Coming out

[Justin Thyme]

I shall come out tomorrow.
--
Sorrow in all lands, and grievous omens.
Great anger in the dragon of the hills,
And silent now the earth's green oracles
That will not speak again of innocence.
David Sutton -- Geomancies

[Ralph B]

Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I shall come out tomorrow.

If you say you're coming out tomorrow, aren't you effectively coming out
today?

[Justin Thyme]

Consider: 'I shall come out to play tomorrow'.

[Derek Turner]

On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 19:22:25 +0000, Justin Thyme wrote:

> I shall come out tomorrow.

Enjoy your débutantes' ball. Give my love to her Maj.

[Ralph B]

Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Ralph B wrote:
>> Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> I shall come out tomorrow.
>>
>> If you say you're coming out tomorrow, aren't you effectively coming out
>> today?
>>
> Consider: 'I shall come out to play tomorrow'.

OK, so you might not come out of the closet tomorrow, but we now know that
you are in the closet.

[Justin Thyme]

Ralph B wrote:
> Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Ralph B wrote:
>>> Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> I shall come out tomorrow.
>>>
>>> If you say you're coming out tomorrow, aren't you effectively coming out
>>> today?
>>>
>> Consider: 'I shall come out to play tomorrow'.
>
> OK, so you might not come out of the closet tomorrow, but we now know that
> you are in the closet.

Closets have nothing to do with it. Consider the following:

The door bell rings and I open the door. A friend stands
outside and says: "Can you come out to play?" I reply:
"I'm washing my hair today. I shall come out tomorrow."

That is a perfectly idiomatically use of the sentence "I shall come out
tomorrow", isn't it? No closets and no coming out today, er... yesterday.

[Sid Nuncius]

On 02/02/2015 10:30, Justin Thyme wrote:
> Ralph B wrote:
>> Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> Ralph B wrote:
>>>> Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> I shall come out tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> If you say you're coming out tomorrow, aren't you effectively coming
>>>> out
>>>> today?
>>>>
>>> Consider: 'I shall come out to play tomorrow'.
>>
>> OK, so you might not come out of the closet tomorrow, but we now know
>> that
>> you are in the closet.
>
> Closets have nothing to do with it. Consider the following:
>
> The door bell rings and I open the door. A friend stands
> outside and says: "Can you come out to play?" I reply:
> "I'm washing my hair today. I shall come out tomorrow."
>
> That is a perfectly idiomatically use of the sentence "I shall come out
> tomorrow", isn't it? No closets and no coming out today, er... yesterday.
>

Er...have I missed some profound point to this thread, or is it just
gratuitous smart-arsery?

--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

[LFS]

The latter. FTAYP.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

[krw]

On 2/2/15 11:21, LFS wrote; my response is lower down:

FTAYP? Whoosh.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.wordpress.com
http://tiny.cc/KRWpics

[Syd Rumpo]

On 02/02/2015 11:15, Sid Nuncius wrote:

Just another boring kipper-alike shocked and distraught about political
correctness gone mad.

Some people enjoy being hard done by, but are cursed by nothing much to
complain about, so they're forced to invent things like how you're 'not
allowed' to say 'queer' any more, but it's double standards because they
use the word themselves and... (continued page 94)

Cheers
--
Syd

[Justin Thyme]

No, there is none to be missed. Please direct me to those threads in
which profound points are made.

> or is it just
> gratuitous smart-arsery?
>


--

[Sid Nuncius]

On 02/02/2015 13:37, Justin Thyme wrote:

> Sid Nuncius wrote:

>> Er...have I missed some profound point to this thread,
>
> No, there is none to be missed. Please direct me to those threads in
> which profound points are made.

YA Peter Perceval (?Percival) AICM5 kill-files.

[Justin Thyme]

Sid Nuncius wrote:
> On 02/02/2015 13:37, Justin Thyme wrote:
>> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>
>>> Er...have I missed some profound point to this thread,
>>
>> No, there is none to be missed. Please direct me to those threads in
>> which profound points are made.
>
> YA Peter Perceval (?Percival) AICM5 kill-files.

I had forgotten that this newsgroup is your private fiefdom. But I'll
tell you what, Starry, if you give your real name, I'll give mine.
Either that or please direct me etc, etc.

[john ashby]

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:38:35 +0000, Justin Thyme wrote:

> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>> On 02/02/2015 13:37, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>
>>>> Er...have I missed some profound point to this thread,
>>>
>>> No, there is none to be missed. Please direct me to those threads in
>>> which profound points are made.
>>
>> YA Peter Perceval (?Percival) AICM5 kill-files.
>
> I had forgotten that this newsgroup is your private fiefdom. But I'll
> tell you what, Starry, if you give your real name, I'll give mine.
> Either that or please direct me etc, etc.

