Harter Remembrance Day

[Paul J Gans]

I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
Harter Remembrance Day. That's his birthday and it seems
appropriate.

It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
business here, but I hope that on that date there
will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
that too) as a sort of memorial.

--
--- Paul J. Gans

[Boikat]

Seconded!

Boikat

[Mitchell Coffey]

I just hope I'll have something to contribute.

Mitchell

[Boikat]

On Mar 3, 2:59 pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Beer. We're gonna need beer. Just sayin'

Boikat

[Roger Shrubber]

Why not keep the date but make it a general remembrance
day. Include Tero Sands and Nell Wright. Maybe somebody
can compose a compelling refutation of Velikovsky featuring
a mastiff and ending in a horrible pun.

[Paul J Gans]

You will. There are penalties for failing to cooperate.

[Paul J Gans]

Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>

>wrote:
>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>>
>> > I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as

>> > Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems

>> > appropriate.
>>
>> > It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
>> > business here, but I hope that on that date there
>> > will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
>> > Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
>> > that too) as a sort of memorial.
>>
>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.

>Beer. We're gonna need beer. Just sayin'

Virtual beer by the case.

[Paul J Gans]

Roger Shrubber <rog.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 4, 5:12?am, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as

>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems

>> appropriate.
>>
>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
>> that too) as a sort of memorial.

>Why not keep the date but make it a general remembrance
>day. Include Tero Sands and Nell Wright. Maybe somebody
>can compose a compelling refutation of Velikovsky featuring
>a mastiff and ending in a horrible pun.

Hey, I don't make the rules. General remembrance might
be a good thing.

You remember Tero? You have to be a supergeezer to
remember him. And several of us met Chainsaw Nell
at a Washington Howlerfest a fair number of years
back. But a number here should remember her.

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh0or9$9nr$1...@reader1.panix.com...

Mitchell could be a glutton for pun-ishment.

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh0p76$9nr$3...@reader1.panix.com...

He may have been one of the posters formerly known as the Knights who say Ni!

[Walter Bushell]

In article <kh0os1$9nr$2...@reader1.panix.com>,

I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
various formats.

--
This space unintentionally left blank.

[Paul J Gans]

He is that.

[Paul J Gans]

Tero? No. As I recall (and I hope somebody corrects me if I
am wrong) Tero was a low volume but steady poster here. Then
he vanished. We learned a bit later, from his uncle, that he'd
passed away.

Turns out he had no use of his arms or hands and was confined
to bed for years. His posts were laboriously composed, again
if I recall correctly) by using a stylus held in his mouth.

[Paul J Gans]

It's virtual. Order what you will. I'm having wine as well.

[Richard Norman]

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:09:32 -0500, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>
wrote:

Whatever. It is all just fungal excreta anyway.

[chris thompson]

On Mar 3, 9:14 pm, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> Glenn <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in messagenews:kh0or9$9nr$1...@reader1.panix.com...

> >> Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> >> >> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
> >> >> Harter Remembrance Day.  That's his birthday and it seems
> >> >> appropriate.
>
> >> >> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> >> >> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> >> >> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> >> >> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> >> >> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>
> >> >I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
>
> >> You will.  There are penalties for failing to cooperate.
>
> >Mitchell could be a glutton for pun-ishment.
>
> He is that.
>
> --
>    --- Paul J. Gans

At least I won't be forced to submit anything in cursive. I would be
punished for bad punmanship.

Chris

[chris thompson]

On Mar 3, 9:17 pm, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> Glenn <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in messagenews:kh0p76$9nr$3...@reader1.panix.com...

There's a small page at the U of E website devoted to Tero. I wish I
had known him a little bit.

Chris

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh1077$n7g$2...@reader1.panix.com...

