Where are the pitchforks and torches?

[RonO]

So it has been half a year since the ID perps admitted that there was no
ID science worth calling science. The Discovery Institute put up a
"best" of ID list that was so lame that most of the IDiots on TO just
ran from the reality. Dean claimed that he didn't know why the junk was
so bad, and when he found out he tried to misdirect the argument to
plagiarism before trying to claim that there was other junk that was the
ID science, but the other junk is obviously worse than the best. Pags
claimed that the "best" list was bogus even though the ID perps that
have been selling him the ID/creationist scam for over 22 years were the
ones to make the "best" claims. He even claimed that some of the junk
didn't apply to IDiocy. The ID perps themselves have claimed that the
switch scam like denial junk has nothing to do with IDiocy, so Pags
could be onto something, but it doesn't mean that the pathetic junk
isn't the "best" that the ID perps can do. Even if this junk does have
nothing to do with IDiocy the ID perps claim that it is the best that
they have.

Where are the pitchforks and torches? Why aren't there more IDiots like
Pags? Pags and Dean must feel betrayed. Why are IDiots like Glenn,
Nyikos and Kalk just running away in denial and can't even bring
themselves to address the issue? Bill has started to claim that he
never was an IDiot even though he has obviously supported the ID scam on
TO for years. What kind of solution is that? The ID perps are still
selling the ID scam to the rubes. Glenn can still put up their current
propaganda pamphlet and it still claims that they have the ID science to
teach in the public schools.

So what is going to happen? It has been half a year and the ID perps
have not retracted the list or even commented on it that I know of.
This is all the IDiots have, and none of them can deal with it in a
rational manner. This list was likely supposed to be a "gift" to IDiots
from the ID perps. It should tell even them most lost among them that
the bait and switch will continue to go down and that it is senseless to
try to teach the junk in the public schools no matter what else the ID
perps claim. The ID perps are likely just tired of running the bait and
switch. They had to run the switch scam on the Utah IDiots that wanted
to teach the IDiocy while they were putting up this list. No IDiots
have ever gotten the promised ID science, and the "best" list should
tell anyone why that is the case. The ID perps do not even claim that
the "best" is scientific evidence. This is the current reality for
IDiocy.

It looks like the creationist intelligent design movement is effectively
dead.

Ron Okimoto

[Lucifer Stars]

I - an electric current is a flow of electric charge. In electric circuits this charge is often carried by moving electrons in a wire. It can also be carried by ions in an electrolyte, or by both ions and electrons such as in an ionised gas (plasma).

D - volumetric mass density of a substance is its mass per unit volume. Mathematically, density is defined as mass divided by volume. For a pure substance the density has the same numerical value as its mass concentration. ID units in A*kg/m^3.

Say! ID's Science! Satan

[Lucifer Stars]

On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 9:25:04 AM UTC-5, O Satan! wrote:
>
> I - an electric current is a flow of electric charge. In electric circuits this charge is often carried by moving electrons in a wire. It can also be carried by ions in an electrolyte, or by both ions and electrons such as in an ionised gas (plasma).
>
> D - volumetric mass density of a substance is its mass per unit volume. Mathematically, density is defined as mass divided by volume. For a pure substance the density has the same numerical value as its mass concentration.
>
>ID units in A*kg/m^3.

Ampere x kilogram / cubic metre. (ID)

O Lucifer!

[Kalkidas]

RonO <roki...@cox.net> Wrote in message:
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> ...
> ...IDiots...
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> plagiarism... junk...
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>...perps...
>...scam...
>...junk
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[Peter Nyikos]

That's Ron O, all right. He's buried his head in the sand about
everything I've said to him in the last half year, and refuses
to talk about all the idiotic, deluded, libelous, or just plain
false things I've caught him at during that time.

He claims he'll address those things after I've replied to an indeterminate
number of posts of his from which I am "running away", including some
he made over seven (7) years ago. But since I've "run away" from thousands
of hate-crazed things he's said against me, and he can always insist
that I reply to every single point he's made, that is just his
way of saying "never."

