TRASH in SCI
Mohammad Heydari
One expresses his/her opinion with what he/she says, and THE WAY one
says it expresses one's SHAKHSIIAT (class).
As the good poet says (sorry, I do not remember his name!):
zabaan dar dahaan ey kheradmand chist?
kelid-e dar-e gange-e saheb sokhan
cho dar basteh baashad nadaanad kasy
ke gouhar-foroosh ast ya pileh-var
Some words, although very effensive and considered zesht (bad!) by some,
sound very natural and OK by otheres. It is not probabely their fault, they
grew up that way and with those words (we can always blame the society!!!).
baa dorood va bedrood:
mohammad.
Iranian Cowboy
>Some words, although very effensive and considered zesht (bad!) by some,
>sound very natural and OK by otheres. It is not probabely their fault, they
>grew up that way and with those words (we can always blame the society!!!).
> baa dorood va bedrood:
> mohammad.
On the same note I remember when I used to go to Kharazmi high school in Tehran
, there were always these new students who used to come from other cities or
other "sosoli" high school. For them, our language used to sound very rude
, to say the least. I remember some of them even used to turn red, when we
review the biology of 1st year of high school. However, after a while, they
get used to our language. Many of you have been outside of the country
and do not know how the real people speak. One good example of this is
those newspapers which are published in L.A.; they sound like a direct
translation from an english text! May be, because their writers have been out
of the country for long time, that they have lost their fluency in current
farsi.
I just could not imagine that with the current speech pattern of many people
in the net, how people in Iran react to that? To me sounds very superficial.
For sure many netters would have problem to close a deal, sell their house,
sell their car, or do any important transaction, except that of very formal
ones, off course. Their dad or somebody else should give them a hand.
Any way not to be worry, you learn very fast if and when you go back some day.
Here is a test of your knowledge in current farsi:
What does these words means:
"Qarmazateh" "Your-red":
"Abyateh" "Your-blue":
"Debsh":
"Jamash-kon":
"Mokhlasam"( usually used by Raza):
I could just imagine that if some of the netters get involved in a traffic
accident in Tehran, people think he is a "mashang", " yaro mashange".
Babak Sehari.
Reza Modarres
Hi Babak,
I have been watching you!! In my absence it seems like you have made a
blunder. In the language you just spoke of, "Gard-o khak kardee".
Take it easy man. Just because you know a language does not mean you get to use
it. God is my witness, I know several languages, mostly dead though.
For instance I know "Zargharee", "anbghoree", "Ghonjishghee", etc. But, you
never see me post in any of those languages. Unless you want me to!
Reza
Ali Poursepanj
using words like "debsh". I though of making a few comments:
I consider expressions like "debsh", "khAli basten", "me khAmet", etc.
part of jAheli speaking. JAheli speaking has been interesting to many
Iranian educated people including myself. I sometimes talk Jaheli to a
few close
friends for fun and laghter. I think jAheli speaking is not part of
our nobel culture and it was introduced in late 60's and early 70's through
translation of foreign movies and later Farsi movies. I remember Fardin
or John Wayne use to say "NigA me koone" (What are you looking at?).
The domain of jAheli speaking in late 60's and early 70's were:
1) Movies:
- Farsi movies (film hAye abgooshti mesle Ganje GhAroon)
- Translation of American cowboy movies (especially John Waye movies)
- Translation of American gangster movies
2) cheap songs known as "Ahang hAye share no ee (whore house songs)"
( e. g. sare pole tajrish to cheekAr mikari..)
3) some sport clubs (especially bAstAni)
4) gambling houses
5) whore houses
6) Bars (kAfe hAyee mesle Ofogh talAee on Ferdosi Street @ Tehran)
.....
I belive that JAheli speaking in public is cheap and is not an honor,
some people do it for fun, some don't. If you speak jAheli, it does not
make you a macho or bachchee Tehroon, looti, or a real man. In the
other hand, if you don't speak jAheli, you are not neither a sissy nor a sisy!
