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MummerX
Aug 15, 2011, 8:59:48 AM8/15/11
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Hi. I have been using an MPTW wiki on tiddlyspot.com for a few years
now, as a combined notebook and shortcuts organiser. It has become
totally indispensible to me both at home and at work.
I access it at home using Ubuntu Linux (Karmic) and Firefox 3-point-
something.
I also use it at work using Windows 7 Enterprise and Firefox 5.0 and/
or IE 8.
I have no problem at home. However, last week, there was a Windows
update rolled out to our work PCs, and since then I have been unable
to save my wiki back to tiddlyspot.com. Firefox just goes quiet, but
IE8 produces the following failure ...
Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; InfoPath.1)
Timestamp: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:30:00 UTC
Message: '0' is null or not an object
Line: 13162
Char: 5
Code: 0
URI: http://mummerx.tiddlyspot.com/
Message: '0' is null or not an object
Line: 13162
Char: 5
Code: 0
URI: http://mummerx.tiddlyspot.com/
I have tried looking at the JavaScript source code, but View-Source,
Save-Page-As, etc, (using IE 8 and Firefox 5) all give different
commands at line 13162, and I don't know which method to trust.
Grateful for any suggestions, but please don't ask me to try
installing or upgrading software. I am unable to do this. This PC is
locked down & managed by the company IT Support group. They are also
not prepared to help diagnose this problem (unfortunately) as it is
not part of the core business.
Many thanks in advance.
now, as a combined notebook and shortcuts organiser. It has become
totally indispensible to me both at home and at work.
I access it at home using Ubuntu Linux (Karmic) and Firefox 3-point-
something.
I also use it at work using Windows 7 Enterprise and Firefox 5.0 and/
or IE 8.
I have no problem at home. However, last week, there was a Windows
update rolled out to our work PCs, and since then I have been unable
to save my wiki back to tiddlyspot.com. Firefox just goes quiet, but
IE8 produces the following failure ...
Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; InfoPath.1)
Timestamp: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:30:00 UTC
Message: '0' is null or not an object
Line: 13162
Char: 5
Code: 0
URI: http://mummerx.tiddlyspot.com/
Message: '0' is null or not an object
Line: 13162
Char: 5
Code: 0
URI: http://mummerx.tiddlyspot.com/
I have tried looking at the JavaScript source code, but View-Source,
Save-Page-As, etc, (using IE 8 and Firefox 5) all give different
commands at line 13162, and I don't know which method to trust.
Grateful for any suggestions, but please don't ask me to try
installing or upgrading software. I am unable to do this. This PC is
locked down & managed by the company IT Support group. They are also
not prepared to help diagnose this problem (unfortunately) as it is
not part of the core business.
Many thanks in advance.
PMario
Aug 15, 2011, 11:29:47 AM8/15/11
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I did a short test with an updated Win7 (updated yesterday)
Win7 HomePremium
FF5.0
"Save to Web" to tiddlyspot works fine.
But "upload" from a file TW is broken since FF5
Win7 HomePremium
FF5.0
"Save to Web" to tiddlyspot works fine.
But "upload" from a file TW is broken since FF5
Måns
Aug 15, 2011, 12:03:12 PM8/15/11
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Hi MummerX
> Firefox just goes quiet, but
> IE8 produces the following failure ...
You can download firefox 4.0.1 as a portable app here:
http://tinyurl.com/5w5qnnf o your
Install it to your usb and run it from there...
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
> Firefox just goes quiet, but
> IE8 produces the following failure ...
http://tinyurl.com/5w5qnnf o your
Install it to your usb and run it from there...
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
MummerX
Aug 16, 2011, 10:46:44 AM8/16/11
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Well this is frustrating. I have had three goes at reporting what
happened when I tried a temp wiki on Tidllywiki, and lost each attempt
due to power cuts. :-(
I can't be bothered with a lot of typing any more, so here's the
bottom line.
Environment:
Home PC - Ubuntu (Karmic), Firefox 3.6.18
Work PC - Windows 7 Enterprise, Firefox 5, IE 8
The temp wiki was created OK (with one tiddler) on the home PC and
saved to the web. No problems.
