Grounded Theory Coding

[Niklas Wagner]

Hello,

I would like to use Tiddlywiki for Coding in Grounded Thory.

Coding here means to tag certain parts of a text.

For my example, in my interviews on "Neatness in Gardens" I have a tag
"Snail", I want to mark all sections of in the transkrips with this
tag. And then when i open this tag i want to see an overview of all
the section i marked with this tag.

I could just simply copy the whole trancript in a tiddler and copy
paste all the sections in which there is talked about "snails" into
the tiddly "snail". After a while a I would have all "snail" sections
of all lnterviews in the tiddly "snail"

But i would be nice to have it more dynamic:
That I can tag sections inside a tiddly. And then have all these
sections listed in the Tiddly of this tag, in such a way, that they
are linked to the original text tiddly and that by one click I can see
what is written before and after the tagged section.

Are there any plugins which can do that?

I hope I did formulate in english what i want to say in such a matter
that you understand it.

sincerely,

Niklas wagner

[Alex Hough]

> But i would be nice to have it more dynamic:
> That I can tag sections inside a tiddly. And then have all these
> sections listed in the Tiddly of this tag, in such a way, that they
> are linked to the original text tiddly and that by one click I can see
> what is written before and after the tagged section.

I have noticed the use of hashtags in Twitter, perhaps they could it
be used to mark up the text

Example;

Alex's garden was looking very neat. There were [[few leaves on his
flowers]]#Snail and he was delighted.

or perhaps
(few leaves on his flowers)#Snail
* its unlikely that in natural grammer that ")#" would not be an error

I've set up an alert on Google Scholar for papers mentioning hashtags;
there is a steady flow. They are becoming part of writing on the web.

I think it would be interesting to use have some support for parsing
them in the wikifier. It would be usefull for making sense of
Tweets..... but also I have got more into Twitter ... I have found
myself using hashtags when writing notes. Recently I have been
experimenting with ELS's gotoPlugin and Simon's NewHere. I type a
hashtag -- or start to -- then if one popups up i add a newHere from
that tiddler. Otherwise I keep typing and make a new hashtag, (or
string of hashtags).

But also, wikifiing hashtags sends out a message that TW is current.
No other wiki supports hashtag parsing .... to my knowledge

ALex

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[HansBKK]

On Friday, February 24, 2012 10:11:09 PM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote:

Coding here means to tag certain parts of a text.

Better to use the term "tagging" content then so it's clear in this context.

What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential, section/chapter whatever order.

However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic tags.

[Niklas Wagner]

> Better to use the term "tagging" content then so it's clear in this
> context.

very good, but what i mean is not tagging of tiddlers but tagging of
parts of tiddlers.

> What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call
> "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential,
> section/chapter whatever order.
> However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be
> "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic
> tags.

Ho do you view it then in sequential order?

i think the problem with that is that certain parts of an text have at
the same time different interlocking tags:

Niklas: in my interviews on "Neatness in Gardens" I have a tag
"Snail", I want to mark all sections of in the transcripts with this
tag.
Alex: ((Alex's garden was looking very neat. There were ((few leaves
on his
flowers))#description and ((he was delighted))#emotion.
Niklas: Alex, Do you like Snails? I mean they ate all the leaves of
the your flowers.))#Snails


perhaps the solution would look like something like the preview of the
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin

but what you could fill in a tiddler and define exactly with (()) what
should be displayed.

[Alex Hough]

Perhaps we could think of the required outputs.....

| Code | Phrase | Contained in Tiddler |h
| #description | "few leaves on his flowers" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] |
| #emotion | "he was delighted" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] |
| table showing coded phrases and locations|c

... then work out a how to produce the table

1) go to the tiddler store
2) find any tiddler that has any text surrounded by double single
brackets and followed by a hash and put them into an array
3) output table

I think the Javascript RegEx Object might come in handy...

ALex

[1] http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_obj_regexp.asp

[Niklas Wagner]

Sorry after i have finisht my master thesis i want to get into
JAvaskript and Tiddly, but now i dont have time for that. Can anybody
programm, what i have asked for ;)
:
tagging of parts of tiddlers, and seeing all tagged parts under the
tiddler with the title of that tag. also that both are syncronised.

