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OT James II of Scotland Descent for Hon. Sevilla Erskine (1809-1835)
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Brad Verity
Feb 8, 2015, 1:12:35 PM2/8/15
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With the next Howard spouse, we finally get an American, or at least American-born. Hon. Sevilla Erskine was born in Washington, DC on 16 February 1809. Her father David, the heir to the Barony of Erskine, had been appointed minister plenipotentiary to the U.S. in July 1806. David Erskine was very familiar with the States, having spent four years living there in his early twenties. His maternal grandfather, Daniel Moore of Widmer Manor, Buckinghamshire (1701-aft.1772) had been born in Philadelphia, before moving to Barbados as a merchant and taking a wife there, then eventually moving to England, where he served as a MP 1754-1761. Daniel Moore has a bio in HOP, here:
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1754-1790/member/moore-daniel-1701
Daniel Moore's only surviving child, Frances Moore eloped with rising politician Thomas Erskine (future 1st Baron Erskine and Lord Chancellor). The 1st Baron (who has an extensive bio in ODNB) was a great admirer of the newly independent United States, and sent his eldest son there to meet his mother's relations and familiarize himself with the former colonies. David married his second cousin Frances Cadwalader on 16 December 1799, and took her back to England, returning to the States with her in his diplomatic post. Sevilla was their third daughter and fifth child. When she was only a few months old, her father was recalled back to England.
David inherited the Barony of Erskine in 1823, and was assigned a diplomatic post in Wurttemberg the following year. He was promoted to a post in Munich, Bavaria four years later, and it was there that his daughter Sevilla met the British-born Henry Francis Howard, a younger son of the branch of the family seated at Corby Castle, Cumberland. Howard had just entered Diplomatic Service in 1828. The young couple married in Munich on 23 December 1830. Their elder daughter Isabella was born there in 1832, Henry Howard was assigned a post in Berlin, and it was in that capital city where Sevilla died, on 12 March 1835, from complications resulting from the birth of their younger daughter Adela.
Leo has Hon. Sevilla Erskine in his database, here:
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023928&tree=LEO
Per his ODNB bio, Thomas, 1st Baron Erskine "would allude in his legal career to his kinship with George III, since both were descendants of the house of Stewart." The most recent Stewart monarch the 1st Baron Erskine had for an ancestor is James II of Scotland (see the descent below). What's interesting is that several online genealogies would have both the 2nd Baron's first wife Frances Cadwalader (Sevilla's mother) as a descendant of James V.
In 1883, Charles Henry Browning in his 'Americans of Royal Descent' published a pedigree that had Frances Cadwalader's great-grandmother Williamina Wemyss Moore (d. 1784), as a daughter of David, 4th Earl of Wemyss & his 1st wife Lady Anne Douglas:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=XJo-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA42&dq=15.-Lady+Williamina+Wemyss,+b.+1704&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lp3XVMy-IoauogTHj4L4Bw&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=15.-Lady%20Williamina%20Wemyss%2C%20b.%201704&f=false
A 1975 article 'Noted Europeans of American Descent' in TAG, says of this Williamina Wemyss that she "is alleged to have been a granddaughter, of the 4th Earl of Wemyss. This claim can be disproved but there is evidence to indicate her descent from some branch of that ancient Scottish house":
https://books.google.ca/books?ei=lZzXVPHUPMqzogTvzICAAw&id=4BAoAQAAMAAJ&dq=williamina+bond+1753&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=wemyss
The entry for Williamina's husband William Moore in 'American National Biography' states, "About 1722 he married Williamina Wemyss, reputed to have been the sister of James, the fourth earl of Wemyss, in Scotland. However, Sir James Fraser's Memorials of the Family of Wemyss of Wemyss makes no mention of a Williamina Wemyss":
http://oxfordindex.oup.com/view/10.1093/anb/9780198606697.article.0100623
Williamina Wemyss is nowhere to be found in Scots Peerage or Burke's Peerage, either. The current theory is that she and her two brothers, David Weems of Marshes Seat plantation in Maryland (d. 1779) and Dr. James Weems (d. 1781), were the bastard offspring of Sir James Wemyss, Baronet of Bogie:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=rPp-SF_m1VIC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=wemyss+to+weems+although+at+the+end+of+my+alphabetical&source=bl&ots=XFE8-p9DS7&sig=X5g0R9bVJILnt5X-i_PsIholaTo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PqTXVKa5NI2yogS8hIDQCA&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=wemyss%20to%20weems%20although%20at%20the%20end%20of%20my%20alphabetical&f=false
http://weemscollections.com/geneology
The Wemyss of Bogie line can be traced back to David Wemyss of Wemyss (d. 1597) & Cecilia Ruthven (d. 1589), but as neither are descended from Edward I, I haven't entered it into my database.
