Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 1/03/08.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
gah...@gmail.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Given the universal academic and secular fact that Christ was born
between 7 BC and 1 BC with the great majority finding 6 to 4 BC to be
the most likely window Christ's birth was 2011 to 2013 years ago. The
second generally accepted fact is that no one has nailed down the date
but all agree it was most definitely not December 25th.
If your medical research and though processes are as accurate as your
ability to comprehend the readily available information about Christ's
birth I am glad you are not my doctor.
I guess this would be proof that you do sin -- by choosing to state
false factoids you are lying.
Don't embarrass yourself by claiming "the Holy Spirit" has given you
-- and only you -- some revelation that has been missed by all the
modern students of the Bible. The Catholic church has for a very long
time declared that the calendar was set using incorrect records.
Please give the source for your idea that this is the "2008th year
since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ"
May God have mercy on all our souls.
GA Hoya
gah...@gmail.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Given the universal academic and secular fact that Christ was born
between 7 BC and 1 BC with the great majority finding 6 to 4 BC to be
the most likely window Christ's birth was 2011 to 2013 years ago. The
second generally accepted fact is that no one has nailed down the date
but all agree it was most definitely not December 25th.
If your medical research and though processes are as accurate as your
ability to comprehend the readily available information about Christ's
birth I am glad you are not my doctor.
I guess this would be proof that you do sin -- by choosing to state
false factoids you are lying.
Don't embarrass yourself by claiming "the Holy Spirit" has given you
-- and only you -- some revelation that has been missed by all the
modern students of the Bible. The Catholic church has for a very long
time declared that the calendar was set using incorrect records.
Please give the source for your idea that this is the "2008th year
since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ"
May God have mercy on all our souls.
GA Hoya
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/57053.html
> >
> > May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
> > 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
> > Man ...
> >
> > ... by being hungrier:
> >
> > http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
> >
> > Hunger is wonderful :-)
> >
> > It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
> >
> > Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
> > paid for with their and our immortal lives.
> >
> > Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
> > of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
> >
> > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
> >
> > "Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
> >
> > ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
> >
> > Amen.
> >
> > Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
> >
> > Andrew <><
>
> between 7 BC and 1 BC with the great majority finding 6 to 4 BC to be
> the most likely window Christ's birth was 2011 to 2013 years ago. The
> second generally accepted fact is that no one has nailed down the date
> but all agree it was most definitely not December 25th.
"... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
19:26)
Amen.
> If your medical research and though processes are as accurate as your
> ability to comprehend the readily available information about Christ's
> birth I am glad you are not my doctor.
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> I guess this would be proof that you do sin -- by choosing to state
> false factoids you are lying.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
Your false witness is forgiven by me.
This simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have stopped sinning and are right
with GOD ...
... though we remain sinners:
We are neither more perfect nor more special...
... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Robert Weldon
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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Sorry, nutbar, but what was posted was historical fact, and your handwaving
won't change that.
>> If your medical research and though processes are as accurate as your
>> ability to comprehend the readily available information about Christ's
>> birth I am glad you are not my doctor.
>
> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Without sanity, your blathering is meaningless.
>
>> I guess this would be proof that you do sin -- by choosing to state
>> false factoids you are lying.
>
> It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
But it was just shown that you are wrong, so you continuing to post
otherwise means that you are not writing truthfully, but are in fact lying,
which is a sin, remember?
>
> Your false witness is forgiven by me.
It isn't false witness, but an accurate observation.
>
> This simply shows that you are lost:
No, it shows that you are insane.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Again, you do not have much longer:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/RobertWeldon
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert
Robert Weldon
Sorry, nutbar, it is merely an accurate way to describe you, based on your
net history. And it does not change the fact that you are wrong, it is
common knowledge that Dec. 25 is not the day of Jesus's birth.
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> Again, you do not have much longer:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/RobertWeldon
Is that link supposed to mean something? Sorry, but links to your own posts
are meaningless.
>
> May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
> pray for your endangered soul:
Snipping without attribution is a form of lying, which is a sin, which makes
your statement above a lie.
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
How is that working for you, nutbar? Are you praying to get your medical
certification back? Has it worked yet?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Sorry, nutbar...
Perseveration simply shows that GOD is allowing your cognitive
functions to deteriorate.
