Problems to add a new member to tiddlyspace

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Cyrill

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Dec 17, 2012, 8:59:40 AM12/17/12
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Hi,

actually in some of my tiddlyspace it is not possible to add new member beside the admin ...
Need I a special tiddlyspace to include, exist a plugin for that ?

Best regards

cdent

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Dec 18, 2012, 8:42:57 AM12/18/12
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It ought to work, so we should be able to solve this.

Can you let me know, either in response to this message, or directly
to me the following information:

* your tiddlyspace username
* the spaces in which you are unable to add members
* whether you are getting an error or just don't get the interface to
do the adding

The most common reason why this sort of thing happens is that core
admin functionality has been duplicated into your space, rather than
using existing functionality. When the core functionality is updated,
your space doesn't see the updates and things go wrong.

cdent

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Dec 18, 2012, 8:44:40 AM12/18/12
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BTW: I should mention that questions like this (about tiddlyspace)
will be seen more quickly if they are posted to the tiddlyspace group:

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyspace
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Cyrill

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Dec 18, 2012, 12:52:29 PM12/18/12
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Hi again

sorry the written posting is gone,

the error concerned most of my tiddlyspaces light@tiddlyspace tag@tiddlyspace or tworightfor@tiddlyspace.

The errors occurs after typing in the interface and inform that the entered member name does not exist, that the member could not be created.

TX and best regards

chris...@gmail.com

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Dec 18, 2012, 1:20:54 PM12/18/12
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2012, Cyrill wrote:

> the error concerned most of my tiddlyspaces light@tiddlyspace
> tag@tiddlyspace or tworightfor@tiddlyspace.

@light and @tworightfor appear to be healthy in terms of their
contents, what usernames are you trying in those spaces. Keep in mind
that users must already exist on the TiddlySpace system.

@tag includes it's own copy of many of the core tiddlers, including
_space:

http://tag.tiddlyspace.com/bags/tag_public/tiddlers/_space

This is not a good idea as it will break the core functionality. At
http://tag.tiddlyspace.com/_space it may be the case that you won't
even be given the option to try to add a user.

Do you recall what you did in that space to clone all those tiddlers
into your own space?

Are you aware of the difference between importing tiddlers and
including a space? If not I can explain it more clearly.

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Cyrill

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Dec 18, 2012, 1:51:54 PM12/18/12
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OK I see ,
the problem is that I using a large Protfolie of TW and tiddlyspaces. I know that normally it is suffisant to include spaces to get all the function of some spaces, but in the projets evolution sometime I imported Plugins direcly from local TWs.

The copy of core function is possible by some importing a Download about the backstage from local disk of older versions of the same tiddlyspace.
Is there a possibility to clean that space by preserving its actual content.

How to add a second member (guest) with no admin rights without beenig already member in tiddlyspace? Or should I understand your words to double my own membership by creating a new tiddlyspace?

Regards

chris...@gmail.com

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Dec 18, 2012, 5:09:09 PM12/18/12
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2012, Cyrill wrote:

> The copy of core function is possible by some importing a Download about
> the backstage from local disk of older versions of the same tiddlyspace.
> Is there a possibility to clean that space by preserving its actual content.

There's no quick solution.

But one option is to include the "apps" space, which includes a
"bulkdelete" app that you can run to select tiddlers you want to
delete.

After you do the include, you can reach the app at /bulkdelete

> How to add a second member (guest) with no admin rights without beenig
> already member in tiddlyspace? Or should I understand your words to double
> my own membership by creating a new tiddlyspace?

TiddlySpace is set up so that you are either a member of a space or
you are not. Anyone who is a member has all the same permissions as
any other member (edit, delete, add more members). An appropriate
metaphor might be that members are housemates, not house guests.

So there's no concept of a member who is not an editor.

The usual process for adding members to a space is:

* Ask them to create a user (and their own space) on TiddySpace
* They tell you their username
* You add them to the sapce

If you have content which is private and you want to allow people who
are not members to be able to read it there aren't straightforward ways
to make that possible.

Some options are:

* http://privateer.tiddlyspace.com
* Adjusting the policy[1] of the bags that make up the space.


[1] http://tiddlyweb.tiddlyspace.com/policy
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