Agile vs. waterfall is another one we should clearly stand against: it's just the marketing of a false dichotomy, but it is as wrong and a damage as it can be because it promotes massive misconceptions not only about the software process but about the very state of the art.
Rather than setting up primary schools on the art of tying shoelaces, we'd better focus on getting the basics straight.
-LV
Rather than setting up primary schools on the art of tying shoelaces, we'd better focus on getting the basics straight.
Get a book on SE, will you? IOW, it is clear what the basics are to those who know the basics, the point was about commitment and professional integrity.
In fact, the topic here specifically was "Agile vs. Waterfall, the big scum". Any comments young lad?
Okay, let's stop this before it gets further into nonsense.
This list is civil and not a place to play 'look who is bigger'
I'm also curious about what LV considers 'the basics,' but it seems like the answer was 'what is in a software engineering book.' Let's leave it at that.
-Corey
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On Friday, 9 November 2012 13:36:13 UTC, Corey Haines wrote:> The topic of "agilty vs waterfall" is probably best done on an actual agile mailing list. This is the software craftsmanship list. You'll probably get a better reception and more response to that question on an agile list, such as the XP or Scrum list.IMHO, that is just ridiculous and rather testifies how this group too has been hijected. After all, aren't I entitled to my opinion for how "out of line" it could be?
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Have you written this up as a blog? I'm coaching at a company and
everyone involved would greatly benefit by reading something like
this. I know there's similar content out there, and I preach these
concepts daily, but I think you've really captured it here.
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No, but if it is on the web, written by someone else, then it doesn't look like the coach just made that crap up.With a little verification It would have to be a conspiracy, or an occupational neurosis. :-)Not to mention that sometimes other people express themselves in different ways, and that helps reach people who don't learn exactly the way we teach. This is the more important of the two effects of having it written up somewhere.In a moment of desperation, you can tell me something deeply true and intelligent-sounding and I can give blogging it a shot.