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your endangered body and soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
gah...@gmail.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ok point one --
Bible verse ripped out of context are not useful
your version
> "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> 19:26)
Matt 19 : 23 - 26
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of
a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and
asked, "Who then can be saved?"
26 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but
with God all things are possible."
Reading the verse in context it has nothing to do with setting the
date of Christ's birth.
Christ is telling the disciples that there is no way man can earn
salvation that it only comes from the FATHER through the SON.
Your facination with randomly selecting snippets of verse to make your
points does not work if folks read the Bible. Maybe that is God's
purpose for your annoying habits you may have caused many folks to
read the Bible. That alone is not worth the damage your dieatary
advice could casue diabetics and others who have medical reasons to
eat restricted diets.
>
> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
My opinion that I am glad you are not my doctor is not meaningless.
For my heatlth and well being my choices of physicians to see are very
important. I carefully choose bright, moral doctors who are actively
engaged in life long learning. All of the doctors I know and have
professional relationships with would agree that one's choice of
physician is far from meaningless.
BTW to steal from "Princess Bride" Ecclesiastes may not mean what you
think it means.
Somewhat like the Matthew 19 the theme is how useless it is to think
we as humans can control this world.
> > I guess this would be proof that you do sin -- by choosing to state
> > false factoids you are lying.
>
> It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
>
Stating that this year is the 2008th anniversary of the birth of
Christ is factually incorrect. It realy does not matter what year
Jesus was born but to knowingly type a falsehood is not a good thing.
I am glad you intend to write truthfully. Please do so.
To inadvertantly pass on incorrect information is not the same as to
knowingly lie.
Thankfully this is not my problem but something you and God will have
to work out. He knows whether you are being truthful.
> Your false witness is forgiven by me.
>
> This simply shows that you are lost:
>
God and I would disagree with you and HIS opinion is the one that
counts.
1 Samuel 16:7
But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his
height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things
man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks
at the heart."
Just as Samuel could not see why David was God's choice you will never
see what GOd sees in anyone else.
So sorry I know it will make you sad that I have accepted the free
gift of salvation God has provided through Christ. I once was dead in
sin but my heart was awakened by the Holy Spirit.
> The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have stopped sinning and are right
> with GOD ...
>
> ... though we remain sinners:
>
My debts have been paid though I will continue to live out the
consequences of some of my choices past, present and future. I will
not be perfect until God Glorifies me.
I am happy with the process of sactification I live out each day.
Please find a group of mature believers with whom to fellowship, study
and worship.
Only God knows your heart. I pray you are saved.
Your writings on the internet are those of an immature Christian who
has not taken the time to study the Bible.
GA Hoya
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Bible verse ripped out of context are not useful
>
> your version
> > "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> > 19:26)
Amen.
Yes, GOD is omnipotent.
> Matt 19 : 23 - 26
>
> 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard
> for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
> 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of
> a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
>
> 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and
> asked, "Who then can be saved?"
>
> 26 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but
> with God all things are possible."
>
> Reading the verse in context it has nothing to do with setting the
> date of Christ's birth.
It has everything to do with GOD being omnipotent...
... able to allow a rich man to enter HIS kingdom...
... able to thread a camel through the eye of a needle...
... able to have this year be the 2008th year since the birth of our
LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man.
Your failed attempt to put GOD in a box and limit HIS powers simply
shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender soon by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
J666
> and worship.
> Only God knows your heart. I pray you are saved.
> Your writings on the internet are those of an immature Christian who
> has not taken the time to study the Bible.
>
> GA Hoya
Chungy want a kitty does not follow the standard scientific method of
medicine, so why should he worry about the Bible.
He really just bibble babbles.
DarkSentinel
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>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in
> message
> news:759f55e2-0d87-4df7...@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>> neighbor GH (gah...@gmail.com) wrote:
Can ya'll PLEASE NOT quote his silly ass? Defeats my killfile...lol
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> "Robert Weldon" <rweldon....@jrpspamblock.ca> wrote in message
> > snip <
>
> Can ya'll PLEASE NOT quote his silly ass? Defeats my killfile...lol
Thanks for snipping it, DS. I hate wading through a bunch of stuff by some
guy I've kf'd, only to get to a one line rebuttal. Unfortunately, it
happens on a lot of NG's.