Ali P.
Remark: Now I understand why our Iranian cowboy and John Wayne use similar
words !!
Sugar Daddy
>On the same note I remember when I used to go to Kharazmi high school in Tehran
>, there were always these new students who used to come from other cities or
>other "sosoli" high school. For them, our language used to sound very rude
>, to say the least. I remember some of them even used to turn red, when we
In other words, people from cities other than Tehran and your alleged "soosools" used
the same language (if it makes you feel better, I was born and raised in Tehran) and
any garbage that you say is good and non-Tehranis are the same as soosools. Get real
"bacheh fokoli". Don't flatter yourself too much. Your language (and writing capabilities
for that matter) only belong to the same level and depth of trash that you have been
derived from. I had friends in Kharazmi High School. Yes, people talk in a different
manner at different times and situations. No Kharazmi student would talk/write like
you in a public forum. And that is not even the gist of your problem. You have a serious
personal issue. You are in serious lack of touch. You violate the most basic teachings
of Islam and the Iranian culture. Respect and politeness towards your peers, your
neighbors, your parents, your friends; i.e. anybody you deal with. As you put it
yourself:
>
>May the word of the god, reach everybody; there are no excuse for those who
>heard the word of the god.
>
Remember "sha'ban bi-mokh" of the 28th of Mordad coup fame?? He is probably one of
your most admired figures. EVEN HE SOMETIMES MANAGED TO WATCH HIS MOUTH.
>review the biology of 1st year of high school. However, after a while, they
>get used to our language. Many of you have been outside of the country
>and do not know how the real people speak. One good example of this is
>those newspapers which are published in L.A.; they sound like a direct
>translation from an english text! May be, because their writers have been out
>of the country for long time, that they have lost their fluency in current
>farsi.
And you bacheh fokol, in the cultural center of the universe know how to
speak and write properly. You can't even spell your own trash buddy boy.
It is "sissy" and not "sisy".
As a friend once commented, the current Farsi that you refer to, is the
current Farsi of your "ammeh".
>
>I just could not imagine that with the current speech pattern of many people
>in the net, how people in Iran react to that? To me sounds very superficial.
That is because your mind is a very superficial one. Imagination is beyond you.
>For sure many netters would have problem to close a deal, sell their house,
>sell their car, or do any important transaction, except that of very formal
>ones, off course. Their dad or somebody else should give them a hand.
Maybe your daddy should give *you* a hand and teach you a lesson or two.
If he is not willing, come here to "San Fransico" and there are people
who will do that for you. At no cost.
>
>Any way not to be worry, you learn very fast if and when you go back some day.
>
>Here is a test of your knowledge in current farsi:
>
>What does these words means:
>
>"Qarmazateh" "Your-red":
>"Abyateh" "Your-blue":
>"Debsh":
>"Jamash-kon":
>"Mokhlasam"( usually used by Raza):
And this test's for you:
Boro Dareto Bezar va inghadr khali naband.
>
>I could just imagine that if some of the netters get involved in a traffic
>accident in Tehran, people think he is a "mashang", " yaro mashange".
>
> Babak Sehari.
No sweetheart. *YOU* are the prime mashang. And an absolute "haloo-pashandi".
But then you definitely serve a good purpose.
"Loghman ra goftand adab az keh amookhti?
Goft az bi-adaban. "
With apologies to everyone else.
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Babak Sehari
darad.
---
Babak Sehari, an Iranian Cowboy.
_______
| WSI |
==============
Babak Sehari
> 1) You like to be taken, or was that the misses?!
That was the soon to become Mrs.
> 2) You only like them "straight"!
Yes, I do like the straight girls.
> 3) No animal acts!
Explain more about "Animal Acts".
> I am just writting this out of concern. Some might say what you just
> spoke of may constitute a Freudian slip. Plus, you can't say you
> don't like it unless you try it once. Let me see that cowboy spiti,
> give it a try!
