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Ancestry of Edith Stourton (died 1441), wife of John Beauchamp, Knt., and Robert Shottesbrook, Knt.

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celticp...@gmail.com

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Jul 7, 2019, 1:54:04 PM7/7/19
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Dear Newsgroup ~

Edith Stourton, the great-grandmother of King Henry VII, is known to have been the daughter of John Stourton, Knt., of Stourton, Wiltshire, Escheator of Somerset and Dorset, presumably by his 2nd wife, Alice.

I've encountered two clues which may help extend Edith Stourton's ancestry.

First, I find that Edith Stourton's nephew, Sir John Stourton, styled himself "your cosyn" in a letter to Sir John Luttrell written c.1428. See Archaeological Journal, 37 (1880): 174, available at the following weblink:

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZH_QAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA174

The recipient of the letter in question was Sir John Luttrell (died 1430), of of Dunster, Carhampton, and Kilton, Somerset. For his extended ancestry, see my book, Royal Ancestry (5 volume set), published in 2013.

Jacob, Reg. of Henry Chichele 2 (Canterbury & York Soc. 42) (1937): 7–9 includes a full transcript of the will of Lady Alice Stury dated 1414. In her will, the testatrix specifically mentions her “cousin” [cosyn] Sir Hugh Loterell.

Sir Hugh Loterell/Luttrell in turn was the father of Sir John Luttrell (died 1430) mentioned above.

Lady Alice Stury was the daughter and heiress of John Blount, Knt., of Hampton (in Hampton Lovett), Worcestershire, Belton, Rutland, etc., by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Simon Furneaux, Knt., of Ashington, Kilve, Perry Furneaux (in Wembdon), and Steyning (in Stogursey), Somerset, Furnax (in Warminster), Wiltshire, etc.

The specific connection between these various families is currently unknown. However, if the connection between the Stourton, Luttrell, and Blount/Furneaux families is common to all three families, it seems possible to me that Edith Stourton might well be near related to Lady Alice Stury's maternal grandfather, Simon Furneaux, Knt. or to his wife, Alice, daughter and co-heiress of Henry Umfreville, Knt.

For an interesting article on the Furneaux family published in Coll. Top. et Genealogica 1 (1834): 243–248, see the following weblink:

https://books.google.com/books?id=a_0GAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA243

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Jeffery Duvall

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Jul 8, 2019, 5:33:43 PM7/8/19
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Doug,

Isn't the St. John family also descended from this same Henry Umfreville, Knt.? I simply ask because if so, that would make Sir Oliver St. John and Edith Stourton's daughter, Margaret Beauchamp, cousins of some sort, assuming Edith Stourton's link to the Luttrell family and Lady Alice Stury, was through the Umfreville family. What I don't know is whether or not they would be related to one another close enough to fall within a prohibited degree (if so they would have needed a dispensation). If I'm remembering this correctly (i.e. that Sir Oliver St. John was indeed descended from this same Umfreville family), and he and Margaret Beauchamp required a dispensation in order to marry, this might help support the idea that Edith Stourton was an Umfreville descendant.

Jeff Duvall
Indianapolis, IN

celticp...@gmail.com

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Jul 8, 2019, 8:38:59 PM7/8/19
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Dear Jeff ~

Thank you for your response. Much appreciated.

According to Harvey et al., Vis. of Bedfordshire 1566, 1582, 1634 & 1669 (H.S.P. 19) (1884): 51–54 (Saint John ped.), Sir Oliver Saint John, husband of Margaret Beauchamp, was the great-great-grandson of Alexander Saint John, who married Elizabeth Umfreville. I think this pedigree is slightly garbled, however.

Elizabeth Umfreville's sister, Alice Umfreville, married Simon Furneaux, the grandfather of Lady Alice (Blount) (Stafford) Stury.

I doubt that it is a coincidence that Edith Stourton's daughter, Margaret Beauchamp, married a man descended from the Umfreville family of Devon.