> Glenn <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> >"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh0p76$9nr$3...@reader1.panix.com...
> >> Roger Shrubber <rog.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Mar 4, 5:12?am, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> >> >> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
> >> >> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
> >> >> appropriate.
> >> >>
> >> >> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> >> >> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> >> >> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> >> >> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> >> >> that too) as a sort of memorial.
> >>
> >> >Why not keep the date but make it a general remembrance
> >> >day. Include Tero Sands and Nell Wright. Maybe somebody
> >> >can compose a compelling refutation of Velikovsky featuring
> >> >a mastiff and ending in a horrible pun.
> >>
> >> Hey, I don't make the rules. General remembrance might
> >> be a good thing.
> >>
> >> You remember Tero? You have to be a supergeezer to
> >> remember him. And several of us met Chainsaw Nell
> >> at a Washington Howlerfest a fair number of years
> >> back. But a number here should remember her.
> >>
> >He may have been one of the posters formerly known as the Knights who say Ni!
>
> Tero?

No, the Shrubber.

[Glenn]

"chris thompson" <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d28923c5-dd8f-4afc...@y4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

Nell Wright also passed away, in 2001, shortly after I entered the fray.
Tero Sand died in 1996. That would make Gans about 103.

[Michael Siemon]

In article <kh17a4$c14$1...@dont-email.me>,

base 8

[Mitchell Coffey]

I do want a separate one for Harter. We can have separate days for all
three, if we want. In fact, it's a good idea.

Mitchell Coffey

[Mitchell Coffey]

I'm scared, Paul, when have I ever been able to come up with stories,
jokes, puns and put-downs?

Mitchell

[Mitchell Coffey]

She were grand!

Mitchell Coffey

[Mitchell Coffey]

I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.

Mitchell

[Mitchell Coffey]

I'll submit as many puns in curses as I please.

Mitchell

[Mitchell Coffey]

More. He tries to keep up with the number of chemical elements.

Mitchell

[Roger Shrubber]

On Mar 4, 5:12 am, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as

> Harter Remembrance Day.  That's his birthday and it seems

> appropriate.
>
> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> that too) as a sort of memorial.

An early warning.

Long ago on the planet Throom, there lived
a race of beings strangely like those on
Earth. Even the arcane customs of feudal
societies were similar but with notable
difference, for instance, in one Queendom
women were knighted instead of men.

And while I say "women" and "men" it is
with a certain poetic license. There were
similarities of course but without getting
into the more anatomical details, it is
worth noting that the women did a highly
erotic dance that was the dance of six
veils (not seven).

It was an odd dance that include something
like belly dancing but the gyrations were
more like an epileptic seizure. The best
dance had the greatest fit. Being a
matriarchal society, skills at this dance
were regarded as the highest achievements,
right up there with being an evolutionary
biologist. During the knighting ceremonies,
where the queen picked the best dancer,
the queen could be heard to say

Arise Sir VI Veil of the Fittest

[Glenn]

"Mitchell Coffey" <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:kh1i7a$hlc$1...@dont-email.me...

I prefer a 1968 vintage Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill, but its hard to get.

[Roger Shrubber]

On Mar 4, 5:25 pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>
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>
>
> > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:

> >> In article <kh0os1$9n...@reader1.panix.com>,

Domaine Weinbach Riesling Alsace Grand Cru 1991

Richard liked white wine.

[Ron O]

On Mar 4, 3:11 am, "Glenn" <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Mitchell Coffey" <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:kh1i7a$hlc$1...@dont-email.me...

> > On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:

> > >> In article <kh0os1$9n...@reader1.panix.com>,

> > >> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >>>> On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>
> > >>>>>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
> > >>>>>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
> > >>>>>> appropriate.
>
> > >>>>>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> > >>>>>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> > >>>>>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> > >>>>>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> > >>>>>> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>
> > >>>>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
>
> > >>>> Beer.  We're gonna need beer.  Just sayin'
>
> > >>> Virtual beer by the case.
>
> > >> I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
> > >> various formats.
>
> > > It's virtual.  Order what you will.  I'm having wine as well.
>
> > I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
> > Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.
>
> I prefer a 1968 vintage Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill, but its hard to get.

