TracHacks will be down until August 27th

[RjOllos]

A few of us had a brief email exchange with the trac-hacks server admin about the site being down. He is currently on vacation and can't do anything to bring the server online until August 27th when he'll be able to get onsite and fix the issue.

At that point, we'll be discussing what can be done in the future to avoid a situation like this again. I'm not sure if that might include alernative hosting for trac-hacks.

[Eduard-Cristian Stefan]

I have a few mirrors on BitBucket:

https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-accountldap-plugin
https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-accountmanager-plugin
https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-apacheuserinfo-plugin
https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-fivestarvote-plugin
https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-tags-plugin
https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-tracdeveloper-plugin
https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-vote-plugin
https://bitbucket.org/alexandrul/trac-wysiwyg-plugin

[Runako Godfrey]

Hi,

I am a co-founder of ProjectLocker, a commercial Trac (and SVN and Git) host. I'd like to volunteer ProjectLocker to host the trac-hacks site as a service to the community. 

ProjectLocker currently hosts thousands of separate Trac instances, so we have experience with Trac hosting at high volumes. We'd be very interested in putting trac-hacks on production-quality infrastructure and management to ensure uptime and performance.

We've reached out to the owner of the trac-hacs.org domain, but do not have contact information for the server admin. If this sounds like it would be beneficial for the community, please have the server admin get in touch with me so that we can make it happen.

Thanks,

Runako Godfrey

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:43 AM, RjOllos <ry...@physiosonics.com> wrote:

A few of us had a brief email exchange with the trac-hacks server admin about the site being down. He is currently on vacation and can't do anything to bring the server online until August 27th when he'll be able to get onsite and fix the issue.

At that point, we'll be discussing what can be done in the future to avoid a situation like this again. I'm not sure if that might include alernative hosting for trac-hacks.

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[RjOllos]

In addition to the generous offer from ProjectLocker, WANDisco has offered to host Trac-Hacks. With these offers, I'm very excited that we'll be able to make some significant improvements to the service offered at Trac-Hacks.

I'll post a follow-up shortly after August 27th, to inform the community of our tentative plan to move Trac-Hacks to new hosting, and to request feedback from the community on this plan. There will also be a call for help in getting the Trac-Hacks site upgrade to Trac 1.0.

[Branson Matheson]

I have a bunch of the plugins but not all ... and certainly not a mirror of the site db or svn instance. I'd be willing to share what i have tho.

On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Leo wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> Along with the others, we'd be happy to host/mirror the site. We've been
> hosting sine 2002 and with Trac since 2006 and it's pretty core to what we
> do.
>
> Does someone have a backup? :)
>
> Could get this back online tonight if so, obviously...!
>
> Leo

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[Benjamin Lau]

https://bitbucket.org/hasienda/t-h.o_shadow

Hasienda setup a nice mirror for us.

Ben

[osimons]

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:43:36 PM UTC+2, RjOllos wrote:

A few of us had a brief email exchange with the trac-hacks server admin about the site being down. He is currently on vacation and can't do anything to bring the server online until August 27th when he'll be able to get onsite and fix the issue.

At that point, we'll be discussing what can be done in the future to avoid a situation like this again. I'm not sure if that might include alernative hosting for trac-hacks.

Server/service downtime is just an unavoidable aspect og hosting, and no doubt there will be pros and cons regardless of what we do. No guarantees. Mike & helpers have done a terrific job keeping it running for many years, but ironically that change was also partly due to an extended blackout during a personal holiday... Hardware, networks, software, companies and people cannot always work. Particularly remembering that everything around Trac is based on voluntary labour and run on shoestring budgets.

However; to add to the possible options for Trac-Hacks, I would like to propose moving it to the Edgewall infrastructure. There we can manage it in much the same way as we do for the other projects - including Trac, Genshi and Babel. Current maintainers are welcome to continue their efforts there, but will additionally be able to also utilize others if needed.

I have had a brief initial exchange with Jonas, Christian and Remy about this, and they are all positive to the idea of bringing the Hacks/Plugins site closer to the Trac project itself. Plugins are important for nearly all Trac installations, and judging by the level of plugin-related tickets and mailing list discussions it is quite clear that most users regard it as two sides of the same coin. Keeping the projects closer together, we as developers are more likely to remember this as well.

Additionally Trac-Hacks poses some interesting challenges and possibilities with regards to its extensive multiproject/multiproject aspects, so perhaps this will also be a great opportunity to re-think and improve some of the site features - hopefully done by improving Trac itself whenever feasible. I know this thought process is started already, so I look forward to reading though these ideas again - as soon as the wiki is back up again ;-) 

:::simon

https://www.coderesort.com/u/simon 

[RjOllos]

On Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:58:28 PM UTC-7, osimons wrote:

Server/service downtime is just an unavoidable aspect og hosting, and no doubt there will be pros and cons regardless of what we do. No guarantees. Mike & helpers have done a terrific job keeping it running for many years, but ironically that change was also partly due to an extended blackout during a personal holiday... Hardware, networks, software, companies and people cannot always work. Particularly remembering that everything around Trac is based on voluntary labour and run on shoestring budgets.

I hope I am just reading too much into your post and you didn't take what I said as criticism of Mike or any other volunteer. I was just passing along what Mike said to me over email: "Once this issue is solved, we should (virtually) get together and consider which options exist to prevent something like this to happen again."

Certainly, weeks of downtime is avoidable, and that seems to be everyone's intent. As you suggest, we have the possibility to spread the administration work across multiple people, and pass the infrastructure burden onto others. We have 4 offers to host trac-hacks and free Mike from the mundane work of maintaining and fixing server hardware, so "shoestring budgets" doesn't seem to be a limiting factor in getting reliable hosting for trac-hacks in the future.

I just hope we can make a decision soon about which offer we will take to host trac-hacks. I'm eager to help as much as I can and get trac-hacks upgraded to 1.0.

[Cooke, Mark]

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>
> However; to add to the possible options for Trac-Hacks, I
> would like to propose moving it to the Edgewall
> infrastructure. There we can manage it in much the same way
> as we do for the other projects - including Trac, Genshi and
> Babel. Current maintainers are welcome to continue their
> efforts there, but will additionally be able to also utilize
> others if needed.
>

<snip>

That makes a lot of sense to me. Great though the other offers are, to have both t.e.o and t-h.o co-hosted seems close to ideal. Not that my vote counts for much but +1 from me.

Regards,

~ mark c

[Steffen Hoffmann]

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On 04.09.2012 17:19, Iain Argent wrote:
> Looks like it is back up, but I'm not sure if it is fully restored yet.
> I was checking for the latest colormacro:
>
> http://trac-hacks.org/svn/colormacro/0.12/Color.py

Yes, why not? Should be fine now. There was an issue with services,
never with the data.

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Not really, this is a bad joke, right? Using GnuPG/PGP is required to
get confidential stuff over email, and at least in my country you
couldn't enforce such misleading claims anyway - anything else is just FUD.

Steffen Hoffmann

PS: Sorry, if you can't control your (companies) disclaimer. You may
still want to tell your boss to help shutting down the silly signature.
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