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A Possible Additional descent from King James V of Scotland for Robert1 Traill of Portsmouth, New Hampshire

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ravinma...@yahoo.com

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In a NEXUS column from 1992, Gary Boyd Roberts presented the following James V descent for the Scotsman Robert1 Traill who settled in New Hampshire in the 18th century (this same line has also appeared in editions of _The Royal Descents of 500 [600] Immigrants_ by Roberts):


James V, King of Scots

(illegitimate) Robert Stewart, Earl of Orkney = Jean Kennedy

(illegitimate) James Stewart of Graemsay = __________

Margaret Stewart = Francis Moodie/ Mudie of Breckness

Barbara Moodie = Patrick Balfour

George Balfour = Marjorie Baikie

Barbara Balfour = William Traill

William Traill = Isabel Fea

Robert Traill (post 1715-1785), of N. H.

http://www.americanancestors.org/Browse/articles?searchby=author&subquery=Gary%20Boyd%20Roberts&id=1066

I would like to suggest that the Moodie or Mudie family had their own separate line of descent from King James V through their ancestress Christian Stewart, wife of Adam Mudie of Breckness.

Barbara Mudie, wife of Patrick Balfour of Gairth and Pharay, is shown on p. 23 of Ruvigny's _Moodie Book: Being an Account of the Families of Melsetter, Muir, Cocklaw ..._, placed immediately above at least three illegitimate sons of her father Francis Mudie.

https://books.google.com/books?id=4Q0XAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA23&dq=%22patrick+balfour+of+gairth%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0t8zyzpvNAhXH4SYKHYeiD4wQ6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=%22patrick%20balfour%20of%20gairth%22&f=false

Tracing backwards a few pages, we encounter the highly chequered career of her father, Francis Mudie, stated variously to be "too great a libertine ... [who] kept more concubines than was convenient, for which Bishop Graham of Orkney did summon him ..." and "'wanton Francis,' from the number of his children." In addition to the three illegitimate children of Francis, listed below Barbara, "James Mudie, who was in Sanday with his son, Edward in 1657, is also sometimes said to have been a natural son of this Francis."

Barbara, however, was certainly legitimate, and Ruvigny clearly states that Francis Mudie of Breckness married "First [? his cousin], Margaret, daughter of James Stewart of Graemsay," and, second, in 1626, to Marion Tulloch, the widow Sinclair.

The reason for Ruvigny's statement about Margaret Stewart as cousin, as well as wife, of Francis occurs on p. 15, in the discussion of Francis' father Adam Mudie, rector of Walls and Flotta, who is stated by Ruvigny to have married "Christian Stewart, probably a sister of James Stewart of Graemsay, and a natural daughter of Robert (Stewart), first Earl of Orkney." Adam, though a minister of some sort, and son of "Mr." William Mudie, the rector of Breckness, was not himself entitled to the "MR.," not having his university degree.

Several years back, I thought I had found clear proof that Adam Mudie's wife was Grizel Stewart, not Christian Stewart. A grant from 1564 from Robert Stewart, Earl of Orkney, seemed to necessitate this correction of names (J. Storer Clouston, _Records of the Earldom of Orkney, 1299-1615_, p. 271):

"Robert Stewart, feuar, etc., grants to Mr. William Mudy of Breknes for his life, and to Adam Mudye his eldest lawful son and Grizel Stewart, daughter of the said Robert Stewart, apparent spouse to the said Adam, and the survivor of them in conjunct fee ... [certain lands].