> RezA
Even though, I respect Freud; his postulates are not accepted by all
psychologists. There are two other school of thoughts in psychology
neo-Freudian and post-Freudian which replaced the original Freud's theories.
Also, you do not have to jump from top of a big building to discover that
you might die doing that. Reasoning would be enough in this case.
Babak.
David Fayegh
>Ma ka, koftiam kona Khar nemizarim, hala to hay Ar Ar kon ta az matated alaf
>darad.
BAbak: This type of language is really un-called for. What are you trying
to accomplish? Just imagine your parents reading this! How do you think
they will feel? Do you really think that they will be proud and say to their
friends: "hey look what bAbak wrote in s.c.i" As you have already noticed,
people hardly ever respond to your articles anymore and this trend will
likely continue. I recommend that you appologize to the net for using this
kind of language. I am sadly disappointed. --df
Farzin Mokhtarian
Good point, cowboy. Would Mr. Modarres rape someone to find out what
it is like to be a rapist or murder someone to find out what it is
like to be a murderer or break his legs to find out what it is like
to have broken legs?! I don't think so.
Farzin
Kamran
very delicately said Babak, I have 3 others that I think are more local,
from Isfahan:
1. GOOLE GOOZA KHORDAM GHARGHE KEKE SHODAM
2.AZ SHOTOR PORSIDAND CHERA SHASHET PASSE, GOFT CHICHIM MESLE HAMEH KASSE.
3. LAF DAR GHORBATO GOOZ DAR BAZA MESGARHA
I hope you enjoy them
Babak Sehari
>seh...@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
I respond to each person with the language he or she used + a little more.
You can not expect to insult people and people stay calm and not respond the
same. So, choose your weapon I respond with the similar weapon.
Also regarding responding to my articles, I receive so many Email That take
me an hour or so, each day to respond to them. Most people, write to me to
increase news reports on the net, and verify some other news that someone else
put on the net using The UPI database.
Babak.
Farzin Mokhtarian
From Kayhan Havai, issue # 946, page 27:
Iran, champion of the wrestling games at "Loudes" (sp?), Poland:
The team from Iran obtained 3 gold, 2 silver and 2 bronze medals
and 37 points to win first standing. Germany and Poland won the
second and third places. 12 countries participated including:
Poland, USSR, US, Germany, Canada, Turkey and Italy.
Farzin
Reza Modarres
In article <sehari.6...@vincent1.iastate.edu>, seh...@iastate.edu (Babak
Sehari) says:
>
>Ma ka, koftiam kona Khar nemizarim, hala to hay Ar Ar kon ta az matated alaf
>darad.
>
>Babak Sehari, an Iranian Cowboy.
> _______
> | WSI |
> ==============
Babak-e as-is,
So far, you have said much about your sextual preferences. If I
recall correctly
1) You like to be taken, or was that the misses?!
2) You only like them "straight"!
3) No animal acts!
I am just writting this out of concern. Some might say what you just
spoke of may constitute a Freudian slip. Plus, you can't say you
don't like it unless you try it once. Let me see that cowboy spirit,
Reza Modarres
Mr. Mokhtarian,
It is not possible for me to give a comprehensive answer in a short article.
I refer you to the articles I've written before on this matter. And also,
you may refer to my extensive research regarding the above!
You may consult different sources that contain such info., including but not
limited to someone's archives of SCI articles!
RezA
David Fayegh
fay...@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh) writes:
>I respond to each person with the language he or she used + a little more.
Why not + a little less or at most as much?
Babak Sehari
I have had many experiences with all types of people in the society. I have
learned that if you do not use more, they think that you are afraid to do that,
or maybe, you can not. Even worse yet, they get the feeling that they are
entitle to do that!
Do you remember when Iraqs used to use their rocket on Tehran? We used to
refrain to do the same, because we thought why should some innocent people
get into the cross fire. This refrain caused them to get more aggressive. As
I remember the only time they quit shooting their rocket was when we used our
rocket against them. So as you see, if we have used our rockets sooner we
could have saved more of our people at least.
