Romania Oppressing Hungarians in Transylvania & Moldva
Dr. Rebeca Levy
David Kahane - President
1570 57th Street
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(please archive)
ROMANIA IS BRUTALLY OPPRESSING HUNGARIANS IN TRANSYLVANIA AND MOLDVA
The article in Hungarian at:
http://www.geocities.com/erdelyilobby/klzseiek.htm accounts the BRUTAL
OPPRESSION of Chango Hungarians - around 250,000 - in the beyond
Carpathian Moldva region. In the city of Klezse(Clayja), the use of the
Hungarian language is prohibited in the Roman Catholic church. The priest
although Hungarian origin was brainwashed during his education at the
Romanian State financed seminary and is paid to be the agent of the
oppressor Romanian State to assimilate Hungarians. This is in year 2000!
In the middle of Europe! The Hungarian government is not protesting
because of its rush to EU! The Chango Hungarians are not even allowed to
sing in Hungarian at wakes because if the priest will hear about it, will
not do the funeral.
Bula 00001
That's the truth dottore .
Happy Easter to you !!
And God be with you as long as you speak the truth !! :=0)))
udriste paul
Rebeca, u may join the romanian irc channel ( #romania ) on EFnet...Your
friends are there :))))))
cee ya...
DACIA LAN
>From: "Dr. Rebeca Levy" reb...@sdf.lonestar.org
>Date: 4/29/00 2:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Pine.LNX.4.10.100042...@sdf.lonestar.org>
Dr.Rebeca Levy GO TO HELL TOGETHER WITH HUNGARIANS, GYPSIES AND ALL OF YOUR
JEWISH BASTARDS!!!
ALEXANDRU SOARE
DACIA LAN
>From: "Dr. Rebeca Levy" reb...@sdf.lonestar.org
>Date: 4/29/00 2:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Pine.LNX.4.10.100042...@sdf.lonestar.org>
>THE ASSOCIATION OF JEWISH ROMANIAN AMERICANS
>ROMANIA IS BRUTALLY OPPRESSING HUNGARIANS IN TRANSYLVANIA AND MOLDVA
"DR" LEVY
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPELL MOLDOVA, AND YOU TALK ABOUT THIS GREAT
COUNTRY.
"DR" LEVY, GO TO HELL TOGETHER WITH HUNGARIANS, GYPSIES AND ALL YOUR
JEWISH BASTARDS !!!
HAIL HITLER!
AS, 88
EFF
JEWISH BASTARDS!!!
ALEXANDRU SOARE
Spoken like a true oláh. You people suffer from a terrible
inferiority complex, I must say. If it hadn't been for
Bishop Tökés and his Hungarians, you'd still be kissing
the rear end of that disgusting little slime Ceaucescu.
Consider that.
caligula
know where you pull this mather fucker statisticks from. No body
had ever told in Romania which language you should speak in your
house. But in the street you should speak Romanian. How would
you feel if you as Romanian would go to a Hungarian baker and
try to buy bread and he makes a full out of yourself because he
dosenšt want to speak Romanian?
LONG LIVE ROMANIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE ROMANIAN LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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irgun43
caligula <caligulaz...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:1e1e8434...@usw-ex0101-006.remarq.com...
But in the street you should speak Romanian
Sir,
Street language is my choice, not yours in whatever country i"m in.
You don't have to go to a Hungarian baker.
Nero
Phela la Phela
caligula wrote:
> Dr. Levy, this the bigest bullshiet I had ever heard. I donšt
> know where you pull this mather fucker statisticks from. No body
> had ever told in Romania which language you should speak in your
> house. But in the street you should speak Romanian. How would
> you feel if you as Romanian would go to a Hungarian baker and
> try to buy bread and he makes a full out of yourself because he
> dosenšt want to speak Romanian?
In a way she appear to be fueling a fire. She would like people to
hate each other. That's why she remind every other gruesome detail
by turning the iron over and over in the wound.
She is running noting else than a hate campaign.
Not answering any of of her posts. She might not be a Jew
at all.
Alef
Alef
irgun43
Phela la Phela <alm...@questzones.com> wrote in message
news:390DD3C9...@questzones.com...
> In a way she appear to be fueling a fire. She would like people to
> hate each other. That's why she remind every other gruesome detail
> by turning the iron over and over in the wound.
Sir,
I don't know if those are your real opinions or whether you are a
partisan of the Iron Guard.
Let us assume that those are your honest opinions.
We have a cultural difference. Israel (the people) is a very historical
nation. Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the past is a
"hate " campaign, get used to it.
irgun43
MondoCANada
>Date: 5/1/00 10:25 AM Pacific
> Israel (the people) is a very historical
>nation.
compared with what EXACTLY other <nation>s is <Israel (the people)> a
<very(??!!) historical nation>? You know, my poor fella, it just happens that
once in a while there is quite a difference between HIS(s)tory and hysteria.
Now, obviously, we don't expect any idiot to sense which is what. Nevertheless
your 'contribution' is UNwelcomed on this forum.
> Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
>come up
and what about asking you to spell out YOUR CRIMES? And since you don't, how
come <the sun comes up>??!! Isn't it strange that despite all of YOUR CRIMES
the sun keeps comming up??!!
>We're not going to do it.
we know. And every NONjew on this planet is sick and tired of your stupidity
> If telling the truth about the past is a
>"hate " campaign, get used to it.
NOW AIN'T THAT FUNNY? How dare you, stinky je(W)rk, to even type the word
<truth>? When was the last time you told us you are sorry for YOUR CRIMES? You
don't regret anything, eh? No matter YOUR CRIMES, you guys just keep
complaining...
But the Germany is strong again...
And very soon we'll talk a different language...
And let me tell you something: the sun will keep coming up!
JD
> HAIL ......
Ba dacule incult,
Fara a comenta tīmpenia ce ai scris-o, cel putin nu arata ca esti un idiot
īn limba germana a carei istorii nu o cunosti asa si asa si scrie cuvāntul
corect, mitocanule!
JD (in moment īn Emirate/Dubai)
Bula 00001
>From: "irgun43" irg...@slip.net
>Date: 5/1/00 1:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <sgrfch2...@corp.supernews.com>
>
>
>Phela la Phela <alm...@questzones.com> wrote in message
>news:390DD3C9...@questzones.com...
>> In a way she appear to be fueling a fire. She would like people to
>> hate each other. That's why she remind every other gruesome detail
>> by turning the iron over and over in the wound.
>
>Sir,
> I don't know if those are your real opinions or whether you are a
>partisan of the Iron Guard.
> Let us assume that those are your honest opinions.
>nation. Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
>come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the past is a
>"hate " campaign, get used to it.
My God, how right you are !!
Remeber those therorists who have done so much damage to my nation : Karl Marx,
Volodia Ulianov Lenin, Felix Edmundovitch
Dzerzsinsky, Ana Pauker, Teohari Georgescu, Grunberg Nikolski, Florescu
Blumenfeld, Valter Roman, Leonte Rautu and many, many more ?
And all those Jewish comunist gangs attacking troops of the Romanian Royal
Army in their own country, Bessarabia, while their forcefuly withdrawal in
1940?
WE are a HISTORICAL nation too and WE can't forget and forgive when people that
WE help turn against US .
And which Nation isn't a historical one ?
All the best.
Bula
A666Z2000
>Felix Edmundovitch
>Dzerzsinsky
> Teohari Georgescu,
Cred ca ar trebui sa te mai documentezi in legatura cu astia doi.
EU VOTEZ LUCIAN ORASEL PRESEDINTE!
MondoCANada
>From: bula...@aol.com (Bula 00001)
>My God, how right you are !!
>Remeber those therorists who have done so much damage to my nation : Karl
>Marx,
>Volodia Ulianov Lenin, Felix Edmundovitch
>Dzerzsinsky, Ana Pauker, Teohari Georgescu, Grunberg Nikolski, Florescu
>Blumenfeld, Valter Roman, Leonte Rautu and many, many more ?
bravos bulake! Mi-am luat un nou SN si inca n-am apucat sa te bag pe filtru.
Apreciez patriotismul matale, dar cand nu vorBELESTI franceza pleeeez don't you
try to 'exprim' matale in engleza. Ai atat de multe greseli ca orice jidoavca
te poate umili (si per buna drieptate). Dar io totusi apreciez inceputul
postingului:
>who have done so much damage to my nation : Karl Marx,
>Volodia Ulianov Lenin, Felix Edmundovitch
>Dzerzsinsky, Ana Pauker, Teohari Georgescu, Grunberg Nikolski, Florescu
>Blumenfeld, Valter Roman, Leonte Rautu
sanatate maxima!