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.319510022429312;view=1up;seq=377

Notice that Grizel is called the "apparent spouse" to Adam Mudy, indicating that the marriage had not yet happened at this time (it seems they were children who were intended for each other). In another wrinkle, the standard scholarly biography of Earl Robert indicates that his daughter Grizel (? another Grizel) married around 1577 to Hugh Sinclair of Strome, citing a tack dated July 1577 "by Robert [Stewart] to Grizel, his illegitimate daughter, and Hugh Sinclair of Strome her prospective spouse. ..."

https://books.google.com/books?id=l5RnAAAAMAAJ&q=%22grizel+stewart%22+sinclair&dq=%22grizel+stewart%22+sinclair&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRnpqf2fXMAhUIgj4KHTieAxMQ6AEIMzAE

While it is possible that there were two illegitimate daughters of Robert called "Grizel," three facts make it probable that the Adam Mudie-GRIZEL Stewart union did not occur, and that the same Grizel in the 1564 document later married Hugh Sinclair around 1577: the word "apparent spouse" in the 1564 document; the knowledge that Adam Mudie had a wife called Christine or Christiane Stewart in documents from 1598 and 1609; and the statement in _The Scots Peerage_, by Balfour-Paul, that one of Robert of Orkney's illegitimate daughters was a Grizel, who married by 1591 to "Hugh Sinclair of Brugh."

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015008828546;view=1up;seq=597

The list of bastards in Balfour-Paul, to which we have just turned, mentions, following Grizel, wife of Hugh Sinclair, another illegitimate sister "Christian [Stewart], married to John Mouat of Hougaland in Shetland, and, as his widow, was living, and in feud with her brother-in-law, in 1634" (citing _Reg.Mag.Sig._).

Meanwhile, it is clear from two contemporary documents, that Adam Mudie of Breckness also had a wife Christine, Christian, or Christiane Stewart, NOT Grizel Stewart:

Snelsetter (Snaillsetter), Walls, 11 April 1598

Instrument of sasine in favour of Patrick, earl of Orkney, following upon charter, dated at Kirkwall, 9 March 1597-8, by Adam Mudie of Breckness and Cristine Stewart, his spouse, of the house and manor place of Snelsetter (Snailsetter), 'with the gairding thairof, barnis, byris, cornyairds, peatrowmes', etc., in the isle of Walls (Wais). David King, bailie in that part. Magnus Inkster (Inksetter) in Orphir, procurator for the said earl.

Witnesses to the charter: Malcolm Groat (Grote) of Tankerness, Edward Scollay of Strynie, Henry Sinclair of Tuquoy (Towquoy), and Thomas Auchinleck (Auchinlek), notary public, with Mr Andrew Dishington (Dischingtoun) and James Rattray (Rattrey) also subscribing as witnesses.

Witnesses to the sasine: Thomas Yule in Walls (Wais), Magnus Chalmer in Seatter (Setter) in Wais, Henry Fidlar in Wais, Robert Scollay (Skollaw), and Alexander Bruce and Thomas Auchinlek, conotaries.

NRS NP1/36, ff. 63r-64v
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Edinburgh, [between 1 and 10 January 1609]

Discharge by William Carmichael, merchant, citizen in Kirkwall, to James Stewart of Gramsay, for £40, in name and behalf of Cristiane Stewart, relict of the deceased Adam Mudie of Braknes, and Francis Mudie, her son, for 13 meills and 2 settings malt, good and sufficient stuff, fresh and merchant ware, contained in obligation, dated 30 December 1602 (reg. in books of council on 10 March 1603). William consents that Cristiane and Francis be relaxed from the process of horning.
Witnesses: Mr William Henderson, William Bannatyne of Gairsay, and John Makkie, burgess of Edinburgh, writer hereof.

NRS, RD11, reg. 10 January 1609.

(I located both of these documents in the following internet discussion: http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?t=109316 .)

In the first, she is called Cristine and, in the second, Christiane Stewart. Neither reference states any relationship to Robert, Earl of Orkney, though the second one shows her dealing with Robert's illegitimate son, James Stewart of Graemsay (whose daughter her son Francis was to marry).

