Announcing another Sidebar TiddlyWiki!
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Morris Gray
Apr 2, 2008, 6:40:21 PM4/2/08
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In the Giffmex style :-) I would like to announce that I took the
sidebar challenge and here is my offering.
You can now have a Tiddlywiki handy at all times while you surf. You
can create tiddlers or journals in the side bar while you're supposed
to be doing something else; I figure it will be popular with
tiddlycrastinaters as well as efficiency affectionados. Now you can
try out some of your TiddlyWiki ideas between other productive
endeavors. You might even want it on your phone :-)
Serious though I would appreciate any feedback on oversights and bugs
or for changes or improvements.
Download and try it here: http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
sidebar challenge and here is my offering.
You can now have a Tiddlywiki handy at all times while you surf. You
can create tiddlers or journals in the side bar while you're supposed
to be doing something else; I figure it will be popular with
tiddlycrastinaters as well as efficiency affectionados. Now you can
try out some of your TiddlyWiki ideas between other productive
endeavors. You might even want it on your phone :-)
Serious though I would appreciate any feedback on oversights and bugs
or for changes or improvements.
Download and try it here: http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
query
Apr 2, 2008, 8:07:57 PM4/2/08
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Morris,
I liked it. A very nice Firefox sidebar TW with all the necessities
arranged to be viewed and handily opened.
The orange on the viewed menus washed out a bit on my system and the
editing/done/close/delete menus did not show up on my tiddlers.
Very smartly done and a challenge well met.
Thanks.
> Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
I liked it. A very nice Firefox sidebar TW with all the necessities
arranged to be viewed and handily opened.
The orange on the viewed menus washed out a bit on my system and the
editing/done/close/delete menus did not show up on my tiddlers.
Very smartly done and a challenge well met.
Thanks.
Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/
Apr 2, 2008, 8:38:14 PM4/2/08
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In the Giffmex style :-) I would like to announce...
:-) indeed!
> Serious though I would appreciate any feedback on oversights and bugs
> or for changes or improvements.
One quibble I have with both sidebar TWs that came out today is that
they have Headers with SiteTitles, and thick ones at that, moving
everything too far down. This makes sense to have in the webpage, but
it takes up valuable room in the sidebar of the browser. Maybe a
modest fine print credit in the top menu and the removal of the
sitetitle and sitesubtitle from the pagetemplate would be more
appropriate?
But both yours and Mythos were nicely done, so I hate to quibble.
Dave
:-) indeed!
> Serious though I would appreciate any feedback on oversights and bugs
> or for changes or improvements.
they have Headers with SiteTitles, and thick ones at that, moving
everything too far down. This makes sense to have in the webpage, but
it takes up valuable room in the sidebar of the browser. Maybe a
modest fine print credit in the top menu and the removal of the
sitetitle and sitesubtitle from the pagetemplate would be more
appropriate?
But both yours and Mythos were nicely done, so I hate to quibble.
Dave
spacev...@gmail.com
Apr 2, 2008, 11:14:20 PM4/2/08
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beautiful... really is... will steal some palette stuff...
-Juergen
> Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
-Juergen
Morris Gray
Apr 3, 2008, 12:59:41 AM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 1:14 pm, "spacevult...@gmail.com" <spacevult...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dave talked me out of my beautiful banner that I could have just sat
and stared at for hours because of the optical illusions. The two
colours caused it look exaggerated three dimensional and the text
looked like it had a drop shadow - (but didn't) a rare find in colours
beating together. - A 16 million to one chance - I am copyrighting it
and when it comes through I will license it to you reasonably :-)
Morris Gray
wrote:
> beautiful... really is... will steal some palette stuff...
> -Juergen
Whoops..... palette what's a pallette :-) Thanks for the kind words
> -Juergen
Dave talked me out of my beautiful banner that I could have just sat
and stared at for hours because of the optical illusions. The two
colours caused it look exaggerated three dimensional and the text
looked like it had a drop shadow - (but didn't) a rare find in colours
beating together. - A 16 million to one chance - I am copyrighting it
and when it comes through I will license it to you reasonably :-)
Morris Gray
Morris Gray
Apr 3, 2008, 1:42:20 AM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 10:38 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"
Dave, think your chair must be too high if my beautiful banner made
you stoop to read what was below it. Surely you must have known that
3D effect wasn't real but only an illusion; you needn't have bent over
to look under it :-)
At any rate I listened to your advice over my ego and made the heading
much smaller. Even so I think it being in a sidebar beside your
TiddlyWikis will make them both look better...hee :-)
Sidebar Notes is going to become more useful as it evolves; have
another look at it. It's only a few hours old and it already has some
of the most sought after info on it the HTML, Latin, Greek etc
Entities http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Soon it will be to your trusty companion; ready to help just as Tonto
was to the lone Ranger Poncho was to the Cisco Kid, The three
Stooges was... to .....that doesn't work...