I loaded it on the work PC using IE 8. And then it got messy with
error dialogs, stack overflows and the dreaded "Error in macro
<<tabs>>" (reported elsewhere).
Despite error dialogs I was able to edit the one tiddler, but the
attempt to save to web failed with the same error as reported before.
Firefox 5 fared better (no error dialogs), but to also did not save to
web - as before, I got "About to save..." then nothing.
Oh, and Firefox 5 also displayed the "Error in macro <<tabs>>" error,
from the moment I finished the trial edit tof the tiddler (before
attempting to save).
Summary of findings
I only use MPTW on Tiddlyspot - this applies to all wikis mentioned
below on Tiddlyspot.
My original old & large Tiddlyspot wiki was upgraded to the latest
wiki sw a few months back. I don't know if that makes it the latest
version or not (I don't know how to find out).
Said wiki always saved OK on both PCs until one day recently after a
large Windows update on the work PC.
Thereafter, attempting save to web on the work PC (Firefox or IE) no
longer completes, but I can still save to web fine on the home PC.
A newly created wiki on Tiddlyspace shows no errors at all - but is
probanly of less use to me, having got used to MPTW.
A newly created MPTW wiki on Tiddlyspot not only fails to save on the
work PC, but also causes IE 8 all sorts of grief, AND I now get "Error
in macro <<tabs>>" under both browsers after editing a tiddler.
"Error in macro <<tabs>>" also occurs now on the home PC, but only on
the new MPTW Tiddlyspot wiki, and only during an otherwise successful
save to web.
What's next?
Grateful for all your help chaps, but I think I am going to have to
dump Tiddlyspot - I just cannot rely on it, whereas Tiddlyspace seems
to work fine across all the platforms I use.
On the other hand, I do not relish the work involve3d in this, nor
possibly having to give up MPTW features I have grown used to.
Sometimes I really loathe computers.
PS - Phew - I got al lthis typed out (at speed) before the power went
down again. Sorry for any spelling mistakes.
happened when I tried a temp wiki on Tidllywiki, and lost each attempt
due to power cuts. :-(
I can't be bothered with a lot of typing any more, so here's the
bottom line.
Environment:
Home PC - Ubuntu (Karmic), Firefox 3.6.18
Work PC - Windows 7 Enterprise, Firefox 5, IE 8
The temp wiki was created OK (with one tiddler) on the home PC and
saved to the web. No problems.
I loaded it on the work PC using IE 8. And then it got messy with
error dialogs, stack overflows and the dreaded "Error in macro
<<tabs>>" (reported elsewhere).
Despite error dialogs I was able to edit the one tiddler, but the
attempt to save to web failed with the same error as reported before.
Firefox 5 fared better (no error dialogs), but to also did not save to
web - as before, I got "About to save..." then nothing.
Oh, and Firefox 5 also displayed the "Error in macro <<tabs>>" error,
from the moment I finished the trial edit tof the tiddler (before
attempting to save).
Summary of findings
I only use MPTW on Tiddlyspot - this applies to all wikis mentioned
below on Tiddlyspot.
My original old & large Tiddlyspot wiki was upgraded to the latest
wiki sw a few months back. I don't know if that makes it the latest
version or not (I don't know how to find out).
Said wiki always saved OK on both PCs until one day recently after a
large Windows update on the work PC.
Thereafter, attempting save to web on the work PC (Firefox or IE) no
longer completes, but I can still save to web fine on the home PC.
A newly created wiki on Tiddlyspace shows no errors at all - but is
probanly of less use to me, having got used to MPTW.
A newly created MPTW wiki on Tiddlyspot not only fails to save on the
work PC, but also causes IE 8 all sorts of grief, AND I now get "Error
in macro <<tabs>>" under both browsers after editing a tiddler.
"Error in macro <<tabs>>" also occurs now on the home PC, but only on
the new MPTW Tiddlyspot wiki, and only during an otherwise successful
save to web.
What's next?
Grateful for all your help chaps, but I think I am going to have to
dump Tiddlyspot - I just cannot rely on it, whereas Tiddlyspace seems
to work fine across all the platforms I use.
