodating the charts of the era were towards
older artists who had already been with us for years: indeed this is a
sharp contrast to the charts of now where you'd be hard pressed to
find someone much into their 30s, never mind approaching 50 as many of
these must have been. Not one of my favourites, though, this one,
upbeat but rather lacking in excitement.

> 28.(20) House Of Love - Shine On

1990 was supposed to be the year of indie, as well as dance, but so
far, surprisingly little. This was quite a good track, but I don't
recall many more hits from them.

> 29.(25) Martika - More Than You Know

OK pop song. I seem to remember this being an American hit almost a
year previously: during 1989 I remember our ILR station broadcast the
American Top 40 immediately before Radio 1 did the top 40, so I
remember picking up on a lot of American hits from 1989. Must have
been very, very into the charts that year to spend the whole of Sunday
afternoon listening to charts of one sort or another rather than
getting out...

> 30.(16) Jimmy Somerville - You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)

Quite a good cover of the Sylvester track though I generally like
Jimmy Somerville/Communards anyway.

> 31.(NE) The Stranglers - 96 Tears

Like their recent All Day and All Of The Night, this was a cover
though I'm not 100% sure who did the original, was it the same band
that did Radar Love?
Anyway, I liked this though it was in and out fairly quickly.

> 32.(NE) Paul McCartney - Put It Therehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_5H42OahI8

Pleasant enough McCartney track but one for the fans only, it seems,
when it performed the rare action (for those days) of dropping
straight out the week after.

> 33.(29) Eurythmics - The King and Queen Of America

Many of the Eurythmics tracks from their current album to be released
as singles were really quite good, including this one and the previous
"Don't Ask Me Why", but in the climate of the late 80s/90s they were
struggling to do well in the charts.


> 34.(26) Quincy Jones Featuring Ray Charles And Chaka Khan - I'll Be Good To
> You

OK dance track.

> 35.(47) Chris Rea - Tell Me There's A Heaven

Wasn't this about something really disturbing, like child abuse?

> 36.(21) FPI Project - Going Back To My Roots/Rich In Paradise

Cover of the Odyssey track done in Italo style, if I remember right.

> 37.(38) Faith No More - Epic

On initial release I wasn't keen but by the time it was re-released in
the autumn I grew to like this.

> 38.(NE) Adam Ant - Room At The Top

Adam Ant comeback track, not that exciting but did surprisingly well
(no.13) given that by now we were in the early 90s and his time was
almost 10 years earlier.

> 39.(42) Renegade Soundwave - Probably A Robbery

This sounded like some incompetent, hung over criminals singing
"Probably a robbery, a bit of skullduggery". Don't remember anything
else about them though!

> 40.(NE) Thunder - Dirty Love

A very standard rock act who seemed to have a surprisingly consistent
string of small hits through most of the 90s.


> 71.(45) Kaoma - Lambada


> 75.(46) Jason Donovan - When You Come Back To Me

None of this nonsense of Christmas hits hanging around until almost
Easter back then! The "new year clear-out" really did mean something
in those days with the vast majority of the chart already consisting
of songs released, or peaking, in the new year.

Nick

Robbie

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Chris Brown wrote:

> Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
> http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217

1990 was one of the two years chosen on Pick Of The Pops on Saturday
though the chart that was counted down was the chart from the week prior
to the one featured here.

> 01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U

I loved this song at the time, bought it on 7" and loved it for a long
time afterwards but due to far too much overplay it has been a long time
since I have been able to enjoy listening to this song.

> 02. (2) Technotronic Featuring Ya Kid K - Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)

Far too much like Pump Up the Jam (which I had bought) though not as
good. I do like the chorus on this one but the verses are quite forgettable.

> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me

Bought this on 12". Still quite like this one. The Clash were less than
pleased when they heard this song...

> 04. (4) Lonnie Gordon - Happenin' All Over Again

an example of a half decent SAW song though what there is that is good
about it is ruined somewhat by the "wooh" bits which were fashionable at
the time but which badly date songs from this time, as does the
production style itself.

> 05.(NE) Black Box - I Don't Know Anybody Else

An early example of a record label holding back a release to build
demand but in doing so they ended up annoying both consumers like me and
the record shops alike. I tried to buy this song at least twice only to
find out it was yet to be released and my local record shop couldn't
find out when it was supposed to be coming out and the owner told me
he'd had a few people trying to buy it. By the time it was released I'd
given up on it as much as anything else because I'd gotten fed up with
it by then, as it seems had a few more people as despite its high entry
position it only climbed one place further and was off the chart within
2 months. In all it sold just over 191,000 copies, a massive comedown
from the 850,000 sales of Ride On Time a few months earlier.

> 06. (9) Sybil - Walk On By

Had I wrote my comments on Friday I probably would have said I didn't
mind this one but after hearing POTP on Saturday I then realised how
boring and now dated it sounds.

> 07. (7) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down

Dull and dreary.

> 08. (5) Mantronix Featuring Wondress - Got To Have Your Love

Bought this on 12" but I was never a fan of the extended version,
preferring the succinct 7" mix which is excellent.

> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow

From the film "The Delinquents". Not that a good a version to be
honest, her voice sounds more nasalised than normal on this one. Kylie's
biggest selling single of the 90s, but at 245,412 it shows how much her
popularity was in decline at the time.

> 10.(19) Lisa Stansfield - Live Together

Not bad. I think I had this one on 12" but I'm not 100% sure.

> 11.(10) Yell! - Instant Replay

Dreadful. Fortunately they were one hit wonders.

> 12. (6) 49ers - Touch Me

Italo house was popular at the time and this was one of its poppier
examples. It's hard to tell whether Aretha Franklin is actually sampled
in parts of the verses or whether Alysha Warren re-recorded those bits.
Warren's own song Touch Me forms the basis of the chorus. Warren
definitely sang the parts of the verses that aren't AF related.