Hon. Sevilla Erskine does have a 14-generation descent from James II of Scotland, as so.
James II of Scotland had a dau
1) Princess Mary Stewart of Scotland (1451-1488) m. 2) James, 1st Lord Hamilton (c.1415-1479), and had
2) Elizabeth Hamilton (c.1477-aft.1530) m. Matthew Stewart, 2nd Earl of Lennox (by1463-1513), and had
3) John Stewart, 3rd Earl of Lennox (c.1496-1526) m. Lady Isabel Stewart (c.1495-aft.1556, descended from Edward III), and had
4) John Stuart, 5th Seigneur of Aubigny (c.1519-1567) m. Anne de la Queuille, and had
5) Esmé Stuart, 1st Duke of Lennox (c.1543-1583) m. Katherine Balzac (c.1553-c.1631), and had
6) Lady Mary Stuart (c.1576-1644) m. John Erskine, 2nd Earl of Mar (1562-1634, descended from Edward III), and had
7) Henry Erskine, Master of Cardross (c.1595-1628) m. Margaret Bellingham (d. aft.1640), and had
8) David Erskine, 2nd Lord Cardross (1627-1671) m. 1) Anne Hope (1625-by1655), and had
9) Henry Erskine, 3rd Lord Cardross (1650-1693) m. Katherine Stewart (d. 1725), and had
10) David Erskine, 9th Earl of Buchan (1672-1745) m. 1) Frances Fairfax (1680-1719, descended from Edward III), and had
11) Henry David Erskine, 10th Earl of Buchan (1710-1767) m. Agnes Steuart (d. 1778), and had
12) Thomas, 1st Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1750-1823) m. 1) Frances Moore (d. 1805), and had
13) David Montagu, 2nd Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1776-1855) m. 1) Frances Cadwalader (1781-1843), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023902&tree=LEO
14) Hon. Sevilla Erskine (1809-1835) m. Sir Henry Francis Howard of Munich
A subsequent post will cover the remaining Edward III descents for Hon. Sevilla Erskine.
Cheers, -----Brad
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1754-1790/member/moore-daniel-1701
Daniel Moore's only surviving child, Frances Moore eloped with rising politician Thomas Erskine (future 1st Baron Erskine and Lord Chancellor). The 1st Baron (who has an extensive bio in ODNB) was a great admirer of the newly independent United States, and sent his eldest son there to meet his mother's relations and familiarize himself with the former colonies. David married his second cousin Frances Cadwalader on 16 December 1799, and took her back to England, returning to the States with her in his diplomatic post. Sevilla was their third daughter and fifth child. When she was only a few months old, her father was recalled back to England.
David inherited the Barony of Erskine in 1823, and was assigned a diplomatic post in Wurttemberg the following year. He was promoted to a post in Munich, Bavaria four years later, and it was there that his daughter Sevilla met the British-born Henry Francis Howard, a younger son of the branch of the family seated at Corby Castle, Cumberland. Howard had just entered Diplomatic Service in 1828. The young couple married in Munich on 23 December 1830. Their elder daughter Isabella was born there in 1832, Henry Howard was assigned a post in Berlin, and it was in that capital city where Sevilla died, on 12 March 1835, from complications resulting from the birth of their younger daughter Adela.