You need not download it everyday, just bookmark the URL and have it
load in your sidebar.
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Another bar you will hate to leave
Dave, think your chair must be too high if my beautiful banner made
you stoop to read what was below it. Surely you must have known that
3D effect wasn't real but only an illusion; you needn't have bent over
to look under it :-)
At any rate I listened to your advice over my ego and made the heading
much smaller. Even so I think it being in a sidebar beside your
TiddlyWikis will make them both look better...hee :-)
Sidebar Notes is going to become more useful as it evolves; have
another look at it. It's only a few hours old and it already has some
of the most sought after info on it the HTML, Latin, Greek etc
Entities http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Soon it will be to your trusty companion; ready to help just as Tonto
was to the lone Ranger Poncho was to the Cisco Kid, The three
Stooges was... to .....that doesn't work...
You need not download it everyday, just bookmark the URL and have it
load in your sidebar.
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Another bar you will hate to leave
Alex Hough
Apr 3, 2008, 4:18:41 AM4/3/08
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Morris,
Congratulations. It looks very cool. I like the way the the main functions are clustered round search.
Alex
Congratulations. It looks very cool. I like the way the the main functions are clustered round search.
Alex
FND
Apr 3, 2008, 4:27:32 AM4/3/08
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Nicely done, Morris.
I especially like how the controls are grouped around the search field!
The colors are hurting my eyes though (no offense - as you might recall,
I'm colorly challenged myself).
Also, there's a gap between the TiddlersBarPlugin's tabs and the display
area.
I especially like how the controls are grouped around the search field!
The colors are hurting my eyes though (no offense - as you might recall,
I'm colorly challenged myself).
Also, there's a gap between the TiddlersBarPlugin's tabs and the display
area.
> One quibble I have with both sidebar TWs that came out today is that
> they have Headers with SiteTitles, and thick ones at that, moving
> everything too far down.
I concur - though Morris' header is mostly functional.
-- F.
Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/
Apr 3, 2008, 8:02:42 AM4/3/08
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So, is there an easier way to open the sidebar TWs? The easiest way I
see is to go to View - Sidebar - Bookmarks, then find the sidebarnotes
tw, then choose it - every time I open my browser. You'd think it
would become one of the View - Sidebar. If I'm going to go through all
that, I may as well just have my to-do list TW in a separate tab. Or
maybe I'm missing something?
Dave
see is to go to View - Sidebar - Bookmarks, then find the sidebarnotes
tw, then choose it - every time I open my browser. You'd think it
would become one of the View - Sidebar. If I'm going to go through all
that, I may as well just have my to-do list TW in a separate tab. Or
maybe I'm missing something?
Dave
FND
Apr 3, 2008, 8:08:44 AM4/3/08
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> So, is there an easier way to open the sidebar TWs?
From the original Sidebar TiddlyWiki thread:
[...] with the following code the current document can be opened in the
sidebar:
---------------
<html>
<a href="#" target="_search">Open in sidebar</a>
</html>
---------------
Might be handy to have that somewhere in the MainMenu, maybe.
You can also make the respective bookmark always load in the sidebar;
there's a checkbox in the bookmark properties.
HTH.
-- F.
david.j....@gmail.com
Apr 3, 2008, 11:42:18 AM4/3/08
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I originally posted this in the other sidebar discussion but I will
post it here instead:
Is there some way to detect if a TW was opened and only use a
"sidebar" theme if opened in the sidebar, and use another theme if
opened in the main part of the browser?
Or could this be achieved by using a specific "code" following the
address of the file (as is done to open to a specific tiddler)?
Might be nice to show different default tiddlers based on where it was
opened too.
On Apr 3, 12:59 am, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 1:14 pm, "spacevult...@gmail.com" <spacevult...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > beautiful... really is... will steal some palette stuff...