Nobody has suggested that Peter Percival (or Justin Thyme, or any other
appellation that might spring to mind) is your real name, merely that you
are the person who used to post here under the name of Peter Percival, a
conclusion I had reached myself at about the same time as Sid Nunc. If
you are not he (or she), feel free to disabuse of our notions. If you are
she (or he), then do not be surprised to be treated as an identity
changing troll.

HTH, HAND,

john (who always has posted and always will post under his own name)

[Justin Thyme]

I know that you and many others have always despised me because I don't
have the intelligence and verbal abilities that the rest of you do.

[Rosalind Mitchell]

Justin Thyme <Justi...@nowhere.com> writes:

> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>> On 02/02/2015 13:37, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>
>>>> Er...have I missed some profound point to this thread,
>>>
>>> No, there is none to be missed. Please direct me to those threads in
>>> which profound points are made.
>>
>> YA Peter Perceval (?Percival) AICM5 kill-files.
>
> I had forgotten that this newsgroup is your private fiefdom. But I'll
> tell you what, Starry, if you give your real name, I'll give
> mine. Either that or please direct me etc, etc.

If you want to make yourself useful, get that rickety bridge fixed
before somebody has an accident.

Roslg

[john ashby]

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:27:21 +0000, Justin Thyme wrote:

> john ashby wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:38:35 +0000, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>
>>> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>> On 02/02/2015 13:37, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>>>> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Er...have I missed some profound point to this thread,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, there is none to be missed. Please direct me to those threads
>>>>> in which profound points are made.
>>>>
>>>> YA Peter Perceval (?Percival) AICM5 kill-files.
>>>
>>> I had forgotten that this newsgroup is your private fiefdom. But I'll
>>> tell you what, Starry, if you give your real name, I'll give mine.
>>> Either that or please direct me etc, etc.
>>
>> Nobody has suggested that Peter Percival (or Justin Thyme, or any other
>> appellation that might spring to mind) is your real name, merely that
>> you are the person who used to post here under the name of Peter
>> Percival, a conclusion I had reached myself at about the same time as
>> Sid Nunc. If you are not he (or she), feel free to disabuse of our
>> notions. If you are she (or he), then do not be surprised to be treated
>> as an identity changing troll.
>>
>> HTH, HAND,
>>
>> john (who always has posted and always will post under his own name)
>
> I know that you and many others have always despised me because I don't
> have the intelligence and verbal abilities that the rest of you do.

Please don't tell us why we despise you.

john

[BrritSki]

On 02/02/2015 17:38, Justin Thyme wrote:
> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>> On 02/02/2015 13:37, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>> Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>
>>>> Er...have I missed some profound point to this thread,
>>>
>>> No, there is none to be missed. Please direct me to those threads in
>>> which profound points are made.
>>
>> YA Peter Perceval (?Percival) AICM5 kill-files.
>
> I had forgotten that this newsgroup is your private fiefdom. But I'll
> tell you what, Starry, if you give your real name, I'll give mine.
> Either that or please direct me etc, etc.
>

Back in the KF PP.

[LFS]

It's been obvious for some time in a.u.e. I'm not bothered about
nomenclature, the content of posts is more important. I understand that
some people have an unmet need to stir up fights and turn to newsgroups
for that purpose. But others are not required to rise to the
provocation. I know it's sometimes difficult to resist but it does tend
to make for an unpleasant atmosphere in the end.

It's very much like dealing with toddler tantrums.

[Sid Nuncius]

I'll do whatever I like in my private fiefdom, thank you. :o)

Seriously, you're right of course, and my apologies for any nutritious
material I have provided in my slowness in spotting the trollery.

[BrritSki]

BTW David, his real name is Frederick Williams afaik.

[Btms]

Oooah Noah it is far worse. More like dealing with the b-I-l's tantrums!
Far far worse since he was diagnosed a diabetic.
--
Editor in Waiting and Btms

[LFS]

You never met my toddler. The terrible twos lasted for more than 15
years in our house. He's lovely now, though.

[Justin Thyme]

BrritSki wrote:

> BTW David, his real name is Frederick Williams afaik.

Perhaps you'd like to out all the other users of noms de guerre in the
newsgroup.

[Syd Rumpo]

On 03/02/2015 16:51, Justin Thyme wrote:
> BrritSki wrote:
>
>> BTW David, his real name is Frederick Williams afaik.
>
> Perhaps you'd like to out all the other users of noms de guerre in the
> newsgroup.

Yes, I was taken aback too. Why would anyone do that?

Cheers
--
Syd

[BrritSki]

Trolls deserve all they get. If you want to play nice I don't care what
name you use. And before anyone starts, my real name is in every post I
make here and elsewhere...