On the other hand, I do not relish the work involve3d in this, nor
possibly having to give up MPTW features I have grown used to.
Sometimes I really loathe computers.
PS - Phew - I got al lthis typed out (at speed) before the power went
down again. Sorry for any spelling mistakes.
MummerX
Aug 16, 2011, 7:35:01 AM8/16/11
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Grateful thanks for the feedback
Note: My Win7-Ent work PC does not have USB ports, FD, CD or DVD disk
bays. Also, all s/w downloads (excpet MS updates) are blocked. Totally
locked down.
Now this is interesting - I tried a temp wiki on Tiddlyspace.com last
night. I am now at work and I have just found out that I ca update
this wiki from work.
I will try a temp Tiddlyspot wiki next and see if that still has the
problem. - I will report my findings.
Unless there's no solution for my current Tiddlyspot.com wiki, I may
have to transfer it across.
Thanks again.
-- MummerX
On Aug 15, 5:03 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi MummerX
>
> > Firefox just goes quiet, but
> > IE8 produces the following failure ...
>
> You can download firefox 4.0.1 as a portable app here:http://tinyurl.com/5w5qnnfo your
Note: My Win7-Ent work PC does not have USB ports, FD, CD or DVD disk
bays. Also, all s/w downloads (excpet MS updates) are blocked. Totally
locked down.
Now this is interesting - I tried a temp wiki on Tiddlyspace.com last
night. I am now at work and I have just found out that I ca update
this wiki from work.
I will try a temp Tiddlyspot wiki next and see if that still has the
problem. - I will report my findings.
Unless there's no solution for my current Tiddlyspot.com wiki, I may
have to transfer it across.
Thanks again.
-- MummerX
On Aug 15, 5:03 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi MummerX
>
> > Firefox just goes quiet, but
> > IE8 produces the following failure ...
>
PMario
Aug 16, 2011, 1:41:50 PM8/16/11
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I did see the <<tabs>> error some time ago. I am not sure, where it
comes from. But I did clear the browser cookies for this tiddlyspot
TW. Did a [shift][relaod] and the error was gone, using FF5. Did no
deeper investigation.
To see the version of a TW core, just use <<version>>. to see MPTW
version use <<mptwVersion>>
You can check out my nostalgia theme [1] at tiddlyspace. I use the
taggly tagging concept and some other stuff there. It isn't MPTW but
may be worth a look :) It can be used with the TS include mechanism.
-m
[1] http://nostalgia.tiddlyspace.com/
comes from. But I did clear the browser cookies for this tiddlyspot
TW. Did a [shift][relaod] and the error was gone, using FF5. Did no
deeper investigation.
To see the version of a TW core, just use <<version>>. to see MPTW
version use <<mptwVersion>>
You can check out my nostalgia theme [1] at tiddlyspace. I use the
taggly tagging concept and some other stuff there. It isn't MPTW but
may be worth a look :) It can be used with the TS include mechanism.
-m
[1] http://nostalgia.tiddlyspace.com/
Måns
Aug 16, 2011, 2:57:36 PM8/16/11
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Hi MummerX
> Unless there's no solution for my current Tiddlyspot.com wiki, I may
> have to transfer it across.
I've set up a tiddlyspace meant for inclusion here:
http://mamagsd.tiddlyspace.com/
You can include it as mamagsd in the lefthand menu at the backstage..
It seems to work allright, however it doesn't save everything on the
fly, so you'll have to click "save changes" once in a while.. (You
will notice when sth isn't automatically saved when you watch the
changing TiddlySpace icon at the center of the backstage menu bar - or
if you try to leave the page. You'll get an alert..)
Please test/use it - and tell if it doesn't work as expected..
I won't make any changes to mamagsd and I'm not planning to maintain
it - as I don't use gsd myself.
In other words: You are free (as always with these TW-things ...) to
use it as a platform to "grow your own .."
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
> Unless there's no solution for my current Tiddlyspot.com wiki, I may
> have to transfer it across.
http://mamagsd.tiddlyspace.com/
You can include it as mamagsd in the lefthand menu at the backstage..
