Pandering to Creationist fucks
Fredric L. Rice
Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries refrain
from letting the screaming children get their way.
---
Nobody needs Texas
Does belief in astrology cause insanity? http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
Kalkidas
"Fredric L. Rice" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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> http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leadership-america-mus
>
> Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>
> An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries
> refrain
> from letting the screaming children get their way.
Troll.
chris thompson
> "Fredric L. Rice" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in messagenews:NMCdnUZgO65B7mTW...@posted.sonicnet...
>
>
> > Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> > Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>
> > An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> > to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries
> > refrain
> > from letting the screaming children get their way.
>
> Troll.
Do you think that simply trying to apply that label to someone makes
it so?
Do you think that just because someone posts something you do not like
makes that person a troll?
It is an idiotic response. It is a flight from reality. It is an
obviously desperate attempt to remake reality in the form you wish it
to be, rather than what it is.
Chris
Kalkidas
"chris thompson" <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Assistant troll.
Will in New Haven
> "chris thompson" <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Fraud. Liar who preys on people by selling them false analysis. If you
don't know astrology is false, you are a fool. If you do, you are a
thief.
--
Will in New Haven
r norman
The fact is that the original poster is, indeed, rather a troll. The
Birther movement is completely separate from the Creationist movement
even though the sets of proponents might have major overlap.
The Bill Maher column cited has absolutely no mention whatsoever of
Creationists.
Greg G.
> http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leade...
>
> Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>
> An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries refrain
> from letting the screaming children get their way.
There is a precedent. My great-great-grandfather (first generation
from England) was big in small town politics. A political counterpart
waited at the poll on Election Day and challenged my gggrandfather for
his citizenship papers when he arrived to vote. He had to return home
to retrieve the credentials before he was allowed to vote.
The next election, my gggrandfather got there first to challenge his
rival's right to vote and made him go hunt down his birth certificate.
Eric Root
> "chris thompson" <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
You know, actual sentences require predicates.
Eric Root
Free Lunch
talk.origins:
No, Maher really wrote that. He thought that the Republican leadership
should prove that they were not eight-year-olds.
Free Lunch
talk.origins:
>
Says someone who is proudly disengaged from reality.
Free Lunch
wrote in talk.origins:
Sure, but the GOP has been pandering to all sorts of reality-deniers.
Creationists are one such group.
David Hare-Scott
The OP is one of the least thoughtful poster here. This reply is no better.
David
Martin Andersen
creationists during his bit about republican politicians having to
present birth certificates. The rant is about how american conservatives
pander to the fringe and therefore argue whether or not evolution is
even true, while the UK conservatives don't.
Friar Broccoli
> On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:11:39 -0700 (PDT), chris thompson
>
>
>
> <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 23, 2:47�pm, "Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub> wrote:
> >> "Fredric L. Rice" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in messagenews:NMCdnUZgO65B7mTW...@posted.sonicnet...
>
> >> >http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leade...
>
> >> > Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> >> > Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>
> >> > An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> >> > to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries
> >> > refrain
> >> > from letting the screaming children get their way.
>
> >> Troll.
>
> >Do you think that simply trying to apply that label to someone makes
> >it so?
>
> >Do you think that just because someone posts something you do not like
> >makes that person a troll?
>
> >It is an idiotic response. It is a flight from reality. It is an
> >obviously desperate attempt to remake reality in the form you wish it
> >to be, rather than what it is.
.
> The fact is that the original poster is, indeed, rather a troll. �
My only problem with this comment is that it is way too polite - which
is why I felt compelled to say nothing at all.
Desertphile
L. Rice) wrote:
> http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leadership-america-mus
>
> Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
Just as long as the birth certificats are not from Hawai'i. Those
don't count.
> An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries refrain
> from letting the screaming children get their way.
Well, er, uh, yeah.... it's politics in the USA. What the hell
else do you expect?
