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FND

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Mar 29, 2008, 2:38:36 PM3/29/08
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Hello all,

A recent article on Lifehacker* has made me realize that TiddlyWiki
would be the perfect tool to place important notes and links into the
browser's sidebar.

All that's needed is a little customization, possibly inspired by
existing themes for handheld devices (e.g. iTW; http://itw.bidix.info).

I'm just throwing this idea out there in case anyone's interested in
creating such an adaptation - I don't think I'll produce anything myself
anytime soon.


-- F.


* http://tinyurl.com/2w5gfp
(http://lifehacker.com/373236/customize-your-own-firefox-sidebar-web-page)

Mythos

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Apr 1, 2008, 10:09:26 PM4/1/08
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On Mar 29, 1:38 pm, FND <F...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> A recent article onLifehacker* has made me realize that TiddlyWiki
After a bit of work, I managed to create a TiddlyWiki for just that.
It can be found at
http://duanehubbard.googlepages.com/sbtiddly.html

Any suggestions on how to improve it, would be appreciated.

I removed the sidebar, and placed the tabs and other options in
sliders at the top. It works great on my two systems (Linux with FF
3.0B4 and WinXP with FF 2.0.0.8), one has a wide screen monitor, the
other is a standard sized monitor.

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Apr 1, 2008, 10:21:11 PM4/1/08
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Congratulations! A TiddlyWiki adaptation of mythical proportions from
Mythos. Well done. Nice simple instructions, too.

Dave

Mythos

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Apr 1, 2008, 10:54:10 PM4/1/08
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Thanks, I appreciate the compliment.

On Apr 1, 9:21 pm, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

FND

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Apr 2, 2008, 1:55:25 AM4/2/08
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> After a bit of work, I managed to create a TiddlyWiki for just that.
> It can be found at
> http://duanehubbard.googlepages.com/sbtiddly.html

Nicely done!

I've noticed you've modified the StyleSheetLayout shadow tiddler. You
should never do that - use StyleSheet instead. More info here:
http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Style_Sheets

Also, with the following code the current document can be opened in the
sidebar:
---------------
<html>
<a href="#" target="_search">Open in sidebar</a>
</html>
---------------
Might be handy to have that somewhere in the MainMenu, maybe.


-- F.

David Keltie

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Apr 2, 2008, 7:22:12 AM4/2/08
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Hey - this is really cool. Now what can I use it for????

David

FND

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Apr 2, 2008, 8:51:24 AM4/2/08
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> All that's needed is a little customization, possibly inspired by
> existing themes for handheld devices (e.g. iTW; http://itw.bidix.info).

Based on iTW, BT's James Lelyveld has created the TiddlyMob theme:
http://tinyurl.com/2gu7fp
(http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/browser/Trunk/contributors/JamesLelyveld/TiddlyMob)

You can see it in action here (using Saq's TiddlyWiki Chef to cook the
recipe into a file):
http://tinyurl.com/2dzehv
(http://api.lewcid.org/chef/chef.cgi?recipe=http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/JamesLelyveld/TiddlyMob/TiddlyMob.html.recipe&stripcomments=true)

It's worth checking out.


-- F.

FND

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Apr 2, 2008, 8:53:12 AM4/2/08
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> Hey - this is really cool. Now what can I use it for????

Take a look at the original Lifehacker article, as well as the comments.
I'm sure they have a couple of suggestions there.


-- F.

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Apr 2, 2008, 9:20:56 AM4/2/08
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One idea: Make a refresh button available from the topmenu. Refreshing
the browser doesn't refresh the sidebar. Good for importing plugins,
etc.

Dave

rhonda

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Apr 2, 2008, 1:47:07 PM4/2/08
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> After a bit of work, I managed to create a TiddlyWiki for just that.
> It can be found athttp://duanehubbard.googlepages.com/sbtiddly.html
> Any suggestions on how to improve it, would be appreciated.

I love this idea...I have some custom sidebars for specific purposes,
but it's enough of a pain to edit them that I don't use this as much
as I could--a TW is the perfect way to get an easily editable "index"
of often-used links, as well as a place to put quickie notes and such.

Given the tall, thin sidebar, what I think would be best suited to
this application would be a variation of the VisualTW approach (http://
visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html) where open tiddlers are shown as
tabs. That way, one could choose quickly among several "panels"
without scrolling.

R.

Weidner

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Apr 2, 2008, 5:19:19 PM4/2/08
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On Apr 2, 8:20 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"
I'd like to second this idea. This would be also be great when hosted
at tiddlyspot.

SLW

Mythos

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Apr 2, 2008, 6:59:22 PM4/2/08
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I'll look into those, and other suggestions (issues) as soon as I can
- personal life suddenly became busy - give me a couple of days and
I'll upload an update.

Mythos

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Apr 2, 2008, 11:28:01 PM4/2/08
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Not a complete update, but some work was done - nothing going on at
work. I added the Tiddlyspot and upload plugin, added a button to
refresh the tiddly, and restored the StyleSheetLayout tiddler to it's
original state. If you want to play, feel free, but it is not really
ready yet. I'll post when I get it how I like it.
Here is the link to the slight update:
http://duanehubbard.googlepages.com/sbtiddly_0.1.1.html

Alex Hough

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Apr 3, 2008, 4:05:35 AM4/3/08
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Could there be a configuration where a TW spans across the sidebar in firefox and into the tabs?
The Sidebar TW could be like a menu TW

Alex

FND

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Apr 3, 2008, 4:17:07 AM4/3/08
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> Not a complete update, but some work was done

You're getting there - keep it up!
(Who would have thought my innocent suggestion would prompt such an
enthusiastic response... )

Just one suggestion: Add some horizontal padding (only 2-5px) to the
main containers.

> Could there be a configuration where a TW spans across the sidebar in
> firefox and into the tabs? The Sidebar TW could be like a menu TW

Sort of like a remote-control? That'd probably be possible, but not
without considerable effort.
Also, why not just create a theme with a sidebar on the left for that?


-- F.

FND

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Apr 3, 2008, 4:25:36 AM4/3/08
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> I [...]restored the StyleSheetLayout tiddler to it's original state.

It still shows up as a regular tiddler though - how did you restore it?
The proper way is to restore a shadow tiddler just delete the respective
tiddler - more info on the community wiki:
http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Shadow_Tiddlers


-- F.

david.j....@gmail.com

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Apr 3, 2008, 11:19:41 AM4/3/08
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Is there some code that could tell it to open to a specific theme when
opened in the sidebar. It would be nice to use this theme only when
in the sidebar and my normal theme when in the main part of the
browser.

Thanks,
David

Mythos

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Apr 3, 2008, 8:17:48 PM4/3/08
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On Apr 3, 3:05 am, "Alex Hough" <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Could there be a configuration where a TW spans across the sidebar in
> firefox and into the tabs?
> The Sidebar TW could be like a menu TW
>
I'm sure it could be done, but I won't be putting that on my plate for
a long time. I'm (somewhat) sure that a plug in could be designed for
that - but I currently don't have the knowledge to do that (which
makes me respect those that do have that kind of knowledge all that
much more).
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