It seems to work allright, however it doesn't save everything on the
fly, so you'll have to click "save changes" once in a while.. (You
will notice when sth isn't automatically saved when you watch the
changing TiddlySpace icon at the center of the backstage menu bar - or
if you try to leave the page. You'll get an alert..)
Please test/use it - and tell if it doesn't work as expected..
I won't make any changes to mamagsd and I'm not planning to maintain
it - as I don't use gsd myself.
In other words: You are free (as always with these TW-things ...) to
use it as a platform to "grow your own .."
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
Bauwe Bijl
Aug 16, 2011, 4:29:56 PM8/16/11
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Hi MummerX
Another server-side solution to think of is GieWiki ...where MPTW is
available.
...each time you create a new TiddlyWiki with GieWiki there is the
option to use "templates", MPTW is one of the options...
Have look on a demo MPTW in the sandbox folder on the GieWiki-site:
http://giewiki.appspot.com/SandBox/MPTWTA2
Bauwe
Another server-side solution to think of is GieWiki ...where MPTW is
available.
...each time you create a new TiddlyWiki with GieWiki there is the
option to use "templates", MPTW is one of the options...
Have look on a demo MPTW in the sandbox folder on the GieWiki-site:
http://giewiki.appspot.com/SandBox/MPTWTA2
Bauwe
rakugo
Aug 17, 2011, 8:07:04 AM8/17/11
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Hi
I'm also seeing recursion errors in tabs and the upload button doesn't
work in Firefox 5.
I'm not sure about the former, but in terms of the latter, Tiddlyspot
uses the UploadPlugin to upload to the web which uses a deprecated
function called doHttp.
Is BidiX still maintaining this plugin? Looks like it will need an
update which might fix a lot of the problems...
Jon
I'm also seeing recursion errors in tabs and the upload button doesn't
work in Firefox 5.
I'm not sure about the former, but in terms of the latter, Tiddlyspot
uses the UploadPlugin to upload to the web which uses a deprecated
function called doHttp.
Is BidiX still maintaining this plugin? Looks like it will need an
update which might fix a lot of the problems...
Jon
PMario
Aug 17, 2011, 9:56:23 AM8/17/11
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On Aug 17, 2:07 pm, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is BidiX still maintaining this plugin? Looks like it will need an
> update which might fix a lot of the problems...
Probably no. I asked him about 3 weeks ago. Posted my mail and the
> Is BidiX still maintaining this plugin? Looks like it will need an
> update which might fix a lot of the problems...
answere to: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/44
-m
MummerX
Aug 17, 2011, 12:48:03 PM8/17/11
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@PMario - your pojnts, in order ...
Yup, deleting cookies in IE8 fixed the <<tabs>> error and the stack
errors.
On saving to web, it still fails: "Do you want to navigate away from
this page?" and " '0' is null or not an object".
*** Once (and only once) in many tries, it saved successfully! - This
is getting really screwy now.
OK, your other points ...
<<version>> = 2.5.0
<<mptwVersion>> = 2.5.3
This is for my large wiki; the one I am having problems saving to web
(@ work). Does that give any clues?
Actually, I have just now tried upgrading the wiki software, and it
tells me this can only be done for a locally stored file (and this is
web hosted). So, I guess I have the latest version of both the above?
Sorry to be dim, but what is an include mechanism? Will it allow me to
transfer my content from my old large wiki to another? Happy to RTFM,
if you give me an URL.
@Bauwe
I only just heard recently about GieWiki, so I was not aware (until
now) that it offers MPTW. Thanks! :o)
Is there an easy way to transfer my content across, if I create a wiki
there? Or must I retype it all? (>175k I think)
Grateful thanks chaps. I am bowled over by your helpfulness. :o)
Yup, deleting cookies in IE8 fixed the <<tabs>> error and the stack
errors.
On saving to web, it still fails: "Do you want to navigate away from
this page?" and " '0' is null or not an object".
*** Once (and only once) in many tries, it saved successfully! - This
is getting really screwy now.
OK, your other points ...
<<version>> = 2.5.0
<<mptwVersion>> = 2.5.3
This is for my large wiki; the one I am having problems saving to web
(@ work). Does that give any clues?
