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Generation 6

32. Iago ab Idwal, d. 1039 [AC, AU, CS], king of Gwynedd, 1023-1039.
[AC.c: "Iacob rex Venedo[d?]i[ae] occiditur."; AU 1039: "Iaco ri
Bretan a suis, ... [several others listed] ..., omnes occisi sunt.";
CS 1037=1039: "Iaco Ri Bretan a suis occisus est."] [JC.25; see also
DNB.10.408]

33. Unknown. [Note: ABT.6i gives her as "Afandreg ferch Wair ap Pyll
..." etc., a supposed descendant of the legendary Llywarch Hen through
a string of unidentifiable names. I consider this data doubtful.]

34. Amlaíb mac Sitric (Old Norse Óláfr), royal heir of Dublin, d. 1034
[AU] [GaC] [Note: The names from the dynasty of the Norse kings of
Dublin and York will be given here in their Irish forms, which is how
they appear in most of the contemporary or near contemporary sources
which mention them. Corresponding Old Norse forms will be given in
parentheses (based on twelfth and thirteenth century Icelandic
sources).]

35. Máelcorcre ingen Dúnlaing [GaC] [See note under #17]

36. Edwin of Tegeingl [Note: PP.36 gives several contradictory
accounts of Edwin's parentage, all from late manuscripts, so his
parentage should be regarded as unknown. The attempt of David H.
Kelley (in "Edwin of Tegeingl", The American Genealogist 46 (1970),
75- 80) to identify him with Edwin of Mercia is unconvincing.]

37. Iwerydd ferch Cynfyn [ByT, p. 101]

38-39. Unknown.

40. Caradog. [Note: As father of Trahaern ap Caradog, his first name
is certain from his son's patronymic. As far as I have been able to
determine, none of Caradog's alleged ancestors (e.g., in ABT.2a,13,14)
is a verifiably historical individual.]

41. Unknown. [Note: The Welsh annals (AC and ByT) refer to Trahaern
ap Caradog as a cousin of Bleddyn ap Cynfyn (#24), which has led to
speculation that Trahaern's mother was perhaps a sister of Cynfyn ap
Gwerystan (#48). However, although we can be reasonably certain that
Trahaern and Bleddyn were cousins, this information is not enough to
nail down the precise relationship.]

42-47. Unknown

48. Cynfyn ap Gwerystan [ByT, pp. 55, 87, 101; MG.3; JC.27] (also #74)


49. Angharad ferch Maredudd [BYT, pp. 55, 87; JC.27; ABT.1e,7k]

50. Cillin y Blaidd Rhudd [ABT.1d,8b, of which 8b calls him "ap y
Blaidd Rrudd", the "ap" being an apparent mistake.]

51-63. Unknown

Generation 7

64. Idwal ap Meuric, d. ca. 997 [AC], king of Gwynedd. [JC.25; see
also DNB 10, 412]

65-67. Unknown.

68. Sitric mac Amlaíb (Old Norse Sigtryggr Silkiskeggi), king of
Dublin, deposed 1036, d. 1042 [AU].

69. Slani ingen Briain [GaC] [See note under #17. The fact that
Sitric was married to a daughter of Brian is also confirmed by the
early twelfth century source Cogadh Gaedhel re Gallaibh ("War of the
Gaedhil with the Gaill"), ed. J. H. Todd (Rolls Series 48, London,
1867), pp. 193, 257.]

70. Dúnlaing mac Tuathail (of the Uí Muiredaig branch of Uí Dúnlaing),
king of Laigin d. 1014 [AU] [GaC]

71. Unknown.

72. Unknown [See note under #36]

73. Unknown.

74. Cynfyn ap Gwerstan (same as #48)

75. Unknown [Note: ByT, p. 101 explicitly states that Iwerydd ferch
Cynfyn (#37) was Cynfyn's daughter by a mother (unnamed) different
from Angharad. ABT.2f,7k states that Angharad was Iweydd's mother.
Since it is a common mistake to assume that all of a man's children
are by his known wife, it is more likely that ByT is correct here.
For Angharad and her ancestors, see #49, #98, etc.]

76-95. Unknown

96. Gwerystan [Note: Since his name appears in ByT, p. 101 as a
patronymic for Cynfyn, I am inclined to view the name as correct, but
the earlier generations of his pedigree show wide variation, and are
probably a late invention.]

97. Unknown [Note: Late sources make her Nest, daughter of Cadell ap
Brochwel, king of Powys, which is chronologically impossible.]

98. Maredudd ap Owain, d. 999 [AC] [ABT.1e,7j,k]

99-127. Unknown

Generation 8

128. Meuric ab Idwal Voel, d. 986 [AC]. [JC.25; see also DNB 10, 412]


129-135. Unknown.

136. Amlaíb Cuaran (Old Norse Óláfr Kváran), king of Dublin & York, d.
981 [AU] [GaC]

137. Gormlaith ingen Murchada (of Uí Dúnlainge), d. 1030 [AT]. In
addition to being the wife of Amlaib Cuaran, she was also married to
Máel Sechnaill mac Domnaill, king of Mide (Meath) and king of Ireland
(d. 1022), and to Brian Boruma (#138) [BS 189, 227; R.117c=LL.334c
(Rw.14, CGH.13); LL334d (CGH.423)]

138. Brian Bóruma mac Cennétig (of Dál Cais), king of Mumu (Munster)
and Ireland, killed 23 Apr 1014 after his forces had been victorious
at the Battle of Clontarf [AU] [GaC; R.152b=LL.322f (Rw.1278,
CGH.237); R.154a=LL.336d=Lec.225Rb (Rw.1359, CGH.250)]

139. Unknown. [Brian had four known wives, and no known source states
which wife was Slani's mother.]

140. Tuathal mac Augaire (of the Uí Muiredaig branch of Uí Dúnlainge,
ancestor of the family of Ua Tuathail, i.e., O'Toole), king of Laigin,
d. 958 [AU] [R.117c=LL.337d=BB.138a (Rw.11, CGH.12)]

141-195. Unknown or duplicated.

196. Owain ap Hywel Dda, king of South Wales, d. 988 [AC] [HG.1,2,
where he appears as "[O]uen map [H]iguel" in the former (which gives
his ancestry through his father), and "[O]uein map Elen" in the latter
(which gives his ancestry through his mother). The letters in
brackets are accidental omissions. Since the early forms of the names
in HG are so much different from the modern Welsh forms, they will be
given for each of Owain's ancestors as they appear in HG for sake of
comparison.]

197. Unknown. [The claim that she was Angharad ferch Llywelyn ap
Merfyn ap Rhodri (see #1024) appears only in late manuscripts, and
should be regarded as dubious. See EWGT, p. 141.]

198-255. Unknown.


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