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Peacock nesting sites and snakes

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Medusa

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May 11, 2004, 7:12:26 PM5/11/04
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Our poor peacock is losing eggs as fast as she lays them. I'm pretty
sure it is a snake since I find no eggshells and have caught a black
snake in the act last year. How do I give her a good snake proof nesting
area? The peacocks and guineas (who lost a nest of 20 eggs that I know
of) are all free range. She is nesting inside a "lean-to" shed on some
straw at just about ground level. Will a peacock nest on a raised
platform? Any suggestions for keeping snakes away? Help!

Blanche Nonken

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May 11, 2004, 10:20:05 PM5/11/04
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Medusa <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:

I know cedar chips or shavings are toxic to snakes. Are they also toxic
to nesting birds?

dix...@adelphia.net

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May 11, 2004, 10:43:53 PM5/11/04
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You could try a mongoose, they hate snakes. All joking aside,
maybe placing an egg or two into a trap might get the culprit. If it is a
snake something like a basket saine, the kind used for minnows, might work.
You would have to narrow the opening quite a bit so he can't get back out
easily, but it might be the best way to trap him. I have never seen a trap
made for snakes.


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nswong

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May 12, 2004, 5:33:11 AM5/12/04
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Hi dixonj,

>I have never seen a trap
> made for snakes.

I do read that people *fishing* snake using frog as a bait.

A fishing line fix to something(a pole?) with a live frog may can get
the snake.

Look carefully, we can see the snake path, set a glue trap or knot
trap there may work.

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Wong

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Blanche Nonken

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May 12, 2004, 9:10:44 AM5/12/04
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<dix...@adelphia.net> wrote:

> You could try a mongoose, they hate snakes. All joking aside,
> maybe placing an egg or two into a trap might get the culprit. If it is a
> snake something like a basket saine, the kind used for minnows, might work.
> You would have to narrow the opening quite a bit so he can't get back out
> easily, but it might be the best way to trap him. I have never seen a trap
> made for snakes.

We planned on doing something similar when one of our grey rat snakes
got loose years ago, but we found him before we could set it up. The
idea was to have a cage with narrow bars that he could squeeze through,
but not get loose from once he swallowed the egg.

We would have had to monitor the cage, as he would crack the egg inside
himself by flexing after it had gone down his gullet.

A dead rodent in a cage with bars similarly narrow, near the nesting
place, might do the trick.

Medusa

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May 14, 2004, 8:24:05 PM5/14/04
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dix...@adelphia.net wrote:
> You could try a mongoose, they hate snakes. All joking aside,
> maybe placing an egg or two into a trap might get the culprit. If it is a
> snake something like a basket saine, the kind used for minnows, might work.
> You would have to narrow the opening quite a bit so he can't get back out
> easily, but it might be the best way to trap him. I have never seen a trap
> made for snakes.
>
We live on 120 acres. I'm sure there is more than one snake. I was
hoping for ideas to keep them away from the nest vs catching them. Black
snakes are good for catching mice, etc. I just don't wan them eating
peacock and guinea eggs! I might try adding cedar chips as suggested by
another poster. Any similar ideas to repel snakes?

John C. Dixon Jr.

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May 14, 2004, 11:19:22 PM5/14/04
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"> We live on 120 acres. I'm sure there is more than one snake. I was
> hoping for ideas to keep them away from the nest vs catching them. Black
> snakes are good for catching mice, etc. I just don't wan them eating
> peacock and guinea eggs! I might try adding cedar chips as suggested by
> another poster. Any similar ideas to repel snakes?
>


I can tell you this from my own run in with a very large and long black
snake, their smarter than you might think. If he gets a meal from a certain
spot he will return there time after time. We used to have a large bird
condo that starlings loved to nest in. One year I noticed that about two
weeks into nesting there were no birds coming or going about the condo. I
looked into the boxes and there was a very large black snake, full of eggs,
young birds and their parents. This same process occurred twice a year for
six years, the old codger finally got to be almost nine feet long, with a
very nasty attitude to go with his size.When I got my first chicks, as bad
as I hated to, I made it a top priority to make sure he retired to our lake
property, if he had remained he would have surely found and eating them all,
and then came back for seconds.
I have never heard about cedar chips being used to
repel them although it can't hurt. I have heard of mothballs being used,
although I don't put much stock in it, just make sure the foul can't get to
them if you try them. I live in East Tennessee, lots of Copperheads and
Rattlers that love to make their homes under human homes. If their was a
sure fire repellant it would be wildly popular here. Good
luck!

Blanche Nonken

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May 15, 2004, 8:52:07 AM5/15/04
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"John C. Dixon Jr." <dix...@adelphia.net> wrote:

> I have never heard about cedar chips being used to
> repel them although it can't hurt. I have heard of mothballs being used,
> although I don't put much stock in it, just make sure the foul can't get to
> them if you try them. I live in East Tennessee, lots of Copperheads and
> Rattlers that love to make their homes under human homes. If their was a
> sure fire repellant it would be wildly popular here.

I was wondering, due to the similarity between reptiles and birds, if
cedar chips were in any way toxic to birds in the same way they are to
reps. One of many keepers' first lessons is "Don't use cedar shavings
for bedding."

Been keeping snakes for years now, the only one I've kept this long is
an albino California King Snake (Lampropeltis geltulis californii) named
Odie, who's about as stupid as a snake can be, even tried to swallow
himself two or three times. Somehow he's survived himself, and has made
it through all kinds of strange adventures - coming up next January I'll
have had him for 18 years.

dix...@adelphia.net

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May 15, 2004, 9:46:31 AM5/15/04
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Only if they eat them.

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