> ---
> Nobody needs Texas
> Does belief in astrology cause insanity? http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Desertphile
Yes: factual troll. The article, and the post here in usenet,
clearly stated the current state of the USA Republican Party. The
Grand Ole Party did not used to pander to the stupidiest, the
paranoids, the uneducated, the wilful ignorant..... and now it
does, exclusively. It is a good thing that all of the old guard
Republicans, like Lincoln and Ingersoll, no longer exist: they
would wail in horror and sadness at what has become of the party.
Desertphile
In the 1980s several leaders of the Krishna Consciousness cult
were sent to prison for murder, kidnapping, robbery, and assorted
other crimes.
chris thompson
Maybe you should watch the Maher coolumn in its entirety. Creationism
is mentioned as is evolution.
Chris
Will in New Haven
Yes, the OP is a troll. That he is often on the side of reason and
science does not prevent him from being a troll. However, he is in
this thread and Kalkidas is in this thread. Those who wish to make
their ammunition count know which way to shoot.
Will in New Haven
wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2010 11:47:25 -0700, "Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub>
> wrote:
>
> > "Fredric L. Rice" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
> >news:NMCdnUZgO65B7mTW...@posted.sonicnet...
>
> > > Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> > > Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>
> > > An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> > > to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries
> > > refrain from letting the screaming children get their way.
> > Troll.
>
> Yes: factual troll. The article, and the post here in usenet,
> clearly stated the current state of the USA Republican Party. The
> Grand Ole Party did not used to pander to the stupidiest, the
> paranoids, the uneducated, the wilful ignorant..... and now it
> does, exclusively. It is a good thing that all of the old guard
> Republicans, like Lincoln and Ingersoll, no longer exist: they
> would wail in horror and sadness at what has become of the party.
You don't have to go back that far. Goldwater, whatever else his
faults, denounced the influence of religion on politics, Buckley died
heartbroken about his party, and his nation. When they teach kids
today about early U.S. history, they have to be very careful to
differentiate between THAT No-Nothing Party and THIS one.
Kermit
wrote:> >http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leade...
>
> > Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> > Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>
> Just as long as the birth certificats are not from Hawai'i. Those
> don't count.
They don't. They only have certificates of live birth, which are a
very different thing. The jeans of blue I am wearing are not blue
genes, and leg of lamb is not lamb's leg.
Sigh.
It wouldn't bother me so much if they demanded the same of their own
political candidates. You know, *real evidence - not this printed and
signed piece of paper with a baby' footprint, newspaper notices, and
hospital records. Vetted by the FBI? Feh - they're bunch of liberals
anyway.
>
> > An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> > to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries refrain
> > from letting the screaming children get their way.
>
> Well, er, uh, yeah.... it's politics in the USA. What the hell
> else do you expect?
Duels! Or at least fisticuffs.
Russia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGaaqH2o6I
Korea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJdZ0TocTlo
Taiwan, Ukraine, even the UK IIRC.
Have we had a fist fight since Pat Buchanan lurked in dark corners in
DC?
>
> > ---
> > Nobody needs Texas
> > Does belief in astrology cause insanity?http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
>
> Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
> "Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Kermit
r norman
The notion of vigilantes running out shooting wildly after somebody,
even a known bad guy, somehow does not strike me as proper.
If you want go after Kalkidas, be my guest. But please use good
arguments based on fact. In this case, you agree that Kalkidas'
original response is, indeed, correct. So why attack him for this
particular statement? I was particularly concerned with the person
who wrote "It is an idiotic response. It is a flight from reality. It
is an obviously desperate attempt to remake reality in the form you
wish it to be, rather than what it is." You and I and others agree
that the single word "troll" (what kalkidas actually wrote) was quite
correct and therefore should be left alone. Attack him on what is
worthy of attack, if you want to make your ammunition count.
Hidden Agenda
Is that what the stupid fuck is crying about? My debunking of believers
and frauds who sell astrology?
I sure hope so. As they say, "First you have to get their attention."
Hidden Agenda
Translation: The rightard couldn't point to anything I wrote or anything
Bill Maher said that's in any way mistaken.