With highest regards,
Babak Sehari.
S
>I have had many experiences with all types of people in the society.
It shows!
--S
Babak Sehari
>seh...@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) sez:
>It shows!
> --S
This is one the reasons why I could understand all types of people.
Babak.
Assana Fard
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>In <20...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ass...@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (Assana Fard) writes:
>
>
[ Cowboy's garbage decaffinated, as RezA put it!]
I was talking to a friend last night and he was concerned about me
replying to the cowboy's article. He considered it very degrading
for anyone in his/her right mind to associate with, reply to, or talk about
this creature...and I agree.
I just hope I haven't ruined my image on the net by doing so.
-assana
Babak Sehari
>In article <sehari.6...@vincent1.iastate.edu> seh...@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>t1.iastate.edu> <20...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
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>>In <20...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ass...@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (Assana Fard) writes:
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> [ Cowboy's garbage decaffinated, as RezA put it!]
>I was talking to a friend last night and he was concerned about me
>replying to the cowboy's article. He considered it very degrading
>for anyone in his/her right mind to associate with, reply to, or talk about
>this creature...and I agree.
>I just hope I haven't ruined my image on the net by doing so.
>-assana
[ass ana's garbage displayed for reference]
I was talking to a friend last night she was concerned about me
replying to the ass ana's article. She considered it very degrading for
anyone in his/her right mind to associte with, reply to, or talk about
this creature... and I agree.
I just hope I haven't ruined my image on the net by doing so.
Babak Sehari.
Reza Modarres
says:
>
>In article <sehari.6...@vincent1.iastate.edu> seh...@iastate.edu (Babak
>Sehari) writes:
>>t1.iastate.edu> <20...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
>>Sender: ne...@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
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>>In <20...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ass...@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (Assana Fard) :
>writes
>>
>>
> [ Cowboy's garbage decaffinated, as RezA put it!]
>
>I was talking to a friend last night and he was concerned about me
>replying to the cowboy's article. He considered it very degrading
>for anyone in his/her right mind to associate with, reply to, or talk about
>this creature...and I agree.
>
>I just hope I haven't ruined my image on the net by doing so.
>
>-assana
I don't know if any of you folks remember this. But, in "kAf show" staring
Parviz Sa'yAd and Mary Apeek, Mr. Sa'yAd used to say "Khanoum shomA hanoz dar
nazar man zeebA hasteed". And, so is the case here.
RezA
Reza Modarres
>
>>In article <sehari.6...@vincent1.iastate.edu> seh...@iastate.edu (Babak
>Sehari) writes:
>>>In <20...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ass...@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (Assana Fard)
>writes:
>>>
>>>
>> [ Cowboy's garbage decaffinated, as RezA put it!]
>
>>I was talking to a friend last night and he was concerned about me
>>replying to the cowboy's article. He considered it very degrading
>>for anyone in his/her right mind to associate with, reply to, or talk about
>>this creature...and I agree.
>
>>I just hope I haven't ruined my image on the net by doing so.
>
>>-assana
>
>
>I was talking to a friend last night she was concerned about me
>anyone in his/her right mind to associte with, reply to, or talk about
>this creature... and I agree.
>
>I just hope I haven't ruined my image on the net by doing so.
>
>---
>Babak Sehari, an Iranian Cowboy.
I promised myself not to respond to you. But, I can't let this one go.
Below, you see an excerpt from moo moo's earlier post claiming to have
been wrongly accused of insulting women.
".................... Moreover; I never insulted women. Even though,
I know about the techniques of these criminals to include all the innocent
people, such as women and other minorities, to get enough support for their
evil deeds. I protest in grouping of other honorable people such as women
and minorities, with this shameful crowed. Well, I suggest to women and
other minority groups to speak up, and do not let these shameful
crowed to abuse them for their political gains. After all, the women are
the mother of our most precious wealth, our next generations; they should
be even more careful not to let their children be harmed by these criminals.
Babak Sehari. ......................"