Leo has Hon. Sevilla Erskine in his database, here:
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023928&tree=LEO
Per his ODNB bio, Thomas, 1st Baron Erskine "would allude in his legal career to his kinship with George III, since both were descendants of the house of Stewart." The most recent Stewart monarch the 1st Baron Erskine had for an ancestor is James II of Scotland (see the descent below). What's interesting is that several online genealogies would have both the 2nd Baron's first wife Frances Cadwalader (Sevilla's mother) as a descendant of James V.
In 1883, Charles Henry Browning in his 'Americans of Royal Descent' published a pedigree that had Frances Cadwalader's great-grandmother Williamina Wemyss Moore (d. 1784), as a daughter of David, 4th Earl of Wemyss & his 1st wife Lady Anne Douglas:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=XJo-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA42&dq=15.-Lady+Williamina+Wemyss,+b.+1704&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lp3XVMy-IoauogTHj4L4Bw&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=15.-Lady%20Williamina%20Wemyss%2C%20b.%201704&f=false
A 1975 article 'Noted Europeans of American Descent' in TAG, says of this Williamina Wemyss that she "is alleged to have been a granddaughter, of the 4th Earl of Wemyss. This claim can be disproved but there is evidence to indicate her descent from some branch of that ancient Scottish house":
https://books.google.ca/books?ei=lZzXVPHUPMqzogTvzICAAw&id=4BAoAQAAMAAJ&dq=williamina+bond+1753&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=wemyss
The entry for Williamina's husband William Moore in 'American National Biography' states, "About 1722 he married Williamina Wemyss, reputed to have been the sister of James, the fourth earl of Wemyss, in Scotland. However, Sir James Fraser's Memorials of the Family of Wemyss of Wemyss makes no mention of a Williamina Wemyss":
http://oxfordindex.oup.com/view/10.1093/anb/9780198606697.article.0100623
Williamina Wemyss is nowhere to be found in Scots Peerage or Burke's Peerage, either. The current theory is that she and her two brothers, David Weems of Marshes Seat plantation in Maryland (d. 1779) and Dr. James Weems (d. 1781), were the bastard offspring of Sir James Wemyss, Baronet of Bogie:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=rPp-SF_m1VIC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=wemyss+to+weems+although+at+the+end+of+my+alphabetical&source=bl&ots=XFE8-p9DS7&sig=X5g0R9bVJILnt5X-i_PsIholaTo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PqTXVKa5NI2yogS8hIDQCA&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=wemyss%20to%20weems%20although%20at%20the%20end%20of%20my%20alphabetical&f=false
http://weemscollections.com/geneology
The Wemyss of Bogie line can be traced back to David Wemyss of Wemyss (d. 1597) & Cecilia Ruthven (d. 1589), but as neither are descended from Edward I, I haven't entered it into my database.
Hon. Sevilla Erskine does have a 14-generation descent from James II of Scotland, as so.
James II of Scotland had a dau
1) Princess Mary Stewart of Scotland (1451-1488) m. 2) James, 1st Lord Hamilton (c.1415-1479), and had
2) Elizabeth Hamilton (c.1477-aft.1530) m. Matthew Stewart, 2nd Earl of Lennox (by1463-1513), and had
3) John Stewart, 3rd Earl of Lennox (c.1496-1526) m. Lady Isabel Stewart (c.1495-aft.1556, descended from Edward III), and had
4) John Stuart, 5th Seigneur of Aubigny (c.1519-1567) m. Anne de la Queuille, and had
5) Esmé Stuart, 1st Duke of Lennox (c.1543-1583) m. Katherine Balzac (c.1553-c.1631), and had
6) Lady Mary Stuart (c.1576-1644) m. John Erskine, 2nd Earl of Mar (1562-1634, descended from Edward III), and had
7) Henry Erskine, Master of Cardross (c.1595-1628) m. Margaret Bellingham (d. aft.1640), and had
8) David Erskine, 2nd Lord Cardross (1627-1671) m. 1) Anne Hope (1625-by1655), and had
9) Henry Erskine, 3rd Lord Cardross (1650-1693) m. Katherine Stewart (d. 1725), and had
10) David Erskine, 9th Earl of Buchan (1672-1745) m. 1) Frances Fairfax (1680-1719, descended from Edward III), and had
11) Henry David Erskine, 10th Earl of Buchan (1710-1767) m. Agnes Steuart (d. 1778), and had
12) Thomas, 1st Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1750-1823) m. 1) Frances Moore (d. 1805), and had
13) David Montagu, 2nd Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1776-1855) m. 1) Frances Cadwalader (1781-1843), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023902&tree=LEO
14) Hon. Sevilla Erskine (1809-1835) m. Sir Henry Francis Howard of Munich
A subsequent post will cover the remaining Edward III descents for Hon. Sevilla Erskine.