Take care.
--
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
>
> <something neologistically unintelligible>
Yes, GH's soul is in danger:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
In the awesome name of LORD Jesus Christ, I rebuke you one more before
an ever-growing cloud of cheering witnesses both here and in heaven:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for dear convicted neighbor GH and others similarly convicted by
the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
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Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Pastor Frank
for you argue with love, faith and belief, as if those were factoids. Your
facts are irrelevant in the face of faith love and belief. To try and
convince Andy of some academic points totally irrelevant to his love, faith
and belief in the person of Jesus Christ, is like convincing you that your
grand child is not the most beautiful and intelligent child in the world.
Your screeching "you are insane" only makes a clown out of you.
--
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Pastor Frank
meds or see a shrink, for you are seeing things that aren't there and
posting non sequitur galore, all symptoms of advancing insanity.
Check again above. Andy says that hunger is wonderful, which I dare say
is the only mindset which makes losing weight permanently a feasibility and
causes you to live longer and better.
J666
>
> Where does Andy claim, that Jesus was born Dec. 25? You better take your
> meds or see a shrink, for you are seeing things that aren't there and
> posting non sequitur galore, all symptoms of advancing insanity.
> Check again above. Andy says that hunger is wonderful, which I dare say
> is the only mindset which makes losing weight permanently a feasibility and
> causes you to live longer and better.
Obviously Chungy Want a Ktty's diet has caused you too to lose the
needed fat in the brain which the brain needs to function.
What is that brown stuff on your nose?
Robert Weldon
"Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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Hunger is a sign that your body needs fuel, that's it. Going hungry puts
your body into starvation mode, something that humans evolved to survive
droughts, and slows the metabolism down, hindering weight loss attempts.
Andy is insane, I considered you to be a lying creationist fundie, but I am
beginning to think you have mental problems also.
gah...@gmail.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
First, Pastor Frank is correct. Andrew has not stated that December
25th is the day of Christ's birth. I was wrong to assume Andrew
believed that becasue he insists on this being the 2008th anniversary
of coming of God as man. I was wrong to attribute to Andrew the
belief that Christ was born on December 25th.
RE Matthew 19
> > Reading the verse in context it has nothing to do with setting the
> > date of Christ's birth.
>
> It has everything to do with GOD being omnipotent...
>
> ... able to allow a rich man to enter HIS kingdom...
>
> ... able to thread a camel through the eye of a needle...
>
> ... able to have this year be the 2008th year since the birth of our
> LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man.
>
> Your failed attempt to put GOD in a box and limit HIS powers simply
> shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
As for this concept of lost people being convicts
When I was convicted (i.e. became aware) of my sins I accepted the
redemption offered by God through Christ. As with the theme of book
of Ecclesiastes your presented view of "conviction" may not be the
same as many others.
I don't know everything but I do know God can not be contained by me.
Here are several Bible verses I think define what I believe about my
reationship to God.
Micah 6:8
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require
of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your
God.
Romans 12:2
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be
transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to
test and approve what God's will is - His good, pleasing and perfect
will.
Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to
advice.
Proverbs 15:22
Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisors they succeed.
Isaiah 32:17
The fruit of righteousness will be peace; the effect of righteousness
will be quietness and confidence forever.
Psalm 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path.
1 Corinthians 10:31
Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the
glory of God.
These verse and others give me guidance in my daily walk with my
Father.
I believe God created me to worship HIM and to live fully in the world
HE created.
HE commands us to enjoy HIS creation.
He never tells us to worship by continual hunger. If there is a verse
which says eat a minimal amount and you will be closer to me I have
not read it.
God calls us to feast and celebrate life. Prodigal son was welcomed
with a great feast. God did not say everyone eat less fro all of your
days and I will bless you.
Fellowship with fellow believers has been tied to eating together
since the earliest days of the WORD.
What verses do you base your beliefs upon?
>
> May you wisely choose to surrender soon by publicly declaring with
> your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
As I have said before it is not what man sees but the condition of my
heart as seen by God that matters.
I declare Christ is my lord through words, prayers, actions and love
of those God brings into my life. Not just the ones I enjoy loving.
If we were just called to love those we like it would make God seem
weak.
May God have mercy on our souls as we go about HIS work.