> > -Juergen
>
> Whoops..... palette what's a pallette :-) Thanks for the kind words
>
> Dave talked me out of my beautiful banner that I could have just sat
> and stared at for hours because of the optical illusions. The two
> colours caused it look exaggerated three dimensional and the text
> looked like it had a drop shadow - (but didn't) a rare find in colours
> beating together. - A 16 million to one chance - I am copyrighting it
> and when it comes through I will license it to you reasonably :-)
>
post it here instead:
Is there some way to detect if a TW was opened and only use a
"sidebar" theme if opened in the sidebar, and use another theme if
opened in the main part of the browser?
Or could this be achieved by using a specific "code" following the
address of the file (as is done to open to a specific tiddler)?
Might be nice to show different default tiddlers based on where it was
opened too.
On Apr 3, 12:59 am, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 1:14 pm, "spacevult...@gmail.com" <spacevult...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > beautiful... really is... will steal some palette stuff...
> > -Juergen
>
> Whoops..... palette what's a pallette :-) Thanks for the kind words
>
> Dave talked me out of my beautiful banner that I could have just sat
> and stared at for hours because of the optical illusions. The two
> colours caused it look exaggerated three dimensional and the text
> looked like it had a drop shadow - (but didn't) a rare find in colours
> beating together. - A 16 million to one chance - I am copyrighting it
> and when it comes through I will license it to you reasonably :-)
>
Morris Gray
Apr 3, 2008, 12:00:45 PM4/3/08
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Hi all,
I have followed up all the critique so far and this is my report.
1: query said:"The orange on the viewed menus washed out a bit on my
system."
This took a considerable time but I traced in down to an obscure <ul
li a:visited link color> in the menu stylesheet that only revealed
itself in IE and then only on the home button. Who knows about visited
links these days anyhow so I deleted it.
2: Dave said the the header was too big and of course it was in the
sidebar. What looked fine in a full screen didn't when compressed
into the sidebar. I have reduced its height to a more reasonable
percent of the window of the sidebar.
3: Thanks to Alex for his congratulations; it lifts one's spirit while
trying to trace down problems and makes the effort seem worthwhile.
4: Thanks to FND for the same reason. Your comments about the colors
is fair comment as red on green is well known for creating dazzle.
(That was part of my fascination for it; I'm attracted to shiny
objects:-) fSo I have changed the text to black but kept the vivid
gradient I wonder if that helps ease your eyes?
5: Dave's comment about ease of loading in the sidebar is a good one
and thanks to FND's interesting little script it was too tempting not
to put it on the menu. I started using it from almost the minute I
put it on.
I've got tool tips on almost all of the menu items since a few are
unusual, but how do you stop the standard 'author and date tooltip' ?
I've seen how somewhere long ago...... I still want the toolbars to
toggle; although it can be tedious sometimes I think the clean look
without the toolbars and title is worth it. I suppose they could be
made to hover on mouseover......but recovering the space would cause
jumping motion that would annoy me more than toggling it manually.
I am not afraid of the backstage anymore. I can do with it almost what
I want. I've got the backstage/close button to always remain in the
right hand corner and centered in my header no matter what the screen
size. I figure if you can't get rid of the damned thing you might as
well make it look like part of the design :-)
I am ready for he next round of suggestions etc. We can start thinking
about using it for something :-)
I see it used in two broad ways. First as a general reference tool
for TiddlyWiki reference stuff and links etc. that can be part of the
standard download along with a variety of other optional tiddlers for
special use. Second for users to customize it for a myriad of uses
which is as varied as there are people.
I think is is a good example for having a reason for using some of the
new features such sharing tiddlers, importing/exporting synchronizing
etc. being brought more into general/daily use. I know I'd like to get
to know how to use some of these things.
I thinkTiddlyWiki has found a niche. I can hear the gears turning in
Dave's head already; FND's too :-)
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
The bar where everybody knows your name
I have followed up all the critique so far and this is my report.
1: query said:"The orange on the viewed menus washed out a bit on my
system."
This took a considerable time but I traced in down to an obscure <ul
li a:visited link color> in the menu stylesheet that only revealed
itself in IE and then only on the home button. Who knows about visited
links these days anyhow so I deleted it.
2: Dave said the the header was too big and of course it was in the
sidebar. What looked fine in a full screen didn't when compressed
into the sidebar. I have reduced its height to a more reasonable
percent of the window of the sidebar.
3: Thanks to Alex for his congratulations; it lifts one's spirit while
trying to trace down problems and makes the effort seem worthwhile.
4: Thanks to FND for the same reason. Your comments about the colors
is fair comment as red on green is well known for creating dazzle.
(That was part of my fascination for it; I'm attracted to shiny
objects:-) fSo I have changed the text to black but kept the vivid
gradient I wonder if that helps ease your eyes?