> 13.(12) Skid Row - 18 And Life

Hair metal was awful and so too were most of the songs sang by the
groups. This is no exception.

> 14.(11) Del Amitri - Nothing Ever Happens

This sounds like an angry song but I didn't care much for it.

> 15.(18) Cher - Just Like Jesse James

OK song.

> 16.(13) And Why Not? - The Face

Not a bad song from a long forgotten group, I quite liked all three of
their top 40 singles.

> 17.(NE) Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence

One of their best singles from one of their best albums. Magnificent.

> 18. (8) Halo James - Could Have Told You So

I remember this being on the radio quite a lot at the time. Quite a
breezy song. I remember quite liking "Wanted" their near top 40 hit that
preceded this.

> 19.(24) The Beloved - Hello

The song was a big favourite of Record Mirror but I found it a bit
annoying to be honest. After the brilliance of The Sun Rising I thought
this was something of a comedown.

> 20.(27) Janet Jackson - Come Back To Me

She achieved the feat in 1989 and 1990 of releasing a succession of
totally anonymous and forgettable sounding singles that nearly all
peaked between 15 and 23 on the chart - 6 out 7 singles she pulled from
the Rhythm Nation 1814 album with the other peaking at #34. In the US 4
out of those same 7 singles reached #1 with the others going top 5.

> 21.(32) Rod Stewart - Downtown Train

Another big radio favourite but not one of mine. Tom Waits, the
composer, wasn't very charitable about Rod, once remarking that the best
thing about a Rod Stewart record was that it kept dust off the turntable!

> 22.(NE) Michael Bolton - How Am I Supposed To Live Without You

Oh no...

> 23.(17) Gino Latino - Welcome

I think that's all he ever said in this song. Not very good.

> 24.(NE) The Wedding Present - Brassneck

Good song though not as immediate as Kennedy.

> 25.(33) Eric Clapton - Bad Love

TB played this one on POTP but I was going to say that I quite liked it
anyway but it was good to hear it again.

> 26.(14) New Kids On The Block - Hangin' Tough {re-issue}

Dreadful song

> 27.(NE) Tina Turner - Steamy Windows

Another big radio favourite at the time (both Tina and this song).
Neither did anything for me though...

> 28.(20) House Of Love - Shine On

TB played this too. It sounds like it should be good but just doesn't
get into second gear.

> 29.(25) Martika - More Than You Know

Whatever happened to Martika? Some of her singles were OK, though this
wasn't one of her best.

> 30.(16) Jimmy Somerville - You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)

As much as I like one or two of his singles, JS's voice has always
annoyed me and I the ones I like, I like despite his voice. This isn't a
patch on the Sylvester original from 1978.

> 31.(NE) The Stranglers - 96 Tears

I'm not sure if I remember this one.

> 32.(NE) Paul McCartney - Put It There

Awful

> 33.(29) Eurythmics - The King and Queen Of America

Not bad

> 34.(26) Quincy Jones Featuring Ray Charles And Chaka Khan - I'll Be Good
> To You

Very bland but this type of R&B was very successful, at least in the US,
at the time.

> 35.(47) Chris Rea - Tell Me There's A Heaven

Depressing song with a depressing but serious theme.

> 36.(21) FPI Project - Going Back To My Roots/Rich In Paradise

This had started life as a mainly instrumental song before an additional
format featuring the vocals of Sharon D. Clarke was released just before
Christmas 1989 and provided the impetus for the song to rocket up the
charts. The arrival of this additional format caused complaints from
some rival label executives who claimed it amounted to a new song, not a
new mix of a current track, and therefore sales should not have been
combined. This was one of the controversies over multi-formatting which
reached a peak in this era with several singles being available in
upwards of six formats (with some reaching double figures) that
culminated in the BPI introduce a strict four formats per chart position
rule in April 1990.

I bought this one on 12" and it was the Sharon D. Clarke version that I
owned.

> 37.(38) Faith No More - Epic

I liked this one at the time and it was re-released a few months later,
presumably to further promote the album.

> 38.(NE) Adam Ant - Room At The Top

He was almost a forgotten ex chart star by now. His first chart hit in
almost 5 years and his first top 40 hit since late October 1984. Very dull.

> 39.(42) Renegade Soundwave - Probably A Robbery

I remember hearing this on the top 40 but can't recall a thing about it.

> 40.(NE) Thunder - Dirty Love

As has been said by Nick, Thunder had consistent mid chart success
during most of the 90s. I've heard most of their hits, including this
one, but can remember very little about them.

> 43.(NE) Ram Jam - Black Betty (Ben Liebrand Remix)

I didn't mind this remix but the general consensus in the music press at
the time was that it was unnecessary

> 57.(52) Energy Orchard - Belfast

I bought this on cassette single (I still have it) from a chart return
shop so it was very cheap, 25p if I recall. Short of playing it again I
can't recall a thing about it.

> 60.(49) Happy Mondays - Madchester Rave On (EP)
> [Hallelujah; Holy Ghost; Clap Your Hands; Rave On]

> 67.(65) The Stone Roses - Fool's Gold/What The World Is Waiting For

For the era these two singles had incredibly long chart runs and I can
remember buying Record Mirror each week and going straight to the Top 75
Singles chart to see if they were both still charting. Until the last
chart in February 1990 they both were. They entered on the same chart,
25/11/89 and both spent 14 weeks on the chart. Both then hung around the
lower reaches of the Top 100 for a while. Fools Gold even re-entered the
top 75. Out of the two I prefer Fool's Gold. Sky Sports used Fool's Gold
as the theme to its Sunday football for a time in the mid 1990s,
prompting yet another chart entry for the track.