And so, I'm telling you this, Kalkidas, and not him: in the post
of his to which you are replying in a very appropriate way,

he wrote:

Why are IDiots like Glenn, Nyikos and Kalk just running away
in denial and can't even bring themselves to address the issue?

The fact is, as soon as I returned to talk.origins in December 2010,
Okimoto's blind hatred of the Discovery Institute (DI) caused him to
think that I somehow am a spokesperson for it, or at least someone
who was fooled by it at some point. And so all his
maniacal hatred for the DI was duplicated by hatred for me,
all based on some such demented premise of his.

He's also gotten it into his head that I believe in a creator
and in an immortal soul, with zero input from me to go on, except
the fact that I have maintained my membership in the Roman Catholic
Church and abide by its rules as long as I remain a member.

I keep telling all and sundry in talk.origins, including Ron O
himself, that I am an agnostic, and that, much as I would
*like* to believe in the basic tenets of Christianity, my
confidence level in there being a creator of our universe
is only around 10%, and since Christianity maintains that,
my confidence level in it is necessarily somewhat lower.


By the way, when was the last time you saw Ron O claim that
he was a "creationist" and/or that he believed in a creator?
It was at least two years ago that I saw him make that claim, IIRC.


Peter Nyikos

[Lucifer Stars]

G = 6.671281903963... × 10−11 m^3/kg*s^2 [exact]
G = 2/c [numerics always exact]

O Satan! O Iblis!
(SI) O Lucifer!

Chapter 13

[Lucifer Stars]

On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 10:40:03 AM UTC-5, O Satan! O Iblis! O Lucifer! wrote:
>
> G = 6.671281903963... e-11 N m2 s-2 [exact]

> G = 2/c [numerics always exact]
>
> O Satan! O Iblis!
> (SI) O Lucifer!
>
> Chapter 13

The Sand Reckoner

[RonO]

Isn't it sad that this is all that you can do? What do you do close one
eye and pretend that what you snip out isn't there?

Where are the pitchforks and torches? You have to be ticked off at the
ID perps after all these years of going to them for their ID scam junk
and getting squat. Now that they have given you their best why run for
the past 6 months?

Why have you run from what the ID perps have bestowed upon you?

Just think for a second and everything that you deleted should tell you
something about what you are running from.

Are you going to run forever or is there some end to it? Reality isn't
going to change by snipping out and running from reality.

Ron Okimoto

[RonO]

On 5/9/2018 9:59 AM, Kalkidas wrote:

Looks like all the IDiots can do is snip and run from reality.

Here it is again so that Kalk and Nyikos can run from reality again.

How can these two stand to do this sort of junk when they have run from
the "best" IDiot evidence that the ID perps bestowed upon them for the
last 6 months. It was no joke. The ID perps have not retracted their
bogus list. It is the reality that no IDiot can accept. So why run in
denial? If they could counter they would, but they can't even get
themselves to address the ID perp's "best" list.

Dean and Pags don't think that the "best" is the best, but they have
both run from their efforts to demonstrate otherwise. Kalk, Nyikos and
Glenn have just run in denial and can't bring themselves to address the
"best". Bill's solution was to claim that nothing really exists so it
doesn't matter, but recently he has started to claim that he was never
an IDiot. All those years of supporting the ID scam, and he never
supported it. Bill was the IDiot that claimed that he knew some real ID
scientists with the real ID science, but we never found out who they
were or what they were doing. This is how IDiocy died on TO and it is
really so outrageously pathetic that even the IDiots should understand
how badly off they are, but what are they doing?

Repost:

END Repost:

[Peter Nyikos]

> Here it is again so that [I, Ron Okimoto] can run from reality again.

Fixed it for you.

And don't complain about my reply being so belated.
I told you long ago that you don't deserve more than one reply from
me per month.

> How can these two stand to do this sort of junk when they have run from
> the "best" IDiot evidence that the ID perps bestowed upon them for the
> last 6 months.

