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wolfbat359
Mar 24, 2017, 10:57:59 AM3/24/17
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At the plants in the South, with little union representation, people are worked with impossible goals. unsafe conditions and little safety conditions!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
excerpt:
The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
excerpt:
The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
rumpelstiltskin
Mar 24, 2017, 11:33:16 AM3/24/17
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You must be one o' them hippies that want to tie
wealth-creating businessmen's hands so they can't
make an honest billion.
wolfbat359
Mar 24, 2017, 12:10:25 PM3/24/17
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https://www.democracynow.org/2017/3/23/jane_mayer_on_robert_mercer_the
excerpt:
We look at Robert Mercer, the man who is said to have out-Koched the Koch brothers in the 2016 election. The secretive billionaire hedge-fund tycoon, along with his daughter Rebekah, is credited by many with playing an instrumental role in Donald Trump’s election. "The Mercers laid the groundwork for the Trump revolution," Trump’s chief strategist Stephen Bannon said. "Irrefutably, when you look at donors during the past four years, they have had the single biggest impact of anybody, including the Kochs." Before Bannon and Kellyanne Conway joined the Trump campaign, both worked closely with the Mercers. The Mercers bankrolled Bannon’s Breitbart News, as well as some of Bannon’s film projects. Conway ran a super PAC created by the Mercers to initially back the candidacy of Ted Cruz. While the Mercers have helped reshape the American political landscape, their work has all been done from the shadows. To talk more about the Mercers, we speak with Jane Mayer, staff writer at The New Yorker. Her latest piece is headlined "The Reclusive Hedge-Fund Tycoon Behind the Trump Presidency: How Robert Mercer exploited America’s populist insurgency." She is also author of "Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right," which just came out in paperback.
rumpelstiltskin
Mar 24, 2017, 12:47:00 PM3/24/17
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:10:24 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
but I guess from your response that it wasn't.
<wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:33:16 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
>> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >At the plants in the South, with little union representation, people are worked with impossible goals. unsafe conditions and little safety conditions!
>> >
>> >
>> >https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
>> >
>> >Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
>> >
>> >The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
>> >
>> >
>> >excerpt:
>> >
>> >The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
>> >
>> >Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
>> >
>> >Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
>>
>>
>> Traitor. You got something against "free enterprise"?
>> You must be one o' them hippies that want to tie
>> wealth-creating businessmen's hands so they can't
>> make an honest billion.
>
>But they are after such as you right now! The despise you even if you support them! They want to take all government services from you. They despise those who take such as social security and want to eliminate it! Is good reading of lisening to!:
Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was being sarcastic,
>On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:33:16 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
>> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >At the plants in the South, with little union representation, people are worked with impossible goals. unsafe conditions and little safety conditions!
>> >
>> >
>> >https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
>> >
>> >Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
>> >
>> >The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
>> >
>> >
>> >excerpt:
>> >
>> >The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
>> >
>> >Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
>> >
>> >Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
>>
>>
>> Traitor. You got something against "free enterprise"?
>> You must be one o' them hippies that want to tie
>> wealth-creating businessmen's hands so they can't
>> make an honest billion.
>
>But they are after such as you right now! The despise you even if you support them! They want to take all government services from you. They despise those who take such as social security and want to eliminate it! Is good reading of lisening to!:
but I guess from your response that it wasn't.
me
Mar 24, 2017, 1:00:46 PM3/24/17
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I'll take one wealth creating busineman over a million wealth destroying entitlement rentiers any day. Remember those famous words from your countrywoman Margaret Thatcher. "The problem with socialism..."
wolfbat359
Mar 24, 2017, 1:39:20 PM3/24/17
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On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 10:47:00 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:10:24 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:33:16 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
> >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
> >> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >At the plants in the South, with little union representation, people are worked with impossible goals. unsafe conditions and little safety conditions!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
> >> >
> >> >Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
> >> >
> >> >The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >excerpt:
> >> >
> >> >The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
> >> >
> >> >Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
> >> >
> >> >Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
> >>
> >>
> >> Traitor. You got something against "free enterprise"?
> >> You must be one o' them hippies that want to tie
> >> wealth-creating businessmen's hands so they can't
> >> make an honest billion.
> >
> >But they are after such as you right now! The despise you even if you support them! They want to take all government services from you. They despise those who take such as social security and want to eliminate it! Is good reading of lisening to!:
>
>
> Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was being sarcastic,
> but I guess from your response that it wasn't.
But to the contrary, I was being sarcastic also! The Democracy mnow piece was good also!