Ga Hoya
gah...@gmail.com
> "Robert Weldon" <rweldon.spambl...@jrpspamblock.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:Cdhfj.952$uV6.928@pd7urf1no...
>
>
>
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in
Pastor Frank you are correct.
Andrew has not stated that December 25th is the day of Christ's
birth. I was wrong to assume Andrew believed that becasue he insists
on this being the 2008th anniversary of the coming of God as man. I
was wrong to attribute to Andrew the belief that Christ was born on
December 25th.
Ga Hoya
J666
>
> May God have mercy on our souls as we go about HIS work.
>
> Ga Hoya
And just whom decides exactly what is his work? Different people have
different ideas, including killing all the infidels to "convicting"
those who disagree with Parrot Chungy's 2 pound OMER crap.
gah...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Others search Google better than I do
Andrew did post this in 2005
"Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7 seals on
His birthday (12/25/2005)"
Source:
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.atheism
Subject: Conqueror bent on conquest: The Lamb opened the 1st of the 7
seals on
His birthday (12/25/2005)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:21:38 -0500
Organization: http://www.heartmdphd.com
Message-ID: <43B13FE2...@heartmdphd.com>
An email from another gave me this link to a message posted by Andrew
The email said Andrew was announcing the opening of the 7 seals of
Revelation.
Missed that must have been a real circus.
here is the link
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/browse_thread/thread/0cce62dfff3a8e4a/0912ef3570a79616?#0912ef3570a79616
Ga Hoya
gah...@gmail.com
At the end of the day Andrew Chung will be held accountabl by God.
As a believer I have the knowledge that God knows all I do. I try to
do right and admit the times I screw up. I am human, HE is perfect. I
am glad HE is in control.
Unfortunately folks who do not think God has real power to do behave
horridly.
Just becasue someone claims to be acting in God's name does not mean
they are doing HIS will.
As a Christian the worst group to deal with are egotistical
"christians" who run around yelling about how much God approves of
their bad behavior.
My hope is I can be the kind of person who acts in a way that is
respectful and loving. I believe it is better to be ready to answer
the questions, i.e. "This is stressful how can you be calm?" , with an
explaination of why I can have peace in a frantic situation than to
run around yelling, "You are a sinner and I am saved." If I am a jerk
no one will want "what I have".
Andrew thinks rejection of him is a rejection of God, Christ and the
Holy Spirit. Andrew's ego will not allow him to realize that his
behavior is offensive. Folks who think they are perfect are
dangerous.
I disagree with Andrew's theology, dietary advice and judgemental
declarations.
God is big enough to handle Andrew.
Hope you have many interactions with good folks and minimal with
jerks.
Ga Hoya
J666
>
> As a believer I have the knowledge that God knows all I do. I try to
> do right and admit the times I screw up.
Strictly speaking you have the belief, not the knowledge, that God
knows all you do. Religion is based on faith which means it cannot be
proved. We have the knowledge that the earth revolves around our sun,
what you have in your statement is a belief not knowledge.
People who believe in God can be just as good or bad as those who do
not.
What is important is to respect each others views and not try to
impose one's view on others, because no matter how strongly one
believes, it is not actually knowing for sure.
The more radical and absurd believers really do hurt the others of the
same belief.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> 25th is the day of Christ's birth. I was wrong to assume Andrew
> believed that becasue he insists on this being the 2008th anniversary
> of coming of God as man. I was wrong to attribute to Andrew the
> belief that Christ was born on December 25th.
Again, your bearing false witness has been forgiven by me though you
address others here in your response to what the Holy Spirit has
guided me to write and post here on usenet.
You clearly know not what you are doing because you suffer from the
powerful delusion that hunger is bad.
"Forgive them Father for they know not what they are doing." -- LORD
Jesus Christ, while nailed to the cross at Golgatha.
Amen.
Clinically, this does mean you are mentally ill.
May we, who are not mentally ill because we do not suffer from the
powerful delusion described in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11, continue to
pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForGH
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
BusinessAc...@gmail.com
> declarations.
Any sane person would realize from reading what Chung writes, that
what he writes is not consistent with religious and scientific thought
and is ridiculous. Chung actually is his own worst enemy when it
comes to expressing his views.
Ga Hoya
Your observation about knowledge and belief is valid.
I am not a wordsmith. I do agree that we should not force our beliefs
on others.