Cheers, -----Brad
Brad Verity
Feb 8, 2015, 2:01:09 PM2/8/15
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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 10:12:35 AM UTC-8, Brad Verity wrote:
> A subsequent post will cover the remaining Edward III descents for Hon. Sevilla Erskine.
There are 13 separate lines of descent from Edward III for Hon. Sevilla Erskine, not counting those from James II of Scotland, already posted. They are laid out below, with links to the most recent individuals in Leo's database for each.
> A subsequent post will cover the remaining Edward III descents for Hon. Sevilla Erskine.
Edward III had 2 sons, A1 & L1 (see below)
A1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) m. three times, and had a son A2, and two daus D2 & K2 (see below)
A2) John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset, by 3rd wife (1373-1410) m. Lady Margaret Holland (1383-1439, descended from Edward I), and had a dau A3 & a son C3 (see below)
A3) Joan Beaufort, Queen of Scotland (c.1403-1445), m. 2) Sir James Stewart of Lorn (c.1383-1451), and had
A4) John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl (c.1440-1512) m. 2) Eleanor Sinclair (d. 1519), and had 2 daus A5 & B5 (see below)
A5) Lady Margaret Stewart m. Sir William Murray of Castleton (d. 1513), and had
A6) Sir William Murray of Tullibardine (c.1490-1563) m. Katherine Campbell (d. aft.1576), and had
A7) Annabella Murray (d. 1603) m. John Erskine, 1st Earl of Mar (c.1510-1572), and had
A8) John Erskine, 2nd Earl of Mar (1562-1634) m. 2) Lady Mary Stuart (see B8 below), and had
A9) Henry Erskine, Master of Cardross (c.1595-1628) m. Margaret Bellingham (d. aft.1640), and had
A10) David Erskine, 2nd Lord Cardross (1627-1671) m. 1) Anne Hope (1625-by1655), and had
A11) Henry Erskine, 3rd Lord Cardross (1650-1693) m. Katherine Stewart (d. 1725), and had
A12) David Erskine, 9th Earl of Buchan (1672-1745) m. 1) Frances Fairfax (see C14 below), and had
A13) Henry David Erskine, 10th Earl of Buchan (1710-1767) m. Agnes Steuart (d. 1778), and had
A14) Thomas, 1st Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1750-1823) m. 1) Frances Moore (d. 1805), and had
A15) David Montagu, 2nd Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1776-1855) m. 1) Frances Cadwalader (1781-1843), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023902&tree=LEO
A16) Hon. Sevilla Erskine (1809-1835) m. Sir Henry Francis Howard of Munich
B5) Lady Isabel Stewart (c.1495-aft.1556) m. John Stewart, 3rd Earl of Lennox (c.1496-1526, descended from James II), and had
B6) John Stuart, 5th Seigneur of Aubigny (c.1519-1567) m. Anne de la Queuille, and had
B7) Esmé Stuart, 1st Duke of Lennox (c.1543-1583) m. Catherine Balzac (d. abt.1631), and had
B8) Lady Mary Stuart (c.1576-1644) m. John Erskine, 2nd Earl of Mar (see A8 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007595&tree=LEO
C3) Edmund Beaufort, 2nd Duke of Somerset (1406-1455) m. Lady Eleanor Beauchamp (1408-1467, descended from Edward I), and had
C4) Lady Eleanor Beaufort (c.1440-1501) m. 2) Sir Robert Spencer of Ashbury (c.1435-1510), and had
C5) Katherine Spencer (1477-1542) m. Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of Northumberland (see D6 below), and had
C6) Lady Margaret Percy (c.1495-1540) m. Henry Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland (see M8 below), and had
C8) Lady Katherine Clifford (1518-1598) m. 1) John, 8th Lord Scrope of Bolton (see F7 below), and had
C9) Margaret Scrope m. Sir John Constable of Burton Constable (see J9 below), and had
C10) Sir Henry Constable of Burton Constable (c.1559-1608) m. Margaret Dormer (1562-1637), and had
