PGage <pga...@gmail.com>: Nov 20 08:03AM -0800
Steve wrote...
After 20 years of fame, Clooney's humble personna may be fake, I don't
think Jennifer Lawrence's personna is fake. P
> Well if Lawrence's persona is fake, then she's an even better actress than
> I already thought she was.
I don't anybody could do the talk show circuit and be their "real self" -
most of the time. People get tired, cranky, depressed, anxious and fed up
in real life. So the question is not really whether a celebrity is "real",
but how likable is the persona they choose to adopt? For my money, the
personas of Clooney and Lawrence are very likable, and no less so when I
assume that they are somewhat different than their "real" every day selves.
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Joe Hass <hassg...@gmail.com>: Nov 20 06:24PM
First, my apologies for being unclear on this (and I realized it when I was
standing in the Costco parking lot last night). I wasn't matching up Lohan
and Lawrence as actresses. Rather I was matching them as David Letterman
guests. My apologies.
Here is my extent of actual experience with Ms Lawrence's career: when Jack
Nicholson interrupted her interview with George Stephanopoulos after
winning the Oscar, and her interviews with Dave. She may be a lousy, lousy
actress, but she's an incredible guest, and Dave goes into a rare mode with
her that, as Tom noted, is at the Hunt/Garr level.
I know we all have our different modes for different situations. If she's
fundamentally different than this, then as Mr Bowie noted she's a helluva
actress.
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PGage <pga...@gmail.com>: Nov 20 10:36AM -0800
> (SNIP) I know we all have our different modes for different situations. If
> she's fundamentally different than this, then as Mr Bowie noted she's a
> helluva actress.
She is a hell of an actress. As someone mentioned - exhibit A is "Winter's
Bone".
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<do...@FLIDS.NET>: Nov 20 11:39AM -0700
I can point to that interview with Stephanopoulos as the moment that I fell completely in love with Lawrence. Nicholson tapped her on the shoulder to speak his congratulations to her, and she endearingly acted like a giddy school girl as she spoke to one of her apparently heroes. As he was finally walking away, he yelled "You look like an old girlfriend of mine" and J-Law had the presence of mind to switch into bawdy mode without missing a beat, and shouted back "do I look like a *new* girlfriend?" and then turned and squealed at Stephanopoulos like a 14-year-old girl.
I laughed out loud, first time I saw the exchange, and thought "that girl's gonna do all right."
Doug Fields
Tampa, FL
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Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J-Law And Dave
From: Joe Hass <hassg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, November 20, 2014 1:24 pm
To: tvor...@googlegroups.com
First, my apologies for being unclear on this (and I realized it when I was standing in the Costco parking lot last night). I wasn't matching up Lohan and Lawrence as actresses. Rather I was matching them as David Letterman guests. My apologies.
Here is my extent of actual experience with Ms Lawrence's career: when Jack Nicholson interrupted her interview with George Stephanopoulos after winning the Oscar, and her interviews with Dave. She may be a lousy, lousy actress, but she's an incredible guest, and Dave goes into a rare mode with her that, as Tom noted, is at the Hunt/Garr level.
I know we all have our different modes for different situations. If she's fundamentally different than this, then as Mr Bowie noted she's a helluva actress.
On Wed Nov 19 2014 at 10:35:29 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
I like Lawrence a lot - I take Joe's point, except I never wanted or expected much from Lohan, even when she was a kid. Silver Linings was way over hyped, and not a particularly good portrayal of Bi-Polar Disorder, but I did not hate it - and I quite liked American Hustle.
But the point here is not how great Lawrence is as an actress, but how good a guest she is on talk shows, particularly with Dave. My daughter is a huge fan of Miss Stewart, and for all I know she is a superior actress (I have never seen her work) and human being; but she is just a horrible, horrible talk show guest. Now that is not the worst thing you can say about somebody - probably most of the very good people on the planet would be bad talk show guests. But if the topic is "good talk show guests", I think by any standard, Lawrence will be rated very high, and Stewart very low.
Lawrence reminds me of George Clooney (when he was doing interviews). A regular person, humble persona which clearly is very intentionally crafted and worn as a mask. I don't mind that - it is a likable mask, and these people have so many demands on them that you don't really expect them to be "themselves" (whatever that means) in their 100th interview of the tour.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:11 PM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Can I be a dissenting voice here? Personally, I can't stand Lawrence, and find her as phony as Monopoly money. In a weird discovery for me, I heard Kristen Stewart with Leonard Lopate a couple of weeks ago and thought she's exactly what Lawrence puts on the pretense of being: Someone who honestly doesn't give a rat's ass about "stardom" and who is far more interested in doing interesting projects and then going away and living (what sounded like) a real life among actual people until she comes across something she thinks is worthwhile. Before this interview, I had no interest in Stewart at all, marking her as "that Twilight girl," but I found her to be interesting, funny, and savvy. Lawrence always strikes me as Acting Too Hard at being "quirky" and "normal" and comes across as anything but for me.
If nothing else, she owes me Big Time for both "Silver Linings Playbook" and "American Hustle."
I agree about Silver Linings Playbook and have no plans to see American Hustle.
I don't care what Lawrence is like off camera or whether her indifference to stardom is contrived or authentic. For obvious reasons the Late Show is going to bend over backwards to bring on popular young actresses and Lawrence knows how to come with energy and playfulness. Her peers are all stiffs on the LS.
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PGage <pga...@gmail.com>: Nov 20 10:44AM -0800
That was a great moment - and could only be spontaneous. I had a similar
reaction as Doug
Jennifer Lawrence, Jack Nicholson Interruption Makes Waves After Oscars; Anne Hathaway on Big Win
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Joe Hass <hassg...@gmail.com>: Nov 20 07:24PM
I don't remember if it was discussed here or somewhere else at the time,
but on second watching, focus on Nicholson in the background *before* he
comes up. He takes a couple moments to prepare himself (patting the sweat
off his forehead, taking off his glasses). He knew damn good and well what
he was gonna do, and for me, it makes the entire thing even more sincere
and delightful.
The final lines (L:"Is he still there?" N:"I'll be waiting!") sent me over
the edge.
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Dave Sikula <dsi...@yahoo.com>: Nov 20 11:32AM -0800
Joe:
My own apologies for taking it off-topic, but for me, it's all the same.
I'll stipulate that she's lively and quirky and seems to have chemistry
with Dave, but for me her affect seems entirely non-spontaneous and
planned; hence, the phoniness. I can't separate one from the other. (I feel
the same about Drew Barrymore, by the way.)
As for Mr. Nicholson, he is entitled to his opinion.
--Dave Sikula
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:24:21 AM UTC-8, Joe Hass wrote:
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Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com>: Nov 20 02:52PM -0600
All I will say is that if it took a public radio interviewer to make
Kristen Stewart unbland, good for him (and granted, she hasn't been given
much of a chance to do anything other than Bella-ish characters). If
Jennifer Lawrence comes in to see Lenny and he exposes her as a fake, then
I guess we'll know. Otherwise, I will only relate someone else's story:
An actress acquaintance of mine in Chicago's parents knew Lawrence's
parents in Louisville, where she grew up, and she babysat Lawrence when she
was a teenager. It'll be two years ago that went to a Christmas party in
Louisville, Lawrence was there, recognized her and was the delightful
person she always seems to be, as the person I know tells it. So for now...
Mark Jeffries
Saints Spotlight Editor
spotl...@gmail.com
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