Archivist4
>Date: 05/01/2000 10:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <sgrfch2...@corp.supernews.com>
> We have a cultural difference. Israel (the people) is a very historical
nation.
Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
>come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the past is a
>"hate " campaign, get used to it.
Sir if you don't like to forget, than how come the Israeli go how come the
Israeli Government for over 10 years they are trying to convince -- at the
Turkish request -- the American congress that our Genocide didn't happen. For
your information Sir - and the Israeli government -- in our genocide over 1.5
million people they been killed. EVER HITLER MENTIONED ABOUT OUR GENOCIDE.
spa...@my-deja.com
mondo...@aol.com (MondoCANada) wrote:
> >Subject: Re: Romania Oppressing Hungarians in Transylvania & Moldva
> >From: bula...@aol.com (Bula 00001)
>
> >My God, how right you are !!
> >Remeber those therorists who have done so much damage to my nation :
Karl
> >Marx,
> >Volodia Ulianov Lenin, Felix Edmundovitch
> >Dzerzsinsky, Ana Pauker, Teohari Georgescu, Grunberg Nikolski,
Florescu
> >Blumenfeld, Valter Roman, Leonte Rautu and many, many more ?
>
> bravos bulake! Mi-am luat un nou SN si inca n-am apucat sa te bag pe
filtru.
> Apreciez patriotismul matale, dar cand nu vorBELESTI franceza pleeeez
don't you
> try to 'exprim' matale in engleza. Ai atat de multe greseli ca orice
jidoavca
> te poate umili (si per buna drieptate).
baiatu respectiv. matale ai o englezo-romana ( o fi un nou dialect
romanesc, ca megleno-romana, macedo-romana etc? ) care suna la fel de
nasol ca romaneasca lui de baicoi, asa ca pana nu-ti corectezi matale
ticurile ( or fi numai ticuri? ca io cunosc pe unu care are patru ani
in america si pretinde ca a uitat muuulte cuvinte in romaneste, de aia
se exprima juma in engleza, da in rest e baiat bun, da il iau astilalti
la misto cu dealectu lui, da el crede ca e mai interesant asa si da
bine la fimeile abia sosite pa aici), ziceam , deci, corecteaza-ti mata
ticu (ca sa nu-i zic snobism) cu engleza si dupa aia fute-l pe bula .
sanatate si virtute .
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"irgun43" <irg...@slip.net> wrote:
>
> Phela la Phela <alm...@questzones.com> wrote in message
> news:390DD3C9...@questzones.com...
> > In a way she appear to be fueling a fire. She would like people to
> > hate each other. That's why she remind every other gruesome detail
> > by turning the iron over and over in the wound.
>
> Sir,
> I don't know if those are your real opinions or whether you are a
> partisan of the Iron Guard.
> Let us assume that those are your honest opinions.
historical
> nation. Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not
to
> come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the
past is a
> "hate " campaign, get used to it.
>
sir, sugi pula. you are a very stupid guy ( or gay? ). that's all.
nothing more, just the emptyness in your fuckin head. i bet my ass
against your tongue you are so stupid you can't make the difference
between my dick and your daily lolipop, you little retarded bitch. and
everybody knows you are a crossdresser, and you will fuck your ass for
five dollars and a joint.so, go fuck yourself, you little shity head,
stop talking about things you dont have any idea about and, most of
all, stop posting on this ng. this is for honest people, not homosexual
punks like you and your momma, madam levy. clear? you dont know our
language, we dont give a fuck about your opinion. muie cu cacat,
prostalaule, in pizda ma-ti de jidan borat.
gogu
Ο "Archivist4" <archi...@aol.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
news:20000502004551...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
> >From: "irgun43" irg...@slip.net
> >Date: 05/01/2000 10:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <sgrfch2...@corp.supernews.com>
>
historical
> nation.
>
>
> Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
> >come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the past is
a
> >"hate " campaign, get used to it.
>
> Israeli Government for over 10 years they are trying to convince -- at the
> Turkish request -- the American congress that our Genocide didn't happen.
For
> your information Sir - and the Israeli government -- in our genocide over
1.5
> million people they been killed. EVER HITLER MENTIONED ABOUT OUR
GENOCIDE.
Stai linistit Mike ca guvernul Israelian e pe 'ci sa recunoasca genocidiul
Armenilor. Chiar pina in Iunie. Si de asta Turcii au inceput sa faca
spume:-) Daca ai putea vedea ce scriu ziarele lor, te ai cruci...
Sanatate.
Phela la Phela
irgun43 wrote:
> Phela la Phela <alm...@questzones.com> wrote in message
> news:390DD3C9...@questzones.com...
> > In a way she appear to be fueling a fire. She would like people to
> > hate each other. That's why she remind every other gruesome detail
> > by turning the iron over and over in the wound.
>
> Sir,
> I don't know if those are your real opinions or whether you are a
> partisan of the Iron Guard.
> Let us assume that those are your honest opinions.
> We have a cultural difference. Israel (the people) is a very historical
> nation. Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
> come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the past is a
> "hate " campaign, get used to it.
> irgun43
I am all for the truth to be exposed, but in this case she
seem to be over doing it.
And I am not member of any Iron Guard.
For whatever that could be.
I am all for leveling scores on all side and peace on
earth for the man of good will.
But we all know that this won't happen, because there is
promoter of injustice and violence on both side.
Alef
MondoCANada
>sanatate si virtute .
merci de urare. Se intampla doar ca nu-s convins ca vei fi la fel de geneROS cu
urarile dupa ce vei afla ca exista (s)oarece diferente ('ideotologice'?) intre
noi:
1. ma cac in laringele lui vaDIM TU(RNAT)dOR, al carui soldatel se pare ca
esti;
2. Eu n-am nimic cu evreii si ungurii in general. Eu am prieteni evrei si
unguri cu care, printre altele, comentez si postingurile mele la o cafelutza
dreasa cu coniac. Dar sunt anumite elemente denaturate (in solda Masoneriei)
care se screm sa faca valuri pe SCR in acest an electoral pt. ca au fost
platiti sa semene ura intre romani pe de-o parte si romani si minoritati pe
'ailalalta MUchIE'. Acestor jigodii le trebuie data muie cu toptanul
Tu nu pari a fi un dobitoc, deci lasa-ma sa trag concluziunea ca relatia ta cu
WCT si RM e justifica(ca)ta doar de ratiuni financiare, si nicidecum
ideologice. Poate ei ti-au platit masterul in US (am spus "Poate" dintr-o
fireasca decenta, io's 99% convins ca asa a fost). Pt. ca un om capabil sa lege
2 litere nu poate fi soldatelul lui vaDIM C(omunist) T(urnator)...
Esti intr-o situatziune delikata, eh? Cum dracu sa spui ca de fapt ti-e greatza
de WCT si RM cand de fapt ei iti platesc chiria?! Have you ever heard (ca tot
mi-ai precizat ca ma adori cand le amestec) 'BOUt "asa s-a calit otelul"?
keep up the good (home)work!
Bula 00001
>Date: 5/1/00 10:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000501225633...@ng-fz1.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: Re: Romania Oppressing Hungarians in Transylvania & Moldva
>
>>My God, how right you are !!
>>Remeber those therorists who have done so much damage to my nation : Karl
>>Marx,
>>Volodia Ulianov Lenin, Felix Edmundovitch
>>Dzerzsinsky, Ana Pauker, Teohari Georgescu, Grunberg Nikolski, Florescu
>>Blumenfeld, Valter Roman, Leonte Rautu and many, many more ?
>
>bravos bulake! Mi-am luat un nou SN si inca n-am apucat sa te bag pe filtru.
Hu givs a shit of yu ?
Yu du oaci' yu oant. Stil a fri cantri hia'.
>Apreciez patriotismul matale
io nu apreciez ca tu apreciezi
>vorBELESTI franceza
veeeeeriiiii faaaaniiiii !!!!!
imi place jocu tau da glezne mai dihai ca ala din cuvinte :))
> Ai atat de multe greseli ca orice jidoavca
>te poate umili (si per buna drieptate). Dar io totusi apreciez inceputul
>postingului:
numi pasa da pina una alta tu faci spume da oftica ca nu tia raspuns cit daspre
ingleza cio dazvalui cu tziriita laso mai(draga)jos ca macane. Sper cai
invatzato pa terasa dala Capsa (!) printe 2 linsaturi da bere sio pagina din
Cioran.:))
Saltare
Un admirator alu P Ispirescu si Anton Pan
BARONU Bula
PS ramine valabel ce tzia zis pretenu Aschiuta.