C11) Katherine Constable (c.1578-1626) m. Thomas, 1st Viscount Fairfax of Elmley (see E9 below), and had
C12) Hon. Henry Fairfax of Bridlington (1601-1650) m. 2) Frances Barker (1605-1669), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00639298&tree=LEO
C13) Henry Fairfax of Hurst Lodge (1639-1694) m. Anne Browne (1647-1698, descended from Edward I), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00024029&tree=LEO
C14) Frances Fairfax (1680-1719) m. David Erskine, 9th Earl of Buchan (see A12 above)
D2) Joan Beaufort, by 3rd wife (c.1377-1440) m. twice, and had 3 daus D3, H3 & I3 (see below)
D3) Lady Eleanor Neville, by 2nd husband (1403-1472) m. 2) Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland (see L4 below), and had a son D4 & a dau G4 (see below)
D4) Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461) m. Eleanor Poynings (1428-1484, descended from Edward I), and had a son D5 & 2 daus E5 & F5 (see below)
D5) Henry Percy, 4th Earl of Northumberland (c.1449-1489) m. Lady Maud Herbert (c.1457-by1487), and had
D6) Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of Northumberland (1478-1527) m. Katherine Spencer (see C5 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002031&tree=LEO
E5) Lady Margaret Percy (b. c.1448) m. Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (see I6 below), and had
E6) Anne Gascoigne (b. c.1482) m. Sir Thomas Fairfax of Gilling Castle (c.1476-1520), and had
E7) Sir Nicholas Fairfax of Gilling Castle (1498-1571) m. 1) Jane Palmes, and had
E8) Sir William Fairfax of Gilling Castle (by1531-1597) m. 2) Jane Stapleton (descended from Edward I), and had
E9) Thomas, 1st Viscount Fairfax of Elmley (1577-1636) m. 1) Katherine Constable (see C11 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232137&tree=LEO
F5) Lady Elizabeth Percy (b. c.1460) m. Henry, 6th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.1460-1506, descended from Edward I), and had
F6) Henry, 7th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.1480-1533) m. Mabel Dacre (see G7 below), and had
F7) John, 8th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.1515-1549) m. Lady Katherine Clifford (see C8 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109102&tree=LEO
G4) Lady Katherine Percy (1423-1493) m. Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent (see K4 below), and had
G5) Lady Elizabeth Grey (c.1451-1471) m. Sir Robert Greystoke (see H5 below), and had
G6) Elizabeth, 6th Lady Greystoke (1471-1516) m. Thomas, 2nd Lord Dacre of Gilsland (1467-1525, descended from Edward I), and had
G7) Mabel Dacre m. Henry, 7th Lord Scrope of Bolton (see F6 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109108&tree=LEO
H3) Elizabeth Ferrers, by 1st husband (1393-1434) m. John, 4th Lord Greystoke (c. 1390-1436), and had
H4) Ralph, 5th Lord Greystoke (1414-1487) m. 1) Elizabeth Fitzhugh (c.1420-1469), and had
H5) Sir Robert Greystoke, Heir of Greystoke (c.1440-1483) m. 1) Elizabeth Grey (see G5 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198309&tree=LEO
I3) Mary Ferrers, by 1st husband (1394-1458) m. Sir Ralph Neville of Oversley (c. 1395-1458, descended from Edward I), and had
I4) John Neville of Oversley (c.1415-1482) m. Elizabeth Newmarch, and had
I5) Joan Neville m. 1) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (c.1428-1463), and had a son I6 & a dau J6 (see below)
I6) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (c.1450-1487) m. Margaret Percy (see E5 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109415&tree=LEO
J6) Margaret Gascoigne m. Sir Christopher Ward of Givendale (1453-1521), and had
J7) Anne Ward (d. 1521) m. 2) Ralph Neville of Thornton Bridge (1469-1522), and had
J8) Joan Neville (b. 1500) m. Sir John Constable of Burton Constable (d. 1542), and had