The DI never bestowed anything in the way of The Argument from Design
on me. I have charted a far superior course for decades, even before
I knew of the existence of the DI (Discovery Institute).

That is the main reality from which you have been running away
ever since you first encountered me in December 2010. And that
predates your precious Ohio "bait and switch" allegations that
you keep using as an excuse for running away from newer and
newer revelations about your dishonesty, hypocrisy, and cowardice.

> It was no joke. The ID perps have not retracted their
> bogus list.

It's a good thing I paid so little attention to it that
I've forgotten what it was.

> It is the reality that no IDiot can accept. So why run in
> denial? If they could counter they would, but they can't even get
> themselves to address the ID perp's "best" list.

It never occurs to a monomaniac like you that I never cared
one whit about the list that you call "best". That's because
you have fallen hopelessly in love with the delusion that
I am an IDiot.

>
> Dean and Pags don't think that the "best" is the best, but they have
> both run from their efforts to demonstrate otherwise. Kalk, Nyikos and
> Glenn have just run in denial

You continue to show how hopelessly in love with your delusion you are.
You confuse complete lack of interest with "run[ning] in denial."

> and can't bring themselves to address the
> "best". Bill's solution was to claim that nothing really exists so it
> doesn't matter, but recently he has started to claim that he was never
> an IDiot. All those years of supporting the ID scam, and he never
> supported it. Bill was the IDiot that claimed that he knew some real ID
> scientists with the real ID science,

Did he? or is this another delusion with which you are hopelessly in love?

> but we never found out who they
> were or what they were doing. This is how IDiocy died on TO and it is
> really so outrageously pathetic that even the IDiots should understand
> how badly off they are, but what are they doing?

First you have to figure out WHO they are. But your monomania
prevents you from even trying.

>
> Repost:
> So it has been half a year since the ID perps admitted that there was no
> ID science worth calling science. The Discovery Institute put up a
> "best" of ID list that was so lame that most of the IDiots on TO just
> ran from the reality. Dean claimed that he didn't know why the junk was
> so bad, and when he found out he tried to misdirect the argument to
> plagiarism before trying to claim that there was other junk that was the
> ID science, but the other junk is obviously worse than the best. Pags
> claimed that the "best" list was bogus even though the ID perps that
> have been selling him the ID/creationist scam for over 22 years were the
> ones to make the "best" claims. He even claimed that some of the junk
> didn't apply to IDiocy. The ID perps themselves have claimed that the
> switch scam like denial junk has nothing to do with IDiocy, so Pags
> could be onto something, but it doesn't mean that the pathetic junk
> isn't the "best" that the ID perps can do. Even if this junk does have
> nothing to do with IDiocy the ID perps claim that it is the best that
> they have.
>
> Where are the pitchforks and torches? Why aren't there more IDiots like
> Pags? Pags and Dean must feel betrayed. Why are IDiots like Glenn,
> Nyikos and Kalk just running away in denial and can't even bring
> themselves to address the issue?

See above. Try bugging Glenn and Kalk to see whether they have a similar
attitude to mine.

> Bill has started to claim that he
> never was an IDiot even though he has obviously supported the ID scam on
> TO for years. What kind of solution is that? The ID perps are still
> selling the ID scam to the rubes. Glenn can still put up their current
> propaganda pamphlet and it still claims that they have the ID science to
> teach in the public schools.

If the pamphlet says that THEY have the science in
a form READY to teach in the public schools, why have
you wasted everyone's time for 8 or more years with your own
bait and switch scam? You bait them with these kinds
of promises and then switch to a quotation from a website
that says nothing of the sort.

Yet you go on projecting your love of your own bait and switch
scam onto the DI. You are truly pathetic.

> So what is going to happen? It has been half a year and the ID perps
> have not retracted the list or even commented on it that I know of.
> This is all the IDiots have, and none of them can deal with it in a
> rational manner. This list was likely supposed to be a "gift" to IDiots
> from the ID perps.