You're probably right to suspect a common connection.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Jan Wolfe

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Jul 11, 2019, 12:26:26 AM7/11/19
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Is the date of the marriage of Edith Stourton and Robert Shottesbrook known? The following Common Pleas suits provide bounds on the date of their marriage:

1415 In Trinity Term, Edith Beauchamp, John Willecotes, and John Stourton sued Thomas Cok, alias Takkeley, of Spellesbery in Oxfordshire, forrester, concerning a debt.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no618/bCP40no618dorses/IMG_1320.htm and http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no618/bCP40no618dorses/IMG_1333.htm

1416 In Easter Term, Robert Shotesbroke and his wife Edith, alias Edith Beauchamp, John Willecotes, and John Stourton sued Thomas Takkeley, alias Cok, of Dycheley, ploughman, concerning a debt.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no621/bCP40no621dorses/IMG_0940.htm

Thus it appears that Edith and Robert were married between June 1415 and May 1416.

celticp...@gmail.com

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Jul 11, 2019, 4:07:44 PM7/11/19
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Dear Jan ~

Thanks for posting the Common Pleas lawsuits for Edith (Stourton) Beauchamp and her 2nd husband, Sir Robert Shottesbrook. Much appreciated. The two lawsuits you've cited narrow the date of the marriage of Edith Stourton and Sir Robert Shottesbrook.

There is actually another lawsuit dated Trinity term 1415 involving Edith (Stourton) Beauchamp, later Shottesbrook. The lawsuit involves the same people as the lawsuit you reported for this year. Below is an abstract:

In Trinity term 1415 his widow, Edith, John Willecotes, and John Stourton sued Thomas Cok alias Takkeley, of Spelsbury, Oxfordshire, forester, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £10.

Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/618, image 1320d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no618/bCP40no618dorses/IMG_1320.htm).

For interest's sake, I've copied below my current file account of Edith Stourton (died 1441), wife successively of John Beauchamp, Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Beauchamp of Bletsoe, and Robert Shottesbrook, Knt.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City Utah