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:10:24 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:33:16 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
> >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
> >> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >At the plants in the South, with little union representation, people are worked with impossible goals. unsafe conditions and little safety conditions!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
> >> >
> >> >Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
> >> >
> >> >The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >excerpt:
> >> >
> >> >The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
> >> >
> >> >Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
> >> >
> >> >Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
> >>
> >>
> >> Traitor. You got something against "free enterprise"?
> >> You must be one o' them hippies that want to tie
> >> wealth-creating businessmen's hands so they can't
> >> make an honest billion.
> >
> >But they are after such as you right now! The despise you even if you support them! They want to take all government services from you. They despise those who take such as social security and want to eliminate it! Is good reading of lisening to!:
>
>
> Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was being sarcastic,
> but I guess from your response that it wasn't.
mg
Mar 24, 2017, 3:38:51 PM3/24/17
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unions, but no one seems to care very much about unions, anymore,
and that probably includes most people on this newsgroup and Obama
and HIllary. Is that why Clinton lost Michigan, Pennsylvania, and
Wisconsin, by the way? I think it probably is.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/09/how-clinton-lost-blue-wall-states-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin/93572020/
So why didn't more people vote for Bernie Sanders?
rumpelstiltskin
Mar 24, 2017, 5:17:42 PM3/24/17
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:39:17 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
when I thought I was being sarcastic in the past, so I'm on guard
that I might be misunderstood.
I am, however, being serious, not sarcastic, when I say that
I wouldn't be dismayed if Marine LePen won the French
election, even on the first ballot.
I wasn't dismayed when Trump won in the US either, because
US politics has been so uninspiringly dreary lately that, what the
hey, we might as well at least have a farce we can enjoy, and
that's what we're getting!
I didn't catch that Democracy Now piece, and I usually don't
like to watch long pieces on the computer, but I do watch
Democracy Now often on TV when I catch it.
I'm generally lying in bed when I watch TV though, where I
tend to fall asleep a lot.
<wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 10:47:00 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:10:24 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
>> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:33:16 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
>> >> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >At the plants in the South, with little union representation, people are worked with impossible goals. unsafe conditions and little safety conditions!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
>> >> >
>> >> >Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
>> >> >
>> >> >The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >excerpt:
>> >> >
>> >> >The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
>> >> >
>> >> >Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
>> >> >
>> >> >Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Traitor. You got something against "free enterprise"?
>> >> You must be one o' them hippies that want to tie
>> >> wealth-creating businessmen's hands so they can't
>> >> make an honest billion.
>> >
>> >But they are after such as you right now! The despise you even if you support them! They want to take all government services from you. They despise those who take such as social security and want to eliminate it! Is good reading of lisening to!:
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was being sarca*stic,
>On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 10:47:00 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:10:24 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
>> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 9:33:16 AM UTC-6, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
>> >> <wolfb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >At the plants in the South, with little union representation, people are worked with impossible goals. unsafe conditions and little safety conditions!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
>> >> >
>> >> >Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
>> >> >
>> >> >The South’s manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >excerpt:
>> >> >
>> >> >The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.
>> >> >
>> >> >Last year a 33-year-old maintenance worker was engulfed in flames at Nakanishi Manufacturing Corp.’s bearing plant in Winterville, Ga.—after four previous fires in the factory’s dust-collection system. OSHA levied a $145,000 fine on the Japanese company, which supplies parts to Toyota Motor Co., for a willful violation for knowingly exposing workers to unguarded machinery. The plant’s maintenance chief told the OSHA investigator that he’d been too busy to write up proper lockout procedures for working on the system. The technician suffered third-degree burns all over his upper body.
>> >> >
>> >> >Phyllis Taylor, 53, scorched her hand inside an industrial oven last year at the HP Pelzer Automotive Systems Inc. insulation plant in Thomson, Ga., while baking foam rubber linings for BMW hoods. The oven had been down for repairs earlier that day, and “there was always pressure to catch up,” Taylor says. She slipped on a puddle of oil at her feet, and as she instinctively grabbed the oven in front of her, the door slammed down on her hand. She’d been telling her supervisor for weeks about the oil leak. “They don’t pay you no mind; they just want you to work,” says Taylor, who had skin graft surgery but still can’t close her dominant hand. The plant’s maintenance manager told OSHA, “The focus of this plant is production at all costs.” OSHA fined HP Pelzer $705,000 for 12 “repeat” safety violations. ....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Traitor. You got something against "free enterprise"?
>> >> You must be one o' them hippies that want to tie
>> >> wealth-creating businessmen's hands so they can't
>> >> make an honest billion.
>> >
>> >But they are after such as you right now! The despise you even if you support them! They want to take all government services from you. They despise those who take such as social security and want to eliminate it! Is good reading of lisening to!:
>>
>>
>> but I guess from your response that it wasn't.