On the other hand, Christian Stewart who married John Mowat is clearly stated at least twice to have been a natural, or illegitimate, daughter of Robert Stewart, Earl of Orkney:

Robert S. Barclay, ed., _The Court Books of Orkney and Shetland 1614-1615_ pp. 113-116, prints a 1615 "charter of confirmation to the late Andro Mowat, father of the plaintiff [John Mowat], of most of his lands in Yetland; the instrument of sasine following the confirmation; the marriage contract between the late Robert, earl of Orkney, for himself and his natural daughter Christiane Stewart, now spouse of the plaintiff, on the one part, and the late Andro Mowat and the plaintiff, on the other part; the charter of alienation made by the late Andro to the plaintiff, his son, whereby Andro granted to his son John, the plaintiff, all his lands in the marriage contract; etc."

Furthermore, _The Register of the Privy Council of Scotland_ 5:219-220, prints Christian's own petition from ca. 1634, identifying her as "Christian Stewart, widow of John Mowat of Huguland and daughter of the deceased Robert, Earl of Orkney," as well as plainly stating her brother-in-law Mr. Gilbert Mowat had attacked her "'without respect to her age and parentage [and] patt violent hands in her person, gave her manie bauche straikes in diverse parts of her bodie, strake her to the ground where she being lying swowning in pitifull maner the saids persons verie barbarouslie tred and tramped upon her with thair feit and thereafter violentlie reft frome her servants the dewteis quhilks they had receaved frome her tennents.’"

The _Court Books of Orkney_ reference clearly implies the marriage contract of John Mowat-Christian Stewart was made before the death of Robert, Earl of Orkney, which occurred in 1593. There is also firm evidence as early as 1597 that John Mowat's wife was one Christian Stewart at that time:

_Shetland Documents 1580-1611_, pg 117-8, item 264:

264. Skea, 21 November 1597 Disposition by Andro Mowatt of Howgoland; with consent of Johne Mowatt; his eldest son and apparent heir; and of Cristian Stewartt; spouse of Johne, to James Mowatt and his heirs male; whom failing to Gilbertt Mowatt and his heirs male; whom failing to the said Johne Mowatt and his heirs; .... The disposition is in fulfilment of a contract between Andro; on the one part, and Johne and Cristiane; his spouse; on the other part, dated 20 and 21 November 1597 at Collafirth and Skea. Precept of sasine. Witnesses: Barrold Mowat, Donald Williamson; Magnus Tullo; Magnus Cogill; Andro Mowat; Archibald Sinclair; and William Fermour, notary public; with divers others. Cristiane Stewartt subscribes with her hand held at the pen. ...

See also: http://mowatfamilyhistory.ca/ps02/ps02_255.htm .

Thus, John Mowat was married to a woman identified as Christian, daughter of Robert Stewart, Earl of Orkney, in the precise period during which we find "Cristine/ Christiane Stewart, spouse of Adam Mudie"; therefore, they could not be the same Christian Stewart, though Robert, Earl of Orkney, might have had two illegitimate daughters named Christian.

Seeing, however, that Adam Mudie's spouse is never identified in contemporary documents specifically as "daughter of the Earl of Orkney," I propose she might have been a daughter of Robert of Orkney's brother Lord John Stewart. Lord John is covered in the [new] _Complete Peerage_, 4: 82A, sub "DARNLEY":

John Stewart, illegit. s. of KING James V, by Catherine, da. of Sir John Carmichael, was b. about 1532, and usually called Lord John till he was cr. a peer; Commendator of the Priory of Coldingham 1541. He obtained letters of legitimation under the Great Seal 7 Feb. 1550/1. He joined the Reformers in 1560. Shortly after he had a grant of the forfeited lands of Matthew (Stewart), Earl of Lennos [S.], and was cr., between 21 Jan. 1561/2 and 7 Feb. 1562/3, LORD DARNLEY [S.]. As "Dominus Dernlie" he had a grant of lands 22 June 1563. He m., 11 Jan. 1561/2, at Crichton Castle, Jean, sister and ultimately h. of her br. James, 4th Earl of Bothwell, da. of Patrick (Hepburn), 3rd Earl of Bothwell [S.], by Agnes, da. of Henry, 3rd Lord Sinclair [S]. He d. Oct. or Nov. 1563, at Inverness. His widow m., betwen 10 Dec. 1565 and 16 Jan. 1566/7, John Sinclair, Master of Caithness, who d. v.p. Sep. 1575. She m., 3rdly, Archibald Douglas, Rector of Douglas, a Senator of the College of Justice, who was outlawed 1581.