Actually it was a gift from you to yourself. What evidence do
you have that Glenn and Kalk even read it?

> It should tell even them most lost among them that
> the bait and switch will continue to go down and that it is senseless to
> try to teach the junk in the public schools no matter what else the ID
> perps claim. The ID perps are likely just tired of running the bait and
> switch. They had to run the switch scam on the Utah IDiots that wanted
> to teach the IDiocy while they were putting up this list. No IDiots
> have ever gotten the promised ID science, and the "best" list should
> tell anyone why that is the case. The ID perps do not even claim that
> the "best" is scientific evidence. This is the current reality for
> IDiocy.
>
> It looks like the creationist intelligent design movement is effectively
> dead.
>
> Ron Okimoto
> END Repost:

Your integrity is effectively dead, and you are so proud of your
pathetic handiwork that you've reposted it.

Peter Nyikos

[Oxyaena]

On 8/24/2018 2:07 PM, Peter Nyikos wrote:
[snip mindless bullshit]

From now on whenever you demand documentation on the fact that you like
to spam your shit all over t.o., you like to troll others, you like to
increase bandwidth by reviving dead threads, that you're an utter prick,
etc. this is the post I'll bring up.

[Panthera Tigris Altaica]

I found his vapid posturing about integrity to be deliciously ironic.

[RonO]

You just have to lie alot. What is that like after all these years of
doing it?

I guess it is time to repost the repost that will make the lying asshole
run again. Beats me why he keeps coming back just so that he can lie
and run. That type of behavior has to get old even for someone as lost
as Nyikos. For some reason Nyikos just can't get that I don't want to
discuss anything with the asshole. It should be apparent why just from
the repost that Nyikos has to keep running from.

Link to what Nyikos has already run from in July, and it hasn't been two
months.

July post that should be fresh in Nyikos' mind, what there is left of it.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/A9bQGe7vntQ/kUc04OWjBAAJ

Nyikos requested the evidence, but he ran after getting it.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/A9bQGe7vntQ/FlmowIqvCQAJ

Original link: Yes, Nyikos has been lying and running from this repost
since 2014. I have to trot it out every few months when the lying
asshole starts bugging me. It is the quickest way that I have found to
make the lying loser run.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/b4eNYHIncSY/Zw0DAKbDvGEJ

The Wells post with quotes because Nyikos tried to lie about the links
that have gone broken:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/H2Sw6NFIi4s/bu37mUbcBQAJ

Repost:
REPOST:
It looks like Nyikos has started to run again and there is no doubt that
�tomorrow� has not come in terms of the posts that Nyikos claimed that
he would relentlessly pursue. The pattern has been the same for years,
and it has been stupid and ridiculous for years. Nyikos has some weird
insane notion that he has never lied on the internet and that he has
never lost an exchange on the internet. These stupid lies seem to drive
him to keep going back to his old stupidity where he has lied or just
been plain wrong so that he can continue some weird type of denial of
reality. Nyikos has a personal definition of running that includes not
answering a post for over two months, so he has to keep pestering me
every couple of months in order for him to continue his insane denial of
reality. This is the boob who early on (years ago) accused me of
running from a post for two whole weeks when there was no reason that I
should have even known that the post existed because he had posted it to
someone else. This is the type of projection of his own stupidity that
Nyikos has to indulge in, in order to continue his senseless denial.

I have decided that instead of having to deal with the same old, same
old over and over that I will just take advantage of the latest Nykosian
denial to put together a post that I can just repost when Nyikos starts
posting to me again. I have had to look up and link to some of the
first material that Nyikos had to run from and deny so instead of
continuing to have to look the junk up just to have Nyikos run again, I
will just start reposting this post.

Nyikos started to harass me again after months of running in this thread:
Why do the ID perps run the bait and switch scam on their own
creationist (9/10/14)
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/38nQm79NC94/VLf_vGDImnIJ

He had to start lying about the past as usual, so I demonstrated that he
was lying and he decided to run, but as is also usually the case he had
to pretend to be addressing the posts so he lied to Glenn that he would
address the material that he is still running from �tomorrow,� but
tomorrow obviously has not come. It is like his ploy where he claims
that he will "continue" but runs from the material that he has deleted.