> 71.(45) Kaoma - Lambada

You couldn't escape this song in late 1989 / early 1990

> 72.(83) Blue Aeroplanes - Jacket Hangs

I bought the 7" of this song, as well as the follow up "...And Stones",
both from my local chart return shop. Needless to say both were cheap,
50p this time I think. However I can't recall a single thing about
either record!

> 73.(69) Hi-Tek 3 Featuring Ya Kid K - Spin That Wheel (Turtles Get Real)

A bit too early for the Turtle invasion...

> 82.(73) FM - Everytime I Think Of You

This track had been released the previous spring, I can remember Capital
FM playing it to death in about June 1989. It had flopped back then but
here was being re-released after FM had two minor chart entries in
August and October 1989. This single didn't really do that much either
this time around, a week at #73 inside the top 75.

> 84.(87) Basia - Baby You're Mine

The ex Matt Bianco co-vocalist. This was quite a smooth song if I recall.

> Chris


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Robbie

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"Nick" <nick1...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 7:02 pm, "Chris Brown" <extreme_r...@yahoospam.com> wrote:
> OK, I've got to warn you there's a lot of SAW in the top end of this
> chart,
> and not necessarily their finest work either. But it rubs shoulders with
> some trendier dance music and pre-Britpop indie. One or two big personal
> favourites of mine in here too, so be gentle with them.
> Playlists here as usual. I was slightly surprsied at some of the things
> that
> were available and some of the ones that
> weren't:http://www.we7.com/user/view-playlist?playlistId=1631673&m=0http://open.spotify.com/user/nowthats/playlist/1gIe5pg0h9umEoZ3CntT8e

>One of those times when I was very closely following the charts, so
>much so that I deliberately stayed in to listen to them most days. I
>even remember listening to this very chart, if I remember right, it
>was a pretty grey miserable afternoon, and, more significantly, it was
>the day Nelson Mandela was released.

I hadn't made the connection before, but you're right (assuming my maths is
correct) - the 11th of Feb.

> Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb
> 1990.http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217
>
> 01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U

>I quite liked this one. Never heard the Prince original, but her version
>was very atmospheric, and very evocative of >the time.

I'm very much open to correction on this, as there are many people who know
more about Prince than I do, but I don't think he ever made a proper
recording of this track. There is a live version on one of the Hits
compilations though.

> 02. (2) Technotronic Featuring Ya Kid K - Get Up (Before The Night Is
> Over)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6xDiPubxVU

>Same formula as Pump Up The Jam, but with the real singer/rapper
>credited this time. Like its predecessor, better for dancing to than
>listening (though not bad even for the latter)

It's the sort of thing I tend to look on more kindly now it's less
ubiquitous.

> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me

>Second top 40 appearance for Norman Cook/Fatboy Slim as a dance artist,

You're right again - I'd forgotten that 'Blame It On The Bassline' and
'Won't Talk About It' were on the same single.

>but was never a great fan of this. It's OK but never one of my
>favourites.

I'm starting to feel slightly isolated now.

> 04. (4) Lonnie Gordon - Happenin' All Over Again

>SAW does dance. I think at the time I had an automatic, irrational
>dislike of SAW - I was just so fed up of them dominating the charts -
>but a year or so later that had disappeared and I thought it was OK.

Yeah, this isn't that bad by their standards: it actually has a good chorus,
but takes far too long to get there.

> 06. (9) Sybil - Walk On By

>Standard dance cover from the pop star with one of the most unlikely names
>ever.

Right up there with Kevin Lyttle in that department.

> 07. (7) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down

>Downbeat song from Phil Collins, then at the height of his solo success.
>OK.

One of those tracks that overdoes the OKness, though - it's so calculated
and deliberate it can't make any impact at all. I often get that impression
when Eric Clapton shows up.

> 08. (5) Mantronix Featuring Wondress - Got To Have Your Love

>Like Mark it took me some time to get into the dance scene. At the
>time (and indeed, even now) I had a liking for 80s pop and
>consequently it took me a little time to get into dance music which at
>this point was quite definitively taking over the charts : the
>transition from pop to dance as the dominating type of chart music
>coincided almost exactly with the change of decade, though the middle
>and later parts of 1990 were much less dance dominated than the early
>months.

I guess there's a seasonal element to that as well.

>Consequently I wasn't keen on this at the time - but from
>about a year later I grew to like it. One of the more subtle dance
>tracks of the era, an atmospheric dance track that reminds me strongly
>of the time, even though I supposedly wasn't keen on it then.

Funny thing is, this is the one dance track I remember really liking at the
time, although I liked 'Dub Be Good To Me' as well, and prefer that one now.
Perhaps for that reason I still feel sentimentally attached to it now.

> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My
> Pillowhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5foZ7GcH65w

>Not her best work by a long way. Not keen.

Her only Number One of the 1990s though, which I suppose came in handy for
future record-setting.

> 11.(10) Yell! - Instant Replayhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgx89lb2pm8

>Vaguely remember these - weren't they the latest SAW boyband?

They were indeed, SAW presumably banking on the teen-girl audience not
knowing the original of this.

> 12. (6) 49ers - Touch Me

>I'll echo Mark's comments on this one, and my comments re. Mantronix
>above, though obviously more commercial than the former. Haven't heard
>this in ages, but I think my comments nowadays would be rather cheesy
>but quite good all the same.

I do remember hearing this at the time, and I even remember some of the more
advanced kids at my primary school making up their own words to it, but I
wouldn't have known who it was by until I had to look it up for my blog a
year or two ago.

> 14.(11) Del Amitri - Nothing Ever Happens

>Quite liked this one, atmospheric and another very reminiscent of the time.

Of course, being a Londoner this didn't entirely ring true to me even then,
but I liked the song anyway. I think Del Amitri themselves came to regret
being known mainly for it though.

> 16.(13) And Why Not? - The Face

>Some sort of neo-ska band if I remember right.


I suppose they were, although I wouldn't have known what ska was in 1990.

>Not bad.

