Fish ID

[Carl Z.]

OK, it's a bit harder to id a fish if you don't catch it.

These pictures were taken by someone on a small stream that feeds into
Seneca Lake (Black Hills Regional Park). He was concerned that they
were an exotic.

http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx273/carl_z_pics/DSC_0602_zps633aa069.jpg

http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx273/carl_z_pics/DSC_0597_zpsc87f5354.jpg

Does anyone have any guesses. The rounded tail fin and second dorsal
fin (adipose, soft dorsal fin) look distinctive.

Carl

[TurbineBlade]

Rounded body and dorsal fin suggests killifish (mummichog?) but I'm not really sure.  

[r...@robsnowhite.com]

Looks like a fish tank plecostomid.

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[TurbineBlade]

I'll also throw a vote for dwarf pike cichlid ;). 

 

Fat heavy body with wide-set eyes.  Appears to have a dorsal fin placed far back (posterior) on the body. 

 

I have a really great guide to DC fish that was unpublished, but excellent for small stream fish ID.  We used it when I worked for DDOE and did the back-pack shocking on DC streams.  By far the most common species you'd shock up on most streams were banded killifish and mummichogs.  American eels on a lot of otherwise fishless streams too. 

 

I'll scan a copy and post it on this forum when I get back from MO in a couple of weeks.  It's from the 80's or 90's I think, but it beats the hell out of the popular Burr field guide for the purpose.  Good luck trying to ID the (not-carp) cyprinids with that sucker....no offense to Burr ;).  Most of the characters are really specific to the subpopulations you find around DC....which helps a lot. 

 

Gene

 

On Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:51:12 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:

Looks like a fish tank plecostomid.

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On Mar 21, 2013, at 9:43 PM, "Carl Z." <carl....@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, it's a bit harder to id a fish if you don't catch it.
>
> These pictures were taken by someone on a small stream that feeds into
> Seneca Lake (Black Hills Regional Park).  He was concerned that they
> were an exotic.
>
> http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx273/carl_z_pics/DSC_0602_zps633aa069.jpg
>
> http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx273/carl_z_pics/DSC_0597_zpsc87f5354.jpg
>
> Does anyone have any guesses.  The rounded tail fin and second dorsal
> fin (adipose, soft dorsal fin) look distinctive.
>
> Carl
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[r...@robsnowhite.com]

Speaking on books, does anyone have "the fresh water fishes of Virginia?'

I want one but its rather pricey. 

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[TurbineBlade]

BTW Carl - if you find out what it is I'd be interested to know now that I'm thinking about it. 

 

Totally kidding about the cichlid thing --

 

Gene

On Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:43:13 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

[TurbineBlade]

I wish I had that one -- I have the Missouri version which overlaps somewhat, but not completely.  For example, I had yoke darters and rainbows within a mile of my place there ;).  Tessies here....which are cool too.  

ID-ing the smaller minnows can be a pain in the ass.  Unless you like counting lateral line scales on a 1.5" specimen and/or dorsal fin rays that you can barely see.  I hate it about as much as tying small dry flies.  

Feels like a one-legged cat trying to bury turds....and I'd know!  

Gene

[Lucas Rudd]

Chiclid maybe. I catch them under chain bridge in 4 different species. also, I have a freshwater fishes of n. America. If you would like to borrow it at the next beer tye rob. The chiclids like miggot hoppers and crawdads. 

On Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:43:13 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

[pmk00001]

 I wish but too expensive for me right how.  Hopefully someone will reprint it some day.  This book is insane.

On a brighter note it looks like "Fishes of the Chesapeake Bay" has been redone and reprinted http://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-Fishes-Chesapeake-Bay/dp/142140768X/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_1/192-9412619-8251965.  I should have my copy later this week.