On 29 Feb., 10:05, Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps we could think of the required outputs.....
>
> | Code  | Phrase | Contained in Tiddler |h
> | #description | "few leaves on his flowers" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] |
> | #emotion | "he was delighted" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] |
> | table showing coded phrases and locations|c
>
> ... then work out a how to produce the table
>
> 1) go to the tiddler store
> 2) find any tiddler that has any text surrounded by double single
> brackets and followed by a hash and put them into an array
> 3) output table
>
> I think the Javascript RegEx Object might come in handy...
>
> ALex
>
> [1]http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_obj_regexp.asp
>

[HansBKK]

On Monday, March 5, 2012 8:52:23 PM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote:

Sorry after i have finisht my master thesis i want to get into
JAvaskript and Tiddly, but now i dont have time for that. Can anybody
programm, what i have asked for ;)
:
tagging of parts of tiddlers, and seeing all tagged parts under the
tiddler with the title of that tag. also that both are syncronised.

I am sure there are many people here who could do it (I couldn't), but unless you can find someone with the same desire to scratch that particular itch, you'll probably have to offer to pay for the work involved in developing such a custom plugin. If you indicate a willingness to do so, I would think you'd likely get followups via private email to discuss further details.

[Alex Hough]

I wonder if there might be an opportunity in seeking some funding.
Grounded Theory is not going to go away, a sound tool for coding data
into a wiki could lead to more grounded theory practitioners using TW.
It's a long tail...

When you've got time if you could post a more detailed description.

Alex

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[Niklas Wagner]

On Mar 8, 12:20 pm, Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When you've got time if you could post a more detailed description.
>>

What should be described and who do you mean?

> > On Monday, March 5, 2012 8:52:23 PM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote:

> >> tagging of parts of tiddlers, and seeing all tagged parts under the
> >> tiddler with the title of that tag. also that both are syncronised.

i found some plugin that yould be used for that:
http://stevesuny.tiddlyspace.com/#[[PopNote%20PlugIn]]


Greets,

Niklas

[Niklas Wagner]

> I am sure there are many people here who could do it (I couldn't), but
> unless you can find someone with the same desire to scratch that particular
> itch, you'll probably have to offer to pay for the work involved in
> developing such a custom plugin. If you indicate a willingness to do so, I
> would think you'd likely get followups via private email to discuss further
> details.

right now i have no money for that.

also i am indetermined if i should tell the community all my ideas or
save them for when i have enough money to buy programmers free from
wagework ;)

[HansBKK]

Sorry I don't understand that last bit - maybe try re-phrasing.
  "buy" = hire?
  "free from wagework?"

What possible disadvantage could there be in sharing your ideas? Developing them with others that might be interested here, refining what you're trying to accomplish.

You never know when someone will pop up in TWland with the same itch, and if they happen to be an experienced javascript hacker who could prototype a plugin in a spare afternoon. . .

[Tobias Beer]

Actually, I would think the basic approach in TiddlyWiki would be
wikilinks.

So, you would write about [[snails]].
Once you open the snails tiddler, you could easily find references.
So, if you wish, linking is a kind of tagging.
On top of that you could still use tagging for whole tiddlers.

What's missing is the ability to list references in the context of the
sections (or paragraphs) where they occur.

As of today, using Erics's RelatedTiddlersPlugin from http://tiddlytools.com
you could explore those related items in a minimal spanning tree.

A flavour of RelatedTiddlersPlugin available in tbGTD is x-plore (see
toolbar).
It allows you to see such trees for the four basic relations that
are...
* tagged by
* tagging to
* referenced by
* linking to

Tobias.

[Tobias Beer]

@Alex

Rather than (some special markup for)#hashtags, I would think it were
much better to index and detect either the paragraphs or the sections
where #hashtags (/or [[TiddlyLinks]]) are contained, e.g.

{{{
!A Section
Some #hashtag in the context of [[some topic]].
!Another Section
Foo bar baz.
}}}

...or...

{{{
A paragraph containing #aHashTag and some subsequent contextual
content.
This would be a new paragraph not consituting the direct context of
the above hashtag.
}}}


Besides, the syntax you suggested earlier does not so much conform to
the general use of #hashtags all over the web

So, what I think is missing is a way to index...
* [[TiddlyLinks]]
* #Hashtags
* @Tags
* <AnyPrefix>AnyTag

And then be able to list them highlighting the tag in the context of
the...
* paragraph
* section
* tiddler
....wherein they are contained.