One of the posts Nyikos had run from (9/13/14):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/38nQm79NC94/00GyMLoAhDcJ

It is obvious that Nyikos had to run from this post because when the
same evidence has been put up in other posts he has snipped it out and
run or just run. He has failed to address this evidence multiple times.

The Nyikosian lie to Glenn about tomorrow (9/16/14):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/38nQm79NC94/vOPLiVKsp4kJ

QUOTE:
Ron O has really ramped up his campaign of deceit against me on this
thread. I won't have time for it until tomorrow, Glenn, but I will
relentlessly pursue him on this thread. One thing I should explain
now, though. Back at a time when Hemidactylus gave the appearance of
sincerity, I promised him I would only reply to Ron O very sparingly
from that point on.

But Hemidactylus has gone off the deep end, and he now is completely
on Ron O's side despite having tried to look above it all in the past.

So I consider myself released from my promise: it is quite possible
that he only held off revealing what a toady he is of Ron O because
I kept to my promise, but his irrational hatred for me caused him to cast
caution to the winds.

Peter Nyikos
END QUOTE:

Poor Hemi. Nyikos harassed him for years with his claims that his
knockdowns were still coming, and Nyikos will not even tell me what the
last knockdown was supposed to be and give me a link to the post. Now
Glenn will have to deal with the tomorrow that never came.

Instead of address the posts that Nyikos claimed that he would
relentlessly pursue Nyikos started to lie about the issues in new posts
even after I noted his claim above, so I took some time and looked up
the old evidence that Nyikos had run from years ago.

Wells on the Ohio Bait and Switch in 2002 (9/21/14)
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/H2Sw6NFIi4s/c7cRQzCvA2YJ

It wasn�t a futile exercise because I learned something that I had not
known before. I found a report that Wells had written (likely for the
other ID perps at the Discovery Institute) where he admits that Meyer
and he in consultation with others had decided to run the bait and
switch on the Ohio rubes before they went to Ohio. Their presentation
on the science of intelligent design was just for show, and Wells�
comment to the Ohio board that there was enough scientific support for
ID that it could be required to be taught in the Ohio public schools was
just bogus propaganda because they had no intention of providing the ID
science for the creationist rubes to teach. The ID perps sold the rubes
the ID scam and then only gave them a stupid obfuscation switch scam
that did not even mention that ID had ever existed. I will also note
that the addition to the Discovery Institute�s education policy
qualifier, that they did not want ID required to be taught in the public
schools, was not added until after the Ohio bait and switch. I noticed
that they had added it sometime around the Dover fiasco. The copy of
their education policy that was in their 2007 Dover propaganda pamphlet
definitely had the �required� qualification.

This is a post where I link to the old posts where Nyikos was running in
denial about being wrong about the Ohio bait and switch and the
Discovery Institute�s involvement from 2011.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/H2Sw6NFIi4s/IfNy4J5a4pEJ

Dover propaganda pamphlet on why intelligent design science could still
be taught in the public schools:
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=1453



Trying to find new issues to misdirect the argument to, Nyikos started
making bogus claims about another old thread even after he had snipped
and ran from the obvious explanation twice.

Unnoted change in policy at the Discovery Institute. (9/1/13)
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/_UKCQLy_THM/LS3yPcug9t8J

The issue was what I believed that Glenn was arguing in this thread. I
at first thought that Glenn was adding to the evidence that the
education policy had changed from what it was. The pamphlet that he put
up had the old education policy in it and contained the paragraph about
teaching the scientific theory of intelligent design that the Discovery
Institute had removed. It was the perfect example of how the education
policy had changed. When he started some weird negative campaign I
thought that he was claiming that the education policy had not changed
and he was using the Dover pamphlet to do it. I informed him that he
could not use a document that had been updated in 2009 to deny something
that the Discovery Institute had recently done, but he kept up his
nonsensical argument. Glenn now claims that he was not talking about
the education policy shift, but was only trying to claim that the ID
perps were still selling the ID is science scam. How could he use a 4
year old document to claim that? It also makes no sense to me because I
would have agreed with Glenn that the ID scam was going to continue.
There would have been no reason for us to argue if Glenn had been
clearer on what he was doing. It doesn�t matter for Nyikos because
Nyikos denies that the ID perps claim to have the ID science in that
pamphlet, so he is wrong no matter what Glenn was arguing.