Lord John Stewart and his wife, Jean Hepburn, were the parents of the infamous Francis Stewart, 5th Earl of Bothwell, whose title came from his maternal ancestors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Stewart,_5th_Earl_of_Bothwell
Page 20 of Amy Juhala, _The Household and Court of King James VI of Scotland, 1567-1603_ discusses the rockers chosen to tend the cradle of the infant James VI (James I of England) in 1567: "In order to provide additional functions necessary for any infant, the king [James VI] was assigned, at this date, five rockers who would have served alternating terms. It appears that all five young women were chosen from the nobility, and included Christiane Stewart, daughter of the late Lord Coldingham and sister of the future Earl Bothwell."

https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/1842/6909/1/495835.pdf

See also this list of the king's "rockers," from the original records of the king's household:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101072876251;view=1up;seq=140

Robert, Earl of Orkney, appears to have made Orkney matches for at least two daughters of another brother, Lord Adam Stewart (i.e., Mary Stewart, who married John Sinclair of Tohop/ Tolhop/ Toab, and Barbara Stewart, who married Henry or Hugh Halcro).

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2012-07/1341615443

I think it is also quite possible that he (Robert) may have arranged the marriage of this Christiane, daughter of Lord John Stewart, to Adam Mudie. Mr. Archibald Douglas, the last husband of Jean Hepburn, Lord John's widow, was a disgraceful person involved in many court intrigues and in and out of trouble with the law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Douglas,_Parson_of_Douglas

Thus he may not have been in a position to provide for his wife's daughter. It is very possible, maybe indeed PROBABLE, that Christian Stewart was not even daughter of Jean Hepburn, wife of Archibald Douglas, but an illegitimate child of Lord John, who is known to have fathered an illegitimate son Hercules Stewart, called in several places a "natural" or "base" brother to the Earl of Bothwell:

https://books.google.com/books?id=eeVBAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA604&dq=%22hercules+stewart%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiknqKYyZnNAhUB5CYKHSKiBFcQ6AEIQTAF#v=onepage&q=%22hercules%20stewart%22&f=false

Unless she was a very young child when made the King's "rocker" in 1567, it is perhaps doubtful that this daughter Christian was the child of Jean Hepburn (married 1561/2), ... although maybe someone can weigh in on the possibility that the station of "rocker" was merely honorary, and intended as a source of monetary support, and, as such, could have gone to a young child who was the King's near kinswoman.

I think it is very possible that Christian Stewart's uncle, Earl Robert, might have stepped into this chaotic situation to arrange her marriage to Adam Mudie, a minister in Orkney whom he had earlier tried to match with his own daughter Grizel Stewart.

Note that Christian Stewart, wife of Adam Mudie, was the mother of a son called FRANCIS, quite possibly in honor of her brother (? half-brother) Francis Stewart, 5th Earl of Bothwell. Perhaps knowledge that he was closely allied to the Earl of Bothwell fed the narcissistic sense of importance which spurred Francis Mudie to keep "an inconvenient number of concubines" on Orkney and otherwise flout convention.

The "new" James V line for the Traills of New Hampshire would be, in this reconstruction:

James V, King of Scots

(illegitimate) Lord John Stewart, Lord Darnley = Jean Kennedy

(prob. illegitimate) Christian Stewart = Adam Mudie, rector of Walls and Flotta

Francis Moodie/ Mudie of Breckness = Margaret Stewart of Graemsay,

etc.

Francis Mudie and Margaret Stewart would have been 1st cousins had Christian Stewart been daughter of the Earl of Orkney, but only 2nd cousins if she were daughter of Lord John Stewart. Have many Scottish 1st-cousin marriages been found in the early modern period? My own 18th-20th century paternal ancestors in the American South, mainly of Scottish descent, sometimes married cousins ... but no one closer than a 2nd-cousin-once-removed.

