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cititzi baaa, sa va mai cultivatzi, aaaaa ? /Imagine how Christians would have reacted had FDR taken to declaring Franco's Spain and Mussolini's Italy "Christo-fascist."

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vanghele

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Aug 25, 2006, 5:43:20 PM8/25/06
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September 11, 2006 Issue
Copyright © 2006 The American Conservative

Fascists Under the Bed

by Patrick J. Buchanan


"President Likens Dewey to Hitler as Fascist Tool."

So ran the New York Times headline, Oct. 26, 1948, after what Dewey
biographer Richard Norton Smith called a "particularly vitriolic
attack in Chicago" by Harry Truman.

What brings this to mind is President Bush's assertion that we are
"at war with Islamic fascism" and "Islamofascism."

After the transatlantic bomb plot was smashed, Bush said the plotters
"try to spread their jihadist message-a message I call, it's
totalitarian in nature-Islamic radicalism, Islamic fascism, they try
to spread it as well by taking the attack to those of us who love
freedom."

What is wrong with the term Islamofascism?

First, there is no consensus as to what "fascism" even means.
Orwell said when someone calls Smith a fascist, what he means is, "I
hate Smith. " By calling Smith a fascist, you force Smith to deny
he's a sympathizer of Hitler and Mussolini.

As a concept, writes Arnold Beichman of the Hoover Institution,
"fascism ... has no intellectual basis; its founders did not even
pretend to have any. Hitler's ravings in Mein Kampf ... Mussolini's
boastful balcony speeches, all can be described, in the words of Roger
Scruton, as 'an amalgam of disparate conceptions.'"

Richard Pipes considers Stalinism and Hilterism to be siblings of the
same birth mother: "Bolshevism and fascism were heresies of
socialism."

Since the 1930s, "fascist" has been a term of hate and abuse used
by the Left against the Right, as in the Harry Truman campaign. In
1964, Martin Luther King Jr. claimed to see in the Goldwater campaign
"dangerous signs of Hitlerism." Twin the words, "Reagan,
fascism" in Google and 1,800,000 references pop up.

Unsurprisingly, it is neoconservatives, whose roots are in the
Trotskyist-Social Democratic Left, who are promoting use of the term.
Their goal is to have Bush stuff al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, and
Iran into an "Islamofascist" kill box, then let SAC do the rest.

The term represents the same lazy, shallow thinking that got us into
Iraq, where Americans were persuaded that by dumping over Saddam, we
were avenging 9/11.

But Saddam was about as devout a practitioner of Islam as his idol
Stalin was of the Russian Orthodox faith. Saddam was into booze,
mistresses, movies, monuments, palaces, and dynasty. Bin Laden loathed
him and volunteered to fight him in 1991, if Saudi Arabia would only
not bring the Americans in to do the fighting Islamic warriors ought to
be doing themselves.

And whatever "Islamofascism" means, Syria surely is not it. It is a
secular dictatorship Bush I bribed into becoming an ally in the Gulf
War. The Muslim Brotherhood is outlawed in Syria. In 1982, Hafez
al-Assad perpetrated a massacre of the Brotherhood in the city of Hama
that was awesome in its magnitude and horror.

As with Khaddafi, whom Bush let out of the penalty box after he agreed
to pay $10 million to the family of each victim of Pan Am 103 and give
up his nuclear program, America can deal with Syria, as Israel did
after the Yom Kippur War-for an armistice on the Golan has stuck, as
both sides have kept the deal.

America faces a variety of adversaries, enemies, and evils. But the
Bombs-Away Caucus, as Iraq and Lebanon reveal, does not always have the
right formula. Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran all present
separate challenges calling forth different responses.

Al-Qaeda appears to exist for one purpose: plot and perpetrate mass
murder to terrorize Americans and Europeans into getting out of the
Islamic world. Contrary to what Bush believes, the 9/11 killers and
London and Madrid bombers were not out to repeal the Bill of Rights, if
any ever read it. They are out to kill us and we have to get them
first.

Hamas and Hezbollah have used terrorism, but like Begin's Irgun and
Mandela's ANC, they have social and political agendas that require
state power to implement. And once a guerrilla/terrorist movement takes
over a state, it acquires state assets and interests that are then
vulnerable to the U.S. military and economic power.

Why did the Ayatollah let the American hostages go, as Reagan raised
his right hand to take the oath? Why has Syria not come to the rescue
of Hezbollah? Why has Ahmadinejad not rocketed Tel Aviv in solidarity
with his embattled allies in Lebanon? Res ipsa loquitur. The thing
speaks for itself. They don't want war with Israel; they don't want
war with the United States.

"Islamofascism" should be jettisoned from Bush's vocabulary. It
yokes the faith of a billion people with an odious ideology. Imagine
how Christians would have reacted had FDR taken to declaring Franco's
Spain and Mussolini's Italy "Christo-fascist."

If Mr. Bush does not want a war of civilizations, he will drop these
propaganda terms that are designed to inflame passions rather than
inform the public of the nature of the war we are in.

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iea sa va vaz, cu ce ieshitzi !

IdahOOOOOianu

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Aug 26, 2006, 1:11:50 AM8/26/06
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> iea sa va vaz, cu ce ieshitzi !

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttzzzzzzzzz!! LOL si buhaha

vanghele

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:41:10 AM8/26/06
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bine zis....gogutza ! numa ooooo fara putza.

IdahOOOOOianu

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:18:27 PM8/26/06
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vanghele wrote:
> IdahOOOOOianu wrote:
> > vanghele wrote:

> > > iea sa va vaz, cu ce ieshitzi !

> > Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttzzzzzzzzz!! LOL si buhaha
>
> bine zis....gogutza ! numa ooooo fara putza.


Taci bre, ca io numa il imitam pe pretinu matale si secerenilor, numa
asa de pamplezir, sa nu-l uitati.
Auzi, da di ce zici ca n-am putza? De-l pun pe gog linga coaile-mi,
gata aparatul sexual.

vanghele

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:22:24 PM8/26/06
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adica pula bleaga, aaaaa ?!

IdahOOOOOianu

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:24:52 PM8/26/06
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vanghele wrote:

> adica pula bleaga, aaaaa ?!

Ce urit ai zis de gogu! Sa vezi ce se supara pe matale si zice si el
ceva urit de (p)bula.

vanghele

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:27:14 PM8/26/06
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Io n'am zis da gogul, ci da aparatu matale sexsoal, adhoc. :0)

IdahOOOOOianu

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:31:08 PM8/26/06
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Pai io la aparatu meu sexsula ii zic gog. Mata de care vorbsti, de
pretinu mata, sau de gogu meu de linga coile-mi?

vanghele

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:36:23 PM8/26/06
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bagi zazanie, aaaaaa ? te raspopishi si mata ?!

pro...@hotmail.com

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:58:52 PM8/26/06
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vanghele wrote:

N'ai zas ad-hoc'~ai, ai zas adanc...

IdahOOOOOianu

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Aug 27, 2006, 12:52:54 AM8/27/06
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Ete OOOOO!

IdahOOOOOianu

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Aug 27, 2006, 12:58:42 AM8/27/06
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Io cind aud cuvintul asta, "ADINC", mi-aduc aminte de pizda ma-ti.
Sa-ti traiasca!

pro...@hotmail.com

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Aug 27, 2006, 2:46:07 AM8/27/06
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IdahOOOOOianu wrote:

Ba a ma'ti, ca'i mai grasa. Adica eu iti iau apararea in pula mea si tu
ma iei la gog, aaa?

Adica cipulamie'~ai?

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