Nyikos Snipping and running from this reality:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/38nQm79NC94/FawHtAIHPFoJ

Nyikos removing what he cannot deal with again in a post manipulation
that you have to compare to the above post to understand the stupidity
of what Nyikos does. This post really is a monument to the stupidity
that Nyikos indulges in.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/38nQm79NC94/TeXllwSwW0MJ

Nyikos has not addressed this post in the original policy change thread:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/_UKCQLy_THM/NLk50v_IujsJ

Nyikos claims that I did not respond to his post, but I gave him the link:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/38nQm79NC94/mR2PtcMGS_8J

It has been a vacation of sorts for me, but likely hell for other
posters in the months that Nyikos was running and just lying about his
escapades to other posters. I will just note the last instance of
harassment that Nyikos should try to deal with instead of running like
he did.

Nyikos� previous harassment thread:
By their Fruits May 2014 (5/22/14)
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/ttHhTTke_zE/3eaOhuIMGm8J

Nyikos started the above thread to harass me, but it backfired on him
because of his own stupid dishonesty, and he had to delete his post that
he started the thread with from my responses in order to keep lying. He
removed his original post twice from the discussion because he could not
defend his bogus tactics. Nyikos is that sad. Nyikos really has the
toddler mentality that if he pulls the blanket over his head no one can
see him. It is a weird delusional quirk that drives him to remove the
evidence from a post so that he can continue to deny reality.

By their Fruits March 2014
The thread that spawned the harassment thread.
Giving Nyikos some advice that he should have taken:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/1MGKcHaFVtI/6fiXahJH9fMJ

My response to what Nyikos did:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.origins/1MGKcHaFVtI/vKg4Lu0kxB0J

Nyikos ran and started the harassment thread.

I realize that Nyikos is likely going to run and just harass other
posters with his stupid denial of reality, but I can�t do anything about
Nyikos except to expose the liar when he posts to me and get him to
leave me alone for a few weeks or months. Just imagine what a hell it
would be if I followed Nyikos around TO with a pooper scooper and set
him straight whenever he started lying about me to some other posters.
I am going to save this document onto my desktop for the next time
Nyikos can�t keep himself from his stupid sadistic harassment. I plan
to just repost it and tell the loon that he can address what he has
already run from before starting something else or lying about the past
some other way.

Ron Okimoto
END REPOST:

Ron Okimoto

[Mark Isaak]

On 8/24/18 11:07 AM, Peter Nyikos wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-4, Ron O wrote:

> [huge snip]

>
>> It is the reality that no IDiot can accept. So why run in
>> denial? If they could counter they would, but they can't even get
>> themselves to address the ID perp's "best" list.
>
> It never occurs to a monomaniac like you that I never cared
> one whit about the list that you call "best". That's because
> you have fallen hopelessly in love with the delusion that
> I am an IDiot.

If you are not an IDiot, why do you consistently defend the utterly
worthless trash of irreducible complexity, even after you have admitted
the failure of all of its pieces?

--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) curioustaxonomy (dot) net
"Omnia disce. Videbis postea nihil esse superfluum."
- Hugh of St. Victor

[jillery]

On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:07:16 -0700 (PDT), Peter Nyikos
<nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-4, Ron O wrote:
>> On 5/9/2018 9:59 AM, Kalkidas wrote:
>> > RonO <roki...@cox.net> Wrote in message:

<snip repetitive spew>

This moment of resurrecting a dead post brought to us by Nyikos the
peter.