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1. JOHN BEAUCHAMP, Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Beauchamp of Bletsoe, of Bletsoe and Keysoe, Bedfordshire, Bloxham, Oxfordshire, Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, and Ashmore, Dorset, son and heir, born 1 August 1384 (aged 21 on 1 August 1405). He married (1st) shortly before 23 Jan. 1405/6 MARGARET HOLAND, daughter of John Holand, Knt., of Thorpe Waterville and Achurch (both in Thorpe Achurch), Chelveston and Caldecote, Northamptonshire, Dalbury Lees, Derbyshire, and Breightmet (in Bolton-le-Moors), Golborne, Haydock (in Winwick), Over Darwen, and Torrisholme, Lancashire, etc., by his 2nd wife, Margaret [see HOLAND 12.ii for her ancestry]. They had no issue. He had livery of his lands 24 Nov. 1406. In 1407 he attempted unsuccessfully to present to the church of Ashmore, Dorset. He married (2nd) before 1410 EDITH STOURTON, daughter of John Stourton, Knt., of Stourton, Wiltshire, Escheator of Somerset and Dorset, presumably by his 2nd wife, Alice. They had one son, John, and one daughter, Margaret. He was never summoned to Parliament. In 1411 he sued William Bateman and John Bere in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Bletsoe, Bedfordshire. The same year he sued Richard Haule and John Haule in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Bloxham, Oxforshire. SIR JOHN BEAUCHAMP died 13 April 1412. He left a will dated 21 Feb. 1411/12, proved 10 Dec. 1414 (P.C.C. 30 Marche). In Trinity term 1415 his widow, Edith, John Willecotes, and John Stourton sued Thomas Cok alias Takkeley, of Spelsbury, Oxfordshire, forester, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £10. His widow, Edith, married (2nd) before Easter term 1416 (date of lawsuit) ROBERT SHOTTESBROOK (or SHOTESBROK), Knt., of Faringdon, Compton Beauchamp, and West Woodhay, etc., Berkshire, King’s esquire, King’s knight, Knight of the Shire for Berkshire, 1423–4, 1433, 1439–40, Sheriff of Wiltshire, 1423–4, Knight of the Shire for Wiltshire, 1426, Justice of the Peace for Berkshire, 1432–58, and, in right of his 1st wife, of Ashmore, Dorset, Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, etc., younger son of Gilbert Shottesbrook, of Ordeston (in Ashbury), Bedfordshire, by Elizabeth, daughter and co-heiress of Vivian de Staundon, of Standon and Fenton Vivian, Staffordshire. They had one daughter, Eleanor. He served Kings Henry V and Henry VI in France. In 1416 Robert and Edith his wife, alias Edith Beauchamp, John Willecotes, and John Stourton sued Thomas Takkeley, alias Thomas Cok, of Ditchley, Oxfordshire, ploughman, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £10. He was a legatee in the 1420 will of Roger Salvayn, Knt. He was granted letters of attorney in 1421, he then going abroad. In 1424 William Kent, Citizen and tanner of London, and another sued Robert Shotesbrok, Knt., of Lydiard, Wiltshire, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of 50 marks. In 1425 John Mitchell and Alice his wife, Alice, conveyed land in Badbury and Badbury Wick (in Chiseldon), Wiltshire to Robert and Edith his wife. He presented to the church of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire in 1430 and 1431. He had confirmation of a pension of 50 marks in 1431. In 1432 he was sent to negotiate with Denmark and the Hanse. In 1433 William Beauchamp, Knt., and Elizabeth his wife granted him the manor and advowson of the church of West Woodhay, Berkshire, together with one messuage and lands in Holt (in Kintbury) and Kintbury, Berkshire, and four messuages and lands in Swampton (in St. Mary Bourne), Hampshire. The same year the king commited the manor of Orston, Nottinghamshire to him, to hold during the minority of Thomas son and heir of Thomas Roos, Knt. In 1435 he went to Burgundy to negotiate a trade agreement between Calais and Flanders. The same year he was sent to treat for peace at Arras. He served as a feoffee of the Stourton family in 1435. His wife, Edith, died 13 June 1441. He was dispatched again on an embassy to the Hanse in 1448. Sir Robert married (2nd) before 12 July 1448 (date of recognizance) ISABEL WILCOTES_____, widow of John Barton the younger (died testate 31 Jan. 1434), of Thornton and Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, Steward of St. Albans Abbey, 1408–29, Knight of the Shire for Buckinghamshire, 1414, 1417, 1419, 1422, 1423, and daughter of William Wilcotes, of North Leigh, Oxfordshire, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of John Trillow, Knt. They had no issue. In 1448 he and Isabel his wife conveyed the manor of Stone, Buckinghamshire to Robert Whittingham, Knt. In 1449 he was sent on another mission to the King of Denmark. In 1455 he and Isabel his wife, were granted a papal indult for a portable altar. His wife, Isabel, died in 1456, and was buried in Thornton, Buckinghamshire by her 1st husband. In 1467 he sued John Roger and Margaret his wife for lands in Purton, Wiltshire. SIR ROBERT SHOTTESBROOK died before 3 July 1474.

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Jan Wolfe

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Jul 11, 2019, 7:25:35 PM7/11/19
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The two 1415 suits appear to be the same case. Douglas, the suit you noted is the first of the two I cited. The only difference I noted in the 1415 suits is in the statement about the next step at the end of the cases. The 1416 suit appears to be about the same debt but the defendant's location and occupation have a different description (the places Spelsbury and Ditchley are only 3 miles apart).

Thanks for posting your current bio of Edith Stourton. It will be interesting if more can be discovered about her ancestry.
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