Hasn't aged well IMO. I must say I was a bit surprised to see this on
Spotify and we7 in the first place.

> 17.(NE) Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence

>Possibly my favourite in this chart, and one I still listen to
>regularly now. I generally like Depeche Mode anyway but this is
>particularly good, and another atmospheric track reminding me strongly
>of the time.

They're one of those bands where even when I recognise one of their records
is good, I find it very difficult to like them. This is one of their best, I
admit.

>Somehow they seemed to blend in a 90s sound with this one - it seemed
>to have that same vaguely new age feel that other tracks around at the
>time, such as Nothing Compares to U, the Beloved, and Guru Josh's
>Infinity, also had.

Maybe partly because they'd influenced a lot of that music themselves.

>Seems it was generally liked as it became their biggest hit since 1984 in
>reaching no.6 for three weeks.

Yes, I'd guess this is one of their most popular with non-fans (see above,
indeed).

> 18. (8) Halo James - Could Have Told You So

>These seemed to have the image of a boyband if I remember right but I
>think they wrote their own songs and weren't anything to do with SAW.

I think falling between two stools may have been their problem there.

> 19.(24) The Beloved - Hello

>Another of my favourite tracks from this chart, more poppy than their
>previous "The Sun Rising" but still good.

I always found it really irritating and gimmicky.

> 20.(27) Janet Jackson - Come Back To Me

>One of the better Janet Jackson tracks released from her current
>album: the first two weren't too good but this was OK, quite an
>atmospheric ballad.

I don't remember it at all. Even after I listened to it I didn't remember
it.

> 21.(32) Rod Stewart - Downtown Train

>This one I think is derided by fans of the original, but never having
>heard that, I have to admit I quite like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZhW76LAnTY
But it's fair to say that the vocal style isn't for everyone. Hence the
familiar Tom Waits For No Man joke.

> 22.(NE) Michael Bolton - How Am I Supposed To Live Without You

>The debut of one of my least favourite artists of the 90s. The first
>in a string of OTT, but at the same time utterly unemotional to my
>ears, ballads and attempts at upbeat songs which would bother us on
>and off for the next 5 years or so.

I thought this sounded OK at the time. I was wrong.

> 23.(17) Gino Latino - Welcome

>Italo house track which I only vaguely remember now.

I remember him laughing at his own name.

> 24.(NE) The Wedding Present - Brassneck

>Was never a fan, but on this one Dave Gedge seemed particularly angry.

True, but I think he's mainly angry with himself.

> 28.(20) House Of Love - Shine On

>1990 was supposed to be the year of indie, as well as dance, but so
>far, surprisingly little. This was quite a good track, but I don't
>recall many more hits from them.

They only had one more Top 40 hit ('The Beatles And The Stones') although
they managed a few other Top 75s, including one during a reunion in about
2005.

> 31.(NE) The Stranglers - 96 Tears

>Like their recent All Day and All Of The Night, this was a cover
>though I'm not 100% sure who did the original, was it the same band
>that did Radar Love?

No, the original of this was by ? And The Mysterians, though many other
bands with an organ player either covered it or ripped it off.

Anyway, I liked this though it was in and out fairly quickly.

> 32.(NE) Paul McCartney - Put It
> Therehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_5H42OahI8

>Pleasant enough McCartney track but one for the fans only, it seems,
>when it performed the rare action (for those days) of dropping
>straight out the week after.

IIRC, the single before this was 'Figure Of 8', which managed to miss the
Top 40 entirely, so I suppose he must have made an extra effort to frontload
this one.

> 34.(26) Quincy Jones Featuring Ray Charles And Chaka Khan - I'll Be Good
> To
> You

>OK dance track.

I remember this strangely well. The last time Ray Charles was in the Top 40,
I think. And he offers to turn his pants upside down.

> 35.(47) Chris Rea - Tell Me There's A Heaven

>Wasn't this about something really disturbing, like child abuse?

It might have been actually. Either that or famine.

> 39.(42) Renegade Soundwave - Probably A Robbery

>This sounded like some incompetent, hung over criminals singing "Probably a
>robbery, a bit of skullduggery".

Not unlike the sort of thing Mike Skinner was doing a a decade or so
later... that even sounds like one of his rhymes.

> 40.(NE) Thunder - Dirty Love

>A very standard rock act who seemed to have a surprisingly consistent
>string of small hits through most of the 90s.

I suppose you could do that in those days.

Chris

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"Robbie" <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Chris Brown wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
>> http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217
>
> 1990 was one of the two years chosen on Pick Of The Pops on Saturday
> though the chart that was counted down was the chart from the week prior
> to the one featured here.

I can't bear to listen to PotP since Blackburn took over.

>> 01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
>
> I loved this song at the time, bought it on 7" and loved it for a long
> time afterwards but due to far too much overplay it has been a long time
> since I have been able to enjoy listening to this song.

I know what you mean.

>> 02. (2) Technotronic Featuring Ya Kid K - Get Up (Before The Night Is
>> Over)
>
> Far too much like Pump Up the Jam (which I had bought) though not as good.
> I do like the chorus on this one but the verses are quite forgettable.

You're right. I've certainly forgotten them.

>> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me
>
> Bought this on 12". Still quite like this one. The Clash were less than
> pleased when they heard this song...

I can imagine. Especially when they saw the writing credit on the single was
only to Jam & Lewis and Norman Cook. I don't know whether it's been amended
since.

>> 05.(NE) Black Box - I Don't Know Anybody Else
>
> An early example of a record label holding back a release to build demand
> but in doing so they ended up annoying both consumers like me and the
> record shops alike.

It'll never catch on.

>> 06. (9) Sybil - Walk On By
>
> Had I wrote my comments on Friday I probably would have said I didn't mind
> this one but after hearing POTP on Saturday I then realised how boring and
> now dated it sounds.