--
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Attributed to Voltaire

[jillery]

Yeppers. My experience is that almost all off Nyikos the peter's
posts are usefully understood as self-parody.

[jillery]

On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:42:19 -0700, Mark Isaak
<eciton@curiousta/xyz/xonomy.net> wrote:

>On 8/24/18 11:07 AM, Peter Nyikos wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-4, Ron O wrote:
>> [huge snip]
>>
>>> It is the reality that no IDiot can accept. So why run in
>>> denial? If they could counter they would, but they can't even get
>>> themselves to address the ID perp's "best" list.
>>
>> It never occurs to a monomaniac like you that I never cared
>> one whit about the list that you call "best". That's because
>> you have fallen hopelessly in love with the delusion that
>> I am an IDiot.
>
>If you are not an IDiot, why do you consistently defend the utterly
>worthless trash of irreducible complexity, even after you have admitted
>the failure of all of its pieces?

Nyikos the peter already admitted he intentionally includes such spew
just to obscure any relevant points he might accidentally make.

[RonO]

On 8/24/2018 10:42 PM, Mark Isaak wrote:
> On 8/24/18 11:07 AM, Peter Nyikos wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 9:55:02 PM UTC-4, Ron O wrote:
>> [huge snip]
>>
>>> It is the reality that no IDiot can accept.  So why run in
>>> denial?  If they could counter they would, but they can't even get
>>> themselves to address the ID perp's "best" list.
>>
>> It never occurs to a monomaniac like you that I never cared
>> one whit about the list that you call "best". That's because
>> you have fallen hopelessly in love with the delusion that
>> I am an IDiot.
>
> If you are not an IDiot, why do you consistently defend the utterly
> worthless trash of irreducible complexity, even after you have admitted
> the failure of all of its pieces?
>

Not being an IDiot is one of the more stupid lies that Nyikos keeps
repeating. The sad fact is that his bogus junk that has resulted in our
exchanges for the last 8 years was due to his supporting the ID perps at
the Discovery Institute in one of his first posts when he returned to
TO. He has had to lie and run bogus ploys just because he was wrong
about that. I have been paying for that Nyikosian stupidity for years.
For some reason Nyikos didn't want the Discovery Institute involved in
the bait and switch scam that they are still running (no one has ever
gotten the ID science from them). Utah IDiots were the latest victims
when they wanted to teach the ID scam junk, and the bait and switch went
down even as the ID perps were putting up their "best" of IDiocy last
November.

You should remember that Nyikos was one of the first IDiots on TO before
most of us even knew what IDiocy was. He and Julie Thomas were among
the first to bring IDiocy onto TO.

Nyikos took his break from TO before the bait and switch started to go
down, but when he started posting again, years later, he still supported
the ID scam junk. He has been one of the most rabid IC supporters. He
used to be the biggest advocate for what Dembski claimed was the most
scientific of the IDiot alternatives (space alien designers) but we
haven't heard about that for a while.

This is just the type of bogus Nyikosian behavior that I have had to
deal with since that stupid 2010 post of his denying that the ID perps
ran the bait and switch on the Ohio rubes. He can't even believe Wells
when in his report Wells claims that the ID perps got together just
before the Ohio dog and pony show and decided that they were going to
run the bait and switch instead of give the Ohio rubes the ID science to
teach in the public schools. In the repost above, the posts that Nyikos
claimed that he would address tomorrow, but instead has run from to this
day, contained evidence that the ID perps were selling the teach ID scam
before they started running the bait and switch. It is just sad that
the teach ID scam is what the Discovery Institute was most known for
before they started running the bait and switch. Who did the IDiots
call in when they wanted to teach the junk? It is just another fact
that he can't deal with.

Snipping and lying about the past is about all he can do at this point,
and all that you can expect. You are talking about the guy that claims
to go to church regularly, and who also claims to be a Catholic and
agnostic. Nyikos has supported Pascal's wager on TO, so he could
believe that he can lie to God too.

Ron Okimoto