試用 gitter, bearychat 以取代 wechat 做為 SHLUG 的即時溝通工具

[DaboD]

Hello:

目前 SHLUG 使用 wechat 做為即時討論的溝通管道, 有幾個問題

* 不好管理歷始記錄

* 不好搜尋

* 除手持裝置外, 其他平台支持/功能不全

* 沒法美美的貼上代碼

* 加新人要關聯銀行卡...

所以想說是否大家會考慮試用 gitter or bearychat ?

gitter 壞處先說下

* 不像 wechat 那麼普及

* 以 github 帳號認證 (見仁見智)

* Server 在國外, 目前直接上使用起來很平順, 但難保哪天...

bearychat 可能的問題

* 不像 wechat 那麼普及

* 目前還沒看到上千人的 chat room

gitter 好處

* 解決上面 wechat 的種種問題

* web 界面功能完善

* 支持大多數主流平台 - https://gitter.im/apps

* 已有上千人的 chat room

* 已有不少 github 項目用它做為討論管道 (這個跟 SHLUG 比較無關)

bearychat 的好處

* 解決上面 wechat 的種種問題

* web 界面功能完善

* 支持大多數主流平台 - https://bearychat.com/

* Server 在中國境內 (見仁見智)

[Gareth]

大家不是都用irc的么...

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呃，

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[DaboD]

但圖 & 碼不好貼, 沒歷史記錄 ;)

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[Gareth]

找个好使的irc工具就好，我用的irccloud这些功能都有，手机推送都有

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[DaboD]

但我的標的是 wechat 不是 irc, 哈

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[Richard (legist 強)]

不反對改用其他 IM，但現在確實是微信群比較有在討論吧。

另外想問，SHLUG 現在有 IRC？

找个好使的irc工具就好，我用的irccloud这些功能都有，手机推送都有

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[Yang Fan]

bearychat最新的android版有bug，连接不上服务器，好久了还没发新版。

另外，不考虑telegram么？

Regards,

Fan Yang

[DaboD]

是的, bearychat 的 android client 實在不好用, 所以我比較推薦 gitter. SHLUG 上聊的東西很廣... 有些議題似乎用國內的服務討論也不是那麼 OK.

Telegram 的話, 跟 wechat 一樣是用做 instant messenger 的, 在想貼代碼即時討論技術方面的東西時會比較麻煩些, 且看起來群有人數的上限 (https://telegram.org/faq#q-what-is-telegram-what-do-i-do-here)

With Telegram, you can send messages, photos, videos and files of any type (doc, zip, mp3, etc), as well as create groups for up to 200 people or channels for broadcasting to unlimited audiences.

找个好使的irc工具就好，我用的irccloud这些功能都有，手机推送都有

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SHLUG主要鼓励大家在邮件列表进行技术的交流

微信群不算是官方的行为，只是建立着用来大家闲聊用的

2015-11-02 13:26 GMT+08:00 DaboD <daid...@gmail.com>:

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[DaboD]

嗯~ 好吧, 如果是閒聊的話那是非常足夠了 ;)

SHLUG主要鼓励大家在邮件列表进行技术的交流

微信群不算是官方的行为，只是建立着用来大家闲聊用的

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[DaboD]

或是, 考慮用 gitter 當介於 wechat & mailing list 間的一個選擇? 能討論技術問題, 又是即時的溝通管道.

On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 4:55:02 PM UTC+8, ghosTM55 wrote:

SHLUG主要鼓励大家在邮件列表进行技术的交流

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[Yu Changyuan]

不知道服务的持续性如何？会不会用了半年，然后公司倒闭了？

wechat大概不用太担心这个问题。

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[vvoody]

不如Telegram了。

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[Doyle]

slack？

2015-11-02 13:26 GMT+08:00 DaboD <daid...@gmail.com>:

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Slack 也很 OK 的, 雖然被牆了, 但大家應該都出得去才是

slack？

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[DaboD]

主要管道還是 mailing list + wechat, 其他像 gitter/slack/bearychat/... 則是當做一個可以即時討論技術, 介於 mailing list & wechat 間的另一個選擇.

不知道服务的持续性如何？会不会用了半年，然后公司倒闭了？

wechat大概不用太担心这个问题。

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[Yang Fan]

gitter貌似创建room依赖于github的repo，感觉有点怪怪的

不知道服务的持续性如何？会不会用了半年，然后公司倒闭了？

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[Derek Dai]

gitter 的 room 跟 repo 沒有關係的.

另外, 我的初衷只是想找個能更方便討論技術 (閒聊也無所謂) 的平台, 不限定上面提到的 gitter/bearychat/slack/..., 只要好用, 另外就像昌遠說的, 服務不要一下就掛掉了, 就是選擇之一.

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[Chaos Eternal]

说起IRC,

freenode上的 #shlug 一直在的。只是里面常年只有一个人，偶尔有我。

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[Derek Dai]

強大的 browser 改變了許多使用習慣

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[孑影]

没有人考虑xmpp吗 ？

#风起看云涌，叶落品人生#

2015-11-04 11:36 GMT+08:00 Chaos Eternal <chaose...@shlug.org>:

[Derek Dai]

重點應該不是 protocol, 而是界面跟功能

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[Yu Changyuan]

我觉得ml和wechat太脱节了，最好ml和im可无缝的对接。

较为严肃的讨论可很方便的切到ml去，而ml有新邮件在im里面也能有通知。irc里面很多bot就是做这样的，这样讨论的氛围会好好多。而wechat因为先天原因（私有协议，无开放api），基本没办法实现。

此外，引导新成员使用ml也很重要。

[Felix Shao]

羞问如何加入wechat群聊？

[Bash Horatio]

用wechat的定位就是熟人间闲聊的工具，除了比较普及，完全不适合作为技术交流平台

Horatio# Scala&Spark

[Daniel Qian]

试试看 gitter.im

[Bash Horatio]

gitter是很好的im平台，很多国外的开发者在用。全平台兼容，和github以及一些开发工具集成的很好

Horatio# Scala&Spark