Quite lazy.

>> 07. (7) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down
>
> Dull and dreary.

It is. Interesting to compare it with the Number One, which is another very
heavily produced single but isn't so obvious about it.

>> 08. (5) Mantronix Featuring Wondress - Got To Have Your Love
>
> Bought this on 12" but I was never a fan of the extended version,
> preferring the succinct 7" mix which is excellent.

I don't think I've ever heard the long one.

>> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
>
> From the film "The Delinquents".

Which she's also in IIRC. Never saw it though.

>Not that a good a version to be honest,
> her voice sounds more nasalised than normal on this one. Kylie's biggest
> selling single of the 90s, but at 245,412 it shows how much her popularity
> was in decline at the time.

I can imagine how many of her singles sold more in the decades either side.

>> 10.(19) Lisa Stansfield - Live Together
>
> Not bad. I think I had this one on 12" but I'm not 100% sure.

Not her best single but a decent effort.

>> 12. (6) 49ers - Touch Me
>
> Italo house was popular at the time and this was one of its poppier
> examples. It's hard to tell whether Aretha Franklin is actually sampled in
> parts of the verses or whether Alysha Warren re-recorded those bits.
> Warren's own song Touch Me forms the basis of the chorus. Warren
> definitely sang the parts of the verses that aren't AF related.

It does sound suspiciously similar, but it might have changed between
pressings.

>> 16.(13) And Why Not? - The Face
>
> Not a bad song from a long forgotten group, I quite liked all three of
> their top 40 singles.

They never really got anywhere though.

>> 17.(NE) Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence
>
> One of their best singles from one of their best albums. Magnificent.

That title was just asking for trouble though.

>> 18. (8) Halo James - Could Have Told You So
>
> I remember this being on the radio quite a lot at the time. Quite a breezy
> song.

You can hear the production effort that went into making it hit-friendly.
One of them co-wrote 'Smooth Operator'.

>> 21.(32) Rod Stewart - Downtown Train
>
> Another big radio favourite but not one of mine.

Far too slow for my 11-yo self but I don't mind it now.

>Tom Waits, the composer,
> wasn't very charitable about Rod, once remarking that the best thing about
> a Rod Stewart record was that it kept dust off the turntable!

And kept the wolf from his door, too I should think. He covered a good few
Waits songs over the years.

>> 24.(NE) The Wedding Present - Brassneck
>
> Good song though not as immediate as Kennedy.

Much more typical of their style though, particularly the lyric.

>> 25.(33) Eric Clapton - Bad Love
>
> TB played this one on POTP but I was going to say that I quite liked it
> anyway but it was good to hear it again.

I do quite like the riff, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with
the rest of the song.

>> 26.(14) New Kids On The Block - Hangin' Tough {re-issue}
>
> Dreadful song

Not worth releasing twice. Or even once, really.

>> 28.(20) House Of Love - Shine On
>
> TB played this too. It sounds like it should be good but just doesn't get
> into second gear.

I do quite like it now, but I don't really think it (or their material
generally) lives up to the hype.

>> 29.(25) Martika - More Than You Know
>
> Whatever happened to Martika? Some of her singles were OK, though this
> wasn't one of her best.

Not one she's remembered for.

>> 31.(NE) The Stranglers - 96 Tears
>
> I'm not sure if I remember this one.

If you know the original, you can probably guess what a version by a
slightly past their peak Stranglers would sound like. Their last new single
to go Top 40 in the century, IIRC.

>> 32.(NE) Paul McCartney - Put It There
>
> Awful

I don't mind it actually.

>> 34.(26) Quincy Jones Featuring Ray Charles And Chaka Khan - I'll Be Good
>> To You
>
> Very bland but this type of R&B was very successful, at least in the US,
> at the time.

I think Ray Charles makes it work.

>> 36.(21) FPI Project - Going Back To My Roots/Rich In Paradise
>
> This had started life as a mainly instrumental song before an additional
> format featuring the vocals of Sharon D. Clarke was released just before
> Christmas 1989 and provided the impetus for the song to rocket up the
> charts. The arrival of this additional format caused complaints from some
> rival label executives who claimed it amounted to a new song, not a new
> mix of a current track, and therefore sales should not have been combined.
> This was one of the controversies over multi-formatting which reached a
> peak in this era with several singles being available in upwards of six
> formats (with some reaching double figures) that culminated in the BPI
> introduce a strict four formats per chart position rule in April 1990.

Indeed I remember hearing some radio show do a shock expose of how many
formats of the Halo James single there were. Maybe that's why their career
never recovered.

>> 40.(NE) Thunder - Dirty Love
>
> As has been said by Nick, Thunder had consistent mid chart success during
> most of the 90s. I've heard most of their hits, including this one, but
> can remember very little about them.

I did check it wasn't a cover of the Motorhead B-side.

>> 43.(NE) Ram Jam - Black Betty (Ben Liebrand Remix)
>
> I didn't mind this remix but the general consensus in the music press at
> the time was that it was unnecessary

I vaguely recall it as the follow-up to his remix of 'Eve Of The War'
somehow.

>> 71.(45) Kaoma - Lambada
>
> You couldn't escape this song in late 1989 / early 1990

Sadly not.

>> 72.(83) Blue Aeroplanes - Jacket Hangs
>
> I bought the 7" of this song, as well as the follow up "...And Stones",
> both from my local chart return shop. Needless to say both were cheap, 50p
> this time I think.

And they were their only two Top 75 hits.

>> 84.(87) Basia - Baby You're Mine
>
> The ex Matt Bianco co-vocalist. This was quite a smooth song if I recall.

Yes, not bad actually.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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>

>>> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
>>
>> From the film "The Delinquents".
>
>Which she's also in IIRC. Never saw it though.

