If the same bugs exist through numerous software releases,
I think that is valuable public information.
It just should not happen.
-- Brad Cooper
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Our little demo continues..... Hello again from the VM machine
which hopefully soon will not be ignored by CAS manufacturers.
This example demonstrates YET ANOTHER case of bad defects in
Wolfram Research Quality Assurance process. Consider, it cannot
trap efficiently multiple bugs.
First, in 1996, Mathematica 3.0 returns a false result. For
a divergent integral, it reports (-12 EulerGamma^2 + Pi^2)/24
which is 0.244645...
This bug persists in 2002, in Mathematica 4.2.
Then, in 2005, in Mathematica 5.2, it is repaired.
Now, in Mathematica 6, this functionality is broken -- AGAIN!
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Table[NIntegrate[Log[z] (1 - Cos[z])/z, {z, 0, a}],{a,10,50,10}]
{3.00932, 4.59746, 6.141, 6.97878, 7.91825}
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Integrate[Log[z] (1 - Cos[z])/z, {z, 0, Infinity}]
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VERSION OUTPUT RESOLUTION
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Mathematica 6.0 (-12 EulerGamma^2 + Pi^2)/24 <----------- BUG
Mathematica 5.2 Integral of does not converge OK
Mathematica 4.2 (-12 EulerGamma^2 + Pi^2)/24 <----------- BUG
Mathematica 3.0 (-12 EulerGamma^2 + Pi^2)/24 <----------- BUG
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Best wishes,
Vladimir Bondarenko
VM and GEMM architect
Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director
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It's interesting to note that one can easily get version 6 to tell us that
the integral does not converge. Just set an option:
Integrate[Log[z] (1 - Cos[z])/z, {z, 0, Infinity},
GenerateConditions -> True]
yields
Integrate::idiv: Integral of Log[z]/z-(Cos[z] Log[z])/z does not converge
on {0,\[Infinity]}. >>
But I don't understand why that works! The documentation for
GenerateConditions states "GenerateConditions is an option for Integrate
that specifies whether explicit conditions on parameters should be
generated in the results of definite integrals." and "The default setting
is GenerateConditions->Automatic, which is equivalent to a setting of True
for one-dimensional integrals."
Is there a "parameter" involved? I don't see one.
Is our integral not one-dimensional? We should have had True automatically.
Obviously, either I don't understand something or the documentation is
severely lacking.
David
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math.symbolic/msg/f98fecd141780152
DWC>
DWC> [ NIntegrate/GenerateConditions ]
DWC>
DWC> Obviously, either I don't understand something
DWC> or the documentation is severely lacking.
Me, of the identical opinion... but our voices sounded
like those in the commercial CAS wilderness...
But relax, there seem to be a hope?
Today, Daniel Lichtblau seems to be in a communicative
mood:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math.symbolic/msg/a7ef8d492ab18c3f
So, David, maybe we together could ask him politely
for an explanation both you and me (and maybe some
other Wolfram Research customers) want to hear?
Cheers,
Vladimir
--
Vladimir Bondarenko
VM and GEMM architect
Co-founder, CEO, Mathematical Director
http://www.cybertester.com/ Cyber Tester, LLC
http://maple.bug-list.org/ Maple Bugs Encyclopaedia
http://www.CAS-testing.org/ CAS Testing
Not of the sort I would think is needed (or, as we say, "I'm not that
kind of a doctor").
> Today, Daniel Lichtblau seems to be in a communicative
> mood:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math.symbolic/msg/a7ef8d492ab18c3f
I just haven't yet gotten around to more sensible pursuits.
> So, David, maybe we together could ask him politely
> for an explanation both you and me (and maybe some
> other Wolfram Research customers) want to hear?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Vladimir
> [...]
>
> > Vladimir Bondarenko <v...@cybertester.com> wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> > > First, in 1996, Mathematica 3.0 returns a false result. For
> > > a divergent integral, it reports (-12 EulerGamma^2 + Pi^2)/24
> > > which is 0.244645...
>
> > > This bug persists in 2002, in Mathematica 4.2.
> [...]
>
> > It's interesting to note that one can easily get version 6 to tell us that
> > the integral does not converge. Just set an option:
>
> > Integrate[Log[z] (1 - Cos[z])/z, {z, 0, Infinity},
> > GenerateConditions -> True]
>
> > yields
>
> > Integrate::idiv: Integral of Log[z]/z-(Cos[z] Log[z])/z does not converge
> > on {0,\[Infinity]}. >>
>
> > But I don't understand why that works! The documentation for
> > GenerateConditions states "GenerateConditions is an option for Integrate
> > that specifies whether explicit conditions on parameters should be
> > generated in the results of definite integrals." and "The default setting
> > is GenerateConditions->Automatic, which is equivalent to a setting of True
> > for one-dimensional integrals."
>
> > Is there a "parameter" involved? I don't see one.
> > Is our integral not one-dimensional? We should have had True automatically.
>
> > Obviously, either I don't understand something or the documentation is
> > severely lacking.
>
> > David- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Clearly it was a bug, and not in the documentation. While convergence
assessment is fraught with problems, documented behavior is indeed
that an integral involving one dimension should not (well, almost
never) change its behavior based on setting GenerateConditions->True.
As I mentioned in private email to David Cantrell, this appears to be
fixed in the development kernel.
In[62]:= Integrate[Log[z]*(1 - Cos[z])/z, {z, 0, Infinity}]
During evaluation of In[62]:= Integrate::idiv: Integral of
Log[z]/z-(Cos[z] Log[z])/z does not converge on {0,\[Infinity]}.
Out[63] Integrate[((1 - Cos[z])*Log[z])/z, {z, 0, Infinity}]
Daniel Lichtblau
Wolfram Research