We are not a party in determining others relationship with God.
One other point to clear up
In an earlier message I typed "Unfortunately folks who do not think
God has real power to do behave horridly."
People who do not believe is God do frequently behave morally,
honestly and humanly.
A sentence that better expresses my thoughts is
"Unfortunately there are self identified "christians" who do not think
God has real power who do behave horridly."
Salvation is not a resulot of behavior nor is evidence of it always
expressed by behavior.
Back to that humans having good days and bad days.
Ga Hoya
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> convicted neighbor GH expressed the meaningless opinion:
>
> > I disagree with Andrew's theology, dietary advice and judgemental
> > declarations.
>
> Any sane person would realize from reading what Chung writes,
Dear neighbor GH is not sane because of your planting the lie that
hunger is bad in GH's heart.
This is the powerful delusion that GOD has allowed to happen to those
who do not either know or love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ (2
Thessalonians 2:9-11):
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Bottom line:
You remains the source of all lies, satan.
As it is written, you have been a liar and murderer from the outset.
Indeed, dear neighbor GH is being murdered by you.
May we, who are sane because we no longer suffer from the powerful
delusion that hunger is bad, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-given
opportunity:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
Ga Hoya
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> You clearly know not what you are doing because you suffer from the
> powerful delusion that hunger is bad.
No delusion. Hunger is not bad or good. Hunger is a reaction to a
decrease in the glycogen level of the liver.
"Insulin is the "fed state" hormone and it stimulates glucose uptake
and glycogen synthesis in
liver and muscle (insulin also inhibits gluconeogenesis in liver.
Glucagon is the "hunger
hormone" and it stimulates glycogen breakdown and gluconeogenesis in
the liver (glucagon
also inhibits glycogen and fatty acid synthesis. Source: Dr. Roger
Miesfeld, University of Arizona
Your repetitive, "You will know exactly when HE answers this prayer
when you feel
hungrier than you have ever felt before.", is incredibly dangerous
advice.
Diabetes educators will tell you that intense hunger can be a sign of
hypoglycemia. Many diabetics know the feeling of suddenly feeling "
hungrier than you have ever felt before" and upon testing finding
thier blood glucose level is dangerously low. A surgeon friend tells
me feeling of extreme hunger can be indicative of gallbladder
problems.
It is irresponsible to make the blanket statement that hunger is a
sign of God's blessing.
Please provide the biblical or medical basis for your obsession that
"hunger is good".
I do not see hunger as bad so you have lied when you
typed ,"Clinically, this does mean you are mentally ill."
If you did not persist in flaunting your nedical credentials this
would be less troubling.
Most medical professionals are trustworthy and trusted by the public.
You endanger those who may act upon your advice.
May God lead you stop your worship of hunger.
Ga Hoya
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > convicted neighbor Robert Weldon wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> convicted neighbor Robert Weldon wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> > http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/57053.html
>
> >>>> >> > May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly
> >>>> >> > wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ
> >>>> >> > as the Son of Man ...
>
> >>>> >> > ... by being hungrier:
>
> >>>> >> > http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
>
> >>>> >> > Hunger is wonderful :-)
>
> >>>> >> > It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
>
> >>>> >> > Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
> >>>> >> > paid for with their and our immortal lives.
>
> >>>> >> > Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the
> >>>> >> > prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
>
> >>>> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
>
> >>>> >> > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> >>>> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
>
> >>>> >> > "Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
>
> >>>> >> > ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
>
> >>>> >> > Amen.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> between 7 BC and 1 BC with the great majority finding 6 to 4 BC to
> >>>> >> be
> >>>> >> the most likely window Christ's birth was 2011 to 2013 years ago.
> >>>> >> The
> >>>> >> second generally accepted fact is that no one has nailed down the
> >>>> >> date
> >>>> >> but all agree it was most definitely not December 25th.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> >>>> > 19:26)
>
> >>>> > Amen.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry, nutbar...
> >>>
> >>> Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
> >>> convict you:
> >>
>
> >> Sorry, nutbar, it is merely an accurate way to describe you, based on
> >> your net history. And it does not change the fact that you are wrong, it
> >> is common knowledge that Dec. 25 is not the day of Jesus's birth.