[Justin Thyme]

BrritSki wrote:
> On 03/02/2015 22:30, Syd Rumpo wrote:
>> On 03/02/2015 16:51, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>> BrritSki wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW David, his real name is Frederick Williams afaik.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you'd like to out all the other users of noms de guerre in the
>>> newsgroup.
>>
>> Yes, I was taken aback too. Why would anyone do that?
>>
> Trolls deserve all they get.

By troll you mean someone who utters opinions you don't agree with?

> If you want to play nice I don't care what
> name you use. And before anyone starts, my real name is in every post I
> make here and elsewhere...
>
>

[Steve Hague]

On 04/02/2015 13:45, Justin Thyme wrote:
> BrritSki wrote:
>> On 03/02/2015 22:30, Syd Rumpo wrote:
>>> On 03/02/2015 16:51, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>>> BrritSki wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BTW David, his real name is Frederick Williams afaik.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you'd like to out all the other users of noms de guerre in the
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Yes, I was taken aback too. Why would anyone do that?
>>>
>> Trolls deserve all they get.
>
> By troll you mean someone who utters opinions you don't agree with?
>
>> If you want to play nice I don't care what
>> name you use. And before anyone starts, my real name is in every post I
>> make here and elsewhere...
>>
>>
>
>

It's a bit odd when someone keeps changing their ng name. You were
Frederick Williams, then Peter Percival and now you're Justin Thyme. Is
someone stalking you?
Steve Hague, who will never reveal his middle name to anyone. Unless
they ask of course.

[krw]

On 4/2/15 16:30, Steve Hague wrote; my response is lower down:

Some of us prefer to use our middle name of course.

[Justin Thyme]

Steve Hague wrote:

> someone stalking you?

yes

[BrritSki]

On 04/02/2015 17:30, Steve Hague wrote:
> On 04/02/2015 13:45, Justin Thyme wrote:
>> BrritSki wrote:
>>> On 03/02/2015 22:30, Syd Rumpo wrote:
>>>> On 03/02/2015 16:51, Justin Thyme wrote:
>>>>> BrritSki wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW David, his real name is Frederick Williams afaik.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps you'd like to out all the other users of noms de guerre in the
>>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I was taken aback too. Why would anyone do that?
>>>>
>>> Trolls deserve all they get.
>>
>> By troll you mean someone who utters opinions you don't agree with?

No. There are lots of people here who post opinions that I don't agree
with, but they express them with grace and cinsideration usually and
genuinely hold those views rather than throwing them out for effect like
you do i.e. trolling.

You have every right to do whatever you like here as long as it's legal
(which afaiac it is), but I also have the right to consider it trolling
and to ignore you. The only reason I'm not this time is that I saw your
comment on Steve's reply. I won't be replying to you again.

[Sid Nuncius]

<languid wave>

[Robin Fairbairns]

some of us don't have one.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

[Sam Plusnet]

In article <qfiofct...@dev-rf10-linux.cl.cam.ac.uk>, rf10
@cl.cam.ac.uk says...

>
> krw <richard....@Tesco.net> writes:
>

> >
> > Some of us prefer to use our middle name of course.
>
> some of us don't have one.

I hear you Brother!

Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
syndrome".

--
Sam

[Jack Campin]

> Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
> syndrome".

In Turkish there is a name sometimes given to sons after around
the fifth one - "Dursun".

It means "let it stop".

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[carolet]

Some of us eldest children suffer from full blown Infant-naming Fatigue
syndrome.

In fact, my parents never really came up with any names for me. I'm told
that as they had no ideas at all about what I should be called, the
nurses/midwives/whatever started calling me by a suitably seasonal name,
and they just went along with it.



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[Robin Fairbairns]

Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> writes:

> rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk says...

>
>> krw <richard....@Tesco.net> writes:
>>
>> > Some of us prefer to use our middle name of course.
>>
>> some of us don't have one.
>
> I hear you Brother!
>
> Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
> syndrome".

not i; i'm the oldest sibling. i merely suffered from "father with
ridiculous array of forenames decides not to repeat the effect". i
don't actually mind. (the surname's bad enough; anagrams, near misses
and complete failure to understand what was said, have been my (and my
sisters') lot, over the decades.)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

[Sam Plusnet]

In article <qf4mqud...@dev-rf10-linux.cl.cam.ac.uk>, rf10
@cl.cam.ac.uk says...

I choose to believe that when expecting their first offspring, parents
will invest long periods of time during the pregnancy to choosing
exactly the right name.

By the time they get to the third child, the gloss has entirely worn off
and an unlucky infant might be named after a breakfast cereal.