J9) Sir John Constable of Burton Constable (1526-1579) m. 1) Margaret Scrope (see C9 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00346790&tree=LEO
K2) Elizabeth of Lancaster, by 1st wife (1364-1425) m. 2) John Holland, 1st Duke of Exeter (c.1358-1400, descended from Edward I), and had
K3) Lady Constance Holland (1386-1437) m. 2) Sir John Grey of Badmondisfield Hall (c.1385-1439, descended from Edward I), and had
K4) Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent (1416-1490) m. Lady Katherine Percy (see G4 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00059129&tree=LEO
L1) Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) m. 1) Lady Elizabeth de Burgh (1332-1363, descended from Edward I), and had
L2) Philippa of Clarence (1355-1377) m. Edmund Mortmer, 3rd Earl of March (1352-1381), and had
L3) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy (1364-1403), and had a son L4 & a dau M4 (see below)
L4) Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland (1394-1455) m. Lady Eleanor Neville (see D3 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015423&tree=LEO
M4) Elizabeth Percy (c.1395-1437) m. 1) John, 7th Lord Clifford (1388-1422, descended from Edward I), and had
M5) Thomas, 8th Lord Clifford (1414-1455) m. Joan Dacre (c.1417-c.1452, descended from Edward I), and had
M6) John, 9th Lord Clifford (1435-1461) m. Margaret Bromflete (c.1436-1493), and had
M7) Henry, 10th Lord Clifford (1454-1523) m. 1) Anne St John (d. 1508), and had
M8) Henry Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland (1493-1542) m. 2) Lady Margaret Percy (see C6 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002033&tree=LEO
Cheers, ---Brad
Brad Verity
Feb 9, 2015, 5:54:20 PM2/9/15
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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 10:12:35 AM UTC-8, Brad Verity wrote:
> Per his ODNB bio, Thomas, 1st Baron Erskine "would allude in his legal career to his kinship with George III, since both were descendants of the house of Stewart." The most recent Stewart monarch the 1st Baron Erskine had for an ancestor is James II of Scotland (see the descent below).
Many thanks to Leo van de Pas for pointing out to me a James IV descent for Sevilla Erskine Howard that I had overlooked.
James IV of Scotland = Agnes Stewart (c.1488-1557, descended from Edward III), and had
1) Lady Janet Stewart, illegit. (c.1508-by1563) m. Malcolm, 3rd Lord Fleming (c.1494-1547), and had
2) Agnes Fleming (c.1537-1597) m. William, 6th Lord Livingston (d. 1592, descended from James I), and had
3) Margaret Livingston (c.1560-aft.1619) m. 1) Sir Lewis Bellenden of Auchinoul (by1557-1591, descended from Edward III), and had
4) Sir James Bellenden of Broughton (c.1582-1606) m. Margaret Ker, and had
5) Margaret Bellenden (c.1605-aft.1640) m. Henry Erskine, Master of Cardross (c.1595-1628, descended from James II), and had
6) David Erskine, 2nd Lord Cardross (1627-1671) m. 1) Anne Hope (1625-by1655), and had
7) Henry Erskine, 3rd Lord Cardross (1650-1693) m. Katherine Stewart (d. 1725), and had
8) David Erskine, 9th Earl of Buchan (1672-1745) m. 1) Frances Fairfax (1680-1719, descended from Edward III), and had
9) Henry David Erskine, 10th Earl of Buchan (1710-1767) m. Agnes Steuart (d. 1778), and had
10) Thomas, 1st Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1750-1823) m. 1) Frances Moore (d. 1805), and had
11) David Montagu, 2nd Baron Erskine of Restormel Castle (1776-1855) m. 1) Frances Cadwalader (1781-1843), and had
12) Hon. Sevilla Erskine (1809-1835) m. Sir Henry Francis Howard of Munich
This adds a number of additional Edward III lines for Sevilla Erskine, as well.
