Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
James McGinn, in
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news:d3de10ac-621d-4177...@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 9:44:28 AM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
>> You kooktard, the dry line is a result of warm dry air being more
>> dense than warm humid air (which, I will note, you deny), thus that
>> warm dry air wedges beneath that warm humid air, sending the warm
>> humid air aloft in a process known as frontal lifting.
> Right. I deny it because it is fiction. As I've explained, explicitly.
And that's a result of your inability to comprehend let alone
calculate molar volume and molar mass, James. Your stupidity and lack
of education yet again bite you on the ass.
>> The warm humid air at altitude is less dense than the cooler, drier
>> air surrounding it, creating a boundary slope of reversal. The change
>> in wind direction due to this boundary slope of reversal causes a
>> horizontal spinning effect in the mid troposphere... *not* in the
>> fucking jet stream at the tropopause. You're looking at 5 to 20
>> *thousand* *feet* altitude difference, you moron.
>>
>> That warm moist updrafting air tilts this horizontally spinning air
>> vertically, creating a mesocyclone. This can, under strong updraft,
>> generate cyclonic vortexes... and hence tornadoes.
>>
>> This is why I told you that roller clouds are failed tornadoes...
>> those roller clouds are the horizontally spinning air which the warm
>> humid updraft air tilt vertically to form tornadoes. Roller clouds are
>> formed and not tilted vertically because insufficient warm humid air
>> exists to tilt them.
>>
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http://www.met.tamu.edu/class/atmo202/Severedir/severe-wx-stu.html>
> It wedges? So, you believe dry air has the ability to "wedge?"
That's exactly what it does, James. Thus frontal lifting occurs. Now
you're denying that warmer air is less dense and thus has more
buoyancy than cooler air. Again.
Why can't your broken brain acknowledge reality, Jim? Which direction
does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not? That's convection
due to temperature-induced density differential, is it not?
Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity, James?
Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due to lack
of oxygen. So your k'laming that convection doesn't exist means you're
further k'laming that gravity does not exist, and fire cannot burn for
very long before it is smothered due to lack of oxygen. Or were you
not aware that convection is a gravity-induced phenomenon due to
density differential?
> And you believe this because a site on the internet offered
> this explanation.
Not just that, James, because *every* *single* *website* on the
internet offers the same explanation, because it represents reality. A
reality that has been closely empirically studied for far longer than
you've been alive.
In addition, the explanation on those websites coincides with what has
been empirically observed via rigorous scientific experiments for 250+
years, whereas your kooky 'theory' has to rely upon fairy tale
constructs and impossibilities, and even then you can't explain a wide
swath of common phenomena.
> It never occurred to you to think carefully about what a wedge
> actually is and the fact that it is impossible for a gas to
> possess the structural properties necessary to actually effectuate
> such mechanical abilities.
You're blathering, Jim. Don't do that, it makes you look stupid.
In fact, air can form all sorts of aerodynamics shapes. Do you deny
that air can form vortexes in the form of tornadoes, Jim? That's a
pretty severe "structural property" with a high energy gradient, yet
you deny that air can form "structural properties" with lower energy
gradients?
Do you know anything about aerodynamics, James? Do you not realize
that according to Stoke's Law and the Navier-Stokes Equations, a
denser air front moving into a less-dense air front *must* form a
wedge shape to minimize aerodynamic drag? That's why the Navier-Stokes
equation is used to model the atmosphere, James.
The downwardly drafting wedge, constrained by the ground, forms a
streamlined half-body shape. This forces the warm moist air to updraft
due to density differences. The warm updrafting air reaches an
altitude where temperature drops enough that the gaseous-phase water
can condense, forming clouds. The shear between the upwardly and
downwardly drafting air fronts creates a horizontal rolling. If the
updraft is strong enough, it can tilt this vertically, forming a
mesocyclone. Dependent upon updraft speed and shear differential
speed, this can develop into a tornado. Once the tornado reaches near
the ground, it actively sucks up that warm moist air, thereby
strengthening because the updraft is faster. You'll note tornadoes are
not sustainable over water colder than the air, or over snow if the
air temperature is at or above ground temperature. Because cloud
formation and tornadoes are a form of heat movement. No temperature
differential, no density differential, no energy for movement.