You lose, rightard. Again. As you lost in life. As always. Cunt. }:-}
Hidden Agenda
>On 23-05-2010 22:01, r norman wrote:
>> The Bill Maher column cited has absolutely no mention whatsoever of
>> Creationists.
This individual is mistaken, Maher specifically points out Creationists.
>Actually, if you watch the video, Bill Maher does indeed mention
>creationists during his bit about republican politicians having to
>present birth certificates. The rant is about how american conservatives
>pander to the fringe and therefore argue whether or not evolution is
>even true, while the UK conservatives don't.
Yep. And Creationists are *equal* to Birthers, they *are* the same people.
Hidden Agenda
>On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:28:44 GMT, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>> http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leadership-america-mus
>> to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries refrain
>> from letting the screaming children get their way.
>Well, er, uh, yeah.... it's politics in the USA. What the hell
>else do you expect?
Certainly not reason or civility from the religious. It's amusing. I had
never heard about this Bill Maher person until he started denouncing
rightarded extremism and unthinking which adversely impacts the health,
safety, and sanity of the United States. He's supposedly a comedian yet
he gives the news far more accurately than FOX "News" does.
Kalkidas
"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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Assistant troll's diaper.
Kalkidas
"Hidden Agenda" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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> Will in New Haven <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>>On May 23, 3:43 pm, "Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub> wrote:
>
>>Fraud. Liar who preys on people by selling them false analysis. If you
>>don't know astrology is false, you are a fool. If you do, you are a
>>thief.
>
> Is that what the stupid fuck is crying about? My debunking of believers
> and frauds who sell astrology?
>
> I sure hope so. As they say, "First you have to get their attention."
Troll.
Kalkidas
"Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message
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Assistant troll's underwear.
Ernest Major
Agenda <fr...@skeptictank.org> writes
>"Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub> wrote:
>
>>"Fredric L. Rice" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
>>news:NMCdnUZgO65B7mTW...@posted.sonicnet...
>>>
>>>http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leader
>>>ship-america-mus
>>> Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
>>> Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>>> An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
>>> to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries
>>> refrain from letting the screaming children get their way.
>> Troll.
>
>Translation: The rightard couldn't point to anything I wrote or anything
>Bill Maher said that's in any way mistaken.
>
>You lose, rightard. Again. As you lost in life. As always. Cunt. }:-}
>
handle.
--
alias Ernest Major
Desertphile
wrote:
> >> Assistant troll.
> Assistant troll's underwear.
When the Krishna Consciousness mob's leader (Prabhupada) died in
1977, the crime syndicate's ten capos fought over the assets of
the cult. The result was convictions for murder, kidnapping,
racketeering, extortion, burgalry, mail fraud, rape of little
girls, beatings of childern, conspiracy to obstruct justice, and
other crimes.
Chanting a god's name 24 hours a day did not stop nearly a dozen
Krishna devotees from behaving like Mafia psychopaths.
Hidden Agenda
It's possible that you think a lot of things that are not true.
---
SAVE TREES. WIPE YOUR ASS WITH AN OWL.
Kalkidas
Assistant troll's diaper's contents.
Desertphile
wrote:
> Assistant troll's diaper's contents.
But enough about you. Let's talk about your criminal cult.
You asserted that all of science cannot be trusted to find "truth"
because a few scientists in the past 100 years or so faked their
data. Your moral objection to the behavior of these tiny few
scientists is enough for you to reject science and the scientific
method.
Yet when the Krishna Consciousness mob's leader (Prabhupada) died
in 1977, the cult's top ten leaders next in line for the throne
fought over the assets (money, property, slaves) of the cult. The
result was convictions for murder, kidnapping, racketeering,
extortion, burglary, mail fraud, rape of little girls, beatings of
children, conspiracy to obstruct justice, and other crimes.
What the leaders of your cult did were vastly more evil than what
the scientists did, yet you castigate the scientists but you do
not castigate your cult's criminal leaders.
Do you know what the word "hypocrite" means? Here, let me help
you: "The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues
that one does not hold or possess; falseness."
