Re: Club Code of Ethics?

[Jeff Walker]

This is relevant - http://thagomizer.com/blog/2017/09/29/we-don-t-do-that-here.html

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On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:06 PM, <c.hei...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey everyone!

After seeing a rise in women speaking out about sexual harassment it got me thinking where I observe these behaviours or the seeds of these behaviours in my life.

While not seeing sexual harassment at Trailmonsters I have overheard some pretty dismal comments.

i.e From one guy to another: "Why didn't you grab her tits" as a women ran by in the other direction?  ("Locker room" style talk remind you of anyone in the White house?  And this was said before the incident even.)

Many more comments like that and the excessive use of the curse p***y.  As in don't be a "p***y".  I haven't heard that since high school gym.  As Trevor Noah puts it so well in one of his stand up routines...what is stonger then a p***y.  It can deliver a baby.  Brother, your d**k will snap if you sit on it the wrong way.

On top of these issues I myself have experienced weight shame having been shouted at "go eat a steak" before a race.  I have also heard from another vegetarian that she has been made fun of repeatedly.  While these things are all "locker room" talk and the assumption I assume is that I should see it as a friendly jest there is something wrong with it deep down.

Coming into a trail running/ultra running club I just have higher expectations.  Because it is such an egalitarian sport and also everyone goes through so much together.  Especially the fact that children and families are all part of the club and people of all shapes, abilities and sizes.  Should there be a club code of ethics?

I just thought it pertinent to bring up these issues as another year comes to a close.

My best wishes,

Clark

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[Valerie Abradi]

Thank you, Clark.

Scout

[Mindy Slovinsky]

Thank you, Clark.

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[Valerie Abradi]

I think the "we don't do that here" line is brilliant.

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[Tammy Volock]

Val, I agree completely!

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[unstrung]

Thank you Clark. Good article Jeff.

[Alan Morrison]

As long as individuals have codes of ethics groups don’t need them.  I hope I’m not wrong in assuming that all trailmonsters have a code of ethics already without having to put it in writing.

 

Alosaurus

 

From: c.hei...@gmail.com

Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 2:06 PM

To: Trail Monster Running

Subject: Club Code of Ethics?

 

Hey everyone!

After seeing a rise in women speaking out about sexual harassment it got me thinking where I observe these behaviours or the seeds of these behaviours in my life.

While not seeing sexual harassment at Trailmonsters I have overheard some pretty dismal comments.

i.e From one guy to another: "Why didn't you grab her tits" as a women ran by in the other direction?  ("Locker room" style talk remind you of anyone in the White house?  And this was said before the incident even.)

Many more comments like that and the excessive use of the curse p***y.  As in don't be a "p***y".  I haven't heard that since high school gym.  As Trevor Noah puts it so well in one of his stand up routines...what is stonger then a p***y.  It can deliver a baby.  Brother, your d**k will snap if you sit on it the wrong way.

On top of these issues I myself have experienced weight shame having been shouted at "go eat a steak" before a race.  I have also heard from another vegetarian that she has been made fun of repeatedly.  While these things are all "locker room" talk and the assumption I assume is that I should see it as a friendly jest there is something wrong with it deep down.

Coming into a trail running/ultra running club I just have higher expectations.  Because it is such an egalitarian sport and also everyone goes through so much together.  Especially the fact that children and families are all part of the club and people of all shapes, abilities and sizes.  Should there be a club code of ethics?

I just thought it pertinent to bring up these issues as another year comes to a close.

My best wishes,

Clark

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[drob...@gmail.com]

You are right Alan. I have run with the trail monsters for years and can’t say I have heard even one misplaced remark.  Nothing but unconditional support and respect

Pathfinder

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[Mindy Slovinsky]

Sweaty Buttercups sounds like the worst Girl Scout cookie ever....

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On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 8:38 AM, 'John Beliveau' via Trail Monster Running <trail-mons...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I made the new years resolution ('16/'17) to stop running Tuesday nights. NBD, It seemed dead before some time before then. The kicker was I would no longer subject myself to have to listen to "so sweaty buttercups".

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[Jes Karg]

We were all on the same page, being kind, being respectful, until one person decided to directly insult a number of TMR women who have a harmless inside joke about buttercups.  A joke that could neither hurt nor offend anyone. Apparently some in TMR are not as respectful of their fellow teammates as we all had assumed.  

But I do agree with Mindy, worst Girl Scout Cookie ever!! :)