CP correction maybe? Was re. Louvain, Basset, Hastings doubts

[Andrew Lancaster via]

Again thanks to taf and John Watson

John: Yes, for the death 1210, Clarence-Smith cites the Pipe Rolls, PRS
26 NS, p.35.

Taf: "I would not put my position that strong without reading or
rereading the scholarly underpinnings of the 'preferred' version and
C-S's alternative. I would say that anyone who draws a conclusion based
solely on landholding (as opposed to documented inheritance) without
taking the possibility of enfeoffment into account, has left a
noteworthy gap in their analysis."

Yes, but the snippets of evidence are small and the argument seems
simple. He says CP asserts it was a free marriage when it was not. And
then secondly he points to the clear evidence for an enfeoffed heiress
being bought by the Bassets. "[Ralph] was dead by Michaelmas 1210,
leaving a daughter under age whose custody and marriage had been granted
to Alan Bassett for 100 marks. It is not therefore surprising to find at
the death of Sir Philip Basset of Wycombe, younger son of this Alan, in
1271, that he held under Sir Matthew de Lovaine the manor of Wix 'by
courtesy of England of the inheritance of Helewisia his wife'."

Clarence Smith J. A., (1966), "Hastings of Little Easton (part 1)",
Transactions of the Essex Archaeological Society. Vol. 2, Part 1.

For the information at the death of Philip Basset, IPM 56 H3, Calendar
I, No. 807, p.273

He names the place in CP and gives a clear argument:
"G. W. Watson in the article on Despenser in the Complete Peerage, IV,
p.261, says that Sir Hugh Despenser married "Aline, da. & h. of Sir
Philip Basset of Wycombe, Bucks.... by his first wife Wawise, da. of Sir
Matthew de Lonavine of Little Easton, Essex," to which is appended a
footnote: "She had, in free marriage, the manor of Wix, Essex, by the
service of 20s. a year. Some genealogists say that she was da. of John
de Grey of Eaton, Bucks." Her fathering on Sir Matthew de Lovaine has no
other support than the quite unwarranted assumption that she held Wix in
free marriage: in fact she held it by inheritance as the Inquisition
specifies, and Sir Matthew was her overlord but not her father."

Best Regards
Andrew