If your moral objection to the behavior of a few scientists is
valid for rejecting science, then your moral objection should also
apply to your cult. Yet somehow, amazingly, it does not. Why is
that?
Glenn
> Ernest Major <{$t...@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >In message <ntGdnTJ3UOoxAWHWnZ2dnUVZ_sOdn...@posted.sonicnet>, Hidden
> >Agenda <fr...@skeptictank.org> writes
> >>"Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub> wrote:
> >>>"Fredric L. Rice" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:NMCdnUZgO65B7mTW...@posted.sonicnet...
> >>>> Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> >>>> Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
> >>>> An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians pandering
> >>>> to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries
> >>>> refrain from letting the screaming children get their way.
> >>> Troll.
> >>Translation: The rightard couldn't point to anything I wrote or anything
> >>Bill Maher said that's in any way mistaken.
> >>You lose, rightard. Again. As you lost in life. As always. Cunt. }:-}
>
> >I thought you had been persuaded to restrict yourself to a single handle.
>
> It's possible that you think a lot of things that are not true.
>
> ---
> SAVE TREES. WIPE YOUR ASS WITH AN OWL.
> Nobody needs Texas
> Does belief in astrology cause insanity?http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
This moron has gone through what, a half dozen nyms just in t.o. in
the course of a couple months or less.
I may be mistaken but I recall your warning him to stick with one. Now
it appears he is saying he is not persuaded to do so, and has a
"secret agenda", creating posts not xposted to any other groups. I'm
going for the popcorn.
John McKendry
The proper way to get DIG's attention on moderation issues is to send
email to talk-origi...@ediacara.org. He does not spend a lot of
time reading t.o. and cannot be relied on to notice posts like yours,
even when they have his initials in the Subject: line.
I sent him email about Fred's latest nym shift this morning. Haven't
heard back or seen any results here yet, but I'm hopeful.
John
Glenn
> time reading t.o. and cannot be relied on to notice posts like yours,
> even when they have his initials in the Subject: line.
>
> �I sent him email about Fred's latest nym shift this morning. Haven't
> heard back or seen any results here yet, but I'm hopeful.
>
forehead connected by string to Darwin will certainly alert him of any
posts directed in such a manner.
John McKendry
What is that expression that my sister-in-law taught me for this kind
of occasion? It'll come to me... OK, got it.
You could be right.
John
Kalkidas
Bit of corn in assistant troll's diapers contents.
chris thompson
Desertphile
wrote:
That's your defense?
Glenn
wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 15:36:14 -0700, "Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
David Iain Greig
I really don't appreciate public posts like this, if you need to make
comments like this, please do so privately.
I'm not singling you out, others do it, and it is not how I would prefer
to do this sort of thing, it looks.... populist.
--D.
Glenn
making and you have not objected in the past to being alerted
publicly. But I'll simply refrain from directing your attention to
anything in the future. Hopefully you are not implying that you didn't
appreciate the content of my post to the extent of not wanting similar
statements to be posted under any subject headers. If so, please be
more specific.
bpuharic
wrote:
>I don't see it that way, since nymshifting rules are of your own
>making and you have not objected in the past to being alerted
>publicly. But I'll simply refrain from directing your attention to
>anything in the future
what?
you were singing to the screw? man, that's low...
;=)
Desertphile
> > That's your defense?
He refuses to castigate evil acts, or to even acknowledge them,
because the evil acts were p[erformed by leaders of his demonic
cult. But what's your excuse?
If it had been my religion (neo-paganism), I would not have
hesitated to denounce the evil-doers and demand their punishment.
That makes me morally and ethically superior to you and
"Kalkidas." Doesn't that bother you?
Richard Clayton
Depends on your definition of "moral," really. Most cults indoctrinate
their members with the notion that unquestioning obedience to their
leaders is the highest morality. To Kalkidas, criticizing the ISKCON
bosses is a far more grievous sin than violating the principles of satya
and daya.