Once you click on a list item (or a dedicated link in relation to it),
you would want the ability to jump to the corresponding element where
the [[TiddlyLink]] or #hashtag or @tag is contained. For whole
tiddlers and sections that would already work (with the additional
requirement of SectionLinksPlugin from TiddlyTools when it comes to
sections).

As for paragraphs, it would be required to first index all paragraphs
upon initial inspection when generating the list and then to open the
target element using a hijacked version of displayTiddler which
would...
# require a unique identifier for the target element to be addressed
# render the target element of the tiddler with a unique id
(checksum?) along with a special css class for highlighting it
# eventually jump to the target element upon opening

I remember that @Chris somewhere indexed all paragraphs in one of his
wikis. This would be a perfect starting point for implementing the
paragraph based solution.

All in all, this could be a perfectly generic HashTagsPlugin where not
only hashes but all kinds of prefixes could be used for indexing a
hash-tag-map.

For performance it might be beneficial to persist the hash-tag-map in
the browser memory and perhaps have it created upon startup and
updated on any tiddler change.

Eventually, some RegEx guru might be able to easily spot #hashtags in
tiddler bodies directly returning the section title (/ paragraph
checksum) to the surrounding function.

Tobias.

[PMario]

On Mar 13, 1:10 pm, Tobias Beer <beertob...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> As for paragraphs, it would be required to first index all paragraphs
> upon initial inspection when generating the list and then to open the
> target element using a hijacked version of displayTiddler which
> would...
> # require a unique identifier for the target element to be addressed
> # render the target element of the tiddler with a unique id
> (checksum?) along with a special css class for highlighting it
> # eventually jump to the target element upon opening

uique ID (checksum)?
If you change one bit in a paragraph the checksum will change ... all
references are broken, if they are not dynamically rewritten. Linking
from external sources to one of your paragraphs imo will allways be
broken after some time. (1/2 a year, 1-2 years ...)
A TW tiddler permalink with some text eg: see: "end of the text" imo
will be more stable. Due to the nature of TW you'll need to keep the
tiddler title ;)

-m

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Mario,

> uique ID (checksum)?

Well, actually perhaps the most simple paragraph count actually does
the trick.

> all references are broken, if they are not dynamically rewritten.

What I have in mind is to...
* either keep a full index of hash tags updated in memory
* dynamically load something more resembling search results

> Linking from external sources to one of your paragraphs imo
> will allways be broken after some time. (1/2 a year, 1-2 years ...)

I guess the example of Chris implementation wasn't really a good one.
It might have given the idea that url-style-references and permalinks
to paragraphs were in the focus... which they are not.

So actually, what I have in mind really is a kind of search function
with perhaps a smart pre-indexing and the ability to show search
results in the context of a surrounding paragraph or section.

These search results could be invoked via macro or even by detecting
hashtags when rendering a tiddler and turning them into links, which
upon click would open a corresponding (shadow-)tiddler with the search
results for this hashtag... all on the fly and most certainly updated
with any tiddler updates.

Thinking this further, calling such a shadow tiddler via permalink
would actually display hashtag search results when a tw loads... how
cool would that be?

Again, hashtag prefixes might be any in a number of different
prefixes, not just #. So when you click on a hashtag, you might want
to not only see other contents where it is contained but also other
hash tags that start by the same prefix... perhaps by opening a slider
containing a list of all alike hastags, perhaps again as a slider
which - when opened - immediately displays the search results for a
given hashtag.

Tobias.

[Tobias Beer]

I did some experimentation and maybe inline hashtags in your tiddler
bodies would be helpful?

http://hashtags.tiddlyspace.com

(This is all experimental for now.)

tb.

[Niklas Wagner]

wow thank you for your work

[Niklas Wagner]

you warn not to include your plugin jet, should i experiment with it
in my ongoing tagging(GroundedTheory Categorizing)and give you
feedback, or even load some of my ongoing wok to some tiddlyspace?
That we can dicuss it there?

[PMario]

On Mar 26, 10:47 pm, Tobias Beer <beertob...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> http://hashtags.tiddlyspace.com
Wow Tobias,
and I thought my "Experimental Waring Infos" are daunting ;)

Great work btw.
-m

[Alex Hough]

@Tobais : Great contributions

Alex

[Tobias Beer]

Of course... feel free to experiment.