5: Dave's comment about ease of loading in the sidebar is a good one
and thanks to FND's interesting little script it was too tempting not
to put it on the menu. I started using it from almost the minute I
put it on.
I've got tool tips on almost all of the menu items since a few are
unusual, but how do you stop the standard 'author and date tooltip' ?
I've seen how somewhere long ago...... I still want the toolbars to
toggle; although it can be tedious sometimes I think the clean look
without the toolbars and title is worth it. I suppose they could be
made to hover on mouseover......but recovering the space would cause
jumping motion that would annoy me more than toggling it manually.
I am not afraid of the backstage anymore. I can do with it almost what
I want. I've got the backstage/close button to always remain in the
right hand corner and centered in my header no matter what the screen
size. I figure if you can't get rid of the damned thing you might as
well make it look like part of the design :-)
I am ready for he next round of suggestions etc. We can start thinking
about using it for something :-)
I see it used in two broad ways. First as a general reference tool
for TiddlyWiki reference stuff and links etc. that can be part of the
standard download along with a variety of other optional tiddlers for
special use. Second for users to customize it for a myriad of uses
which is as varied as there are people.
I think is is a good example for having a reason for using some of the
new features such sharing tiddlers, importing/exporting synchronizing
etc. being brought more into general/daily use. I know I'd like to get
to know how to use some of these things.
I thinkTiddlyWiki has found a niche. I can hear the gears turning in
Dave's head already; FND's too :-)
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
The bar where everybody knows your name
query
Apr 3, 2008, 1:39:00 PM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 12:00 pm, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have followed up all the critique so far and this is my report.
>
> 1: query said:"The orange on the viewed menus washed out a bit on my
> system."
>
> This took a considerable time but I traced in down to an obscure <ul
> li a:visited link color> in the menu stylesheet that only revealed
> itself in IE and then only on the home button. Who knows about visited
> links these days anyhow so I deleted it.
>
Sorry about your spending that much time on such a nit, and it finally
dawned on me why I missed the Tiddler edit options.
Since the description mouseover on the menu item "Toolbar" said
"Toggle Sidebar", I assumed it was referring to the usual sidebar
items and didn't click it. Probably would be better described as
"Toggle Tiddler Toolbar".
A very well constructed and handy tool and thanks for bringing this.
Morris Gray
Apr 3, 2008, 5:26:46 PM4/3/08
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Not really that much trouble, query. I picked up that tool tip error
later, plus a few more; sorry about that:-) It's nice to know someone
really reads tooltips.
Anyhow thanks for the compliments. And keep us informed of some of the
uses you put it to, or any ideas you have. I've added a few more
bits to it overnight trying to get it to an undefined stopping place
so I can get something else done
I've added the 'load in sidebar' button that Dave wanted via the
script FND so generously provided. And a bit of an 'about TiddlyWiki"
written by Jeremy as a starting place. Have another look at it. In
fact visit it early and often like you would any bar :-)
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
The bar were you always find a friend
later, plus a few more; sorry about that:-) It's nice to know someone
really reads tooltips.
Anyhow thanks for the compliments. And keep us informed of some of the
uses you put it to, or any ideas you have. I've added a few more
bits to it overnight trying to get it to an undefined stopping place
so I can get something else done
I've added the 'load in sidebar' button that Dave wanted via the
script FND so generously provided. And a bit of an 'about TiddlyWiki"
written by Jeremy as a starting place. Have another look at it. In
fact visit it early and often like you would any bar :-)
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
The bar were you always find a friend
Ouroboros
Apr 3, 2008, 7:44:27 PM4/3/08
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Fabulous work, MG!
The next nifty trick would be to send text highlighted in the main
window to an open tiddler in the sidebar wiki, maybe with a right-
click context-menu option.
The next nifty trick would be to send text highlighted in the main
window to an open tiddler in the sidebar wiki, maybe with a right-
click context-menu option.
Morris Gray
Apr 3, 2008, 11:17:28 PM4/3/08
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Thanks Ouroboro I'm glad you appreciate it.
I usually grant people who praise my work <The Magic One Wish>
Anything at all!
Too bad you didn't ask for something more tangible Alas what you ask
is hard but not impossible for I have just granted it. I've just made
some adjustments to grant your wish and uploaded it.