Alt PS Mai dute sin p**a calului !!!
Bula 00001
>Date: 5/2/00 5:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8em5rn$iqv$1...@newssrv.otenet.gr>
>
>
>Ο "Archivist4" <archi...@aol.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
>news:20000502004551...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
>> >From: "irgun43" irg...@slip.net
>> >Date: 05/01/2000 10:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: <sgrfch2...@corp.supernews.com>
>>
>historical
>> nation.
>>
>>
>> Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
>> >come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the past is
>a
>> >"hate " campaign, get used to it.
>>
>> Israeli Government for over 10 years they are trying to convince -- at the
>> Turkish request -- the American congress that our Genocide didn't happen.
>For
>> your information Sir - and the Israeli government -- in our genocide over
>1.5
>> million people they been killed. EVER HITLER MENTIONED ABOUT OUR
>GENOCIDE.
>
>
>Stai linistit Mike ca guvernul Israelian e pe 'ci sa recunoasca genocidiul
>Armenilor. Chiar pina in Iunie. Si de asta Turcii au inceput sa faca
>spume:-) Daca ai putea vedea ce scriu ziarele lor, te ai cruci...
>Sanatate.
Ba gogutza iesti naiv puiule tu nu sti inca ca ce zice guvernu izraielesc pa
linie kushera nu conteaza ca cuvintu vine dala nyu iork dala congresu mondeal
??!
Saltare
Baronu
bro...@my-deja.com
cu care s-a raspuns, cānd era asa de usor de demontat tāmpenia doamnei
fara a da in extreme
2/ mai bulache, pari baiat cu oaresce urme de creier, cum te simti cānd
te tot linge-n cur unul ca spataru' ?
bro...@my-deja.com
hungarian pope oppressing other hungarians in a romanian village,
what's your evergreen doing here ?
are you surfing the net to answer to every antisemitic idiot ? save
your energy for better things
bye
MondoCANada
>From: bula...@aol.com (Bula 00001)
>numi pasa da pina una alta tu faci spume da oftica ca nu tia raspuns
deci dupa ce termin de vazut "Who wants to be a Millionaire" dau o (v) rOaita
pe internet inainte sa plec la Ritz in downtown sa ma intalnesc cu Bill Gates
[m-a implorat mititelul sa-l stric la pont, (k)AKA sa-i exPLIC cum sa iasa din
cacat). Si iete ce-mi vad dioptriile:
>numi pasa da pina una alta tu faci spume da oftica ca nu tia raspuns
CINE, dom'le nu mi-a raspuns?! Mi-am stors 2 lamai intre amigdale ca sa-ti
rascitesc textul, dar tot n-am priceput ce raspuns asteptam eu. In mod normal
ar trebui sa te iau drept un cacialmist care se amuza ca mi-a rapit cateva
minute din pretiosu-mi timp, dar amintindu-mi de subnutritu-ti IQ ma gandesc ca
tu poate chiar ai vrut sa spui ceva care mie imi scapa.Spune-mi coane si mie AL
CUI raspuns il asteptam?
>pa terasa dala Capsa (!) printe 2 linsaturi da bere sio pagina din
>Cioran.:))
hahahaha!! C'mon man, tell me wadda fuck answer I was waiting for? Daca ma
dumi(t)resti iti spun de ce mi-a placut "Insinguratul" lui Ionesco
gogu
news:8eo3b4$k8l$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> you're really paranoid - this was a (stupid) discussion about a
> hungarian pope oppressing other hungarians in a romanian village,
> what's your evergreen doing here ?
>
> are you surfing the net to answer to every antisemitic idiot ? save
> your energy for better things
If you are talking to me my dear friend bronc, I was just trying to give our
Romanian friend Mike some news that he maybe was not aware of. That's all...
And I don't think that Mike is an anti-Semitic... At least that's what I
thought... But if you are not talking to me, well, forgive me I was jumpy...
gogu
PS
Thanks for making me "paranoid"...
> bye
>
gogu
news:20000502211905...@ng-cm1.aol.com...
>
> Sper cai
> invatzato pa terasa dala Capsa (!) printe 2 linsaturi da bere sio pagina
din
> Cioran.:))
Bulache, voi doi poate le aveti pe ale voastre de rezolvat, dar io as vrea
sa te intreb ceva. De cind bre Capsa are (a avut) o terasa??? Cit timp am
stat io in Romania, Capsa era un fel de cantina pt mine: prinz si seara (de
obicei...) mincam acolo. Il mai tii minte pe nea Leonidas sefu de salon sau
pe nea Petrica portaru?... Ma rog... Deci eu fro 5-6 ani cit am stat in
Romania n-am observat fro terasa Capsa! Poti sa ma iluminezi? Braserie, da.
Terasa?
Hai noroc
PS
Si ca sa nu ma interpretezi (iar...) gresit, iti spun ca eu n-am avut
intilniri cu oameni savanti in Capsa! Cel mult stateam la masa cu prieteni
sau cu fro blonda!
spa...@my-deja.com
mondo...@aol.com (MondoCANada) wrote:
> >Subject: Re: Romania Oppressing Hungarians in Transylvania & Moldva
>
> >sanatate si virtute .
>
> merci de urare. Se intampla doar ca nu-s convins ca vei fi la fel de
geneROS cu
> urarile dupa ce vei afla ca exista (s)oarece diferente
('ideotologice'?) intre
> noi:
carpati cand am facut parte din armata comandantului suprem, de atunci
nu am mai luat decat bursa, ajutor de somaj, ceingi dolari si salariu.
> 1. ma cac in laringele lui vaDIM TU(RNAT)dOR, al carui soldatel se
pare ca
> esti;
sau pe Buda, da daca laringele lu vadim iti face anusu mai pufos, feel
free to do it, ptiu, ca m-am molipsit, bagami-as , de anglo-romana da
cuinz.
> 2. Eu n-am nimic cu evreii si ungurii in general. Eu am prieteni
evrei si
> unguri
best friends are black, but bla bla bla..." cu care, printre altele,
comentez si postingurile mele la o cafelutza
> dreasa cu coniac.
tigara, un batic peste bigudiuri, fo trei patru prietene si ziua-i gata
iar lumea pusa la cale.
Dar sunt anumite elemente denaturate (in solda Masoneriei)
> care se screm sa faca valuri pe SCR in acest an electoral pt. ca au
fost
> platiti sa semene ura intre romani pe de-o parte si romani si
minoritati pe
> 'ailalalta MUchIE'.
numa solde, masonerii, care cum mananca cacat musai trebuie unu sa-l
plateasca pentru ineptiile pe care le zice. ai citit prea mult curutz
sau e un tic creat de egocentrismul tau care te face sa crezi ca
soarele nu rasare daca nu te pisi dimineatza si toti sant ca tine? io
inclin sa cred ca cafelutza e prea tare sau coniacu e dres ori
bigudiurile te jeneaza cand dormi si-ti vin idei da astea estrabagante.
Acestor jigodii le trebuie data muie cu toptanul
proasta.
> Tu nu pari a fi un dobitoc,
deci lasa-ma sa trag concluziunea ca relatia ta cu
> WCT si RM e justifica(ca)ta doar de ratiuni financiare, si nicidecum
> ideologice. Poate ei ti-au platit masterul in US (am spus "Poate"
dintr-o
> fireasca decenta, io's 99%
convins ca asa a fost)
sa nu joci pocher niciodata cu vecinele, ecaterino, ca te fac catzele
la parale. n-ai ghicit. mi se rupe de vadim, desi o seama din ideile
lui le impartasesc. da nu pot uita cum am luat un sut in cur de la un
senator sau deputat de-a lui, ce mama dracu o fi, nu zic cine, cand
zbieram pe malu bahluiului muie lu ilici. a oprit o dacie neagra din
care a coborat un omulet urat si cu gusa si fara sa zica nimic, zang,
un sut in cur de-am zis ca m-o palit marfaru.io stiam cine-i si dau sa
i-o intorc de belea pula daca puneam mana pe gusa lui, da numa ce-o
aparut din masina trei malaci si asta face " ba puneti mana pe
derbedeu, futu-i gura mami lui, asta nu mai termina facultatea". io
cand am auzit asta si i-am vazut pe aia trei ca se repezeau sa-mi futa
una, in secunda doi eram la vreo trei sute de metri, ca omuletu ala cu
gusa era pretin cu toti profanii de la mine. asta-i un motiv. al doilea
ar fi ca nu-mi place poezia naiva in care se zice ca "vadim susura
paraiele, vadim urla lupii, vadim mugesc muntii, vadim e erou lu
peste." si nici odele inchinate lu ceasca.