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The proposed new line SHOULD read:

James V, King of Scots

Lord John Stewart, Commendator of Coldingham & Lord Darnley = Jean Hepburn

(probably illegitimate) Christian Stewart = Adam Mudie

Francis Mudie of Breckness = Margaret Stewart of Graemsay, etc.

Lord John Stewart's wife was Jean HEPBURN, Jean Kennedy being wife of his brother Robert Stewart, Earl of Orkney.

I notice that the list of Robert of Orkney's lawful children in Balfour Paul's _SP_ includes the same Barbara Stewart, wife of Halcro, named above as a daughter of Lord Adam Stewart.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015008828546;view=1up;seq=596

Barbara was more likely a daughter of Adam, not Robert, as confirmed in the NEHGR, 165 (2011): 297, from "Additions and Corrections" to a previous article:

TRAILL. "Identification of Miss Bell Traill of Kirkwall, Orkney, as Isabella (Traill) Tate of Boston, Massachusetts, with a Royal Descent," by Ralph E. Wadleigh, Jr., 164 (2010): 145-52, 297. The second generation of the royal descent on p. 151 needs to be revised, as pointed out by Douglas Richardson. Barbara Stewart, wife of Henry Halcro, was the daughter of Lord Adam Stewart (died in Orkney 20 June 1575), an illegitimate son of James V, possibly by Helenor Stewart (Peter D. Anderson, _Robert Stewart, Earl of Orkney, Lord of Shetland, 1533-1593_ [Edinburgh: John Donald Publishers, 1982], 80, 104, 131-32, 156-58). The wife of Lord Adam Stewart (and presumably mother of Barbara) was Janet Ruthven (Sir James Balfour Paul, _The Scots Peerage_, 9 vols. [Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-14], 4:101).

The original article which this blurb corrects concerned another Traill line to New England.

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Sir Francis Stewart (later 5th Earl of Bothwell), the legitimate son of Lord John Stewart, aka Lord Darnley, is mentioned at least twice as a reversionary heir of one of more children of Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney, in vol. 1 of _Diplomatarium Orcadense Et Hialtlandense_ (pp. 173, 188):

https://books.google.com/books?id=AhchAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA235&dq=1615+Orkney+walls&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgxvm2op7NAhVCeCYKHevfCjM4ChDoAQgoMAI#v=onepage&q=francis&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=AhchAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA235&dq=1615+Orkney+walls&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgxvm2op7NAhVCeCYKHevfCjM4ChDoAQgoMAI#v=onepage&q=francis&f=false

Bronwen Edwards

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Have many Scottish 1st-cousin marriages been found in the early modern period? My own 18th-20th century paternal ancestors in the American South, mainly of Scottish descent, sometimes married cousins ... but no one closer than a 2nd-cousin-once-removed.

I have a weird roundabout marriage that took place in Port Patrick involving first cousins. The marriage took place in 1811 between two Anglo-Irish people both from well-to-do families. The reason given for the location, as it was explained to me, was because the groom was "still in chancery" (b. 1791). His father had died at the age of 25 in a fox hunting accident in 1793. The groom was Hugh Massey Barrett of Castle Blake near Clonmel in Tipperary, son of Quintin Barrett and Amy Massy of Duntrileague, daughter of Hugh, the 1st Baron Massy. The bride was Caroline Butler (b. 1794), daughter of William Butler of Drom, Knockra & Wilford, and Caroline Massy, full sister of Amy Massy, above. Through her father, Caroline Butler was related to the Dunboyne, Ormond & Mountgarret Butler families. Nothing was passed down to me about their close kinship being part of the reason for wedding in Port Patrick and, of course, they were from Ireland, so this may not be the kind of example you are looking for.