[Niklas Wagner]

Ok i tried

when I include your HashTagsPlug the PluginManager says: Error: ReferenceError: jQuery is not defined

how to fix that?

[Tobias Beer]

I don't remember from when on exactly jQuery was part of the TiddlyWiki core... but what version are you running? Perhaps you need to upgrade if possible. Theoretically, I could write my code without jQuery, but I'd muuuuch rather not. So I guess, I need to put up a dependency some core version.

Anybody remember, what version that would be?

Tobias.

[Eric Shulman]

On Apr 7, 5:54 am, Tobias Beer <beertob...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I don't remember from when on exactly jQuery was part of the TiddlyWiki core... but what version are you running? Perhaps you need to upgrade if possible. Theoretically, I could write my code without jQuery, but I'd muuuuch rather not. So I guess, I need to put up a dependency some core version.
>
> Anybody remember, what version that would be?

jQuery was added in TW2.5.0

-e

[Tobias Beer]

Thanks Eric,

I have added the CoreVersion to the plugin slices...

Tobias.

[Niklas Wagner]

jep it seems I had a very alt version of TW, but i managed to upgrade

i made an copy of my Tw due to your Experimental Waring Infos an
included your HashTagsPlugin

the #words are now bigger and links, but the Tiddler "Search results
for #word..."
only contains

Error in macro <<hashtag>>

which is:

Error while executing macro <<hashtag>>:
TypeError: store.getTiddlerText(cmt.exclude) is nul

:(

I believe your HashTagsPlugin could be used very good for my purposes
of Grounded Theory Tagging, because it is very fast in handling.

right now i create of each section, which should be tagged, a new
Tiddler and use the PoptPlugin(taken from http://stevesuny.tiddlyspace.com/)
to transclude this new tiddler into the old place of the original
tiddler. this takes long time of copy and paste and typing compared to
your solution.

[Niklas Wagner]

jep it seems I had a very alt version of TW, but i managed to upgrade

i made an copy of my Tw due to your Experimental Waring Infos an
included your HashTagsPlugin

the #words are now bigger and links, but the Tiddler "Search results
for #word..."
only contains

Error in macro <<hashtag>>

which is:

Error while executing macro <<hashtag>>:
TypeError: store.getTiddlerText(cmt.exclude) is nul

:(

I believe your HashTagsPlugin could be used very good for my purposes
of Grounded Theory Tagging, because it is very fast in handling.

right now i create of each section, which should be tagged, a new
Tiddler and use the PoptPlugin(taken from http://stevesuny.tiddlyspace.com/)
to transclude this new tiddler into the old place of the original
tiddler. this takes long time of copy and paste and typing compared to
your solution.

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Niklas,

Good to hear that you've got your update working.

I have uploaded a fixed version.

The problem was that excludes are (not necessarily) defined in a Tiddler called HashTagsConfig.

Sorry, there is no detailed documentation yet. Anyways, the current default for [[HashTagsConfig]] is the following...

!Exclude

[[Bracketed List Of Tiddlers]] [[That Are]] [[Excluded]]

[[Along With]] [[All Tiddlers]] [[Tagging To Them]]

"In One Line Or Multiple' 'using single quotes' "or double quotes" OrCamelCase

Hope that helped...

Tobias.

[Niklas Wagner]

Thank you,

now it works and its great! The overview where the tag occours is very
helpful for my purposes.

But i have pretty big tiddlers, which i want to hashtag, containing
the transcriptions of the interviews. they are up to 10000 words/
30pages big

i would have to make lots of sections so that i find the location of
the hastag fast.

Also when i put the same hastag more than once in a tiddler or section
it is not shown


but i think you already have thought about that in this post:

You wrote: Mar 13, 2:10 pm

Rather than (some special markup for)#hashtags, I would think it were
much better to index and detect either the paragraphs or the sections
where #hashtags (/or [[TiddlyLinks]]) are contained, e.g.

....


the http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin plugin does
something like that when you are searching.

[Niklas Wagner]

i sometimes make spelling mistakes or just put a second hashtag to the
same subjekt, because, i dont remember that there was already one
hastag for that subjekt.

in normal tagging the autocomplete of the http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#IntelliTaggerPlugin
prevents that pretty good.


to tidy up the mess i have made,
is there a relplace plugin for tiddlywiki, that i can replace wrong
spelled hastags with the right spelling?

i searched the group and found:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/cfcec80f3c62d0f/896da7a59fef94e9?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=replace+search#896da7a59fef94e9

but the SearchAndReplacePlugin is not there anymore.

