Have you considered utopian.io as a way to fund contributions to the sandstorm app economy?

[miste...@gmail.com]

I recently posted some of this in the IRC server, but I thought i'd put it here as well.

https://join.utopian.io/owners/

This is a service built on the steem blockchain ( i have major reservations with steem, but Utopian hopes to be blockchain agnostic eventually)

Check out the website it will explain better than i do, but as a project owner you can submit tasks and users can take a task, once they finish it utopian will pay for the work that they did (to some amount, it's an incentive, not necessarily to contribute, not really a market rate).

I think that your project would really speak to the crowd on steem, many people there are privacy focused and believe in open source tech, so i believe it's a good place to spread the word (in fact I intend to feature sandstorm on my blog on steem for what ever it's worth) 

[Jacob Weisz]

Why does it need to be on the blockchain? BountySource works great for... more or less the same thing.

However, the main issue with Sandstorm development at the moment isn't availability of funding, it's availability of Kenton. There's only a handful of people who are familiar with the internals of Sandstorm enough to contribute to the platform itself.

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[miste...@gmail.com]

Well on their last blog post kenton talked about how they had to stop their free-version just to become net-neutral...  So it sure seems like there is a funding issue.

Maybe this makes more sense for APP development rather than sandstorm itself. 

As far as Utopian vs BountySource... the main difference is that project owners don't necessarily need to fund bounties (although that seems to be an option), open source contributions are rewarded by the network itself.  The way blockchain comes in that the steem network works like a giant DAO, since UTOPIAN owns and is delegated a large stake in the network, they use this to vote for funds released from the 'rewards pool'.  Basically stake gives the ability to grant funds created through inflation on the supply on the steem token.  So utopian uses this function of the network to contributors to open source projects. 

Like i said, i have reservations about steem, but they have a built in community and people looking for cool projects to contribute on so they can get more funds.  

There are quite a few broken apps on the appmarket, this is a way that someone might come along and fix them, and get paid, with out any cost to SANDSTORM. 

Sorry maybe i meant more for 

[miste...@gmail.com]

Also, there is no reason it is a utopian vs bountysource situation at all... should use both, they both have their own communities. 

[Nils Hoover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/bsoduu/about_sandstormio/

Just wanted to share this post,

[Nils Hoover]

Ugh, sorry meant to write more. People are excited about sandstorm, they are just turned off because of lack of app development. What would it take to incentivise new development on sandstorm?

[Kevin Reid]

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 10:43 AM Nils Hoover <miste...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ugh, sorry meant to write more.  People are excited about sandstorm, they are just turned off because of lack of app development.   What would it take to incentivise new development on sandstorm?

Here's a random suggestion: I recently tried to start packaging an app and ran into https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/issues/213 ("vagrant-spk enter-grain: Value too large for defined data type"). Without being able to look into the grain environment easily I couldn't debug what the app was expecting versus getting.

Fixing bugs like this to make the development/porting process easy and trouble-free will help developers not just give up. And the knowledge to fix this is probably useful for other Sandstorm platform improvements.