Two plugin requests

[David Gifford]

Hi all

Hoping that I can catch Tobias while he is in this mode of pumping out plugins like there is no tomorrow! Or if not him, maybe someone else here...

Two things that were discussed waaay back in early 2014 in hangouts in TW5's still fairly early days, but apparently never materialized. Wonder if anyone could get enthused enough to do as plugins...

1. Popups that come up when hovering over internal links. I think the original discussion had been a mini preview of the tiddler itself. That is fine but I on the other hand would like a way to do popups when hovering over biblical text references, where I can insert the text somewhere in the tiddler and have it popup when hovering over the reference.

2. A plugin that provides an alternate markup for tables so that individual cells can be formatted with background colors, etc.

Dave

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Dave,

Hoping that I can catch Tobias while he is in this mode of pumping out plugins like there is no tomorrow! Or if not him, maybe someone else here...

;-)

Tbh, I'm not seeing either of these in plugin-land:

1. Popups that come up when hovering over internal links. I think the original discussion had been a mini preview of the tiddler itself. That is fine but I on the other hand would like a way to do popups when hovering over biblical text references, where I can insert the text somewhere in the tiddler and have it popup when hovering over the reference.

This perhaps requires two things:

1. a core LinkTemplate that can be defined for the LinkWidget
• which would kick-in globally, if defined (and no pretty title was used or the pretty title would amount to emtpy string)
  
• this issue may be of interest:
  #2215 default LinkWidget contents / LinkTemplate
  https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2215
  
  
2. an update to the ButtonWidget that allows to trigger its actions on-hover rather than on-click
• so that you could use such an enhanced button in your custom $:/core/ui/LinkTemplate from above
• not sure if there is such an issue yet => create?
  
• instead of a modified ButtonWidget... the LinkWidget could directly do the hover popup... but it would possibly duplicate some of the ButtonWidget's popup handling and would need a state etc...

2. A plugin that provides an alternate markup for tables so that individual cells can be formatted with background colors, etc.

I truly don't see this in plugin-land. Any sort of updates to table formatting need to be part of the core, imho.

Otherwise, I'd suggest you to use hmtl tables and don't use wikitext tables at all.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

[David Gifford]

bah humbug :-) Knew I was hoping for too much

Dave

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:49:57 PM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:

Hi Dave,

Hoping that I can catch Tobias while he is in this mode of pumping out plugins like there is no tomorrow! Or if not him, maybe someone else here...

;-)

Tbh, I'm not seeing either of these in plugin-land:

1. Popups that come up when hovering over internal links. I think the original discussion had been a mini preview of the tiddler itself. That is fine but I on the other hand would like a way to do popups when hovering over biblical text references, where I can insert the text somewhere in the tiddler and have it popup when hovering over the reference.

This requires two things:

1. a core LinkTemplate that can be defined for the LinkWidget
• which would kick-in globally, if defined (and no pretty title was used or the pretty title would amount to emtpy string)
  
• this issue may be of interest:
  #2215 default LinkWidget contents / LinkTemplate
  https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2215
  
  
2. an update to the ButtonWidget that allows to trigger its actions on-hover rather than on-click

• so that you could use such an enhanced button in your custom $:/core/ui/LinkTemplate from above

• not sure if there is such an issue yetthere is no such issue yet => create?

2. A plugin that provides an alternate markup for tables so that individual cells can be formatted with background colors, etc.

I truly don't see this in plugin-land. Any sort of updates to table formatting need to be part of the core, imho.

Otherwise, I'd suggest you to use hmtl tables and don't use wikitext tables at all.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

[Greg Davis]

As for the popup, if you want to stick with TW markup or a 'true' popup I can't help. But have you considered just using a tooltip or a regular tiddler with the notes. I've been exploring this and trying to decide which is best but have some examples, see attached

Greg

[Hegart Dmishiv]

I use a tooltip (using the <abbr> HTML tag) in my definition link macro, which took some help from the community here to create, as I'm a n00b with TW macros. One thing I found is that there's no point putting links into the tooltip though, as they don't work. This limits the usefulness of a tooltip for this purpose, from my perspective.

[Tobias Beer]

Hi David,

Popups that come up when hovering over internal links.

After some brainstorming I created tobibeer/preview as announced here.

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

[David Gifford]

Woo hoo!!!

I knew you could do it, Tobias! :-)

This adds value to my life. Very nice. Thank you!

Dave

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Dave,

 

I knew you could do it, Tobias! :-)

This adds value to my life. Very nice. Thank you!

Happy to see you like it. :-)

I've been wanting this for TW2 for a long time.

Actually seeing it at work makes me think

that it can be quite useful as it allows you to

stay where you are while looking at another place;

a simple, but quite powerful paradigm shift.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

[Eric Shulman]

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:

Hi Dave,

 

I knew you could do it, Tobias! :-)

This adds value to my life. Very nice. Thank you!

Happy to see you like it. :-)

I've been wanting this for TW2 for a long time.

I guess you missed this one:

   http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PopupPreviewPlugin

-e

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Eric,

 

I guess you missed this one:

http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PopupPreviewPlugin

Indeed have, mhhh. :|

Best wishes,

Tobias.