You can't go by the copyright on the label to tell the vintage. My
guess is that anything from Boone's Farm didn't age very well
(possibly due to the screw cap), though I did think that Strawberry
Hill was much better than anyones sauvignon at that time. My guess is
that Thunderbird would age well.

Ron Okimoto

[Roger Shrubber]

http://www.screwcapinitiative.com/upload/20_4%20AWRI%20Report.pdf

Screw caps have been empirically determined to provide
the optimal storage conditions for wine. Cork taint
is a real and significant problem with wine wine
storage. Please don't presume to promote your base
prejudices about proper wine storage.

[David Iain Greig]

Mitchell Coffey <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/3/2013 11:19 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>
>>>> Turns out he had no use of his arms or hands and was confined
>>>> to bed for years. His posts were laboriously composed, again
>>>> if I recall correctly) by using a stylus held in his mouth.
>>>

>>> There's a small page at the U of E website devoted to Tero. I wish I
>>> had known him a little bit.
>>>
>> Nell Wright also passed away, in 2001, shortly after I entered the fray.
>> Tero Sand died in 1996. That would make Gans about 103.
>
> More. He tries to keep up with the number of chemical elements.

Haha, Gans has inherited Harter's mantle.

--D.

[J. J. Lodder]

They'll be in the $ 1000 a bottle range, by now,

Jan

[J. J. Lodder]

Wines can age well, under the right kind of screw cap.
It's just that the French are too conservative to believe it,

Jan

[James Beck]

My head oozes with joy.

[Paul J Gans]

That's life. It lives on the excesses of processes.

[Paul J Gans]

chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 3, 9:14?pm, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>> Glenn <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in messagenews:kh0or9$9nr$1...@reader1.panix.com...
>> >> Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>> >> >> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as

>> >> >> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems

>> >> >> appropriate.
>>
>> >> >> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
>> >> >> business here, but I hope that on that date there
>> >> >> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
>> >> >> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
>> >> >> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>>
>> >> >I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
>>

>> >> You will. ?There are penalties for failing to cooperate.

>>
>> >Mitchell could be a glutton for pun-ishment.
>>
>> He is that.
>>
>> --

>> ? ?--- Paul J. Gans

>At least I won't be forced to submit anything in cursive. I would be
>punished for bad punmanship.

If you are, take it philosopically.

[Paul J Gans]

Only on Thursdays. Most of the time I'm nearer 70 than 60.

[Paul J Gans]

Time you learned.

[Paul J Gans]

If it is virtual, one won't be enough.

[Paul J Gans]

Roger Shrubber <rog.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 4, 5:12?am, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as

>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems

I propose that today be get Shrubber day.

[Paul J Gans]

Not at all. I have some on my basement floor. Give me a minute
to get a mop and I'll have some for you.

[Paul J Gans]

Not I sir. He was my better in many many ways.

[Paul J Gans]

Roger Shrubber <rog.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 4, 10:11?pm, Ron O <rokim...@cox.net> wrote:

>> On Mar 4, 3:11?am, "Glenn" <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Mitchell Coffey" <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:kh1i7a$hlc$1...@dont-email.me...
>> > > On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>> > > > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>> > > >> In article <kh0os1$9n...@reader1.panix.com>,
>> > > >> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > > >>>> On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
>> > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>>
>> > > >>>>>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
>> > > >>>>>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
>> > > >>>>>> appropriate.
>>
>> > > >>>>>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
>> > > >>>>>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
>> > > >>>>>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
>> > > >>>>>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
>> > > >>>>>> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>>
>> > > >>>>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
>>

>> > > >>>> Beer. ?We're gonna need beer. ?Just sayin'

>>
>> > > >>> Virtual beer by the case.
>>
>> > > >> I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
>> > > >> various formats.
>>

>> > > > It's virtual. ?Order what you will. ?I'm having wine as well.