I think I rest my case!
RezA
P.S. Moo moo, you have no shame. Calling you a cow is an insult to cows.
You must be the only living brain donor.
Mr. Modarres to you!
Babak Sehari
Well, you can not even keep your own words! You call for a boycott against
me and first thing you do is to break the boycott yourself first thing in the
morning! Well I guess, you are very whimsical.
I reposted the complete article once again, So you can see it in it's complete
form:
As I said before, and repeated myself several times; I consider gays as
mentally impaired people, the same way as child abusers, wife batterer,
chain murderer, and so on. Since, they are permitted to perform their
act in United States, it does not mean that we should be a monkey and
do the same. See, if you talk to any of these criminals, they say what a
good person they are; However, they like to beat their wives or kill other
human beings, for example. Moreover; I never insulted women. Even though,
I know about the techniques of these criminals to include all the innocent
people, such as women and other minorities, to get enough support for their
evil deeds. I protest in grouping of other honorable people such as women
and minorities, with this shameful crowed. Well, I suggest to women and
other minority groups to speak up, and do not let these shameful
crowed to abuse them for their political gains. After all, the women are
the mother of our most precious wealth, our next generations; they should
be even more careful not to let their children be harmed by these criminals.
Babak Sehari.
Hossein Rafsanjani
PLEASE:
DO NOT tell the two resident `naabeghah`s on the net, that you won't respond
to their postings;
DO NOT tell them that they are not worthy of response;
DO NOT tell them that you won't read their postings;
DO NOT tell them that they are wasting bandwidth;
DO NOT tell them that they should be ashamed of themselves;
DO NOT tell them that they 'erz-e khod mi-barand-o zahmat-e maa midaarand'.
THEY ARE here to talk, not to listen.
It is said that Abu Ali Sina was afraid of cows. Asked why, he replied:
"az mowjudi ke az to zur-ash bishtar va aqlash kamtar ast baayad tarsid."
With apologies to all cows and asses. After all, as Sa`adi says:
Gaavaan-o kharaan-e baar bordaar
Beh z-aadamiaan-e mardom aazar.
-hossein
Farzin Mokhtarian
>
>THEY ARE here to talk, not to listen.
>
>It is said that Abu Ali Sina was afraid of cows. Asked why, he replied:
>"az mowjudi ke az to zur-ash bishtar va aqlash kamtar ast baayad tarsid."
>
>With apologies to all cows and asses. After all, as Sa`adi says:
>
> Gaavaan-o kharaan-e baar bordaar
> Beh z-aadamiaan-e mardom aazar.
Oh, there is one thing that was left out in my article titled
"I got pride!". Also be wary of people who in one way or
another had their interests tied in with the shah's regime
and are now more than willing to fabricate lies about IRI.
Farzin
Babak Sehari
>A plea to all (well, ALMOST all) posters and readers in this newsgroup.
>PLEASE:
>DO NOT tell the two resident `naabeghah`s on the net, that you won't respond
>to their postings;
>DO NOT tell them that they are not worthy of response;
>DO NOT tell them that you won't read their postings;
>DO NOT tell them that they are wasting bandwidth;
>DO NOT tell them that they should be ashamed of themselves;
>DO NOT tell them that they 'erz-e khod mi-barand-o zahmat-e maa midaarand'.
>THEY ARE here to talk, not to listen.
>It is said that Abu Ali Sina was afraid of cows. Asked why, he replied:
>"az mowjudi ke az to zur-ash bishtar va aqlash kamtar ast baayad tarsid."
>With apologies to all cows and asses. After all, as Sa`adi says:
> Gaavaan-o kharaan-e baar bordaar
> Beh z-aadamiaan-e mardom aazar.
>-hossein
You forgot to say:
DO NOT tell them that we can not come up with an intelligent answer to
your writings, so the only way that we could defend ourselves is either
to close our eyes and ears, or to make a personal attack on you.
DO NOT tell them that we are in process of planing a big dictatorship
for Iran, so all the people who talk should be censored.
