Re: [tw] Using in donationware project?

[Jeremy Ruston]

I'm also not a lawyer, but I'm pretty confident that there is no problem using TiddlyWiki within a donationware project (or even a commercial project).

TiddlyWiki is actually published under a BSD license (visit tiddlywiki.com and view source in the browser to see it). The BSD license basically says that you can whatever you want with the code but that the code is not warranted in any way. It also requests an attribution notice so that users can see that TiddlyWiki is a component.

As you note, the complications arise with software published under the GPL license, which is not used by the TW core (although there may be plugins out there published under GPL).

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Jeremy Ruston

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On 13 Nov 2012, at 03:03, Nicholas Franks <tal...@gmail.com> wrote:

Can TiddlyWiki, or any derivative thereof, covered under the same GNU license, be used for the documentation for a donation-ware application?

It has been very difficult to get a response from anyone one this, or locate anything in the entire net-verse.  I am not an attorney, so I really have no clue if by using it for the documentation that I would be violating anything.

I have created an application.  It is very small, and as of right now only about 20 people have even downloaded it.  My application is donation-ware, similar to free-ware.

As small as my application is, it requires a lot of documentation, and needs to display a lot of images.  Using .chm files is horrible and does not look good at all.  In turn I'd really like to use TiddlyWiki, or WoaS, in order to have offline documentation for my application.

In order to create the proper shortcuts on the users start menu, I would have to package the page in the installer.  Alternately, I would like to use a very small WebBrowser control on a separate viewing app to display the page without being able to navigate to anything else - pretty much an offline browser with no navigation controls limited to the documentation only.  (source code for it consists of 1 line...)

My application however, is not open source.  It is covered under a very generic freeware license.  Essentially I am somewhat stuck on whether or not I can use either TiddlyWiki or WoaS for documenting my application, and/or using the created page in a browser control limiting navigation, and/or packaging the page in the installer for the purpose of creating a shortcut to the page...

Please help with some clarification as I am held up on finishing the remaining wiki pages until I can definitively know one way or another for certain.

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[PMario]

On Nov 13, 4:01 am, Nicholas Franks <tale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can TiddlyWiki, or any derivative thereof, ...
As Jeremy points out, TW itself is BSD licensed but if you are using a
"derivative" that are around the web, it is very common, that these
modified versions use 3rd party plugins.

With TW every plugin can have it's own license. Many of them are very
open too. eg: MIT license, BSD or Creative Commons (to name just a
view).

But be aware:

CC has some restrictive versions eg: CC-by-nc-sa ...
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
and
some "open" versions: eg CC-by ... https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

It depends on the plugin author - Just contact them, if you need 3rd
party plugins. Licenses can be changed.

have fun!
mario
PS: I'm not a lawyer. The above reflects my understanding, which may
be wrong ;)

[Nicholas Franks]

Thanks for the clarifications.

I was unaware of the differences between TiddlyWiki and WoaS, and the varying licenses involved.  For my purposes I was going to use WoaS, but due to the licensing I am going to use TiddlyWiki.  I will be open sourcing the very small viewer that I am including with my app that will simply display the documentation page that I am heavily modifying so the end user has only the ability to view the documentation.  This may provide a useful idea for other who wish to use something better than .chm files for documenting.

I'm also going to be adding a credit section on my app where I have the donations at mentioning TiddlyWiki being used for the documentation.  Likewise, something on the document page around the line of "build using TiddlyWiki...".

Were I an actual software developer this would probably be a lot easier...but I'm not.  I'm just a guy, who made a program for myself that others have found useful, and have just upgraded it.  Due to my user base and the way the program works I require a lot of documentation and picture-heavy walk-throughs.  I probably could have just went with it since my app has such a small user base no one would have known, but I felt only right in asking before I did.

Thanks,
Nicholas