Cheers, -----Brad
Olivier
Feb 10, 2015, 5:08:01 AM2/10/15
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can you give us the link between Sir Lewis and King Edward III ?
Now 20 links between Sevilla and King Edward III.
Regards,
Olivier
> 3) Margaret Livingston (c.1560-aft.1619) m. 1) Sir Lewis Bellenden of Auchinoul (by1557-1591, descended from Edward III), and had
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> This adds a number of additional Edward III lines for Sevilla Erskine, as well.
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> Cheers, -----Brad
Dear Brad,
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> Cheers, -----Brad
can you give us the link between Sir Lewis and King Edward III ?
Now 20 links between Sevilla and King Edward III.
Regards,
Olivier
Brad Verity
Feb 10, 2015, 1:30:58 PM2/10/15
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On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 2:08:01 AM UTC-8, Olivier wrote:
> can you give us the link between Sir Lewis and King Edward III ?
Dear Olivier,
> can you give us the link between Sir Lewis and King Edward III ?
Here it is.
Edward III had a son,
1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) m. 3) Katherine Roet (c.1350-1403), and had
2) John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset (1373-1410) m. Lady Margaret Holland (1383-1439, descended from Edward I), and had
3) Lady Joan Beaufort, Queen of Scotland (c.1403-1445) m. 2) Sir James Stewart of Lorn (c.1383-1451), and had
4) John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl (c.1440-1512) m. 2) Lady Eleanor Sinclair (d. 1519), and had
5) John Stewart, 2nd Earl of Atholl (c.1481-1521) m. Lady Janet Campbell (d. 1546), and had
6) Lady Janet Stewart (b. c.1503) m. 2) (div.) Sir Hugh Kennedy of Girvan Mains (d. aft.1565), and had
7) Barbara Kennedy (c.1534-by1564) m. Sir John Bellenden of Auchinoul (d. 1576), and had
8) Sir Lewis Bellenden of Auchinoul (by1557-1591) m. 2) Margaret Livingston (c.1560-aft.1619, descended from James IV)
> Now 20 links between Sevilla and King Edward III.
Cheers, ----Brad
Isla MacDonald
Feb 10, 2015, 11:52:10 PM2/10/15
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You've really drawn me into the Williamina Wemyss story. Thanks for the link to Of Kindred Celtic Origins.
Olivier
Feb 11, 2015, 5:24:38 AM2/11/15
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Thanks you for this link.
Regards,
Olivier
Brad Verity
Feb 11, 2015, 1:40:45 PM2/11/15
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On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 8:52:10 PM UTC-8, Isla MacDonald wrote:
> You've really drawn me into the Williamina Wemyss story. Thanks for the link to Of Kindred Celtic Origins.
You're very welcome, Isla. Williamina is fascinating. I haven't entirely ruled out the possibility that she and her brothers were bastards of the 4th Earl of Wemyss, but apparently no evidence can be found for them in the Wemyss archives, so it doesn't look likely. Since her daughter Williamina Moore married Phineas Bond, a well-educated and accomplished physician,
> You've really drawn me into the Williamina Wemyss story. Thanks for the link to Of Kindred Celtic Origins.
http://www.archives.upenn.edu/people/1700s/bond_phineas.html
Williamina Wemyss may have thought being an exiled daughter of a Jacobite earl made a better impression on suitors for her daughter's hand, than being the illegitimate orphaned daughter of an impoverished baronet too financially strapped to maintain the lands of his cadet branch of the family.
You'll like 'Royal Bastards' too - it's well researched and a good read. Yes, I would imagine co-author Peter Beauclerk-Dewar descends from Charles II thru the Dukes of St Albans.
Unfortunately Louisa Maria La Coast (1782-1835) is not included in the book, as the focus it's solely on the illegitimates of the Hanoverian monarchs and the Princes of Wales in the direct line of succession.
Cheers, ----Brad
Matthew Connolly
Feb 11, 2015, 2:37:12 PM2/11/15
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Brad, Isla et al: it sounds like it might also be worth you looking at Anthony Camp's work "Royal Mistresses and Bastards", if not already seen; his website gives details of libraries holding copies: anthonyjcamp.com
- Matthew
- Matthew
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