DO NOT tell them that we are wasting bandwidth just to show that still
we exist.
DO NOT tell them that we are shameless people.
DO NOT tell them that we respond to you any time we can; other wise, if
we could not come up with a semi-intelligent response, we tell people
we do not respond to them.
DO NOT tell them that we even do not beleive on what we write that is why
we use a flack name, hoping to find a sucker to die for the things that
we do not even put our real name for.
DO NOT tell them that there are no answers to the truth.
DO NOT tell them that we are here to make noise.
DO NOT tell them that even we do not know why we are oppose to them!
DO NOT tell them that nobody consider us seriously.
the above statements were missing from your original posting, so I
decided to write for you.
Mick Washbrook
>
> As I said before, and repeated myself several times; I consider gays as
> mentally impaired people, the same way as child abusers, wife batterer,
> chain murderer, and so on. Since, they are permitted to perform their
No! Surely not! And here I was, Babble, thinking that you were an
intelligent, progressive member of the human species. Boy! You sure
pulled the wool over *my* eyes, I can tell you!!
> act in United States, it does not mean that we should be a monkey and
> do the same. See, if you talk to any of these criminals, they say what a
> good person they are; However, they like to beat their wives or kill other
> human beings, for example. Moreover; I never insulted women. Even though,
For the life of me, I can't imagine what kind of homosexuals you've been
speaking to. I've certainly run into "homosexuals" (let's call them "gay,"
ok?) that I wouldn't want as friends, and I've run into straight people
I consider the same way. The difference is, is that I don't infer that
all straight people, as a group, are bad or evil just because some
individuals here and there are bigoted, repressed, mean-spirited
jerks. Know whadda mean? As I'm sure readers of sci are now aware of,
it takes *all kinds* to make a world; right, Babble? Listen, my friend,
you've obviously got a *big* hang-up over this. I can appreciate that
Islam does not tolerate homosexuality (even though I've had sex with
enough Iranian men to know that that quickly becomes a non-issue),
but America is not an Islamic country. You might feel real warm inside
knowing that gay Persians are being executed in your country, but then
I wouldn't expect anything else from you at this point.
And if you haven't insulted women--hell, are you going to let this
great opportunity go right by you? Just think of the extra net notoriety
you can achieve! Babble has just insulted 50% of the human race--hurrah!
Now we'll *really* remember his name! Too bad he's still a jerk, but what
the hell!
> I know about the techniques of these criminals to include all the innocent
> people, such as women and other minorities, to get enough support for their
> evil deeds. I protest in grouping of other honorable people such as women
> and minorities, with this shameful crowed. Well, I suggest to women and
> other minority groups to speak up, and do not let these shameful
> crowed to abuse them for their political gains. After all, the women are
> the mother of our most precious wealth, our next generations; they should
> be even more careful not to let their children be harmed by these criminals.
So, you know all about our, ahem, "techniques" do you, Babble? Thrill us,
do! I think you're being pursued in your nightmares by a faceless crowd
of Threatening Homosexuals when, sadly, what you're really scared of
is yourself. I have no argument or issue with anybody who sees homosexual
sex as disgusting--I see heterosexual sex as disgusting, too! It's called
orientation. Tell me, Babble, what are you going to do with those children
who are gay when they're born? Gay babies? Are you going to roast them on
the spit of your intolerance? Crush their spirit until they can only
mumble meaningless platitudes about honor and integrity? If you really
value children, then love them enough to let them grow naturally; we're
present in all generations, all countries; you can kill us, but we'll
be back.
In the meanwhile, I can only dream of an Iran where men and women can
walk proud and free, free from fear of others and themselves. Can you
dream too, Babak?
"I'm not *that* conscious."
Owen Rowley
Assana Fard
>
>You forgot to say:
>
[article deleted...]
Do I detect the use of a spell-checker? Or am i just dreaming?
:)
-assana
Babak Sehari
>-assana
Right, babe...
--Babak