. Pt. ca un om capabil sa lege
> 2 litere
cum numa doua, ia uite ce mult am scris, elisaveto.
nu poate fi soldatelul lui vaDIM C(omunist) T(urnator)...
lasa, bre, ca sant altii cu pacate muuult mai mari, sa nu-l uiti pe
tzap si pe ilici, astia au mai si furat cu miliardele da dolarei,
tantzo.
> Esti intr-o situatziune delikata, eh? Cum dracu sa spui ca de fapt ti-
e greatza
> de WCT si RM cand de fapt ei iti platesc chiria?!
n-ar fi rau daca ar cotiza si vadim la chirie, ba poa sa dea s-o bere,
numa sa-si lase calaii acasa. ce ai vrea sa-mi lase gura apa can aud de
udemere si pntcd? in fapt mi-e scarba ( vorba lu dom milica,
presedintele tau) de toti magarii astia, de aia nu pot sa zbier muie lu
vadim, ar fi nedrept sa fie pomenit numai el cand toate animalele care
dorm pe la parlament si guvern sant mai rele decat rm.
Have you ever heard (ca tot
> mi-ai precizat ca ma adori
te iubesc cu toate resursele mele, tanzo, ami ales cand te dai asa
barbatoasa
cand le amestec
)ce vorbesti tu? atuncea si mai tare, daca torni mai mult, chit ca
adoua zi ma dore dovleacu
'BOUt "asa s-a calit otelul"?
ce calit otelu, bre catinca, am auzit de belit mielu, io cu cine votez,
fa, ca am fost tata facultatea membru (sau organ?) a studentimii
taraniste, am lipit afise cu milica de am facut bataturi in palma ca de
la laba, am zbierat la tote mitingurile, m-am imbatat la tate
chermezele lor, am dat mana cu milica de fiecare data can a manacat
cacat pe la iasi si am fost aproape de coma da bere cand fraieru a
castigat alegereli, fa, smarando, si a trebiut s-o rad din ROMANIA,
caterino, ca se facu-se naspa de tot, nici la valuta in piata nu mai
mergea, brandusho, se facuse nasol tareeeeeeee, ca sa nu mai spunem ce
jale e acu in tzara. mai da-l in gatzii mami lui amenintzate de idiot
mincinos, muie lui.
> keep up the good (home)work!
la' ca merge treaba. sa-uzim numa de bine, magdaleno, te astept la o
cafelutz cu coneac.
Tzandarica
In article <8epcsn$s5r$1...@newssrv.otenet.gr>, "gogu" pontificheaza:
>"Bula 00001" <bula...@aol.com> Yγραψε στο μ νυμα
>news:20000502211905...@ng-cm1.aol.com...
>>
>> Sper cai
>> invatzato pa terasa dala Capsa (!) printe 2 linsaturi da bere sio pagina
>din
>> Cioran.:))
>
>Bulache, voi doi poate le aveti pe ale voastre de rezolvat, dar io as vrea
>sa te intreb ceva. De cind bre Capsa are (a avut) o terasa???
Buuuuuuna intrebarea!!! Dar mai buna e: oare ce inseamna acel (!) intre
paranteze?
PS: Dle Iacomi, ce-am facut, pleonasm sau redundanta?
gogu
news:20000504002118...@nso-cj.aol.com...
Nu stiu! Intreaba-l pe Bula:-) Mie totusi nu-mi a raspuns:-((( Bula
nepoliticosu...
Dar ca sa nu ma intrebi si pa mine de parenteza mea (!) iti spun daca nu te
ai prins, ca eu stiam ca nu are. De acolo si: <a avut>. Dar nu stiu daca au
facut astia una de cind n-am fost eu in tara! De acolo si: <are>, adica acum
daca are!
Hai noroc si cu o bere pe terasa (!) la Capsa!
Tzandarica
>Tzandarica" <tzand...@aol.com>
>> Buuuuuuna intrebarea!!! Dar mai buna e: oare ce inseamna acel (!) intre
>> paranteze?
>
>
>Nu stiu! Intreaba-l pe Bula:-) Mie totusi nu-mi a raspuns:-((( Bula
>nepoliticosu...
>Dar ca sa nu ma intrebi si pa mine de parenteza mea (!) iti spun daca nu te
>ai prins, ca eu stiam ca nu are. De acolo si: <a avut>. Dar nu stiu daca au
>facut astia una de cind n-am fost eu in tara! De acolo si: <are>, adica acum
>daca are!
>Hai noroc si cu o bere pe terasa (!) la Capsa!
Rau mai esti azi!! Esti cu...capsa pusa?
gogu
news:20000504120650...@nso-ce.aol.com...
De ce dom'le sa fiu rau? Chiar am raspuns avind chef de gluma! Si urarea a
fost pe bune! Cum ti-a venit ca sint cu "capsa pusa"?... Sint foarte bine
dispus si nu cred ca ti-am raspuns cu "rautate"... Zau ca tragi concluzii
aiurea.
Hai noroc si - o data ce vad ca te a deranjat - pe orice terasa vrei matale!
Sanatate.
Bula 00001
>Date: 5/4/00 12:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000504002118...@nso-cj.aol.com>
>
>
>In article <8epcsn$s5r$1...@newssrv.otenet.gr>, "gogu" pontificheaza:
>
>>"Bula 00001" <bula...@aol.com> Yγραψε στο μ νυμα
>>news:20000502211905...@ng-cm1.aol.com...
>>>
>>> Sper cai
>>> invatzato pa terasa dala Capsa (!) printe 2 linsaturi da bere sio pagina
>>din
>>> Cioran.:))
>>
>>Bulache, voi doi poate le aveti pe ale voastre de rezolvat, dar io as vrea
>>sa te intreb ceva. De cind bre Capsa are (a avut) o terasa???
>
>
>paranteze?
>
Vaz ca toti ie curiosi da terasa dala Capsa
si mai ia si la misto ca Capsa nare (si na avut) terasa ceia ce foarte rong
(ptiu ! iar o dadui pa linbaju da cuinz :)).
Capsa a avut o terasa in decursu istoriei da io ma refeream la terasa da vizavi
la care sa avea acces pa baza da legitimatie speciala tip mondocacada :)))
Acolo avea aces numa lumea da bine cum si Gogu stie desi iel sa da baiat da
braserie :)))
Saltare
Bula
PS mai diguitzi !!
Tzandarica
In article <8esir8$6c3$1...@newssrv.otenet.gr>, "gogu":
>> Rau mai esti azi!! Esti cu...capsa pusa?
>
>De ce dom'le sa fiu rau? Chiar am raspuns avind chef de gluma! Si urarea a
>fost pe bune! Cum ti-a venit ca sint cu "capsa pusa"?... Sint foarte bine
>dispus si nu cred ca ti-am raspuns cu "rautate"... Zau ca tragi concluzii
>aiurea.
>Hai noroc si - o data ce vad ca te a deranjat - pe orice terasa vrei matale!
>Sanatate.
Nu m-a deranjat nimic domnule, ce sari la mine? Nu poate omul sa zica ceva, ca
imediat ii umpleti capul cu cucuie. Ce-i aici, club privat, for membrii only?
De rau esti rau, am citit ce-ai scris azi. Asa-i?
gogu
>
> In article <8esir8$6c3$1...@newssrv.otenet.gr>, "gogu":
>
> >> Rau mai esti azi!! Esti cu...capsa pusa?
> >
> >De ce dom'le sa fiu rau? Chiar am raspuns avind chef de gluma! Si urarea
a
> >fost pe bune! Cum ti-a venit ca sint cu "capsa pusa"?... Sint foarte bine
> >dispus si nu cred ca ti-am raspuns cu "rautate"... Zau ca tragi concluzii
> >aiurea.
> >Hai noroc si - o data ce vad ca te a deranjat - pe orice terasa vrei
matale!
> >Sanatate.
>
> Nu m-a deranjat nimic domnule, ce sari la mine?
Unde sar dom'le? Un raspuns simplu si politicos ti-am dat! De unde atitea
sarituri?
> Nu poate omul sa zica ceva, ca
> imediat ii umpleti capul cu cucuie. Ce-i aici, club privat, for membrii
only?
Fugi de acilea dom'le! Pai, tocmai azi (ieri) ii am raspuns a lu' Daciache
Ruginitache ca nu poate el sa zica cine posteaza aici si cine nu! Ce ma faci
pe mine "moderator":-)
> De rau esti rau, am citit ce-ai scris azi. Asa-i?