> >
> > Where does Andy claim, that Jesus was born Dec. 25? You better take
> > your meds or see a shrink, for you are seeing things that aren't there and
> > posting non sequitur galore, all symptoms of advancing insanity.
>
> > Check again above. Andy says that hunger is wonderful, which I dare say
> > is the only mindset which makes losing weight permanently a feasibility
> > and causes you to live longer and better.
>
> Hunger is a sign that your body needs fuel, that's it.
Incorrect.
If this were correct, obese folks like dear convicted neighbor GH,
would stop eating because without hunger, eating would be a chore...
... chores simply don't get done.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate that you are led by the spirit of error
(self).
Laus Deo ! ! !
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/RobertWeldon
May we, who are led by the Holy Spirit, continue to pray for your
endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
J666
> Any sane person would realize from reading what Chung writes, that
> what he writes is not consistent with religious and scientific thought
> and is ridiculous. Chung actually is his own worst enemy when it
> comes to expressing his views.
Yes, it is as though Chung is in a corner with a dunce's cap on his
head and sitting on a pile of feces as his stool.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
BusinessAc...@gmail.com
Robert Weldon
Not according to sane medical people, and I am going to believe them before
a religous soaked nutbar like you.
>
> If this were correct, obese folks like dear convicted neighbor GH,
> would stop eating because without hunger, eating would be a chore...
>
> ... chores simply don't get done.
Pretty lame logic there, care to try again?
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> you to unwittingly demonstrate that you are led by the spirit of error
> (self).
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps He is compellling me to point out your
lack of mental competence?
Plain and simple, you are a nutbar.
>
> Laus Deo ! ! !
>
> This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
> you:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/RobertWeldon
>
> May we, who are led by the Holy Spirit, continue to pray for your
> endangered soul:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert
Are these links to previous demented posts by you supposed to mean anything
to sane people?
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Maybe you should be praying for a return to sanity.
R. Preston, PhD
> I should think the opposite is true, and that the insanity is all yours,
> for you argue with love, faith and belief, as if those were factoids. Your
> facts are irrelevant in the face of faith love and belief. To try and
> convince Andy of some academic points totally irrelevant to his love, faith
> and belief in the person of Jesus Christ, is like convincing you that your
> grand child is not the most beautiful and intelligent child in the world.
> Your screeching "you are insane" only makes a clown out of you.
Love, faith and belief in Christ are based on what the Bible tells us
of Him, as opposed to making up who He is and what His message is in
your own mind. There has to be a sense of order and context. Scripture
is factual, it is historical. It can not be interpreted a hundred
different ways when one adheres to the message of the Bible as a
whole, chapter by chapter and verse by verse. One doesn't pluck a
verse out of context and say this is what God via the Bible is saying
regarding a particular subject. The Bible was written to show what God
has to say and what God wants, not to back up what a man has to say or
what a man wants.
If someone wants to express how they feel about Christ, the same way
they want to express the way they feel about their grandchild, that's
fine: Jesus is the love of my life. He is a billion times more
wonderful and precious to me than anything else I have ever seen or
known. He is my strength, He is my beacon, He is my victory, He is my
salvation. This is me expressing my love, my faith, my belief.
But when you start bringing Biblical passages and interpretation into
it, then you need to stick to the facts of what the Bible actually has
to say, instead of trying to tailor a verses and passages to fit your
own personal perception, to get your own personal message across. You
don't say this is how I think you should do such-in-such, and this
singular Biblical passage taken out of context backs me up on it. This
is where someone is within their rights to say, "that's insane" or
even "that's heresy" or "that's blasphemy". This applies to the myriad
other unorthodox (some would say heretical and or blasphemous)
Biblical interpretations being presented by the individual. Not his
expressions of personal love, faith and belief; but telling people
this is what the Bible has to say about what I personally made up.
When a person expresses their love for their grandchild (mine is the
sweetest, most beautiful, smartest, funniest, coolest kid on earth
BTW) or their faith, love and belief in their Lord and savior Jesus
Christ, they shouldn't appear to go to great lengths to appear as an
obnoxious juvenile raving lunatic, and say things that flies in the
face of what they proclaim to believe and stand for, when they go
about it.
