History of Tiddlywiki

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Richard Niolon

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Jul 20, 2011, 2:55:34 PM7/20/11
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Hi All
Maybe this is out there and I just can't find it... but I'm doing a presentation next week for teachers on using a TiddlyWiki for class websites.  I wanted to just include a brief bit about the history of the Tiddlywiki project - when it started, how long before it "took off", why Jeremy started it, maybe what he was thinking when he went open source with it instead of making $oftware ("oh what the hell..." or "Fear me Microsoft!"... :)

I just want a paragraph or so of that kind of information just to frame the background of it.

Does anyone know where I might find this?  (Or Jeremy, if you see this, maybe you could just write a quick paragraph on this :)

Thanks
Rich

Poul

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Jul 22, 2011, 5:41:19 AM7/22/11
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I remember reading Jeremy's own account, but I can't remember where. I
have, however followed it pretty much from the start, and I guess it's
safe to say that the release 1.x versions, that Jeremy published in
2004, were very experimental. It was sort-of a write-only web page in
that you could add content and the browser would hold it and present
an index, let you add hyperlinks, etc - but you couldn't actually save
anything permanently. Nevertheless, many people immediately recognized
it's potential. Release 2.0, which came in late 2005, was a big step
forward, with an architecture that was designed for extensibility,
allowing for the vast range of plugins, derivatives and applications.

- Poul
http://giewiki.appspot.com - http://code.google.com/p/giewiki

PMario

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Jul 22, 2011, 7:05:40 AM7/22/11
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Hi Rich,
If you follow this link [1] you'll see a little bit of history chat.
Just open the posts till the end of the thread ...

[1]
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/fa354a63e9eb4ac8/b7b65e85b2d5d2d7?lnk=gst&q=talkytalky#b7b65e85b2d5d2d7

I followed the links below and made some screenshots. Manly to get the
different themes.

about talkytalky (it seems to be the very first fersion):
http://www.osmosoft.com/talkytalky/twiddlywiki.html
first version: http://tiddlywiki.com/firstversion.html
second version: http://www.tiddlywiki.com/secondversion.html

newer stuff:

translations: http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Translations
the archive: http://tiddlywiki.com/archive/

Tiddlywik.com contains little info and links
http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#ThirdVersion%20SecondVersion%20FirstVersion

Theemes:
new: http://themes.tiddlyspace.com/#Welcome
old: http://tiddlythemes.com/

hope this helps
-m

Scott Simmons

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Jul 23, 2011, 9:57:56 PM7/23/11
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There's an Osmo video on YouTube worth a watch as well:
 

Jeremy Ruston

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Jul 26, 2011, 10:29:12 AM7/26/11
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Hiya

Sorry to be late to this thread - perhaps you've already had to hand
in your project?

There are a few notes in my TiddlySpace that might be helpful:

http://jermolene.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BHistory%20of%20TiddlyWiki%20serversides%5D%5D%20%5B%5BHistory%20of%20the%20TiddlyWiki%20user%20interface%5D%5D

short link - http://bit.ly/r1bUVx

I'm reliably terrible at writing things down; feel free to ask any questions

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Richard Niolon

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:06:37 AM7/28/11
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Hi All
My thanks - this has been helpful and interesting!

I would recommend (in your spare time Jeremy) that you should formally
write something about this - I think TiddlyWiki is really amazing
software, and a good case study too for how open source can work :)

As for what I presented... If you're interested see
http://www.psychpage.com/learning/im-not-crazy-about-ecollege-either-so-now-what.html

Basically, we have an impressively mediocre software to create course
websites, and I presented on using a tiddlywiki to create the guts of
the site for students, and then insert that into the course website
shell. You can see the TiddlyWiki I've modified above.

Thanks all :)
Rich

Jeremy Ruston

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:18:25 AM7/28/11
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Hi Richard

Thanks for the comments, much appreciated. Of course, I love your
attitude of taking control and fixing things for yourself.

I'm *terrible* at writing things down of my own volition, as a rule,
but if anyone has any questions they'd like me to answer, I'm always
happy to do so.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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