Brad Verity

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On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 1:30:15 PM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Sir Francis Stewart (later 5th Earl of Bothwell), the legitimate son of Lord John Stewart, aka Lord Darnley, is mentioned at least twice as a reversionary heir of one of more children of Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney, in vol. 1 of _Diplomatarium Orcadense Et Hialtlandense_ (pp. 173, 188):

Dear John,

Excellent research job - my hat off to you. The illegitimate sons of James V, and their children, are not easy trees to assemble, and I'm impressed with your level of knowledge and compilation of sources. I ended up on this line last year when I traced the ancestry of a spouse of a late-Victorian British officer, and so waded through Ruvigny's book on the Mudie family.

Your solution to the identity of Christian Stewart, wife of Adam Mudie - that she was Christian Stewart, daughter of Lord John Stewart, a rocker in the nursery of King James VI in 1567, whose further history is otherwise unknown - works perfectly chronologically. I find it preferable to Ruvigny's conjecture of her as sister to James Stewart of Graemsay solely because of her later association with some land holdings of that family.

Of course this is still far from proved. How strong is the possibility that Christian Stewart was not a daughter of any of the sons of James V? Were there other branches of the widespread Stewart family who were prominent in Orkney at this time, and who could claim Christian as one of them? If so, then the new question arises of what became of the Christian Stewart who rocked James VI in 1567?

I think you are well on the right track. I've adjusted my database, and my blogpost that looked into this line:
http://royaldescent.blogspot.ca/2015/05/james-v-descents-for-maj-charles-mt.html

Thank you for sharing your research.

Cheers, -----Brad

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Hi Brad,

As you note, there are still two other possibilities in the absence of proof of my suggestion:

(1) Christian Stewart, wife of Adam Mudie, was a member of a different Stewart family.

(2) Christian Stewart was in fact a daughter of the Earl of Orkney, older than her half-sister Christian Stewart, spouse of John Mouat/ Mowat. It is possible that the 1564 reference to Grizel Stewart, dau. of Robert, feuar, "apparent spouse" to Adam Mudie, is a mistake for CHRISTIAN Stewart.

I'm uneasy with the last solution for a number of reasons, including the fact that Adam Mudie did not have his first ecclesiastical appointment until 1577, thirteen years later. There is also the inclusion of the important words "apparent spouse" in the grant. It really does seem as those this was some kind of pre-contract between children or teenagers. Then, the fact that a Grizel, daughter of Robert, was mentioned as engaged to Hugh Sinclair in 1577, makes me feel that this could indeed be the same Grizel from 1564, and that her name was probably correctly stated in 1564.

Ruvigny doesn't actually state that Christian Stewart herself was associated with Graemsay properties, just that her son Francis was: "Francis, ... [Adam's] son and heir, is constantly associated and acting with the Stewarts of Graemsay, and appears to have possessed some interest in that property; and, as will be noted later, he married a daughter of the above-named James." Well, yes, there's THAT ...., i.e., his wife was a daughter of James Stewart of Graemsay, hence the possible interest in certain Graemsay properties.

While it's not probative in any way, we could note the extreme feud that existed between Patrick, Earl of Orkney (the legit. son of Robert) and Francis Mudie and his mother Christian Stewart.

While we don't have any proof that Christian the rocker, daughter of "Lord Coldingham" survived beyond 1567, if she was indeed "a young woman," as assumed by Amy Juhala, she could well be a youthful indiscretion (b. ca. 1550-55) of Lord Darnley (b. ca. 1532). And if she survived to become a "young woman" that means she had escaped the most lethal period of life in this era (early childhood).

I agree, she was almost certainly NOT a legitimate child of Lord Darnley and his wife Lady Jean Hepburn. I would say we probably have to assign two illegitimate children to Lord Darnley; (1) Hercules Stewart, executed for "treasonable practices" in 1595, known "base" brother to the Earl of Bothwell; (2) Christiane Stewart, made a rocker of the infant king in 1567.