--
[The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
Richard Clayton
"I keep six honest serving men (they taught me all I knew); their names
are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who." � Rudyard Kipling
Richard Clayton
DIG has repeatedly stated he would prefer such requests for moderation
be sent to him by email, not posted publicly.
Kalkidas
"Richard Clayton" <richZIG.e....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:htmgg7$j75$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
[snip]
> Depends on your definition of "moral," really. Most cults indoctrinate
> their members with the notion that unquestioning obedience to their
> leaders is the highest morality. To Kalkidas, criticizing the ISKCON
> bosses is a far more grievous sin than violating the principles of satya
> and daya.
Speck of blood in a piece of corn in the contents of the diaper of the
assistant troll.
Caranx latus
> "Richard Clayton" <richZIG.e.clayZIG...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Hmm... Guess you better get back to chanting, Kalk. That consciousness
of yours is looking *very* soiled.
Kalkidas
"Caranx latus" <kar...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Decaying red cell in a speck of blood in a piece of corn in the contents of
aganunitsi
...
> > Depends on your definition of "moral," really. Most cults indoctrinate
> > their members with the notion that unquestioning obedience to their
> > leaders is the highest morality. To Kalkidas, criticizing the ISKCON
> > bosses is a far more grievous sin than violating the principles of satya
> > and daya.
>
> Speck of blood in a piece of corn in the contents of the diaper of the
> assistant troll.
Only non-trolls care about being labeled a troll. The trolls love it.
It's like calling a pimp a pimp - "No SHIT I'm a pimp. I am THE Pimp."
Caranx latus
Judging from your behaviour in this life, Kalk, it looks to me like
you''re striving to have your next life as a moron. I have no comment
on whether that would be redundant or not.
Richard Clayton
Alas, I have no riposte for your well-reasoned and eloquent response.
Paul J Gans
As a mailing list manager myself, I push the same policy. One
gets far better cooperation via private conversation than one
does by public embarrassment.
--
--- Paul J. Gans
Richard Clayton
*Every* mailing list manager and forum moderator I know pushes the same
policy. Making a spectacle just complicates the issue.
Greg G.
That's not how Karma works. He would have to be virtuous in this life
to move up to the level of moron in the next life.
Mark Isaak
That *is* his chanting. He is showing us, by his own example, that his
religion is despicable. We should all be grateful to him for that.
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume
Walter Bushell
Paul J Gans <gan...@panix.com> wrote:
> >DIG has repeatedly stated he would prefer such requests for moderation
> >be sent to him by email, not posted publicly.
>
> As a mailing list manager myself, I push the same policy. One
> gets far better cooperation via private conversation than one
> does by public embarrassment.
Request for moderation. I have always found DIG to be quite moderate.
--
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
Eric Root
> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>
> news:6sdjv51r28ne71p2j...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:43:17 -0700, "Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub> wrote in
> > talk.origins:
>
> >>"chris thompson" <chris.linthomp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:b9463f27-1c35-4e5e...@o15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On May 23, 2:47 pm, "Kalkidas" <e...@joes.pub> wrote:
> >>>> "Fredric L. Rice" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in
>
> >>>> >http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rule-republican-leade...
>
> >>>> > Bill Maher, New Rule: The Republican Leadership in America
> >>>> > Must Produce Their Birth Certificates
>
> >>>> > An amusing and accurate summation of the insanity of politicians
> >>>> > pandering
> >>>> > to theofascist traitors, Creationists, et al. while adult countries
> >>>> > refrain
> >>>> > from letting the screaming children get their way.
>
> >>>> Troll.
>
> >>> it so?
>
> >>> Do you think that just because someone posts something you do not like
> >>> makes that person a troll?
>
> >>> It is an idiotic response. It is a flight from reality. It is an
> >>> obviously desperate attempt to remake reality in the form you wish it
> >>> to be, rather than what it is.
>
> >>Assistant troll.
>
> > Says someone who is proudly disengaged from reality.
>
> Assistant troll's diaper.
Now you are just free associating? Or is that the name of a band?