You see a very different 'Kylie' in it - angry, brooding, and she even
gets to hit someone! Not to mention very brief nudity. :)


>
>>Not that a good a version to be honest,
>> her voice sounds more nasalised than normal on this one. Kylie's biggest
>> selling single of the 90s, but at 245,412 it shows how much her popularity
>> was in decline at the time.

Or in singles sales generally, since this 8was* a #1, after all...


>
>I can imagine how many of her singles sold more in the decades either side.

Thanks to the OCC's strict control of sales info, imagining is all we
*can* do. :(

Robbie

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Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 at 00:33:07, Chris Brown
> <extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
>>>
>>> From the film "The Delinquents".
>>
>> Which she's also in IIRC. Never saw it though.
>
> You see a very different 'Kylie' in it - angry, brooding, and she even
> gets to hit someone! Not to mention very brief nudity. :)

If Kylie was nude I'd imagine there wasn't really a great deal to see!

>>
>>> Not that a good a version to be honest,
>>> her voice sounds more nasalised than normal on this one. Kylie's biggest
>>> selling single of the 90s, but at 245,412 it shows how much her
>>> popularity
>>> was in decline at the time.
>
> Or in singles sales generally, since this 8was* a #1, after all...

Though it was #1 in a very low sales period though, January 1990 was a
very poor month for sales and it took Nothing Compares 2 U to kick start
things.

>>
>> I can imagine how many of her singles sold more in the decades either
>> side.
>
> Thanks to the OCC's strict control of sales info, imagining is all we
> *can* do. :(

The information is out there... there are end of year sales charts (with
sales) for 1988, 1989, 2000, 2001 etc.

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Robbie

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Chris Brown wrote:
>
> "Robbie" <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8rvm9b...@mid.individual.net...

>> 1990 was one of the two years chosen on Pick Of The Pops on Saturday


>> though the chart that was counted down was the chart from the week prior
>> to the one featured here.
>
> I can't bear to listen to PotP since Blackburn took over.

I couldn't bear to listen to Dale Winton and do prefer TB. That said, I
think TB is trying too much to make the whole programme sound a bit too
cheesy. Also he talks a little too much for my liking but that is
possibly due to the programme now being live rather than voice trackedm
with TB reading out emails which I'd rather he didn't.


>>> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me
>>
>> Bought this on 12". Still quite like this one. The Clash were less than
>> pleased when they heard this song...
>
> I can imagine. Especially when they saw the writing credit on the single
> was
> only to Jam & Lewis and Norman Cook. I don't know whether it's been
> amended
> since.

The last I saw it still had the same credits.

>>> 07. (7) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down
>>
>> Dull and dreary.
>
> It is. Interesting to compare it with the Number One, which is another very
> heavily produced single but isn't so obvious about it.

The production on NC2U sounds understated whereas on Collin's track it
is overbearing.

>
>>> 08. (5) Mantronix Featuring Wondress - Got To Have Your Love
>>
>> Bought this on 12" but I was never a fan of the extended version,
>> preferring the succinct 7" mix which is excellent.
>
> I don't think I've ever heard the long one.

It's almost twice the length with a long instrumental middle broken only
by a dull rap. I remember being very disappointed by it when I played
the 12" for the first time.

>>> 31.(NE) The Stranglers - 96 Tears
>>
>> I'm not sure if I remember this one.
>
> If you know the original, you can probably guess what a version by a
> slightly past their peak Stranglers would sound like. Their last new
> single to go Top 40 in the century, IIRC.

I would have said The Stranglers were more than slightly passed their
peak a decade earlier!


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Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 at 00:33:07, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
>>>
>>> From the film "The Delinquents".
>>
>>Which she's also in IIRC. Never saw it though.
>
> You see a very different 'Kylie' in it - angry, brooding, and she even
> gets to hit someone! Not to mention very brief nudity. :)

I'm surprised you left that for last.

>>>Not that a good a version to be honest,
>>> her voice sounds more nasalised than normal on this one. Kylie's biggest
>>> selling single of the 90s, but at 245,412 it shows how much her
>>> popularity
>>> was in decline at the time.
>
> Or in singles sales generally, since this 8was* a #1, after all...

True, but singles sales rallied in the mid-late 90s. Kylie's career not so
much.

>>I can imagine how many of her singles sold more in the decades either
>>side.
>
> Thanks to the OCC's strict control of sales info, imagining is all we
> *can* do. :(

Not really, I think most of her big-selling singles are fairly
well-documented. I know this isn't her smallest-selling Number One.

Chris

Chris Brown

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"Robbie" <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Chris Brown wrote:
>>
>> "Robbie" <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8rvm9b...@mid.individual.net...
>
>>> 1990 was one of the two years chosen on Pick Of The Pops on Saturday
>>> though the chart that was counted down was the chart from the week prior
>>> to the one featured here.
>>
>> I can't bear to listen to PotP since Blackburn took over.
>
> I couldn't bear to listen to Dale Winton and do prefer TB. That said, I
> think TB is trying too much to make the whole programme sound a bit too
> cheesy.

Yes, I don't really have a lot of time for either of them as presenters but
at least Dale was easier to ignore.

>Also he talks a little too much for my liking but that is possibly
> due to the programme now being live rather than voice trackedm with TB
> reading out emails which I'd rather he didn't.

Yes, that seems to copy the worst parts of the format of the current chart.

>>>> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me
>>>
>>> Bought this on 12". Still quite like this one. The Clash were less than
>>> pleased when they heard this song...
>>
>> I can imagine. Especially when they saw the writing credit on the single
>> was
>> only to Jam & Lewis and Norman Cook. I don't know whether it's been
>> amended
>> since.
>
> The last I saw it still had the same credits.

That's not entirely surprising, I suppose. Oddly the B-side seems to have no
writing credit at all.