>>
>> > > I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
>> > > Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.
>>
>> > I prefer a 1968 vintage Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill, but its hard to get.
>>

>> You can't go by the copyright on the label to tell the vintage. ?My

>> guess is that anything from Boone's Farm didn't age very well
>> (possibly due to the screw cap), though I did think that Strawberry

>> Hill was much better than anyones sauvignon at that time. ?My guess is

>> that Thunderbird would age well.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto

>http://www.screwcapinitiative.com/upload/20_4%20AWRI%20Report.pdf

>Screw caps have been empirically determined to provide
>the optimal storage conditions for wine. Cork taint
>is a real and significant problem with wine wine
>storage. Please don't presume to promote your base
>prejudices about proper wine storage.

The dickens with wine storage. Wine drinkage is what
appeals to me.

[chris thompson]

On Mar 4, 11:54�am, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> Glenn <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >"chris thompson" <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:d28923c5-dd8f-4afc...@y4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

You're just celebrating various anniversaries of your 30th birthday.

Chris

[chris thompson]

On Mar 4, 12:09 pm, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:

You can store wine (and beer, and Bushmill's for that matter) in your
body for at least a little while. Trust me on that.

Chris

[chris thompson]

On Mar 4, 1:44 am, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You learned the trick from Harter, some short time after the Jurassic.

Chris

[s...@broadinstitute.org]

Oof. I only stop by here every year or so now, and on this visit I see that Richard Harter has died and that John Wilkins/ens (I always figured the spelling was optional) has departed for, well, somewhere. I feel old. (Yes, I'm old enough to remember Tero Sand.)

Steve Schaffner

[RAM]

On Mar 4, 12:34 pm, s...@broadinstitute.org wrote:
> Oof. I only stop by here every year or so now, and on this visit I see that Richard Harter has died and that John Wilkins/ens (I always figured the spelling was optional) has departed for, well, somewhere. I feel old. (Yes, I'm old enough to remember Tero Sand.)
>
> Steve Schaffner

Tero was also a genuine delight to read and also a great loss.
Thanks for reminding us of him.

Rich

[Mitchell Coffey]

An example in public policy of the rule of unintended consequences. When
I was in in High School, you had to be 21 to buy that sweet ambrosia. A
reasonable law, and rigidly enforced. And thusly the State of California
drove its youth to the arms of marijuana.

Though not me of course.

Mitchell

[Bob Berger]

In article <mlsiemon-9F18C8...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Michael Siemon says...
>
>In article <kh17a4$c14$1...@dont-email.me>,

> "Glenn" <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "chris thompson" <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:d28923c5-dd8f-4afc...@y4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Mar 3, 9:17 pm, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>> > > Glenn <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> > > >"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in
>> > > >messagenews:kh0p76$9nr$3...@reader1.panix.com...
>> > > >> Roger Shrubber <rog.shrub...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > > >> >On Mar 4, 5:12?am, Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
>> > > >> >> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
>> > > >> >> appropriate.
>> > >
>> > > >> >> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
>> > > >> >> business here, but I hope that on that date there
>> > > >> >> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
>> > > >> >> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
>> > > >> >> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>> > >

>> > > >> >Why not keep the date but make it a general remembrance
>> > > >> >day. Include Tero Sands and Nell Wright. Maybe somebody
>> > > >> >can compose a compelling refutation of Velikovsky featuring
>> > > >> >a mastiff and ending in a horrible pun.
>> > >
>> > > >> Hey, I don't make the rules. General remembrance might
>> > > >> be a good thing.
>> > >
>> > > >> You remember Tero? You have to be a supergeezer to
>> > > >> remember him. And several of us met Chainsaw Nell
>> > > >> at a Washington Howlerfest a fair number of years
>> > > >> back. But a number here should remember her.
>> > >
>> > > >He may have been one of the posters formerly known as the Knights who
>> > > >say Ni!
>> > >
>> > > Tero? No. As I recall (and I hope somebody corrects me if I
>> > > am wrong) Tero was a low volume but steady poster here. Then
>> > > he vanished. We learned a bit later, from his uncle, that he'd
>> > > passed away.
>> > >
>> > > Turns out he had no use of his arms or hands and was confined
>> > > to bed for years. His posts were laboriously composed, again
>> > > if I recall correctly) by using a stylus held in his mouth.
>> > >

>> > > --
>> > > --- Paul J. Gans
>> >

>> > There's a small page at the U of E website devoted to Tero. I wish I
>> > had known him a little bit.
>> >
>> Nell Wright also passed away, in 2001, shortly after I entered the fray.
>> Tero Sand died in 1996. That would make Gans about 103.
>

>base 8

base 9 ?