Asa-i bre cu cine merita! Nu crezi? Cu aialalti sint chiar foarte blind si
prietenos.
gogu
news:20000504212605...@ng-bk1.aol.com...
> >>Bulache, voi doi poate le aveti pe ale voastre de rezolvat, dar io as
vrea
> >>sa te intreb ceva. De cind bre Capsa are (a avut) o terasa???
> >
> >
> >Buuuuuuna intrebarea!!! Dar mai buna e: oare ce inseamna acel (!) intre
> >paranteze?
> >
> >PS: Dle Iacomi, ce-am facut, pleonasm sau redundanta?
>
> Vaz ca toti ie curiosi da terasa dala Capsa
> si mai ia si la misto ca Capsa nare (si na avut) terasa ceia ce foarte
rong
> (ptiu ! iar o dadui pa linbaju da cuinz :)).
> Capsa a avut o terasa in decursu istoriei
Unde o avea Bulache? Poate pe trotuarul de vis-a-vis , la magazinul Eva! Sau
la regia apelor!
> da io ma refeream la terasa da vizavi
> la care sa avea acces pa baza da legitimatie speciala tip mondocacada :)))
>
> Acolo avea aces numa lumea da bine cum si Gogu stie desi iel sa da baiat
da
> braserie :)))
La Casa Centrala A Armatei??? Chiar ca nu m-am gindit la asta! Pe cuvint!
Ptiu drace, eu nu ma impac bine cu militarii, ce, nu stii?
In rest nu ma dau baiat de braserie, ca eu ma duceam numai pe salonul Capsa
din straduta laterala Bula! Nu-ti aduci aminte ca ti-am zis ca io am fost
boier?:-) Cu nomenclaturistii! Deh....
>
> Saltare
>
> Bula
>
> PS mai diguitzi !!
Traducere, va rog.
Tzandarica
>> PS mai diguitzi !!
>
>Traducere, va rog.
Taci si sapa!
gogu
Merci! Acum mi-a picat fisa!
MondoCANada
>, feel
>free to do it, ptiu, ca m-am molipsit, bagami-as , de anglo-romana da
>cuinz.
cu 2 aspirine poate-ti trece, baga-MI-as!
>hehehe, vechiul text, " niggers stink, oh dont get me wrong, some of my
>best friends are black, but bla bla bla..."
io'ti zisei ca nu esti bleg(*). Si chiar pot pt. ca sa afirm ca nici rau
intentionat..
>e, vezi ca revii
'ca reVI', mon cher. Pe de alta parte ii adevarat ca 'VII cu VII si mortii cu
mortii'
> peste tot vezi
>numa solde, masonerii, care cum mananca cacat musai trebuie unu sa-l
>plateasca pentru ineptiile pe care le zice
vezi (*)
de alde Pavel am citit una singura carte, ocazie cu care m-am dumirit ca rasul
face bine muschilor abdominalo-pulmonari
> de aia nu pot sa zbier muie lu
>vadim, ar fi nedrept sa fie pomenit numai el cand toate animalele care
>dorm pe la parlament si guvern sant mai rele decat rm.
>
cf. poliTICHIEI mondiale actuale, trebe sa tinem cont de tripleta GLOBAL -
LOCAL - INTERESE NATIONALE. Dpdv LOCAL (aka vis-a-vis de relatiile cu
extremistii si jigodiile din tarile vecine), WCT si Funar sunt utili. Pe de
alta parte, pieptanandu-ne oleaca ochelarii de cal mai spre spate, e lesne de
observat ca nici Ungaria si nici Ukraina nu ne vor baga in NATO si nici nu ne
vor aduce joburi, investitii si - in general vorbind, prosperitate - p'al nost'
picior de plai. So no matter what we think, we'v got to dance to the 'real
politik' tune.
>ca am fost tata facultatea membru (sau organ?) a studentimii
>taraniste, am lipit afise cu milica de am facut bataturi in palma ca de
>la laba, am zbierat la tote mitingurile, m-am imbatat la tate
>chermezele lor
asa am scris si io in aplicatia de azil politic prima oara cand am AMErizat in
NY. Si mi-au dat-o in mana (nici drept de munca n-am primit!!). Am devenit
cetatean US pt. ca am investit $1,000,000 intr-un business care, spre norocul
meu, merge si acum de duduie.
mai multe cu alt prilej
DACIA LAN
>From: "Dr. Rebeca Levy" reb...@sdf.lonestar.org
>Date: 5/17/00 2:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Pine.LNX.4.10.100042...@sdf.lonestar.org>
GO TO HELL WITH YOU HUNGARIANS !!!
AS,88
J.
I have worked as a volunteer in Transylvania for a long time now, and
I have NO REASON whatsoever to be in favour of one or another ethnical
group. Our society gives help to all, Romanians, Roms, Hungarians and
Saxons, without prejudice.
Generally the ethnic Hungarians are very kind people and I am proud to
say that I have some very good friends of Hungarian descent. However,
where we encountered intolerance and selfishness it almost always was
by Hungarians. A hospital we wanted to give aid to had a Hungarian
woman in charge who said that she would ONLY use our materials for
Hungarians there. We told her that we wanted our materials to be used
for ALL patients - she refused and we brought our aid to other places
instead. Political unrest: Although only 8% of all Transylvanians are
Hungarian, their political party demands the separation of the region
from Romania. I have never ever seen Romanians act in a discriminatory
way towards Hungarians or Saxons.
No it isn´t paradise - far from that. Indeed the Roms are
discriminated against. Discriminated by ALL other ethnic groups. Not
justifyable, I agree, but then again their lifestyle is such that it
is extremely difficult for most to remain unbiased. When you´ve been a
victim of assault and battery, of theft and robbery, and most every
time the crime is committed by a Rom it´s very difficult to remain
fair. It´s an almost impossible dilemma, an aid worker´s nightmare.
You want to help the poorest of poor with greatest possible priority,
but they themselves are the biggest obstacle.
But to claim that Hungarians are the victims of Romanians in
Transylvania is simply ludicrous. A statement that can only be made by
someone with an obsessive hatred against Romania, such as Ms. Levy has
proven to possess.
How cynical that a Jewish person is involved in deformations of
character and sewing ethnical hatred. Goddamnit woman, can´t you
understand that your endless tirades against Romanians is amounting to
the same kind of ethnical terror that nazi´s carried out against Jews
in Germany???? Have you ever heard of bringing people together???
Please go find a shrink and stop your hate-mongering! I´ve said it
before and I´ll say it again: Romania is a country that is in very big
economical difficulties. The country needs our help and support. I
don´t give a damn about who did what over half a century ago. It is
YOUR DUTY as a human being to bring people of different ethnic
backgrounds together, not to fire up the ugly face of division. As
Kosovo shows us: it can lead to the destruction of a country and the
deaths of thousands of men, women and children.
So if you can´t say anything nice or kind that brings people together,
better not say anything at all. You are a disgrace to your country and
to our ethnical background! I feel humiliated and embarassed to
witness your style of nazi-hate mongering. How many people must first
die before you stop? What is your aim in this endless stream of
obsessed nonsense? Or are you going to tell me that your messages are
a contribution to peaceful coexistance?
J. Cohen.
On Wed, 17 May 2000 18:01:16 GMT, "Dr. Rebeca Levy"
<reb...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>THE ASSOCIATION OF JEWISH ROMANIAN AMERICANS
>David Kahane - President
> 1570 57th Street
> Brooklyn, NY 11219
>
>(please archive)
>
>ROMANIA IS BRUTALLY OPPRESSING HUNGARIANS IN TRANSYLVANIA AND MOLDVA
>
>The article in Hungarian at:
>http://www.geocities.com/erdelyilobby/klzseiek.htm accounts the BRUTAL
>OPPRESSION of Chango Hungarians - around 250,000 - in the beyond
>Carpathian Moldva region. In the city of Klezse(Clayja), the use of the
>Hungarian language is prohibited in the Roman Catholic church. The priest
>although Hungarian origin was brainwashed during his education at the
>Romanian State financed seminary and is paid to be the agent of the
>oppressor Romanian State to assimilate Hungarians. This is in year 2000!
>In the middle of Europe! The Hungarian government is not protesting
>because of its rush to EU! The Chango Hungarians are not even allowed to
>sing in Hungarian at wakes because if the priest will hear about it, will
>not do the funeral.
>
>
>
Csaba Takacs
Ce zici sa luam ca un arbitru
nepartinitor sau vorbitor fara
interese?????
Csaba.
J. Co...@multinet.com (J. Cohen) schrieb in Nachricht <3929ab63...@news.easynews.com>...
gogu
news:8gd8df$e9h$13$1...@news.t-online.com...