I don't know whether the Clash approved the release of 'Return To Brixton',
which was presumably intended to cash in on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mlkW2Ev1KU

>>>> 07. (7) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down
>>>
>>> Dull and dreary.
>>
>> It is. Interesting to compare it with the Number One, which is another
>> very
>> heavily produced single but isn't so obvious about it.
>
> The production on NC2U sounds understated whereas on Collin's track it is
> overbearing.

But I'm sure Nellee Hooper put just as much effort in, and there is that big
orchestra.

>>>> 08. (5) Mantronix Featuring Wondress - Got To Have Your Love
>>>
>>> Bought this on 12" but I was never a fan of the extended version,
>>> preferring the succinct 7" mix which is excellent.
>>
>> I don't think I've ever heard the long one.
>
> It's almost twice the length with a long instrumental middle broken only
> by a dull rap. I remember being very disappointed by it when I played the
> 12" for the first time.

Glad I stuck to the radio edit then.
There is a Steve Silk Hurley mix that's a bit more different, if you like
that sort of sound.

>>>> 31.(NE) The Stranglers - 96 Tears
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if I remember this one.
>>
>> If you know the original, you can probably guess what a version by a
>> slightly past their peak Stranglers would sound like. Their last new
>> single to go Top 40 in the century, IIRC.
>
> I would have said The Stranglers were more than slightly passed their peak
> a decade earlier!

So would I really, but they miust have known this song backwards so it
didn't come out too bad.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 at 18:57:26, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
>>>>
>>>> From the film "The Delinquents".
>>>
>>>Which she's also in IIRC. Never saw it though.
>>
>> You see a very different 'Kylie' in it - angry, brooding, and she even
>> gets to hit someone! Not to mention very brief nudity. :)
>
>I'm surprised you left that for last.

Grin.


>
>>>>Not that a good a version to be honest,
>>>> her voice sounds more nasalised than normal on this one. Kylie's biggest
>>>> selling single of the 90s, but at 245,412 it shows how much her
>>>> popularity
>>>> was in decline at the time.
>>
>> Or in singles sales generally, since this 8was* a #1, after all...
>
>True, but singles sales rallied in the mid-late 90s. Kylie's career not
>so much.

It did several years after that, though!


>
>>>I can imagine how many of her singles sold more in the decades either
>>>side.
>>
>> Thanks to the OCC's strict control of sales info, imagining is all we
>> *can* do. :(
>
>Not really, I think most of her big-selling singles are fairly
>well-documented. I know this isn't her smallest-selling Number One.

Presumably that would be 'Slow'?

Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 at 18:57:26, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>>> 09. (3) Kylie Minogue - Tears On My Pillow
>>>>>
>>>>> From the film "The Delinquents".
>>>>
>>>>Which she's also in IIRC. Never saw it though.
>>>
>>> You see a very different 'Kylie' in it - angry, brooding, and she even
>>> gets to hit someone! Not to mention very brief nudity. :)
>>
>>I'm surprised you left that for last.
>
> Grin.

I do sort of remember some tabloid fuss about it. Not surprising at that
time in her career.

>>>>>Not that a good a version to be honest,
>>>>> her voice sounds more nasalised than normal on this one. Kylie's
>>>>> biggest
>>>>> selling single of the 90s, but at 245,412 it shows how much her
>>>>> popularity
>>>>> was in decline at the time.
>>>
>>> Or in singles sales generally, since this 8was* a #1, after all...
>>
>>True, but singles sales rallied in the mid-late 90s. Kylie's career not so
>>much.
>
> It did several years after that, though!

Indeed, but not during that decade.

>>>>I can imagine how many of her singles sold more in the decades either
>>>>side.
>>>
>>> Thanks to the OCC's strict control of sales info, imagining is all we
>>> *can* do. :(
>>
>>Not really, I think most of her big-selling singles are fairly
>>well-documented. I know this isn't her smallest-selling Number One.
>
> Presumably that would be 'Slow'?

Yes - at the time it was reckoned to be the smallest-selling of all.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 at 20:15:34, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>

>>>Not really, I think most of her big-selling singles are fairly
>>>well-documented. I know this isn't her smallest-selling Number One.
>>
>> Presumably that would be 'Slow'?
>
>Yes - at the time it was reckoned to be the smallest-selling of all.

Less than that Iron Maiden one?

Robbie

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Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 at 20:15:34, Chris Brown
> <extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>> Not really, I think most of her big-selling singles are fairly
>>>> well-documented. I know this isn't her smallest-selling Number One.
>>>
>>> Presumably that would be 'Slow'?
>>
>> Yes - at the time it was reckoned to be the smallest-selling of all.
>
> Less than that Iron Maiden one?

I'd imagine Slow outsold Bring Your Daughter though probably not by a
great deal.

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Col

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Some of the no.1s from the very early years of the chart, before even
the rock 'n' roll era must have had very small sales though. People
still bought a lot of sheet music and not so many records.
Would be impossible to find accurate figures though.
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> Robbie wrote:
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 at 20:15:34, Chris Brown
>>> <extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really, I think most of her big-selling singles are fairly
>>>>>> well-documented. I know this isn't her smallest-selling Number
>>>>>> One.
>>>>>
>>>>> Presumably that would be 'Slow'?
>>>>
>>>> Yes - at the time it was reckoned to be the smallest-selling of all.
>>>
>>> Less than that Iron Maiden one?
>>
>> I'd imagine Slow outsold Bring Your Daughter though probably not by a
>> great deal.

FWIW, wiki suggests a sale of only 43k for 'Slow', although that does seem a
bit too low-especially since it goes on to say "and to date is one of the
lowest-selling number-one singles in UK chart history second only to George
Michael's "Faith"," which is wrong in at least two other ways.
'Bring Your Daughter' seems to have done about 100k in total, if only
because it was available on more formats.

> Some of the no.1s from the very early years of the chart, before even
> the rock 'n' roll era must have had very small sales though. People
> still bought a lot of sheet music and not so many records.
> Would be impossible to find accurate figures though.

