On 25.02.16 14:27, Ben Bucksch wrote:R Kent James wrote on 24.02.2016 19:32:3) An alpha version of a PEP/Enigmail addon is availablePlease note that the later we get involved, the less influence we can have on the result. If your concern is that PEP drops something on us that we can't accept, then we better get involved earlier rather than later. As you know, cost of change increases 10-fold each step of the way.PEP is a product by an independent organization - the Thunderbird community by will only have limited influence on the product.
Therefore, the influence you are talking about will mostly target Enigmail, not PEP. If Enigmail should become a part of Thunderbird, then I expect this is something we will certainly need to clarify - I'm open for such discussions.
-- Joshua Cranmer Thunderbird and DXR developer Source code archæologist
Am 24.02.16 um 19:32 schrieb R Kent James:3) An alpha version of a PEP/Enigmail addon is availableI am really looking forward to try this out. :-) I'm regularly visiting the pEp homepage to see if there are any news about this.
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The reason that we keep linking PEP and Enigmail is that, as we understand it, PEP is proposing an encryption solution that is based on Enigmail, with additional components supplied by PEP. So Enigmail is a necessary but not sufficient part of incorporating PEP technology into Thunderbird.
Concerning PEP, I think that we can say there have been some severe cultural clashes to working together. Yet Berna is trying hard to figure us out, and I am enthusiastic about the possibility of PEP making PGP encryption much more straightforward than it is now, and more widely adopted. So there is hope, but it will take some time to, as you say, "approach each other and work together, and in the process build mutual trust". That's mostly what the recent statement is about. Nobody from Thunderbird want to be in a situation where we are "simply saying yay/nay" (or even worse, agreeing a priori to say "yay" because we are accepting funding from PEP). What would help is someone familiar with TB to work with PEP, or someone from PEP to work with Thunderbird.
because I couldn't find this "≡" on my keyboard. ;-)
Pls hold down Alt, pressing the + on the numeric keypad, followed by 2261
Pls hold Ctrl+⇧ Shift and type U followed by 2261
Pls hold down the ⌥ Option, and then type 2261 (on Unicode Hex Input keyboard)
In math mode just state $\equiv$
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On 2016-02-25 20:29, Matt Harris wrote:
On 26/02/2016 8:18 AM, Nomis101 🐝 wrote:
I went to their foundation home page and clicked the link on the top of the page.... that ended my journey.Am 24.02.16 um 19:32 schrieb R Kent James:3) An alpha version of a PEP/Enigmail addon is availableI am really looking forward to try this out. :-) I'm regularly visiting the pEp homepage to see if there are any news about this.
It is just this sort of error in the "secure by default environment" that leaves me concerned.
It’s a sad day when privacy-oriented, bug-savvy Thunderbird contributors can’t recognize a CAcert-signed website.
-- Nathan Tuggy [:tuggyne] nat...@tuggycomputer.com
It’s a sad day when privacy-oriented, bug-savvy Thunderbird contributors can’t recognize a CAcert-signed website.
If you don't have the CAcert root installed in your browser, then how do
you _know_ it's a CAcert-signed website? It says it is in the cert, but
anyone (CAcert or not) can create a cert that says that. The only way to
tell is if it chains up to the CAcert root.
This is the whole point of trust anchors. If you are saying that it's
safe to "recognise" a CAcert-signed website by looking for "CAcert" in
the certificate with an unknown issuer, than you've missed the point of PKI.
Gerv