[TW5] Transcluded Menu Bar for Tiddlers in a Tabset? (Using /tobibeer/inc Plugin?)

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

Tobias, et. al. —

Is there a way to use the tobibeer/inc plugin to display the on-hover toolbar for transcluded tiddlers displayed in tabsets?

Because that would be FANTASTIC.

[Tobias Beer]

Just on mobile atm. I'd think it boils down to whether or not the core uses a (/which?) template for tabcontents… or whether we'd have to actually override the core tabs macro.

I'd argue that all macros should:

- use templates wherever possible
- by pointing not to the actual template but rather another system tiddler defining a reference to the eventual core template -> so we hardly ever override a core template but rather point to another one

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 6:20:13 AM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

I'd think it boils down to whether or not the core uses a (/which?) template for tabcontents… or whether we'd have to actually override the core tabs macro.

It doesn't look like $:/core/macros/tabs uses any separate templates except one that can (optionally) be passed into the tabs macro to control how the contents of tabs are displayed.  (I may be reading that wrong, but I think that's what's going on.)

I can almost get it to work by overwriting the core shadow tiddler and inserting the <DL> code <$tabs>'s native <$list> macro (see attached screenshot, where purple are the insertions).  The hover menu's positioning is off a bit, but I could tweak the <DD> class to address that.  More importantly, I get this error in all the tabs:

Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget

(though I'm not sure what specifically is being transcluded into itself).

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 6:52:59 PM UTC-5, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) wrote:

(though I'm not sure what specifically is being transcluded into itself).

Oh!  Looking again, I guess it's the <<{>> macrocall.  Switching to <$macrocall $name="tb-inc" text=<<currentTab>> /> eliminates the recursive transclusion problem — but now I can see the results are a bit mixed.  I'm inheriting a bold font weight on the tiddler transcluded into the tab, and it seems the hover bar doesn't show up if the tab to be transcluded actually exists and has content.

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Scott,

Here's an update for tobibeer/inc to version 0.5.2

with instructions for how to make it work with tabs.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 9:56:50 AM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

Hi Scott,

Here's an update for tobibeer/inc to version 0.5.2

with instructions for how to make it work with tabs.

Man, oh, man — this is, as the kids say, the best thing evar!

Thanks, Tobias!

[Alex Hough]

great idea!

Alex

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[Tobias Beer]

Hi Scott,

 

Man, oh, man — this is, as the kids say, the best thing evar!

Happy to see you... happy. :-)

There appears to be an issue concerning the plugin library though,

whereas using a tabs template like so will break the ability

to add plugins using the "Get more plugin" ui.

What you will find is that it won't list any plugins from a library.

I have already made a pull request to fix it here:

#2245 retrieves url from connectionTiddler for modal to AddPlugins

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2245

To manually fix it, overwrite the file in the PR in your wiki.

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

Thanks for the heads-up!  Inc's new super power has driven me tabs-crazy (well, more than I already was).  It's great to be only one click away from the source tiddler of a tab at any given moment — without having to manually add links in tiddlers pointing to themselves.

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 10:46:19 AM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

To manually fix it, overwrite the file in the PR in your wiki.

Do you mean the plugin repository shadow tiddler ($:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Plugins)?  Or the inc tabs template ($:/plugins/tobibeer/inc/templates/tabs)?

(Can I just temporarily disable the plugin when checking the plugin library?)

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Scott,

 

To manually fix it, overwrite the file in the PR in your wiki.

Do you mean the plugin repository shadow tiddler ($:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Plugins)?  Or the inc tabs template ($:/plugins/tobibeer/inc/templates/tabs)?

 

Hi Scott, I mean the file changed in this Pull Request:

#2245 retrieves url from connectionTiddler for modal to AddPlugins

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2245

Which is: $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Modals/AddPlugins

(Can I just temporarily disable the plugin when checking the plugin library?)

Not simply.

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 4:00:59 AM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

I mean the file changed in this Pull Request:

#2245 retrieves url from connectionTiddler for modal to AddPlugins

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2245

Which is: $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Modals/AddPlugins

Thanks!

I was thinking "PR" = "plugin repository" instead of "pull request."  :D

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

Hi, Tobias —

I hadn't realized it until last night, but there are some other complications from the modified $:/core/macros/tabs.  These crop up in the info panel:

• Only the most basic fields (caption, tag, and title) get listed under fields.  (Look at a plugin tiddler for comparison.)
• Tagging, References, List, and Listed all show as empty (even if they're not for the current tiddler).
• Advanced displays information about $:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/Advanced rather than the current tiddler.

I haven't dug in hard, but I wonder if it might be possible to restrict the effects of your tab wizardry to .tc-tiddler-body and thus sidestep the issue.  (That would mean no more hover menus in the sidebar, but perhaps that's a good thing.  Certainly the way I've been nesting tabs to create complex sidebar menus, I'd considered trying to make that limitation myself.  But such a modification might prevent the hover menus from scrambling up the info panel, too.)

[Andrew Whiting]

Hi Scott, 

I'm having the same problem. Did you figure out how to fix it?

Andrew

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

Funny you should mention that, Andrew — !

I took a stab at modifying inc but ultimately decided the best solution for me was to write a simpler macro of my own and add it the core tabs macro to display a "go to" button in tabsets.  I've been pleased with it, but I just tore into it on Tuesday night to try to make it compatible with substories as well as tabs.  I'll take a look after dinner, see if I can clean it up, and post the tiddlers here later tonight.  :)

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

That took longer than I thought.  (Crazy day!)

See how you like this approach:

http://tiddlywiki.secret-hq.com/testing/OpenTabSource.html

It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the inc toolbar, but it does display a quick button pushed into the far-right tiddler margin that allows you to go to the source of a tab.  I don't have it packaged up as a plugin at the moment because I keep tinkering with it and partnering it up with other things — but if you install the first three tiddlers listed on that page, you'll have its component parts.  (The fourth tiddler is a cloned version of the core macros tiddler for doing things like this.)

Be aware that I've modified $:/core/macros/tabs to include the "source button."  I'm trying to stay away from modifying core tiddlers where I can, but that was the best way to make this work.