[Bob Berger]

In article <cabal-kh2cnn$1m3p$1...@darwin.ediacara.org>, David Iain Greig says...

He inherited the shelf above Harter's fireplace?

[Michael Siemon]

In article <kh2qs...@drn.newsguy.com>,

Yeah; that's closer; I'm the one at 103 base 8.

[Glenn]

"Michael Siemon" <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote in message news:mlsiemon-9298B1...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...

I haven't been on base for 40 years.

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh2kc5$f1a$9...@reader1.panix.com...

Just make sure its a clean glass.

[Bob Berger]

In article <kh2s2m$m7q$1...@dont-email.me>, Glenn says...

But who's on first?

(You had to know that was coming)

[Glenn]

"Mitchell Coffey" <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:kh2qnv$do9$1...@dont-email.me...

I once knew someone who did.

[Glenn]

"chris thompson" <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3cbf5a22-5354-4097...@9g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...

It all leaks out eventually, though.

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh2kh1$f1a$1...@reader1.panix.com...

Here! Here! I was once a member of a wine of the day club myself.
Unless I forgot to terminate my membership, in which case I owe
them about $82,327.

[Glenn]

"Bob Berger" <Bob_m...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:kh2um...@drn.newsguy.com...

Who, me?

[Walter Bushell]

In article <kh2qnv$do9$1...@dont-email.me>,

If the state of CA did drive its youth into your arms, you'd be a very
busy man.

--
This space unintentionally left blank.

[Walter Bushell]

In article <kh2s2m$m7q$1...@dont-email.me>,

I'd say it's about time you got laid then.

[Paul J Gans]

chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Only on Thursdays. ?Most of the time I'm nearer 70 than 60.
>>
>> --
>> ? ?--- Paul J. Gans

>You're just celebrating various anniversaries of your 30th birthday.

Now now. I'm not THAT old...

[Paul J Gans]

chris thompson <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> The dickens with wine storage. ?Wine drinkage is what
>> appeals to me.
>>
>> --
>> ? ?--- Paul J. Gans

>You can store wine (and beer, and Bushmill's for that matter) in your
>body for at least a little while. Trust me on that.

It is the sensation of taste as the wine enters the mouth,
swills around, and then is swallowed. I'm told that smell
enters into it too, but most of my sense of smell has
atrophied.

[Paul J Gans]

s...@broadinstitute.org wrote:
>Oof. I only stop by here every year or so now, and on this visit I see that Richard Harter has died and that John Wilkins/ens (I always figured the spelling was optional) has departed for, well, somewhere. I feel old. (Yes, I'm old enough to remember Tero Sand.)

>Steve Schaffner

Hi Steve! Long time no read!

It is the same old talk.origins with some of the same players,
same threads, and same arguments as always.

Harter passed away almost a year ago now (April 20). Here's
a link to an obit:

http://www.familyfuneralhome.net/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1461087&fh_id=10936

He's just recently married too, to add to the sadness.

[Paul J Gans]

Geez. In my day in Ohio, that drove us into the arms of 3.2% beer,
legal for 16 year olds. Do you know how much of that stuff you
had to drink to get even a mild buzz?

[Glenn]

"Ron O" <roki...@cox.net> wrote in message news:54fad099-4078-4b10...@v8g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 4, 3:11 am, "Glenn" <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > "Mitchell Coffey" <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:kh1i7a$hlc$1...@dont-email.me...