>
>But to the contrary, I was being sarcastic also! The Democracy mnow piece was good also!
Oh! General confusion. I've often been taken for being serious
>
>But to the contrary, I was being sarcastic also! The Democracy mnow piece was good also!
when I thought I was being sarcastic in the past, so I'm on guard
that I might be misunderstood.
I am, however, being serious, not sarcastic, when I say that
I wouldn't be dismayed if Marine LePen won the French
election, even on the first ballot.
I wasn't dismayed when Trump won in the US either, because
US politics has been so uninspiringly dreary lately that, what the
hey, we might as well at least have a farce we can enjoy, and
that's what we're getting!
I didn't catch that Democracy Now piece, and I usually don't
like to watch long pieces on the computer, but I do watch
Democracy Now often on TV when I catch it.
I'm generally lying in bed when I watch TV though, where I
tend to fall asleep a lot.
rumpelstiltskin
Mar 24, 2017, 5:17:43 PM3/24/17
to
glass front door. I set $100 to his campaign three
times, more than I've ever sent to a campaign before.
Even though he lost, I still regard it as money well
spent.
mg
Mar 24, 2017, 5:23:22 PM3/24/17
to
him donations. I never did send him any money and still feel guilty
about it.
wolfbat359
Mar 24, 2017, 5:35:43 PM3/24/17
to
rumpelstiltskin
Mar 25, 2017, 12:57:44 AM3/25/17
to
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 14:35:42 -0700 (PDT), wolfbat359
I have a Hillary T-shirt from her 2008 campaign, but I don't
wear hats (even though I have a bald spot now), and I don't
tote enough stuff that it won't all fit in my pants pockets,
unless I'm returning from shopping.
I had a Dennis Peron for governor T-shirt too, but when
my son and I were at Dennis' house last fall, he mentioned
that of all the T-shirts he'd produced, he didn't have a
single one left from his campaign for governor and he
really regretted that. I remembered I had one, so
considering all the good times (and good marijuana) I've
enjoyed at his house in the wild old days, I was pleased as
punch to locate it and bring it over to him, and Dennis was
pleased as punch to receive it. It was almost in "new"
condition, since I'd only worn it while he was running for
governor. Dennis is just two months younger than me
though, and he says that he feels pretty irrelevant these
days, because the kids are only interested in movement
leaders about their own age. That's the cruelty of "time".
He's had a stroke, and his speech is slurred now, so he
couldn't be a public speaker anymore anyway.
http://tinyurl.com/krwhovo
While my son was here, I was fretting that I'd lost one
of my safe-deposit box keys, since it would entail
"significant expense" if both keys weren't returned when
the box was closed out. My son said not to worry about
it because it's not like me to lose stuff like that. Shortly
after he left, a light bulb went on and I wondered if I'd
given one copy to the girls downstairs for safe-keeping.
Sarah came back with a huge bunch of keys - I hadn't
realized how many times I'd given them duplicates, and
lo and behold, the missing safe-deposit box key was
among them! What a relief. I didn't know what
"significant expense" meant, but considering the
probable expense of re-keying a safe deposit box, I
had visions it could be $1,000.
wear hats (even though I have a bald spot now), and I don't
tote enough stuff that it won't all fit in my pants pockets,
unless I'm returning from shopping.
I had a Dennis Peron for governor T-shirt too, but when
my son and I were at Dennis' house last fall, he mentioned
that of all the T-shirts he'd produced, he didn't have a
single one left from his campaign for governor and he
really regretted that. I remembered I had one, so
considering all the good times (and good marijuana) I've
enjoyed at his house in the wild old days, I was pleased as
punch to locate it and bring it over to him, and Dennis was
pleased as punch to receive it. It was almost in "new"
condition, since I'd only worn it while he was running for
governor. Dennis is just two months younger than me
though, and he says that he feels pretty irrelevant these
days, because the kids are only interested in movement
leaders about their own age. That's the cruelty of "time".
He's had a stroke, and his speech is slurred now, so he
couldn't be a public speaker anymore anyway.
http://tinyurl.com/krwhovo
While my son was here, I was fretting that I'd lost one
of my safe-deposit box keys, since it would entail
"significant expense" if both keys weren't returned when
the box was closed out. My son said not to worry about
it because it's not like me to lose stuff like that. Shortly
after he left, a light bulb went on and I wondered if I'd
given one copy to the girls downstairs for safe-keeping.
Sarah came back with a huge bunch of keys - I hadn't
realized how many times I'd given them duplicates, and
lo and behold, the missing safe-deposit box key was
among them! What a relief. I didn't know what
"significant expense" meant, but considering the
probable expense of re-keying a safe deposit box, I
had visions it could be $1,000.
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