Indeed, AFAIK there aren't many meaningful sales figures before 1960 and
even ones from the rest of that decade are a bit dicey.

Chris

Robbie

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Chris Brown wrote:
>
> "Col" <reddw...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:BIudnVKmSf0VaP3Q...@bt.com...
>> Robbie wrote:
>>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 at 20:15:34, Chris Brown
>>>> <extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not really, I think most of her big-selling singles are fairly
>>>>>>> well-documented. I know this isn't her smallest-selling Number
>>>>>>> One.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably that would be 'Slow'?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes - at the time it was reckoned to be the smallest-selling of all.
>>>>
>>>> Less than that Iron Maiden one?
>>>
>>> I'd imagine Slow outsold Bring Your Daughter though probably not by a
>>> great deal.
>
> FWIW, wiki suggests a sale of only 43k for 'Slow', although that does
> seem a bit too low-especially since it goes on to say "and to date is
> one of the lowest-selling number-one singles in UK chart history second
> only to George Michael's "Faith"," which is wrong in at least two other
> ways.
> 'Bring Your Daughter' seems to have done about 100k in total, if only
> because it was available on more formats.

Good old Wiki!

Slow sold 43,291 copies the week it was at #1 and had sold about 90,000
copies in the year end chart where it was the 74th biggest seller of the
year. I doubt it sold an awful lot more back then so it would be pretty
close to Bring Your Daughter.

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Paul Hyett

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 at 12:47:00, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>

>>> I'd imagine Slow outsold Bring Your Daughter though probably not by a
>>> great deal.
>
>FWIW, wiki suggests a sale of only 43k for 'Slow', although that does
>seem a bit too low-especially since it goes on to say "and to date is
>one of the lowest-selling number-one singles in UK chart history second
>only to George Michael's "Faith"," which is wrong in at least two other
>ways.

That figure for 'Slow' was its first week sales only.

Paul Hyett

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 at 16:43:21, Robbie <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote
in uk.music.charts :

>
>Good old Wiki!
>
>Slow sold 43,291 copies the week it was at #1 and had sold about 90,000
>copies in the year end chart where it was the 74th biggest seller of
>the year. I doubt it sold an awful lot more back then so it would be
>pretty close to Bring Your Daughter.

Though even a mere 50 copies a week over the last 4 years would have
taken it past 100k...

Jan Buxton

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On 11/02/2011 19:02, Chris Brown wrote:
> OK, I've got to warn you there's a lot of SAW in the top end of this
> chart, and not necessarily their finest work either. But it rubs
> shoulders with some trendier dance music and pre-Britpop indie. One or
> two big personal favourites of mine in here too, so be gentle with them.
> Playlists here as usual. I was slightly surprsied at some of the things
> that were available and some of the ones that weren't:
> http://www.we7.com/user/view-playlist?playlistId=1631673&m=0
> http://open.spotify.com/user/nowthats/playlist/1gIe5pg0h9umEoZ3CntT8e
>
> Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
> http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217
>
> 01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U

Great song.

> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me

Very good.

> 14.(11) Del Amitri - Nothing Ever Happens

Really good song. Much better than I remembered.

> 17.(NE) Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence

Really like this, very good.

> 24.(NE) The Wedding Present - Brassneck

One of the better Wedding Present tracks I've heard, still not blown
away though.

> 37.(38) Faith No More - Epic

OK, good chorus.

> 67.(65) The Stone Roses - Fool's Gold/What The World Is Waiting For

Great. Own them on Turns Into Stone.

> 89.(90) The Charlatans - Indian Rope

Decent song, got better and better as it progressed.

> 97.(NE) Galaxie 500 - The Blue Thunder EP
> [Blue Thunder; Victory Garden; Ceremony; Cold Night]

Know them vaguely through Hefner covering Oblivious for a Galaxie 500
tribute album. This is pretty good.

--
Jan

Chris Brown

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"Jan Buxton" <ja...@eidosnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 11/02/2011 19:02, Chris Brown wrote:
>> Thanks to Chartstats. Chart dated 17th Feb 1990.
>> http://www.chartstats.com/chart.php?week=19900217
>>
>> 01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
>
> Great song.

I am coming round to it, I must admit.

>> 03.(15) Beats International Featuring Lindy Layton - Dub Be Good To Me
>
> Very good.

Agreed.

>> 14.(11) Del Amitri - Nothing Ever Happens
>
> Really good song. Much better than I remembered.

A bit darker than I suppose some people realised at the time.

>> 24.(NE) The Wedding Present - Brassneck
>
> One of the better Wedding Present tracks I've heard, still not blown away
> though.

It's a grower.
And you might be the one person here who'd be interested to know that this
is AFAIK Steve Albini's first appearance on a Top 40 hit.

>> 37.(38) Faith No More - Epic
>
> OK, good chorus.

I can't remember the rest of it though.

>> 89.(90) The Charlatans - Indian Rope
>
> Decent song, got better and better as it progressed.

Yeah, it's as if they get a bit more confident during the song. They sound
scared of the microphones on one of the B-sides.

It gains a lot from the remaster too, my 1991 CD single of it is even
vaguer.

>> 97.(NE) Galaxie 500 - The Blue Thunder EP
>> [Blue Thunder; Victory Garden; Ceremony; Cold Night]
>
> Know them vaguely through Hefner covering Oblivious for a Galaxie 500
> tribute album. This is pretty good.

Not bad, but I don't think he has as good a voice as Darren Hayman.
Nonetheless I did like having all these obscure indie acts in the same
chart.
You'll doubtless have spotted that the third track on the EP was a Joy
Division/New Order cover.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 at 16:03:17, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>

>>> 01. (1) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
>>
>> Great song.
>
>I am coming round to it.

Me too, since it puts me into a coma. :p

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