> > > On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > > > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:

> > > >> In article <kh0os1$9n...@reader1.panix.com>,

> > > >> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >>> Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> >
> > > >>>>>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
> > > >>>>>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
> > > >>>>>> appropriate.
> >
> > > >>>>>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> > > >>>>>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> > > >>>>>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> > > >>>>>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> > > >>>>>> that too) as a sort of memorial.
> >
> > > >>>>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
> >
> > > >>>> Beer. We're gonna need beer. Just sayin'
> >
> > > >>> Virtual beer by the case.
> >
> > > >> I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
> > > >> various formats.
> >
> > > > It's virtual. Order what you will. I'm having wine as well.
> >
> > > I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
> > > Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.
> >
> > I prefer a 1968 vintage Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill, but its hard to get.
>

> You can't go by the copyright on the label to tell the vintage. My

> guess is that anything from Boone's Farm didn't age very well
> (possibly due to the screw cap), though I did think that Strawberry

> Hill was much better than anyones sauvignon at that time. My guess is

> that Thunderbird would age well.
>

My guess is that you aren't aging very well. But I can't tell by the copyright
on the label.

[Paul J Gans]

More like base 7.5139...

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh32i3$mmb$2...@reader1.panix.com...

Perhaps more accurately, desynthesized. At least that is one of the
milder comments a previous girlfriend remarked of my taste
in expensive wines. But then he comments were probably justified;
I refused to be educated in the wine arts, despite having invested
in a couple cases as a result of several intensive wine tasting adventures.

[Paul J Gans]

Amazing math error in my last post. The proper base for my
age is almost exactly 8.72...

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh32r9$mmb$4...@reader1.panix.com...

Its still all a blur, but I do remember how often I had to pee before getting there.

[Paul J Gans]

Of course. What do you think we are at the Panda's Thumb? Slobs?

[Glenn]

"Paul J Gans" <gan...@panix.com> wrote in message news:kh33r7$mmb$7...@reader1.panix.com...

A sticky subject, I suspect.

[Bob Berger]

In article <kh33i1$mmb$6...@reader1.panix.com>, Paul J Gans says...

DAMN! I was about to accuse you of fibbing (or would that be Fibonacciing).

[Ron O]

On Mar 4, 6:58�am, Roger Shrubber <rog.shrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 10:11�pm, Ron O <rokim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 3:11�am, "Glenn" <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > "Mitchell Coffey" <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:kh1i7a$hlc$1...@dont-email.me...

> > > > On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > > > > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:

> > > > >> In article <kh0os1$9n...@reader1.panix.com>,

> > > > >> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>

> > > > >>> Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>> On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > >>>>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>
> > > > >>>>>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
> > > > >>>>>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
> > > > >>>>>> appropriate.
>
> > > > >>>>>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> > > > >>>>>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> > > > >>>>>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> > > > >>>>>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> > > > >>>>>> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>

> > > > >>>>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
>
> > > > >>>> Beer. �We're gonna need beer. �Just sayin'
>
> > > > >>> Virtual beer by the case.
>
> > > > >> I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
> > > > >> various formats.
>
> > > > > It's virtual. �Order what you will. �I'm having wine as well.
>
> > > > I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
> > > > Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.
>
> > > I prefer a 1968 vintage Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill, but its hard to get.
>

> > You can't go by the copyright on the label to tell the vintage. �My

> > guess is that anything from Boone's Farm didn't age very well
> > (possibly due to the screw cap), though I did think that Strawberry

> > Hill was much better than anyones sauvignon at that time. �My guess is

> > that Thunderbird would age well.
>
> > Ron Okimoto
>
> http://www.screwcapinitiative.com/upload/20_4%20AWRI%20Report.pdf
>
> Screw caps have been empirically determined to provide
> the optimal storage conditions for wine. Cork taint
> is a real and significant problem with wine wine
> storage. Please don't presume to promote your base
> prejudices about proper wine storage.

Back in those days (60's and early 70's) the screw caps had real cork
liners instead of synthetic, so cork taint was still an issue. It
just wasn't much of an issue when you considered what was in the
bottle.