Actually, I have just now tried upgrading the wiki software, and it
tells me this can only be done for a locally stored file (and this is
web hosted). So, I guess I have the latest version of both the above?
Sorry to be dim, but what is an include mechanism? Will it allow me to
transfer my content from my old large wiki to another? Happy to RTFM,
if you give me an URL.
@Bauwe
I only just heard recently about GieWiki, so I was not aware (until
now) that it offers MPTW. Thanks! :o)
Is there an easy way to transfer my content across, if I create a wiki
there? Or must I retype it all? (>175k I think)
Grateful thanks chaps. I am bowled over by your helpfulness. :o)
MummerX
Aug 17, 2011, 1:00:51 PM8/17/11
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@PMario
Thanks for pursuing this.
I just read https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/44
That would indeed fit all my observations, and explains why I can
still save to web on my home PC (old OS) and not on my work PC (new
OS, and recently upgraded).
I will wait and see if anyone kindly helps out by upgrading the
plugin.
Grateful thanks.
Thanks for pursuing this.
I just read https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/44
That would indeed fit all my observations, and explains why I can
still save to web on my home PC (old OS) and not on my work PC (new
OS, and recently upgraded).
I will wait and see if anyone kindly helps out by upgrading the
plugin.
Grateful thanks.
Bauwe Bijl
Aug 18, 2011, 6:24:17 AM8/18/11
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Hi MummerX
> @Bauwe
> I only just heard recently about GieWiki, so I was not aware (until
> now) that it offers MPTW. Thanks! :o)
Where tiddlyspot let users create accounts and tw's...with GieWiki you
are the owner of the system itself (like owning tiddlyspot)...so it's
easy to create more then one tw...
Each tw you create inside GieWiki can have different flavors (like
mptw)...and different access policy's for users/viewers...(also
private)
Members can be added per tw...as group or account...with different
edit capability's...
All login goes via your google-account (gmail account) the setup
itself is also hosted at google.
read more:
http://giewiki.appspot.com/
source:
http://code.google.com/p/giewiki/
> Is there an easy way to transfer my content across, if I create a wiki
> there? Or must I retype it all? (>175k I think)
You can both upload from local and published TiddlyWiki's to your
GieWiki TiddlyWiki's
(retype>no :)
Bauwe
> @Bauwe
> I only just heard recently about GieWiki, so I was not aware (until
> now) that it offers MPTW. Thanks! :o)
are the owner of the system itself (like owning tiddlyspot)...so it's
easy to create more then one tw...
Each tw you create inside GieWiki can have different flavors (like
mptw)...and different access policy's for users/viewers...(also
private)
Members can be added per tw...as group or account...with different
edit capability's...
All login goes via your google-account (gmail account) the setup
itself is also hosted at google.
read more:
http://giewiki.appspot.com/
source:
http://code.google.com/p/giewiki/
> Is there an easy way to transfer my content across, if I create a wiki
> there? Or must I retype it all? (>175k I think)
GieWiki TiddlyWiki's
(retype>no :)
Bauwe
Poul
Aug 18, 2011, 6:31:36 AM8/18/11
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Hi,
provided that your existing TiddlySpot content is well-formed XHTML
(so I can parse it as XML), and provided your files are less than 1MB
each, you can from within the page setup dialog of giewiki upload the
files or pull them directly from TiddlySpot into a giewiki page. In
the latter case, I've managed to remove the 1MB limit in the version
you find running at http://giewiki.appspot.com, but this hasn't yet
made it into the released download. I've put together a brief tutorial
here: http://giewiki.appspot.com/Tutorials/ImportFromLibraries#
You are welcome to try it out by creating a page below
http://giewiki.appspot.com/SandBox/ (you can make it private if you
prefer) and try importing your content. Beware however that giewiki is
not intended as a TiddyWiki hoster, so don't rely on them to stay
there forever. I could probably be persuaded to let you keep it as a
nn.giewiki.appspot.com subdomain until you've decided if giewiki is
right for you.