>Gogu.
>Ce zici sa luam ca un arbitru
>nepartinitor sau vorbitor fara
>interese?????
>Csaba.
Stiu eu Csaba? N-am nimic in potriva "arbitrilor nepartinitori", dar poti sa
fii convins de neutralitatea cuiva pe care nu-l cunosti personal?... In
orice caz cum ai scris si mai sus, problema Ardealului sint extremistii de
ambele parti...
Aici nu e nevoie de arbitru, e nevoie de oameni de bun simtz si fara
"anchilozele" (hehe, cauta la un dictionar de medicina:-)) trecutului... De
ambele parti, pretizez inc-o data...
Sanatate si numai bine.
PS
In orice caz, unde vad numele acestei Rebeca Levy amestecat, eu ma cam
"inchui"...
Despre Unghurii si "opresiunea" lor in Moldova, recunosc ca ma mira
gagica... In afara de cazuri izolate, cum ar fi si o familie sau doua de
Romani in Polonia de ex, eu nu stiam de existenta Unghurilor pe meleagurile
Moldovenesti... Poate gresesc, recunosc ca nu stiu nimic, nu sint un
specialist in domeniu, dar mi se pare exagerat existenta unei minoritati
Maghiare in Moldova... Cazuri izolate, da. Minoritate? Hmmmm...
Eu stiam ca Ceangaii traiesc in Transilvania. Daca acum stau la limita intre
Transilvania si Moldova, asta nu face o minoritate IN Moldova... Alti poate
au obiectii si daca Ceangaii sint considerati Maghiari "puri"... Cum ti-am
zis, nu stiu multe pe tema...
J. Co...@multinet.com (J. Cohen) schrieb in Nachricht
<3929ab63...@news.easynews.com>...
>Is there any way to stop this lunatic woman???
>I have worked as a volunteer in Transylvania for a long time now, and
>I have NO REASON whatsoever to be in favour of one or another ethnical
>group. Our society gives help to all, Romanians, Roms, Hungarians and
>Saxons, without prejudice.
>Generally the ethnic Hungarians are very kind people and I am proud to
>say that I have some very good friends of Hungarian descent. However,
>where we encountered intolerance and selfishness it almost always was
>by Hungarians. A hospital we wanted to give aid to had a Hungarian
>woman in charge who said that she would ONLY use our materials for
>Hungarians there. We told her that we wanted our materials to be used
>for ALL patients - she refused and we brought our aid to other places
>instead. Political unrest: Although only 8% of all Transylvanians are
>Hungarian, their political party demands the separation of the region
>from Romania. I have never ever seen Romanians act in a discriminatory
>way towards Hungarians or Saxons.
>No it isn?t paradise - far from that. Indeed the Roms are
>discriminated against. Discriminated by ALL other ethnic groups. Not
>justifyable, I agree, but then again their lifestyle is such that it
>is extremely difficult for most to remain unbiased. When you?ve been a
>victim of assault and battery, of theft and robbery, and most every
>time the crime is committed by a Rom it?s very difficult to remain
>fair. It?s an almost impossible dilemma, an aid worker?s nightmare.
>You want to help the poorest of poor with greatest possible priority,
>but they themselves are the biggest obstacle.
>But to claim that Hungarians are the victims of Romanians in
>Transylvania is simply ludicrous. A statement that can only be made by
>someone with an obsessive hatred against Romania, such as Ms. Levy has
>proven to possess.
>
>How cynical that a Jewish person is involved in deformations of
>character and sewing ethnical hatred. Goddamnit woman, can?t you
>understand that your endless tirades against Romanians is amounting to
>the same kind of ethnical terror that nazi?s carried out against Jews
>in Germany???? Have you ever heard of bringing people together???
>
>Please go find a shrink and stop your hate-mongering! I?ve said it
>before and I?ll say it again: Romania is a country that is in very big
>economical difficulties. The country needs our help and support. I
>don?t give a damn about who did what over half a century ago. It is
>YOUR DUTY as a human being to bring people of different ethnic
>backgrounds together, not to fire up the ugly face of division. As
>Kosovo shows us: it can lead to the destruction of a country and the
>deaths of thousands of men, women and children.
>
>So if you can?t say anything nice or kind that brings people together,
Csaba Takacs
incerc sa fiu cit se poate de
scurt.
Csangok sau Ceangai sint o minoritate.
Istoria lor incepe cu Siculicidium adica
omorirea secuilor de citre un general
austriac, care intr-o noapte a pus tunurile
in pozitie si la crapatul zilei a inceput
tragerea pe populatie civila din localitatile
Ciceu-Csikcsicso,
Siculeni-Csikmadefalva,
Racu-Cskirakos.
Au fost folosita ghiulele cu lanti, adica
scopul atacului a fost producerea pagubei
maxime, atit in vieti omenesti cit si
material. Cei ramasi in viata au ceangat,
adica au parasit tara Transilvania pe valea
Trotusului-Tatros in moldova. Oameni acestia
sint foarte priceputi in multe meserii. Au
fost primiti bine de moldoveni. Sint de
Religie catolici. Vorbesc un dialect secuiesc
si sint secui-csango. In razboi mondial o
parte din ei au fost mutati in ungaria pe
partile intre dunare si granita austriaca
si in alte parti in transilvania. Nu m-i este
clar daca mutarea asta a fost fortata sau
din propria initiativa a ceangai-lor.
Csaba.
gogu schrieb in Nachricht <8geanu$1m5$2...@newssrv.otenet.gr>...
>Ï "Csaba Takacs" <Csaba....@T-Online.de> Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá
gogu
traiau in Transilvania, dar in ultimele zone inainte sa inceapa Moldova. Mea
culpa, dar am recunoscut ca nu stiu:-)
Zi-mi daca sint aia care lumea zice ca sint calareti (sau se ocupa cu pusu
potcoavelor la cai), poarta mereu o vesta si o palarie gen 1920, sint
imbracati in general in negru sau maro, si au un mers ciudat, lasind toata
greutatea corpului ba la unu ba la altu din picioarele... Poate o ramasita
de o viata petrecuta pe cai... Poarta de obicei o mustatza care "atirna",
foarte asemanatoare a Unghurului typic pe care-l vedem aici in Occident sa
calareasca cai? (la reclamele turistice pt Ungharia I mean).
Oricum, multumesc pt clarificarile!
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>Date: 05/23/2000 3:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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>Zi-mi daca sint aia care lumea zice ca sint calareti (sau se ocupa cu pusu
>potcoavelor la cai), poarta mereu o vesta si o palarie gen 1920, sint
>imbracati in general in negru sau maro, si au un mers ciudat, lasind toata
>greutatea corpului ba la unu
>ba la altu din picioarele... Poate o ramasita
>de o viata petrecuta pe cai... Poarta de obicei o mustatza care "atirna",
>foarte asemanatoare a Unghurului typic pe care-l vedem aici in Occident sa
>calareasca cai?
Nu mai Gogule aia sunt "los ghauchos" si traiesc in pampas.
gogu
Mike-:((((
Chiar crezi ca nu sint in stare sa fac diferentza intre Romania si Argentina? Sau intre matanii si la bolas?
Eu vorbesc serios. Daca vii in Romania cu masina prin vama Giurgiu, mereu ii vezi pe astia pe care ti-am descris venind din Turcia cu dubitze arhi-pline de "marfa"... Daca era permis sa fac fotohgrafii in vama, ti-as pune niste poze ca sa vezi de ce vorbesc data urmatoare cind merg in tara. Oricum, am sa cer voie si daca ma lasa, am sa-ti trimit niste poze. Dar n-asteptam sa fi ironic...
Csaba Takacs
Secui si Ceangai ca atare au trait
izolat pe marginea ungariei,austro-ungariei,
din nou ungariei, numa in romania au trait
in mijloc dar tot intre munti. Sint calareti
buni dar cai lor au ales pentru teren adecvat.
La anumite sarbatori baietii apar pe cai, dar
aceasta rasa amestec intre calul de stepa cu
care au venit incrucisat cu valach. Foarte
rezistent. Nu sint cai pentru schow.
Ce ai vazut tu cred ca ere trupa de Csikos.
Cu palarii din filz impregnat si tare ca
tabla, cu boruri care te apara de soare,
cind nu ai ochelari nici de soare nici de
cal.:-)))))in general de intemperii.