The Bellenden charter of 1568, printed in _Diplomatarium Orcadense Et Hialtlandense_ 1:162-178, concerned property to go to Robert of Orkney and Jean Kennedy's legitimate daughter Mary Stewart. The structure of the reversionary clauses indicates that Robert of Orkney was well-aware of the illegitimate progeny of his father, King James V. On the decease of this Mary Stewart of Orkney, the property went to her brothers-german, Henry and Thomas Stewart, children of Robert, Earl of Orkney, by his spouse Jean Kennedy. Failing these two, it went to Robert and James Stewart, their base brothers, illegitimate sons of Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney. Failing these, to the Regent James Stewart, Earl of Moray, elder illegitmate brother of said Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney. Failing the Earl of Moray and heirs legitimate, then to Sir Francis Stewart, only a young child, "son and heir of the deceased John, Lord Darnley." Failing Sir Francis Stewart and heirs, then to Robert Stewart, "natural brother" to Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney (i.e., another illegitimate son of James V).

https://books.google.com/books?id=AhchAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA173&dq=%22Francis+Stewart+son+and+heir+of+the+deceased%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvo9axtq_NAhWIOCYKHXXmD8oQ6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=%22Francis%20Stewart%20son%20and%20heir%20of%20the%20deceased%22&f=false

The structure of the reversionary grants implies an intimate knowledge of the existence of these heirs and (probably) of their ages respective to one another. It seems Robert of Orkney would have known of Sir Francis Stewart's natural brother Hercules and natural sister Christiane, as well.

John

P.S. The reason for assigning Barbara Stewart, wife of Henry Halcro, to Lord Adam Stewart is that his tombstone in St. Magnus, Kirkwall, Orkney, is stated to have been built by "domina de Halcro," ie., this same Barbara:

https://books.google.com/books?id=l5RnAAAAMAAJ&q=%22henry+halcro%22+barbara&dq=%22henry+halcro%22+barbara&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt09L6kJ7NAhWHOCYKHTOFCLMQ6AEIRDAH

If she raised his tomb, she was likely his daughter, not daughter of his brother, the Earl of Orkney.

Hans Vogels

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Op vrijdag 17 juni 2016 18:22:12 UTC+2 schreef ravinma...@yahoo.com:

> (2) Christian Stewart was in fact a daughter of the Earl of Orkney, older than her half-sister Christian Stewart, spouse of John Mouat/ Mowat. It is possible that the 1564 reference to Grizel Stewart, dau. of Robert, feuar, "apparent spouse" to Adam Mudie, is a mistake for CHRISTIAN Stewart.


Could it be that Christian alias "Grizel" and Adam were unmarried but living together? Perhaps there was a marriage impediment that prevented them getting married. That could explain the "apparent".

Being "unmarried" Christian Stewart could later, when her relation with Adam failed, have married John Mowat.

It looks to me that in this timeframe (and other periodes elsewhere) when it was not frowned upon being illegitimate or being a natural child or a bastard (some were even proud), for the person concerning it did not matter what he/she did or what became of him/her because he/she was not a legal child of his parents.

Some were lucky and found a marriage partner on the same social (illegitimate of noble descent level) or a marriage partner with a commoner or stayed unmarried with or without illegitimate offspring. Their outlook stayed the same, they were less then their legal kinsman.

Hans Vogels

Hans Vogels

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> It looks to me that in this timeframe (and other periodes elsewhere) when it was not frowned upon being illegitimate or being a natural child or a bastard (some were even proud), for the person concerning it did not matter what he/she did or what became of him/her because he/she was not a legal child of his parents.
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> Some were lucky and found a marriage partner on the same social (illegitimate of noble descent level) or a marriage partner with a commoner or stayed unmarried with or without illegitimate offspring. Their outlook stayed the same, they were less then their legal kinsman.

Maybe my Dutch outlook is tainted on this Scottish period. The status and prospects of the illegitimate depended too on the status of the mother. Some fathers really cared about their offspring and others are only known to have fathered an child that gets mentioned once or twice and disappears from records.
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> Hans Vogels

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