/Poul
provided that your existing TiddlySpot content is well-formed XHTML
(so I can parse it as XML), and provided your files are less than 1MB
each, you can from within the page setup dialog of giewiki upload the
files or pull them directly from TiddlySpot into a giewiki page. In
the latter case, I've managed to remove the 1MB limit in the version
you find running at http://giewiki.appspot.com, but this hasn't yet
made it into the released download. I've put together a brief tutorial
here: http://giewiki.appspot.com/Tutorials/ImportFromLibraries#
You are welcome to try it out by creating a page below
http://giewiki.appspot.com/SandBox/ (you can make it private if you
prefer) and try importing your content. Beware however that giewiki is
not intended as a TiddyWiki hoster, so don't rely on them to stay
there forever. I could probably be persuaded to let you keep it as a
nn.giewiki.appspot.com subdomain until you've decided if giewiki is
right for you.
/Poul
MummerX
Aug 22, 2011, 5:07:08 AM8/22/11
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Sorry for the late reply. I would like to thank this community for the
extremely helpful and knowledgeable responses to date.
Thanks also to those contributors who suggested of alternative hosting
methods. I did check them out, and jolly interesting they are too -
just not for my use though. Tiddlyspot really does fit my needs
best.
So, on balance, I have decided to wait for a developer to kindly step
forward to address this issue. If I had more time and some JavaScript
experience, I might have been tempted to look into this myself, and
"give something back". The best I can offer is this: If anyone needs a
guinea pig to test a possible solution, please email me. I would be
very happy to help.
extremely helpful and knowledgeable responses to date.
Thanks also to those contributors who suggested of alternative hosting
methods. I did check them out, and jolly interesting they are too -
just not for my use though. Tiddlyspot really does fit my needs
best.
So, on balance, I have decided to wait for a developer to kindly step
forward to address this issue. If I had more time and some JavaScript
experience, I might have been tempted to look into this myself, and
"give something back". The best I can offer is this: If anyone needs a
guinea pig to test a possible solution, please email me. I would be
very happy to help.
MummerX
Feb 14, 2012, 9:09:10 AM2/14/12
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Sorry to continue such an old thread, but I am confused. The preceding discussion ended when it appeared that more modern
operating systems and/or browsers had closed some sort of loophole that a Tiddlywiki exploited to save itself back to the Tiddlyspot server.
I resigned myself to keeping my old copy of Ubuntu, with Firefox 3.6.x running indefinitely.
That copy of Firefox recently updated itself to v10.0 (AFAIK, I was allowed no choice in this). Far from preventing me from being able to save my Tiddlywiki, it now appears I can still do so. Moreover, checking on a PC at work (Win 7, FF 10) I can update my wiki there too (also with Win 7 + IE 8).
Bottom line - I have regained the ability to update my wiki at home and at work ... totally against expectations (given the preceding discussion).
Now, I thought that the answer would lie in a developer coming forward to implement a different "write back to server" routine in the wiki's javascript. This obviously has not happened because I have never updated my wiki (and certainly not since this discussion took place).
So what happened? Did Firefox & IE kindly re-open the loophole? Or was the Tiddlyspot server updated to allow saves? Or has my wiki's javascript been quietly upgraded?
Basically, who can I thank? :D
-- MummerX
I resigned myself to keeping my old copy of Ubuntu, with Firefox 3.6.x running indefinitely.
That copy of Firefox recently updated itself to v10.0 (AFAIK, I was allowed no choice in this). Far from preventing me from being able to save my Tiddlywiki, it now appears I can still do so. Moreover, checking on a PC at work (Win 7, FF 10) I can update my wiki there too (also with Win 7 + IE 8).
Bottom line - I have regained the ability to update my wiki at home and at work ... totally against expectations (given the preceding discussion).
Now, I thought that the answer would lie in a developer coming forward to implement a different "write back to server" routine in the wiki's javascript. This obviously has not happened because I have never updated my wiki (and certainly not since this discussion took place).
So what happened? Did Firefox & IE kindly re-open the loophole? Or was the Tiddlyspot server updated to allow saves? Or has my wiki's javascript been quietly upgraded?
Basically, who can I thank? :D
-- MummerX
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