Ron Okimoto

[Ron O]

On Mar 4, 2:09�pm, "Glenn" <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "chris thompson" <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:3cbf5a22-5354-4097...@9g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...

And if you try to store too much it tends to leak from both ends.

Ron Okimoto

[Walter Bushell]

In article
<54fad099-4078-4b10...@v8g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Ron O <roki...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Mar 4, 3:11 am, "Glenn" <gl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > "Mitchell Coffey" <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:kh1i7a$hlc$1...@dont-email.me...
> > > On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > > > Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
> > > >> In article <kh0os1$9n...@reader1.panix.com>,
> > > >> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >>> Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> >
> > > >>>>>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
> > > >>>>>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
> > > >>>>>> appropriate.
> >
> > > >>>>>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> > > >>>>>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> > > >>>>>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> > > >>>>>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> > > >>>>>> that too) as a sort of memorial.
> >
> > > >>>>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
> >

> > > >>>> Beer.  We're gonna need beer.  Just sayin'

> >
> > > >>> Virtual beer by the case.
> >
> > > >> I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
> > > >> various formats.
> >

> > > > It's virtual.  Order what you will.  I'm having wine as well.

> >
> > > I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
> > > Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.
> >
> > I prefer a 1968 vintage Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill, but its hard to get.
>

> You can't go by the copyright on the label to tell the vintage. My

> guess is that anything from Boone's Farm didn't age very well
> (possibly due to the screw cap), though I did think that Strawberry

> Hill was much better than anyones sauvignon at that time. My guess is

> that Thunderbird would age well.
>
> Ron Okimoto

Thunderbird will age you, should you want to get to old age faster.

[Richard Norman]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:34:49 -0800 (PST), Ron O <roki...@cox.net>
wrote:

I have always preferred resin-lined amphorae, but then I am sort of an
old-timer.

[*Hemidactylus*]

Or all three.

[*Hemidactylus*]

On 03/04/2013 04:11 AM, Glenn wrote:
>
> "Mitchell Coffey" <mitchell...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:kh1i7a$hlc$1...@dont-email.me...

>> On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>>> Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:

>>>> In article <kh0os1$9nr$2...@reader1.panix.com>,

>>>> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as
>>>>>>>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems
>>>>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
>>>>>>>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
>>>>>>>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
>>>>>>>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
>>>>>>>> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
>>>>>

>>>>>> Beer. We're gonna need beer. Just sayin'

>>>>>
>>>>> Virtual beer by the case.
>>>
>>>> I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
>>>> various formats.
>>>

>>> It's virtual. Order what you will. I'm having wine as well.

>>
>> I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
>> Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.
>>
> I prefer a 1968 vintage Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill, but its hard to get.

What, no Cisco or Mad Dog for you?

[*Hemidactylus*]

On 03/04/2013 12:07 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:

> Not at all. I have some on my basement floor. Give me a minute
> to get a mop and I'll have some for you.

Bunch of winos. Give me a good hopsy or heavy, dark beer any day.

[*Hemidactylus*]

On 03/03/2013 02:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as

> Harter Remembrance Day. That's his birthday and it seems

> appropriate.
>
> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
> business here, but I hope that on that date there
> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
> that too) as a sort of memorial.

Sounds cool to me.

[*Hemidactylus*]

On 03/04/2013 02:25 AM, Mitchell Coffey wrote:
> On 3/3/2013 9:21 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>> Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:
>>> In article <kh0os1$9nr$2...@reader1.panix.com>,
>>> Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Boikat <boi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2:59?pm, Mitchell Coffey <mitchelldotcof...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> On 3/3/2013 2:12 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish to formally suggest that we dedicate June 29 as

>>>>>>> Harter Remembrance Day. ?That's his birthday and it seems

>>>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It need in no way interfere with the normal flow of
>>>>>>> business here, but I hope that on that date there
>>>>>>> will be a thread with this title where we can contribute
>>>>>>> Harter stories, jokes, puns, put-downs (he was good at
>>>>>>> that too) as a sort of memorial.
>>>>>>

>>>>>> I just hope I'll have something to contribute.
>>>>
>>>>> Beer. We're gonna need beer. Just sayin'
>>>>
>>>> Virtual beer by the case.
>>
>>> I prefer alcohol from fruit, like cider, wine or brandy in it's
>>> various formats.
>>
>> It's virtual. Order what you will. I'm having wine as well.
>
> I'll be drinking a 1963 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand
> Cru. Will you want a bottle? I'll have several cases.