Baietii acestia au asigurat posta pe terenul
austro ungar. Pentru ca curul calaretului nu
supporta aceasta tratament dur au calarit pe
doi cai stind in picioare si alte doi cai erau
de rezerva.Nu uita pe timpul acela acesti oameni
de post nu avut sindicat au mincat au mincat numa
mincare rece si implicit multi din ei suferea de
hemoroizi, iar Fenistil inca nu era descoperit.:-)))
Oameni acestia au avut o performanta privind
viteza, care posta ungara de azi numa viseaza.
Depese semnate de cancelaria in wiena la miaz,
seara urmatorei zi era la triest!
Oamenii acestia sint unguri si nu secui. Ei au
trait pe hortobagy, puszta ungara. Se ocupau de
cresterea animalelor. Rase specific ungariei.
Cai lor cu statura mult mai mare ca al secuilor
si de viteza mult mai mare. Ei fac turneuri in
toate europa si cred ca ai vazut o trupa din
acestea.
Sanatete.
Csaba.
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rethoric. My father was in a German camp, don´t tell me about history.
I got more than enough about it during my childhood.
There is a difference between forgetting (which I would never promote)
and rubbing dirt into people´s noses who weren´t even born at the
times these awful things happened.
My gripe against Ms. Levy is that she lives in a country that itself
has commited a horrible "holocaust". If she feels that the mere fact
that Romanian descendants of those who collaborated in crimes can and
should be reprimanded, then she better start in her own country with
the crimes of her own fellow-citizens. To the best of my knowledge the
people who live in Indian reservations are still in a very miserable
condition NOW, in the year 2000.
I don´t know of any jewish people in Europe who live in substandard
conditions due to their heritage.
Besides, her massive attacks on anything Romanian, not just about jews
but about Hungarians, Roms, homosexuals and right wing political
parties in Romania proves that she´s not busy with honest historical
research but with "Romanian-bashing". Coming from a country that has
used more chemical weapons against human beings than any other place
in the world, a country that has more prisoners per capita than any
other country in the world, a country that has 40,000 gun-related
killings per year, and so on and so on, I can only say: "Improve the
world and start with thouself".
Again, I would NEVER promote that one would forget the horrible
lessons of genocide in World War II. But it NEVER should be abused to
attack people who weren´t alive then and bore no responsibility for
what happened. No one can rewrite history, and only criminals can be
held accountable for crimes. Not their offspring.
J. Cohen.
On 02 May 2000 04:45:51 GMT, archi...@aol.com (Archivist4) wrote:
>>From: "irgun43" irg...@slip.net
>>Date: 05/01/2000 10:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <sgrfch2...@corp.supernews.com>
>
>> We have a cultural difference. Israel (the people) is a very historical
>nation.
>
>
>Asking us to forget and keep quiet is like asking the sun not to
>>come up. We're not going to do it. If telling the truth about the past is a
>>"hate " campaign, get used to it.
>
>Sir if you don't like to forget, than how come the Israeli go how come the
>Israeli Government for over 10 years they are trying to convince -- at the
>Turkish request -- the American congress that our Genocide didn't happen. For
>your information Sir - and the Israeli government -- in our genocide over 1.5
>million people they been killed. EVER HITLER MENTIONED ABOUT OUR GENOCIDE.
gogu
ce vreau sa zic:-) Astia de care zic eu sint cetateni Romani si mai ciuturii
la mecla, care din pacate acum fac biznitza intre Romania si Turcia... Bine,
nu toti dar sint destui care traiesc din asta. Mereu ii vezi sa astepte la
intrarea in Romania la Giurgiu cu nevestele si, cu masinile pline de "marfa"
din Turcia (haine, etc):-) Par-ca cineva mi-a zis o data ca sint Ceangai,
dar nu-mi aduc bine aminte... De asta intrebam...
Data viitoare cind ii vad la granita intreb un politzai cum se numesc astia
si poate ma lasa sa-i fotografiez...
Oricum, multumesc de efortul pe care ai depus ca sa-mi explici!
Salut
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Archivist4
>Date: 05/24/2000 1:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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>Mike-:((((
>Chiar crezi ca nu sint in stare sa fac diferentza intre Romania si Argentina?
>Sau intre matanii si la bolas?
>Eu vorbesc serios. Daca vii in Romania cu masina prin vama Giurgiu, mereu ii
>vezi pe astia pe care ti-am descris venind din Turcia cu dubitze arhi-pline
>de "marfa"... Daca era permis sa fac fotohgrafii in vama, ti-as pune niste
>poze ca sa vezi de ce vorbesc data urmatoare cind merg in tara. Oricum, am sa
>cer voie si daca ma lasa, am sa-ti trimit niste poze. Dar n-asteptam sa fi
ironic...
>
>
Gogule imi pare rau ca te-a intristat mesajul meu (ref: :(((( ).
Ce-ai vazut tu la Giurgiu erau in mod sigur turci sau tigani. Ctred ca stii ca
la ora actuala tiganii o duc cel mai bine-n tara. Potzi sa-l intrebi si pe Bula
Sau pe Wally. BTWca venit vorba de tigani,am vazut acum vreo 2 saptamani pe
HBO(nu mai tin minte pe care din ele ca am vreo 7 canale de HBO's) un film
foarte bun cu viata tiganilor din tara.Nu l-am vazut de la inceput si de aceea
nu-i stiu numele. L-am mai tot urmarit ca vreau sa-l trag pe caseta dar nu l-au
mai dat. Se vorbea foarte mult romaneste in film si avea multa muzica- in
romaneste- lautareasca si tiganeasca.
Filmul era foarte real, cum li se-a dat foc caselor etc. Rog pe unele persoane
care au vazut filmul sa-mi dea titlul.
gogu
> >From: "gogu" gola...@yahoo.com
> >Date: 05/24/2000 1:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <8gg4do$mjo$1...@newssrv.otenet.gr>
>
>
> >Chiar crezi ca nu sint in stare sa fac diferentza intre Romania si Argentina?
> >Sau intre matanii si la bolas?
> >Eu vorbesc serios. Daca vii in Romania cu masina prin vama Giurgiu, mereu ii
> >vezi pe astia pe care ti-am descris venind din Turcia cu dubitze arhi-pline
> >de "marfa"... Daca era permis sa fac fotohgrafii in vama, ti-as pune niste
> >poze ca sa vezi de ce vorbesc data urmatoare cind merg in tara. Oricum, am sa
> >cer voie si daca ma lasa, am sa-ti trimit niste poze. Dar n-asteptam sa fi
> ironic...
> >
> >
> Gogule imi pare rau ca te-a intristat mesajul meu (ref: :(((( ).
Lasa bre, n-are nimic:-) Repede imi trece daca stiu ca n-a fost facut cu rautate.
> Ce-ai vazut tu la Giurgiu erau in mod sigur turci sau tigani.
Turci sub nici un caz ca vorbeau Romaneste, aveau masini cu numere Romanesti si cind l-am intrebat pe un graniter mi-a zis ca sint Romani si mi-a zis cum-i cheama dar n-am retinut denumirea. El mi-a zis ca erau calaretii, etc. De asta intrebam daca n-o fi Ceangaii de care vorbeam.
> Ctred ca stii ca
> la ora actuala tiganii o duc cel mai bine-n tara.
Nu cred ca toti, dar nu m-as mira sa fie un numar mare de ei care o duc bine...
> Potzi sa-l intrebi si pe Bula
> Sau pe Wally.
Bine bine, Wally ca Wally, dar Bula ce treaba are cu ei?:-)
> BTWca venit vorba de tigani,am vazut acum vreo 2 saptamani pe
> HBO(nu mai tin minte pe care din ele ca am vreo 7 canale de HBO's) un film
> foarte bun cu viata tiganilor din tara.Nu l-am vazut de la inceput si de aceea
> nu-i stiu numele. L-am mai tot urmarit ca vreau sa-l trag pe caseta dar nu l-au
> mai dat. Se vorbea foarte mult romaneste in film si avea multa muzica- in
> romaneste- lautareasca si tiganeasca.
> Filmul era foarte real, cum li
se-a dat foc caselor etc. Rog pe unele persoane
> care au vazut filmul sa-mi dea titlul.
La noi cam rar ajung filme cu tiganii din Romania, deci nu cred ca l-am
vazut.
Sanatate.
Csaba Takacs
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Bula 00001
>
>
>Mike-:((((
>Chiar crezi ca nu sint in stare sa fac diferentza intre Romania si Argentina?
>Sau intre matanii si la bolas?
