ToggleFullScreen in Tiddlyspace

[tejjyid]

I can't get ToggleFullScreen to work in Tiddlyspace - it's fine in Tiddlyspot and/or file-based versions. I have the inlineJavaScript plugin - any ideas?

[PMario]

TS uses a different page layout. So ToggleFullScreen needs some
adjustment to work with TS. Do you use the TS default theme??
-m

[tejjyid]

Hi PMario - I feel like I'm causing you a lot of bother :) Maybe I should switch back to Tiddlyspot...
Yes, I do use the default theme in Tiddlyspace.

To be honest, I need some advice about Space vs Spot. I started off with six different TW's in Spot, all on separate topics. Then I thought I'd like to share some tiddlers across topic, so I moved to Space. But an alternative would be to move all 6 spaces into one spot, and use tagging to separate the topics. None of them is huge.

I also had a plan to introduce some colleagues to Tiddlyspace and create a knowledge network, but I'm not sure that there's enough technical expertise/goodwill in my staffroom to make it work.

[PMario]

On Jul 12, 12:59 pm, tejjyid <andrew.x.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi PMario - I feel like I'm causing you a lot of bother :)

No problem at all.

> ... Maybe I should
> switch back to Tiddlyspot...
IMO no, Stay with TiddlySpace, it will be worth it. I promise ;)

> Yes, I do use the default theme in Tiddlyspace.

Mans did some tweaking allready with TS. But I can't find it at the
moment. I'll have a look ...

> To be honest, I need some advice about Space vs Spot. I started off with
> six different TW's in Spot, all on separate topics. Then I thought I'd like
> to share some tiddlers across topic, so I moved to Space. But an
> alternative would be to move all 6 spaces into one spot, and use tagging to
> separate the topics. None of them is huge.

While using tagging is a good idea anyway. TiddlySpace has a nice
space inclusion function, where you can include one space into an
other. Like the POS Tagger space ... IMO this is one of the big
advantages of TS.

The devs know, that new people have some trouble to starting with TS.
They are running a development iteration at the moment. See:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyspace/browse_thread/thread/b6b4395d9f155c8a?hl=en
for more.

I know, they highly welcome any feedback. Especially from new users.
Experienced users are "blind" to those difficulties, because they
allready know how to work around them. But it shouldn't be needed to
work around something. It should "just work" ... without feedback,
everything will stay as it is. ...

Uploading from file TW to TiddlySpot is restricted by browser
manufacturers at the moment, due to security restrictions. So It isn't
a good option at the moment (my opinion).

> I also had a plan to introduce some colleagues to Tiddlyspace and create a
> knowledge network, but I'm not sure that there's enough technical
> expertise/goodwill in my staffroom to make it work.

What would be needed, in your opinion, to get it started?

have fun!
mario

[tejjyid]

 > What would be needed, in your opinion, to get it started?

A good question. Let me think out loud...in practice I will get up at a professional development day, and say,
Right folks here's a new tool. You can:
a.) maintain a journal of your own knowledge and ideas
b.) share that with other people
c.) share other people's knowledge and ideas
d.) discuss things with colleagues
e.) access/link/store documents/images/pdfs
f.) build and run presentations
g.) adapt and configure

Everyone will be briefly excited, and then I'll try to set up a couple of specific projects to encourage people to use it.

So, OK, a.) I can do now & I've tested a couple of the WYSIWYG options to enhance the appearance of friendliness. Personally I prefer markup, but I grew up with IBM's SCRIPT/VS.

b.) c.) d.) I have only the barest glimmerings of how to do.
e.) is probably going to create problems with our so-called IT department
f.) I haven't tried Tiddly-Slidy in TSpace yet, but I don't feel optimistic, either that it will work, or that any attempts to enhance it by me will not run into moderately obscure difficulties.
g.) I can demo simple javascript/CSS I think.

Then I look at WHY I am trying to do this...primarily to get better sharing of ideas and resources around the group, and secondarily to try to build up, over time, corporate knowledge of good practice. So it turns out that the things I don't know are the most important.

[tejjyid]

Another thing, and the reason I opened this thread originally, is that I think the ability to do presentations from //within// a space is very useful. I don't want to have to separate presentayion and knowledge.