In all my years on usenet, there has always been only one sort of
poster who posts as an obnoxious juvenile and/or raving lunatic, and
that is the troll, hands down.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >>
> >> >>>> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
Those who are compelled to publicly state that "hunger is a sign that
your body needs fuel" are far from being sane.
This simply shows that you suffer from the powerful delusion that
hunger is bad as predicted would happen to all those who neither know
nor love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:9-11).
Clinically, those suffering from such delusions are mentally ill
stricken with irrational compulsions such as overeating, smoking
cigarettes, lying, cheating, and stealing instead of being right:
May reading the following help you recognize that indeed you are
suffering from a powerful delusion:
May we, who are sane, continue to pray for your endangered body and
soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
DarkSentinel
news:20080104044627.911$u...@newsreader.com...
> "DarkSentinel" <darkmung...@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:
>> "Robert Weldon" <rweldon....@jrpspamblock.ca> wrote in message
>> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in
>> >> neighbor GH (gah...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> > snip <
>>
>> Can ya'll PLEASE NOT quote his silly ass? Defeats my killfile...lol
>
> Thanks for snipping it, DS. I hate wading through a bunch of stuff by some
> guy I've kf'd, only to get to a one line rebuttal. Unfortunately, it
> happens on a lot of NG's.
>
> Take care.
Just doing my part to de-Chungify our little part of the world...;)
MU
wrote:
> As I said before
When?
> and the above shows,
There's nothing above.
> any sane person would realize
> from reading what Chung writes, that what he writes is not consistent
> with religious and scientific thought and is ridiculous.
Your point is as well constructed as your post.
> Chung
> actually is his own worst enemy when it comes to expressing his views.
Who else could express Chung's views except Chung?
Aw, my bad, you're a child playing on Usenet.
PLONK
J666
> Who else could express Chung's views except Chung?
Who in their right mind would want to express the psychotic/delusional/
trolling views of Chungy the Parrot.
bob young
Robert Weldon wrote:
I came to the same conclusion and decided not to waste any more of my time
responding to his sick lyrics
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > convicted neighbor "Robert Weldon":
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >>> convicted neighbor Robert Weldon wrote:
> > >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >>>> > neighbor GH (gah...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > >>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> > http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/57053.html
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> between 7 BC and 1 BC with the great majority finding 6 to 4 BC to
> > >>>> >> be
> > >>>> >> the most likely window Christ's birth was 2011 to 2013 years ago.
> > >>>> >> The
> > >>>> >> second generally accepted fact is that no one has nailed down the
> > >>>> >> date
> > >>>> >> but all agree it was most definitely not December 25th.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
> > >>>> > 19:26)
> > >>>> > Amen.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sorry, nutbar...
> > >>>
> > >>> Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
> > >>> convict you:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Sorry, nutbar, it is merely an accurate way to describe you, based on
> > >> your net history. And it does not change the fact that you are wrong, it
> > >> is common knowledge that Dec. 25 is not the day of Jesus's birth.
> > >
> > > Where does Andy claim, that Jesus was born Dec. 25? You better take
> > > your meds or see a shrink, for you are seeing things that aren't there and
> > > posting non sequitur galore, all symptoms of advancing insanity.
>
> > > Check again above. Andy says that hunger is wonderful, which I dare say
> > > is the only mindset which makes losing weight permanently a feasibility
> > > and causes you to live longer and better.
> >
> > Hunger is a sign that your body needs fuel, that's it. Going hungry puts
> > your body into starvation mode, something that humans evolved to survive
> > droughts, and slows the metabolism down, hindering weight loss attempts.
> > Andy is insane, I considered you to be a lying creationist fundie, but I am
> > beginning to think you have mental problems also.
>
> I came to the same conclusion and decided not to waste any more of my time
> responding to his sick lyrics
What little time you have left is not yours but GOD's...
... but of course, you knew this already, satan.
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
rebuke you publicly before witnesses at each GOD-given opportunity:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
R. Preston
> Who else could express Chung's views except Chung?
Like minded physicians and/or Christians, separate from him.
Or is that asking for too much?
> Aw, my bad, you're a child playing on Usenet.
>
> PLONK
What an immature response.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
Pastor Frank
> "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
> news:477e0446$0$26123$8826...@free.teranews.com...
>>
>> your meds or see a shrink, for you are seeing things that aren't there
>> and posting non sequitur galore, all symptoms of advancing insanity.