How well does that mix with Sierra Mist? I prefer wine cut with soda.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:R_edndLh6bzgqKjM...@giganews.com...

You're no daisy if you haven't ever had it coming out of your nose.

[*Hemidactylus*]

On 03/04/2013 12:09 PM, Paul J Gans wrote:

I can drink it, but I'm no connoisseur. And wine can kinda sour my
stomach. I'm more into oddball beers like a local Florida brew called
Swamp Ape (no joke)- 10% abv.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/161/61613

Dogfish is pretty good too, but hops in IPAs start annoying me after a
while, which is why Guinness Extra Stout, Murphy's Stout or Negra Modelo
are more my speed.

[*Hemidactylus*]

Ok five then.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:R_ednc3h6bycq6jM...@giganews.com...

No thanks, I'm heterosexual.

[James Beck]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:14:17 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans

Get thee to thy weights and measures... That's 3.2% by weight.
Guinness is only 3.3%. Nasty Bud is 3.7%, Coors Banquet 3.6%. Most
European ales come in around 3.4% alcohol by weight; however, most of
them mark by volume. Three-two was a state sponsored gimic to both
keep the market open to teens, and to force us to swill the local
hell-brews instead of the tastier imports. Utah still has a 3.2% law.
Presumably, they hope to fool the locals into thinking they drink less
than their heathen neighbors. Regulators never have bothered to
enforce the limit anyway. US brewers will mark by volume too, if they
can get away with it. They like marketing with the higher number.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:R_ednczh6bzWq6jM...@giganews.com...

Just make sure you are the one that opens the stuff.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:R_ednc7h6bzcqqjM...@giganews.com...

Damn hippie.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ErKdncmqIIBhpqjM...@giganews.com...

How many ends do you have, anyway?

[*Hemidactylus*]

OK Cartman I learned something today about hops:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabaceae

[*Hemidactylus*]

Orifices are endings, no? I'd say seven, but I've never heard anyone
having alcohol they ingested come literally out their ears, though
isopropyl on a qtip can clean an ear hole.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:vYqdnSMcGepX3ajM...@giganews.com...

Don't call me Cartman, you hop hippie.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:aJednYw_GIkx3KjM...@giganews.com...

Oh, a literalist, eh.

[*Hemidactylus*]

He shares your hippie obsession:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMb-gDjYiSg

[Roger Shrubber]

On Mar 5, 10:51�am, *Hemidactylus* <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/04/2013 07:46 PM, Glenn wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> > "*Hemidactylus*" <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ErKdncmqIIBhpqjM...@giganews.com...

> >> On 03/04/2013 07:17 PM, Glenn wrote:
>

> >>> "*Hemidactylus*" <ecpho...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:R_edndLh6bzgqKjM...@giganews.com...

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe ... will be lost
in time, like (alcohol infused) tears in the rain.

So one more ending and two ready sources for streaming
EtOH. Mind you, crying into your beer is discouraged.

[*Hemidactylus*]

Have you ever heard the expression tears in my beer? Along with dogs,
ex-wives and muddy 4X4s it's a common county music refrain. Thus alcohol
consumption can lead to stuff exiting from the eye area too. Let's not
forget sweat glands, which I'm not even going to try counting.

[Glenn]

"*Hemidactylus*" <ecph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5oWdnZbUNbrw2qjM...@giganews.com...

I'm not obsessed with you.

[*Hemidactylus*]

And don't forget alcohol pours out the pores:

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-09-25/news/36930763_1_prisons-local-governments-alcohol