Axiom (was ScratchPad II)--one more word.
Charles Fletcher
here is one more piece. In the latest (IEEE) Spectrum magazine in their
"Special SOFTWARE Guide", the 'Math and graphics' section there is a nice
quote on Axiom. I quote (in violation of all copyright laws!-):
As the table shows, many new products were introduced last year. One
noteworthy newcomer is Axiom, a huge computer algebra program that
IBM Corp. began developing over 15 years ago. Requiring 200 megabytes
of disk space, it features extensive symbolic, numerical, and graphical
capabilities, and already has a substantial user base, mostly within
IBM. It is distributed commercially for IBM workstations by Numerical
Algorithms Group, Inc., Downers Grove, Ill.
BTW--NAG is running an "introductory" special on Axiom until Nov. 15. The
academic price is under xxx dollars with corporate pricing running about
a third more. (I have no connection with NAG or IBM. Contact NAG for
specific details. Try either cas...@nag.com or ry...@nag.com.)
Charlie
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Gerald Edgar
> [Axiom,] requiring 200 megabytes
> of disk space,
Maple, requiring 7 megabytes of disk space, runs on a Mac with 2 megabytes
of RAM.
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Yingbin Chen
I am a new user of Maple, and I wish that I can get some FAQ files from
this group about maple.
Also, I need to transfer data from Maple to Matlab frequently, and I don't
see an easy way to do it. Any suggestion?
Thanks.
Yingbin Chen
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Richard J. Gaylord
who are listening in to this thread and may be panting to get the program
(i'd give the price but NAG hasn't told me the cost or sent me a price
sheet).
btw - the ibm risc 6000 machine that axiom runs on costs $26,500.
[ i was told that there is no intention to port it to the mac (boo,
hiss) but that it will go to other unnamed machines eventually.
(btw - the new issue of byte mag has a comparision of workstations [ibm
risc 6000, next, sun, sgi iris, apple quadra, etc] which might be of
interest to symb. math program users.)
Themos Tsikas
> Since I have been running this (hopefully) informative thread on Axiom,
> here is one more piece. In the latest (IEEE) Spectrum magazine in their
> "Special SOFTWARE Guide", the 'Math and graphics' section there is a nice
> quote on Axiom. I quote (in violation of all copyright laws!-):
>
> As the table shows, many new products were introduced last year. One
> noteworthy newcomer is Axiom, a huge computer algebra program that
> IBM Corp. began developing over 15 years ago. Requiring 200 megabytes
> capabilities, and already has a substantial user base, mostly within
> IBM. It is distributed commercially for IBM workstations by Numerical
> Algorithms Group, Inc., Downers Grove, Ill.
>
.
>
> Charlie
>
For the record: AXIOM Release 1.1 for IBM RISC/System 6000 requires
- 32MB real memory
- 80MB of free disk space
- at least 64MB of disk paging space (total)
Thank you
_____________________________________________________________________________
AXIOM queries:
info...@nag.co.uk (NAG Ltd., UK)
info...@nag.com (NAG Inc., USA)
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Themos Tsikas e-mail: the...@nag.co.uk
AXIOM Development Coordinator tel. : 44-(0)-865-511245
Numerical Algorithms Group Ltd.
Wilkinson House, Jordan Hill Rd., Oxford, UK OX2 8DR
Charles Fletcher
Ah yes, the price of power. Axiom has been somewhat of a memory hog-
it usually runs best with 24M of memory or so (actually so does Mma).
But the 200 M diskspace is due to the extensive library and HyperDocs.
I would guess that a lot of this could be cut down depending on
your particular interest. (As a size comparison, look at KHOROS,
an extensive X based visualization package with a lot of libraries.
Use for comparison only, actual diskspace may vary.)
I agree that you probably won't see Axiom running on a 2M Mac in
the near future. But my understanding is that Axiom is somewhat
similar to Maple in that it has a reasonable kernel, then loads the
library packages as it needs them (one of the early Maple guys
at Waterloo went to IBM to work on ScratchPad II, now Axiom. I
don't know if there is a connection there or not.) We'll have
to wait and see what develops. Until then we have Maple, MathCAD,
and even Mathematica (all of which will probably serve well to
meet a lot of needs even after Axiom comes along.)
ja...@skatter.usask.ca
> btw - the ibm risc 6000 machine that axiom runs on costs $26,500.
> [ i was told that there is no intention to port it to the mac (boo,
> hiss) but that it will go to other unnamed machines eventually.
>
> (btw - the new issue of byte mag has a comparision of workstations [ibm
> risc 6000, next, sun, sgi iris, apple quadra, etc] which might be of
> interest to symb. math program users.)
I might add that the next is rather unfairly compared in this review.
jake
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Rainer Joswig
flet...@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) wrote:
>
> In article <1d66nn...@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> ed...@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes:
> >In article <1992Nov3.1...@socrates.umd.edu> flet...@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes:
> >> [Axiom,] requiring 200 megabytes
> >> of disk space,
> >
> >Maple, requiring 7 megabytes of disk space, runs on a Mac with 2 megabytes
> >of RAM.
> >--
> > Gerald A. Edgar Internet: ed...@mps.ohio-state.edu
> > Department of Mathematics Bitnet: EDGAR@OHSTPY
> > The Ohio State University telephone: 614-292-0395 (Office)
> > Columbus, OH 43210 -292-4975 (Math. Dept.) -292-1479 (Dept. Fax)
>
> Ah yes, the price of power. Axiom has been somewhat of a memory hog-
> it usually runs best with 24M of memory or so (actually so does Mma).
> But the 200 M diskspace is due to the extensive library and HyperDocs.
> I would guess that a lot of this could be cut down depending on
> your particular interest. (As a size comparison, look at KHOROS,
> an extensive X based visualization package with a lot of libraries.
> Use for comparison only, actual diskspace may vary.)
>
> I agree that you probably won't see Axiom running on a 2M Mac in
But on a Macintosh Quadra 950 with 32 MB RAM? Why not? Memory shouldn't
be the problem.
> the near future. But my understanding is that Axiom is somewhat
> similar to Maple in that it has a reasonable kernel, then loads the
> library packages as it needs them (one of the early Maple guys
> at Waterloo went to IBM to work on ScratchPad II, now Axiom. I
> don't know if there is a connection there or not.) We'll have
> to wait and see what develops. Until then we have Maple, MathCAD,
> and even Mathematica (all of which will probably serve well to
> meet a lot of needs even after Axiom comes along.)
Rainer Joswig
Email: jos...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Weiguang Huang
>In article <1992Nov5.1...@socrates.umd.edu>,
>flet...@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) wrote:
>>
>> In article <1d66nn...@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> ed...@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes:
>> >In article <1992Nov3.1...@socrates.umd.edu> flet...@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes:
>> >> [Axiom,] requiring 200 megabytes
>> >> of disk space,
>> >
>> >Maple, requiring 7 megabytes of disk space, runs on a Mac with 2 megabytes
>> >of RAM.
>> >--
>> > Gerald A. Edgar Internet: ed...@mps.ohio-state.edu
>>
>
>But on a Macintosh Quadra 950 with 32 MB RAM? Why not? Memory shouldn't
>be the problem.
>
>Email: jos...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
It is ont only the memory problem but also the CPU problem. Neither Axiom
nor Maple can run on 16-bit CPU (e.g. 8086)ok. SymbMath has neither memory
problem nor the CPU problem as it runs on the 8086 machine with 0.5 MK RAM.
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