>Eu vorbesc serios. Daca vii in Romania cu masina prin vama Giurgiu, mereu ii
>vezi pe astia pe care ti-am descris venind din Turcia cu dubitze arhi-pline
>de "marfa"... Daca era permis sa fac fotohgrafii in vama, ti-as pune niste
>poze ca sa vezi de ce vorbesc data urmatoare cind merg in tara. Oricum, am sa
>cer voie si daca ma lasa, am sa-ti trimit niste poze. Dar n-asteptam sa fi
>ironic...
Nea Goguta bre mata confuzi los vacheros
de las papas cu gaborii cu palarie care ie iezact aia dai descri mata.
Ceangaii ie blonzi, traiesc in sate iecsclusiv ale lor in majoritatea cazurilor
sunt selfsuficentzi adica un fel da alti lipoveni da origine secuie. Cei mai
multi traieste in judetu Bacau zona subcarpatica
zona ce na fost niciodata colhovizata da unde si selfsuficenta satelor.
Gaborii ie rrromii unguresti care sancadreaza iegzakt pa descrierea mata (iei
de altfel reprezinta 3/4 din populatia maghiara din ardeal siare si partid
propiu - aripa cu palarie a udemereului:)))
Aia da sa ocupa cu potcovitu da cai morti sa mai numesc si danci iar copii lor
danciugi :00)))))))))
Sper ca tiam fost da reial folos :))
Saltare
B
gogu
>Oseni?
Nu stiu bre Csaba! M-am incurcat cu atitea informatii pe care mi-ati
furnizat toti si acuma chiar ca nu stiu:-))) Data viitoare cind merg (cu
masina) in Romania am sa-i intreb pe graniterii sa-mi zica si atunci va
spun. Merci oricum pt deranj.
Sanatate.
PS
Nu pleci undeva?:-)
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>> >From: "gogu" gola...@yahoo.com
>> >Date: 05/24/2000 1:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: <8gg4do$mjo$1...@newssrv.otenet.gr>
>>
>>
>ke-:((((
>> >Chiar crezi ca nu sint in stare sa fac diferentza intre Romania si Argentina?
>> >Sau intre matanii si la bolas?
>> >Eu vorbesc serios. Daca vii in Romania cu masina prin vama Giurgiu, mereu ii
>> >vezi pe astia pe care ti-am descris venind din Turcia cu dubitze arhi-pline
>> >de "marfa"... Daca era permis sa fac fotohgrafii in vama, ti-as pune niste
>> >poze ca sa vezi de ce vorbesc data urmatoare cind merg in tara. Oricum, am sa
>> >cer voie si daca ma lasa, am sa-ti trimit niste poze. Dar n-asteptam sa fi
>> ironic...
>> >
>> >
gogu
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> Nea Goguta bre mata confuzi los vacheros
> de las papas cu gaborii cu palarie care ie iezact aia dai descri mata.
> Ceangaii ie blonzi, traiesc in sate iecsclusiv ale lor in majoritatea
cazurilor
> sunt selfsuficentzi adica un fel da alti lipoveni da origine secuie. Cei
mai
> multi traieste in judetu Bacau zona subcarpatica
> zona ce na fost niciodata colhovizata da unde si selfsuficenta satelor.
> Gaborii ie rrromii unguresti care sancadreaza iegzakt pa descrierea mata
(iei
> de altfel reprezinta 3/4 din populatia maghiara din ardeal siare si partid
> propiu - aripa cu palarie a udemereului:)))
> Aia da sa ocupa cu potcovitu da cai morti sa mai numesc si danci iar copii
lor
> danciugi :00)))))))))
>
> Sper ca tiam fost da reial folos :))
Nu stiu daca mi-ai fost de folos Bula, dar am sa ma straduiesc sa caut cit
la suta din postingul tau e serios si cit la suta ie caterinca... Sper sa
scot ceva...
Dar pe bune as vrea sa te intreb ceva: de ce gasesti necesar in orice
posting de al tau sa te iei de Unghuri, chiar daca ei nu au zis sau facut
nimic rau (ma refer strict la threadul)... Nu stiu nene, cu fixatii ca astea
incep sa ma intreb pe bune daca Romanii si Unghurii mai pot trai impreuna in
pace... Si nu-mi da ca "ei au inceput primii..." etc... Vorbesc in general.
Daca noi care cit de cit avem cam toti o scoala si doua grame de creier ne
comportam in felul asta, ce pretentii sa mai ai de la oamenii care traiesc
in sate in Romania si probabil n-au mai mult de 6 sau 8 clase... Cum sa
inteleaga ce inseamna coexistenta pasnica, a fi tolerant, etc... Si ca sa te
iau inainte, ma refer la oameni din ambele "tabare": Romani si Unghuri...
Hai sanatate ca am sa-ti ..... "descifrez" mesajul:-)
> Saltare
>
> B
Bula 00001
>Nu stiu daca mi-ai fost de folos Bula, dar am sa ma straduiesc sa caut cit
>la suta din postingul tau e serios si cit la suta ie caterinca... Sper sa
>scot ceva...
>Dar pe bune as vrea sa te intreb ceva: de ce gasesti necesar in orice
>posting de al tau sa te iei de Unghuri, chiar daca ei nu au zis sau facut
>nimic rau (ma refer strict la threadul)... Nu stiu nene, cu fixatii ca astea
>incep sa ma intreb pe bune daca Romanii si Unghurii mai pot trai impreuna in
>pace... Si nu-mi da ca "ei au inceput primii..." etc... Vorbesc in general.
>Daca noi care cit de cit avem cam toti o scoala si doua grame de creier ne
>comportam in felul asta, ce pretentii sa mai ai de la oamenii care traiesc
>in sate in Romania si probabil n-au mai mult de 6 sau 8 clase... Cum sa
>inteleaga ce inseamna coexistenta pasnica, a fi tolerant, etc... Si ca sa te
>iau inainte, ma refer la oameni din ambele "tabare": Romani si Unghuri...
>Hai sanatate ca am sa-ti ..... "descifrez" mesajul:-)
Nea gogutzule lasame bre sa te ajut cu descifrarea :))))))
1. io nam nimic cu ungurii din ardeal ca ie dai nostri desi cam.....:))) adica
cam ca oliva adica baieti buni da...cu lipsuri si caresi da in petice.
2. scoala nu dezvolta alea 2 g de creier ci cum zice unguru : o contrer (ultimu
r ff nazalizat pa nas) adica altereaza si bruma da gindire pura. scoala ie
forma legalizata da brein oashin' si indoctrinare adica un fel da programare a
viitorului votator homo socialis(t) :)) demokratus.
3. aia cu mai putine clase dacit noi ..arhitectii si rufangii :0)))) adica
taranii ardelenti ie mult mai intelepti dacit crezi mata ca tomnai daia furnal
si troakesh latra in vint.
4. io nu ma agitez dacit aci pa secereu dintrun motiv sinplu pa care lam
declarat :
fan sau ma rog fun .
Tudom bre ??
Stratosfera acu
Bula, Baronu olah
gogu
Uite mie nu-mi plac generalizarile astea...
> 2. scoala nu dezvolta alea 2 g de creier ci cum zice unguru : o contrer
(ultimu
> r ff nazalizat pa nas) adica altereaza si bruma da gindire pura. scoala ie
> forma legalizata da brein oashin' si indoctrinare adica un fel da
programare a
> viitorului votator homo socialis(t) :)) demokratus.
Si da si nu. Scoala la alti are efect "imbunatator" si la alti chiar "o
contrer" cum zici si matale...
> 3. aia cu mai putine clase dacit noi ..arhitectii si rufangii :0)))) adica
> taranii ardelenti ie mult mai intelepti dacit crezi mata ca tomnai daia
furnal
> si troakesh latra in vint.
You completely misunderstood my sayings... Cind m-am referat la aia cu 6
clase, nu-i aveam in gind pe taranii ca o multime ci pe aia care sint
ignoranti si cred totusi ca le stiu pe toate... De fapt am vazut de multe
ori ca in satele oamenii in diferent de etnie se impaca de minune... Cind
vin aia "smecheritii" si-i umpla capu cu aer, atunci incep problemele...
Taranul in diferent de etnie, are cel mai mare respect din partea mea.
>
> 4. io nu ma agitez dacit aci pa secereu dintrun motiv sinplu pa care lam
> declarat :
> fan sau ma rog fun .
M-as mira sa fie si altfel! Sau tu crezi ca e vre-unu de pe aici care se
"ocupa" profesional cu scr?:-)
> Tudom bre ??
Nu stiu ce-i aia, dar cred ca nu-i de rau... Deci, tudom daca asa vrei
matale.
> Stratosfera acu
Ionosfera si tie.
> Bula, Baronu olah
CNB, Baron Byzantin:-)
Jorj
Respectele mele!