--
Sam

[Jane Vernon]

On 09/02/2015 19:55, carolet wrote:
> On 09/02/2015 01:06, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> In article <qfiofct...@dev-rf10-linux.cl.cam.ac.uk>, rf10
>> @cl.cam.ac.uk says...
>>>
>>> krw <richard....@Tesco.net> writes:
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Some of us prefer to use our middle name of course.
>>>
>>> some of us don't have one.
>>
>> I hear you Brother!
>>
>> Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
>> syndrome".
>>
>
> Some of us eldest children suffer from full blown Infant-naming Fatigue
> syndrome.
>
> In fact, my parents never really came up with any names for me. I'm told
> that as they had no ideas at all about what I should be called, the
> nurses/midwives/whatever started calling me by a suitably seasonal name,
> and they just went along with it.
>
>
>

That is sad, Carole. I hope you've been happy enough with the name
since, though.


--
Jane
The Potter in the Purple socks - to reply, please remove PURPLE
BTME

http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes

[Syd Rumpo]

On 09/02/2015 19:55, carolet wrote:

> On 09/02/2015 01:06, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> In article <qfiofct...@dev-rf10-linux.cl.cam.ac.uk>, rf10
>> @cl.cam.ac.uk says...
>>>
>>> krw <richard....@Tesco.net> writes:
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Some of us prefer to use our middle name of course.
>>>
>>> some of us don't have one.
>>
>> I hear you Brother!
>>
>> Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
>> syndrome".
>>
>
> Some of us eldest children suffer from full blown Infant-naming Fatigue
> syndrome.
>
> In fact, my parents never really came up with any names for me. I'm told
> that as they had no ideas at all about what I should be called, the
> nurses/midwives/whatever started calling me by a suitably seasonal name,
> and they just went along with it.

So when did you change your name from 'Turkey'?

Cheers
--
Syd

[Marjorie]

It's a whole lot easier now that most parents know (or can choose to
know) which sex the child is. In my day we had to consider both boys'
and girls' names up to the time of birth.

--
Marjorie

To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje

[Rosemary Miskin]

In article <MPG.2f4218658...@news.plus.net>, Sam Plusnet

<n...@home.com> wrote:
> Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
> syndrome".

I've probably mentioned before that one of my grandfathers, the youngest of
four boys, was simply named Fred.

Rosemary


--
Rosemary Miskin ZFC Sm mis...@orpheusmail.co.uk
Loughborough, UK http://miskin.orpheusweb.co.uk

[carolet]

On 10/02/2015 08:02, Jane Vernon wrote:
> On 09/02/2015 19:55, carolet wrote:
>> On 09/02/2015 01:06, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> In article <qfiofct...@dev-rf10-linux.cl.cam.ac.uk>, rf10
>>> @cl.cam.ac.uk says...
>>>>
>>>> krw <richard....@Tesco.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of us prefer to use our middle name of course.
>>>>
>>>> some of us don't have one.
>>>
>>> I hear you Brother!
>>>
>>> Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
>>> syndrome".
>>>
>>
>> Some of us eldest children suffer from full blown Infant-naming Fatigue
>> syndrome.
>>
>> In fact, my parents never really came up with any names for me. I'm told
>> that as they had no ideas at all about what I should be called, the
>> nurses/midwives/whatever started calling me by a suitably seasonal name,
>> and they just went along with it.
>>
>>
>>
> That is sad, Carole. I hope you've been happy enough with the name
> since, though.
>
>

Yes, I'm happy enough with it and always have been. I certainly can't
imagine having any other name now.


I don't think of my naming very often, and it was only when I wrote it
down above that I thought of it as being sad. It may be that the story
was distorted in the telling/hearing. Perhaps I should picture Ma and Pa
hearing the midwife using the name, and thinking what a lovely name it was.

[carolet]

How did you know what my real name is?

--


CaroleTurkey

[Jane Vernon]

:)))

[Mike McMillan]

On 2015-02-11 17:27:23 +0000, carolet said:

> On 10/02/2015 09:33, Syd Rumpo wrote:
>> On 09/02/2015 19:55, carolet wrote:
>>> On 09/02/2015 01:06, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> In article <qfiofct...@dev-rf10-linux.cl.cam.ac.uk>, rf10
>>>> @cl.cam.ac.uk says...
>>>>>
>>>>> krw <richard....@Tesco.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us prefer to use our middle name of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> some of us don't have one.
>>>>
>>>> I hear you Brother!
>>>>
>>>> Some of us have suffered from "Younger child, Infant-naming Fatigue
>>>> syndrome".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some of us eldest children suffer from full blown Infant-naming Fatigue
>>> syndrome.
>>>
>>> In fact, my parents never really came up with any names for me. I'm told
>>> that as they had no ideas at all about what I should be called, the
>>> nurses/midwives/whatever started calling me by a suitably seasonal name,
>>> and they just went along with it.
>>
>> So when did you change your name from 'Turkey'?
>>
>> Cheers
>
>
> How did you know what my real name is?

Fowl play?
--
Mike McMillan
"Let's all calm down shall we? Let's forget there is a llama in here at all."
(Lynda Snell, 010603)