>> Check again above. Andy says that hunger is wonderful, which I dare
>> say is the only mindset which makes losing weight permanently a
>> feasibility and causes you to live longer and better.
>
> Hunger is a sign that your body needs fuel, that's it. Going hungry puts
> your body into starvation mode, something that humans evolved to survive
> droughts, and slows the metabolism down, hindering weight loss attempts.
> Andy is insane, I considered you to be a lying creationist fundie, but I
> am beginning to think you have mental problems also.
>
becoming lethargic with low metabolism the opposite happens, you become very
alert, your brain working over time, and your metabolism is ready to deliver
the maximum so you can procure food. I.e. animals are never more active and
alert than when hungry, for they have no time nor energy to waste in their
search for food ..quickly. It's either that or die from starvation.
Being consistently in the praise and worship mode like Andy is desirable
and not a "mental problem" at all. What IS a mental problem are atheists
being consistently negative and in the trash and flame mode, ...like those
in hell, who cannot think positively anymore, but MUST screech downers for
all eternity. See below
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:8:12: But the children of Satan's kingdom shall be cast into
outer darkness: There shall be wailing (of interminable complaints and
accusations) and the gnashing of teeth (in perpetual frustration and
impotent rage).
Robert Weldon
Are you a mind reader now? I said nothing about hunger being bad, I said
hunger is a sign that your body needs fuel, which is correct.
>
> Clinically, those suffering from such delusions are mentally ill
> stricken with irrational compulsions such as overeating, smoking
> cigarettes, lying, cheating, and stealing instead of being right:
Speaking of being mentally ill, are you in treatment for your delusions yet?
-rest of usual Chungspew snipped
Robert Weldon
I didn't say anything about becoming lethargic, I said the metabolism slows
down, which it does. Andy is insane, and is in need of mental health help,
you supporting him in his delusions is not doing him any good. Are you a
mindreader now, how do you know I am an atheist?
Robert Weldon
"MU" <M...@none.com> wrote in message
news:yz6pehxgae6w$.1r2lelf7jtcaf$.dlg@40tude.net...
Look here, another loon, or is it a Chung sock puppet?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> convicted neighbor Robert Weldon" <rweldon....@jrpspamblock.ca> wrote:
> > "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> your meds or see a shrink, for you are seeing things that aren't there
> >> and posting non sequitur galore, all symptoms of advancing insanity.
>
> >> Check again above. Andy says that hunger is wonderful, which I dare
> >> say is the only mindset which makes losing weight permanently a
> >> feasibility and causes you to live longer and better.
> >
> > Hunger is a sign that your body needs fuel, that's it. Going hungry puts
> > your body into starvation mode, something that humans evolved to survive
> > droughts, and slows the metabolism down, hindering weight loss attempts.
> > Andy is insane, I considered you to be a lying creationist fundie, but I
> > am beginning to think you have mental problems also.
> >
> That "hunger mode" you are talking about is an urban myth.
More than that...
... an outrageous lie from satan that has trapped many who are
perishing because they neither know nor love the truth:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
> Rather than
> becoming lethargic with low metabolism the opposite happens, you become very
> alert, your brain working over time, and your metabolism is ready to deliver
> the maximum so you can procure food. I.e. animals are never more active and
> alert than when hungry, for they have no time nor energy to waste in their
> search for food ..quickly. It's either that or die from starvation.
Thankfully, for humans, Jesus has shown us that we have more than 40
days, with HIS blessing, before we would possibly start dying from
starvation.
And, even then, we would know it by no longer feeling hungry ! ! !
May you and other dear brethren, family, friends, and neighbors have
a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
J666
>
> Look here, another loon, or is it a Chung sock puppet?
From what Chungy said a 12:27 pm does it make any difference if it is
Chung or his sockpuppet.
Chung's sockpuppet is holey in the soul.
J666
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Yup, Chung's sockpuppet is holey in the soul
Pastor Frank
laying in wait, otherwise when hungry a body's metabolism in on high alert.
The knowledge that a lion can only chase a limited number of pray and miss
before becoming to weak to continue, is embedded in his metabolic system.
Which btw proves intelligent design.
You also fail to quote Andy's "insane delusions" to prove your
assertions. Only Satan's atheist minions assert sans quoting the evidence.