Normally i just open the TiddlyWikiFile in an edtor and do the find/
replace there.

Should I make a new Discussion for this?

[Niklas Wagner]

if a #tag is a # and a already existing TidllerTitle then it doesent
become a tag?

I dont know if it is so useful to make a distinction between hastags
and tiddlers. i mean when i tag something with #compost the tiddler
"compost" should be connected with it. the concept that a tag is a
tiddler is so simple and powerful. didnt TaggelyTagging introduce that?
(i dont know, because i only found tiddlywiki in 2008)

[Niklas Wagner]

> > What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call
> > "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential,
> > section/chapter whatever order.
> > However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be
> > "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic
> > tags.
>
> Ho do you view it then in sequential order?

i tried that and created the sequential order through this plugin
http://sunyit-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/#[[PopTag%20PlugIn]]


this is very nice to make sections of tiddlers into tiddlers and still
keep them transcluded, but for that i need to

cut the section
create a new tiddler
paste the section
name the tiddler
tag the tiddler with the title of the source tiddler
and write in oldtiddler at the position of the cuttet section the popt
makro

cant that be made in one click?

[Tobias Beer]

Haven't thought about that yet... will give the idea some thought. To begin with, I thought it were meaningful to separate #tags from other tags or tiddlers... or to even allow "#tag" as tiddler titles. Probably a twitter willl eventually be best. The easiest thing would be to just provide a link to the actual tiddler from the search results.

Tobias.

[Alex Hough]

I forget what this [1] was ...until now.

I was looking into coding videos in the wonderful world of accademia last year. The tool they all seem to use is NVivo

I think it would be wonderful for TW land to have evidence of TW use in Grounded Theory in accademic contexts and for TW to have an adaption so that non-corporates can do a bit of grounded research. Viva Emergence! [2]

Alex

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVivo

[2] ..erm .... yes .. ok .... i don't know .... its like emergence just happens ... to regular folks too!  #ExplanationForSloganearing

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[Niklas Wagner]

I have been using Tobias Beers hastags plugin for Grounded Theory Coding. I saved my Interview transcriptions as tiddlys and put an ! before each timestamp so that each timestamp would make a section. then i coded(what grounded theoy calls coding we call tagging) for categorys and put everywhere where my informants spoke about snails a #snail, weeds a #weed and so on. for apreciated values i put an $ like $order $beefreindly $eco.



when i am using th hastag macro i get an overview about all the sections with the hastag orderd

hastag x
  tiddler i
    section a
    section b
    section c

This is great and much better than WerftQDA, not to mention useng a very expensive non free program like MaxQDA. I want to Thank Tobias for this great Plugin,



For even better usage i would propose to have the following additions

1) an option would be good that only shows the hastags of a certain tiddler, so i can see the hastags in only one interview. like <<hashtag TiddlerA>>

2) my sections a to big to see in on glace without scrolling  the position of the tag, an extra option of the hastag macro would be great that only lists the paragraph where the hastag is in instead of the whole section.

2a) (low priortiy) it would be very great if by clicking on the section, first the pragraph comes an by clicking on the paragrap the section opens. and py clicking on the section then the whole tiddler opens on the position of the hashtag

2b) (low priortiy i use the hastag plugin to find interesting sections in my interview transcriptions that i can use for citation and  writing about. when i mark text to copy it i have to mark the text and leave the mousecoursor outside of the textbox or it closes.
solution would be that the opening n closing of the sections is not done by clicking on them bot by a button.

3) the ordering of the sections in the listing of the hastag macro dont make a tifference between ! or !! or !!!

when i have an subsection !!2:00 in section !003 then it is listed before !!3:00 in section !001 .   

hastag x
  tiddler i
    section 2:00
    section 3:00
 


so it would be usefull to have the hieracy of sections in the list of the hastag plugin like

hastag x
  tiddler i
    section 001
       subsection 3:00
    section 003
       subsection 2:00

[Alex Hough]

Niklas,

I am revisiting this thread. I wonder if you could report how using TW for grounded theory turned out for you

best wishes

Alex

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