Follow these instructions exactly they look tedious but it's only
because there are in such detail
:
Go to http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com and follow the information on
the Instructions tab to download it to yourcomputer SidebarNotes
latest version must be on your computer for this to work. If you'
already have it on your computer you do not have the magic version. Go
download it again.
1: When it is on your disk and with the sidebar closed click on the
menu in the main window to load SidebarNotes into the sidebar.
2: Now got to SidebarNotes you just loaded into the sidebar and create
a new tiddler by clicking 'new tiddler'.
3: Now Click on toolbar on the menu to toggle the toolbars visible.
4: Now type something personal in the open tiddler, nothing fancy,
just a little something that only you know so you will know I haven't
tricked you somehow. Don't even give it a title yet.
5: GO back TO the MAIN WINDOW now..
6: Near the search box click on Options and make sure the 'title' and
'text' are ticked in the tick boxes
7: Now in the search box type the word "Magic" and click search.
8: There should only be one tiddler returned DO NOT READ IT YET!
10: Now go back TO THE SIDEBAR
11: Go to your open tiddler with your secret information in it and
follow the instructions you just received..
12: Name it :"Magic" and seal it by clicking "done" in the toolbar.
(you may have to toggle the toolbars back visible again)
13: To finalize this procedure go to the upper right corner of the
SIDEBAR and click "backstage" to drop down the menu. and save it.
Be surprised that you now have proof positive that your wish was
fulfiled. Just think ; you could have had a package of TimTams that
never ran empty, or a Porsche Carrera..............:-)
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
I usually grant people who praise my work <The Magic One Wish>
Anything at all!
Too bad you didn't ask for something more tangible Alas what you ask
is hard but not impossible for I have just granted it. I've just made
some adjustments to grant your wish and uploaded it.
Follow these instructions exactly they look tedious but it's only
because there are in such detail
:
Go to http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com and follow the information on
the Instructions tab to download it to yourcomputer SidebarNotes
latest version must be on your computer for this to work. If you'
already have it on your computer you do not have the magic version. Go
download it again.
1: When it is on your disk and with the sidebar closed click on the
menu in the main window to load SidebarNotes into the sidebar.
2: Now got to SidebarNotes you just loaded into the sidebar and create
a new tiddler by clicking 'new tiddler'.
3: Now Click on toolbar on the menu to toggle the toolbars visible.
4: Now type something personal in the open tiddler, nothing fancy,
just a little something that only you know so you will know I haven't
tricked you somehow. Don't even give it a title yet.
5: GO back TO the MAIN WINDOW now..
6: Near the search box click on Options and make sure the 'title' and
'text' are ticked in the tick boxes
7: Now in the search box type the word "Magic" and click search.
8: There should only be one tiddler returned DO NOT READ IT YET!
10: Now go back TO THE SIDEBAR
11: Go to your open tiddler with your secret information in it and
follow the instructions you just received..
12: Name it :"Magic" and seal it by clicking "done" in the toolbar.
(you may have to toggle the toolbars back visible again)
13: To finalize this procedure go to the upper right corner of the
SIDEBAR and click "backstage" to drop down the menu. and save it.
Be surprised that you now have proof positive that your wish was
fulfiled. Just think ; you could have had a package of TimTams that
never ran empty, or a Porsche Carrera..............:-)
Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Morris Gray
Apr 3, 2008, 11:37:39 PM4/3/08
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Morris Gray
http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
On Apr 4, 9:44 am, Ouroboros <wurm.ourobo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Morris Gray
Apr 3, 2008, 11:41:31 PM4/3/08
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Whoops I forgot to tell you to read the message before saving
Morris
On Apr 4, 1:17 pm, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
> Thanks Ouroboro I'm glad you appreciate it.
>
> I usually grant people who praise my work <The Magic One Wish>
> Anything at all!
> Too bad you didn't ask for something more tangible Alas what you ask
> is hard but not impossible for I have just granted it. I've just made
> some adjustments to grant your wish and uploaded it.
>
> Follow these instructions exactly they look tedious but it's only
> because there are in such detail
> :
> Go tohttp://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.comand follow the information on
> Morris Grayhttp://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
Morris
On Apr 4, 1:17 pm, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
> Thanks Ouroboro I'm glad you appreciate it.
>
> I usually grant people who praise my work <The Magic One Wish>
> Anything at all!
> Too bad you didn't ask for something more tangible Alas what you ask
> is hard but not impossible for I have just granted it. I've just made
> some adjustments to grant your wish and uploaded it.
>
> Follow these instructions exactly they look tedious but it's only
> because there are in such detail
> :
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