Perhaps if you educated yourself, rather than blathering out your
moronism, you'd realize why you're a laughingstock, Jim.
Oh look, a photograph of an exceptionally strong wedge as a result of
orographic lifting:
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http://www.bowerhillonline.net/cloud/cloud10.jpg>
Oh look, a roll cloud, a result of the same shear phenomenon I told
you about, a failed mesocyclone because insufficient warm humid
updrafting air existed to tilt it vertically:
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http://www.bowerhillonline.net/cloud/cloud13.jpg>
Oh look, another well-defined wedge as outlined along the right-hand
edge of the clouds:
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http://www.bowerhillonline.net/cloud/cloud15.jpg>
Oh look, more roll clouds, multiples of them, brought about by the
unique geography of North Australia's Gulf of Carpentaria:
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http://www.bowerhillonline.net/cloud/cloud21.jpg>
Don't you hate that you're so delusional that you've been proven
*wrong* on every single thing you've been blathering, James?
> One can only imagine what other explanations you might have bought.
> If they had described a big hammer and nails in the sky would you
> have agreed with that too? How about a saw? We could even go
> further and describe the winds as the result of a big fan in the sky.
>
> Gee golly, science is fun!
You're babbling again, James. Don't do that, it makes you look stupid.
Try presenting corroborating evidence to support your contentions...
oh, wait, you can't because there is none. LOL
> BTW, there are people going around telling other people that
> 1/20th of one percent of the gasses in the atmosphere (CO2)
> effectuate the same properties of a glass enclosure, trapping
> heat the same way your car does on a sunny day. This is
> referred to as the greenhouse effect. Surely you believe that
> too, right?
No, James. Just as I've destroyed your kooky little 'theory', I've
destroyed CO2-induced AGW. Reality dictates that you're wrong.
Further, your refusal to perform that simple experiment which will
definitively null your premise and thus null your suppositions and
thus null your kooky 'theory' stands as your tacit admission that you
know you're wrong, but you're too cowardly to admit it, James.
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If, as you claim, latent heat of evaporation doesn't exist because a
phase change doesn't occur upon evaporation and thus clusters of water
are launching into the air upon evaporation, then the *only* heat that
can be carried away is specific heat, which would be equivalent to
2326 J/kg.
If, however, as Joseph Black and innumerable scientists since the
1700s have proven, latent heat of evaporation *does* exist, there will
be 2,500,000 J/kg carried away. This result will null the underlying
premise of your claims, James, thus disproving your entire "theory".
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It's a simple experiment, and given that you, James Bernard McGinn,
Jr. of Antioch, CA, have made claims that fly in the face of 250+
years of experimentally, empirically measured data, the onus is upon
you to prove your claims.
In the balance hangs Mr. McGinn either likely being nominated for a
Nobel Prize for overturning 250+ years of rigorously and empirically
measured scientific data, or his being forced to retract his claims,
and his claims being subsumed into the heap of odd theories that are
used as examples of wrong-headedness. And in the process, his being
forced to admit he is a delusional kooktard.
Does anyone wonder why Mr. McGinn continues to refuse to prove his
claims?
Your refusal to substantiate your claims, Mr. McGinn, further proves
what I said was right... you prefer your delusion, in which you paint
yourself as smarter than every scientist in the last 250+ years, to
reality.
But you're not smarter, James. You are demonstrably delusional.
> I've been developing my own theory about regional shifts air
> pressure. It involves a great big, invisible seesaw.
I'm sure it does, Jim. After all, you've employed fairy tale
constructs such as atmospheric water plasma; your denial of latent
heat of evaporation; your kooky claim that the jet stream is a giant
tornado just waiting to reach down and wreak destruction upon the
planet's surface; and various and sundry other babbling insanity.
I also note you ran away from yet another tough question, James.
They're stacking up and you're finding yourself utterly unable to
answer any of them...
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Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?
Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your k'laming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further k'laming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?
How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?
Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?
How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct so your claims have even a semblance of
plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and dissociation
energy of water are identical, and thus the water will dissociate into
hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an extremely energetic laser, Jim?
Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?
How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?
Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?